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HAHAHAHOr alternatively I just need a gun. A gun pretty much levels the field itself.
HAHAHAHOr alternatively I just need a gun. A gun pretty much levels the field itself.
I don’t know any woman who has yelled at or made fun of a man for opening the door for them or paying on a date. Some women may want to go Dutch on dates so their dates don’t feel like they are owed something for paying and that’s perfectly reasonable.
That is interesting. I have not seen it done, but I have heard women speak about how they do not care for the gesture. it comes across as if they are weak. they do not feel flattered at all.I don’t know any woman who has yelled at or made fun of a man for opening the door for them or paying on a date. Some women may want to go Dutch on dates so their dates don’t feel like they are owed something for paying and that’s perfectly reasonable.
We are the best!I love G.R.I.T.S.---Girls Raised In The South.
Your confusing - or whoever thinks like that is confusing - a show of strength with consideration. Holding the door open for someone is CONSIDERATE. I hold the door open for people all the time - whoever is behind me male or female and I will rush ahead to grab the door for someone carrying stuff, the elderly, children, women with children etc. I do not rush ahead to grab the door for a man because there’s no reason.That is interesting. I have not seen it done, but I have heard women speak about how they do not care for the gesture. it comes across as if they are weak. they do not feel flattered at all.
I have also heard women speak of being offended by a man insisting on paying. Women to me seem a bit more rough around the edges. I think a lot of ladies would prefer to be called a b*@#! than a wh*$#, which results in this hard exterior.
YesOr alternatively I just need a gun. A gun pretty much levels the field itself.
But it really doesn't, dude. If anything, it's one of many possible catalysts to get people to realize much of our world is socially constructed.Yes we get screwed from all sides. You could say feminism helps hold us down while the economic system gets busy.
I don't know a single feminist that thinks someone doesn't deserve their help. I know a few that might say they don't need help in certain circumstances... But the same goes for anyone.What I meant by altruism is that both sexes make huge sacrifices and instead of celebrating selfless care with gratitude as is tradition, it becomes something you dole out with "I don't need your help" and "you don't deserve my help" sentiment abounding.
Umm... No health measures contributions if both are contributing, dude...To affirm your understanding, I don't think taking more from a spouse for the sake of equality is important. How does it sound to endlessly measure our contributions instead of going out to protest.
All I said about chivalry is it never really existed. As we see it today, it came from fictional stories.Anyway, I don't get in any sense that you're curious, like I'm curious about your train of thought on rapists. How would you feel if anything bad you said about chivalry, I blamed on feudalism instead, declaring chivalry untarnished.
How is feminism responsible for your lack of social skills and personality?...and what, you think feminism has nothing to do with bringing this about?
Because it sure hasn't fostered the opposite, even taking everything you say at face value.
And "all that comes out is ignorance" is just one of these cliché -ist Orwellian insults.
Has nothing to do with you being from a certain place. Everyone has a type and prefers to be treated a certain way.Hmm interesting point. I am one of the people who needs to grow up!!
Although I see validity in your point, I do prefer to be treated as my definition of a lady. I don't throw a tantrum if I am not treated how I feel a lady should be treated, but I was raised to have expectations of how a man will treat me.
Being from the south makes a bit of a difference in regard to this concept for me )
What do you mean "innate" social skills? Like we're born with them? No, they are (un)developed.blaming feminism for someone’s innate lack of social skills?
This is basic common wisdom and good to keep in mind for everybody, especially in this context. Preferably, everything is better communicated between the parties as well.As for the paying on dates thing women have many valid reasons to be wary of someone paying for them on dates. There are many men who tend to think paying for a date or some certain number of dates entitles them to sex or things of a sexual nature. That they are owed it as recompense. If a woman would rather opt out of that at the very least uncomfortable situation and at worst potentially violent situation that is her right. This again isn’t about being stronger or emasculating men. This is about protecting yourself.
Ha no shit but social constructions aren't automatically bad. Wow, feels weird to have to say that. Now I can't help but feel you're misreading everything else on purpose.much of our world is socially constructed
I have to seriously disagree with your contention that it doesn’t matter which came first. It is of the utmost importance in being able to evaluate who the true enemy was and still is. It isn’t women. It isn’t feminism. It is the capital/industrialist class 1000%.Who cares what came first, jess. It's not a simple case of "A causes B causes C". Also so what if something is a reaction - just because it's a reaction doesn't automatically justify or even explain it.
What do you mean "innate" social skills? Like we're born with them? No, they are (un)developed.
And I wasn't "blaming" which relinquishes responsibility. This may be a naive notion, but an institution like feminism might theoretically want to actually improve people's relationships, a practical thing everyone cares about. Instead it hasn't done shit for it and we see perpetually worsening gender relations. I expect you'd claim it's only incidentally correlated, and caused by something else entirely.
Allowing your rather hostile moving of the goalposts, there are things that hamper men's (social) development. It's having fewer father figures, attending school systems that increasingly cater to female-type development, shirking moral feminist landmines instead of playing and exploring and developing, all before any hint of aggression enters the picture. Less to be proud of, less desire and capacity to be nice. On top of that, extra competition for the jobs that enable economic stability. And so we connect the concerted efforts of feminism to the very characteristics panamana is complaining about.
Care has opportunity costs the elite wants us to ignore, and care =/= results.
^This.There are a lot of men who think masculinity= controlling and degrading women. That's why they think women emancipation is an attack on them
I just outlined some ways those assholes are forestalled in their development and social skill acquisition, with feminism having a guiding hand in that. Becoming confused, browbeaten, bitter, less accomplished and actually less worthy. Not by comparison to women because most no one cares about that except feminists, but just by themselves as human beings.help that asshole acquire social skills so people want to be around him.
You implicate this capital/industrialist class but exculpate one of its major tools.It isn’t feminism. It is the capital/industrialist class 1000%.
Hmm you seem to think that I disagree with you. But hey I appreciate your opinion! I won't say much more, you are already pretty confused. I'll share my fake boogie man stories with people who appreciate themYour confusing - or whoever thinks like that is confusing - a show of strength with consideration. Holding the door open for someone is CONSIDERATE. I hold the door open for people all the time - whoever is behind me male or female and I will rush ahead to grab the door for someone carrying stuff, the elderly, children, women with children etc. I do not rush ahead to grab the door for a man because there’s no reason.
This is basic consideration for other people. If someone is offended by that they are seriously confused. I’ve never seen or heard of anyone actually being offended by this however and I assume this is just a bogey man story put forth to tarnish feminism.
As for the paying on dates thing women have many valid reasons to be wary of someone paying for them on dates. There are many men who tend to think paying for a date or some certain number of dates entitles them to sex or things of a sexual nature. That they are owed it as recompense. If a woman would rather opt out of that at the very least uncomfortable situation and at worst potentially violent situation that is her right. This again isn’t about being stronger or emasculating men. This is about protecting yourself.
That is very true. I think most people need to hear this. Your cup of tea is another mans bag of s@*!How is feminism responsible for your lack of social skills and personality?
Has nothing to do with you being from a certain place. Everyone has a type and prefers to be treated a certain way.
The important thing is recognizing that just because someone isn't your type doesn't mean they are unattractive to every man/woman/aeroplane out there.
Social constructs aren't automatically bad but people shouldn't be forced to follow them.Ha no shit but social constructions aren't automatically bad. Wow, feels weird to have to say that. Now I can't help but feel you're misreading everything else on purpose.
Indeed, they are one of the few bright spots in the Middle East and perhaps the world.That’s pretty frickin awesome