Is Capitalism Evil?

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rainerann said:
The only way to minimize the opportunity for people to take advantage of a system is to reduce its size. The US is already set up to do this, which changing our system at all. We have a representative government that is collected to form "Congress." Any state and local area should have the freedom to set up something similar to what small European countries like Norway. However, this requires getting rid of most of the Federal government--not expecting the Federal government to accommodate something like this.

This is what the Libertarian party supports. In reality, the US is already set up so that if Wisconsin wanted to implement communism, they could, if we didn't have a Federal government. This is what makes most of these discussions ridiculous. We are debating illusions that are handed to us to like bread, and we are taking them like we are unable to make our own.

The only reason we are "united" in the United States is because individual states accept the same constitution. That is what is uniting us. Otherwise, we already supposed to be able to have independence in our local areas.

San Francisco actually has a city health insurance program called Healthy San Francisco that is not connected to Obamacare or Medicaid programs. It is an interesting thing to consider especially when every politician and their spouse are spewing this nonsense about what they are going to get the Federal government to change if they become elected. This is bandwagon doublespeak and unfortunately, many people don't seem to know how our government system is supposed to work, so they are jumping on.

"California is in a unique and historic position to make universal health access a realityand become a model for the rest of the nation,” Newsom said in an email. “And I know from firsthand experience that it can be done.”
Healthy San Francisco, the brainchild of then-San Francisco Supervisor Tom Ammiano, is available to all city residents, ages 18 and older, who earn up to 500 percent of the federal poverty level — $60,300 for a single person — and who have no other health coverage option. Undocumented residents are also eligible."

In the US, we have a state property tax already on all of our homes. The rate varies by state because individual states are able to set their own tax rate.

Here is alink to a chart that shows how much each state is taxed throughout the country. If San Francisco is able to implement a local health insurance plan in a city with a lower state property tax rate than Texas and New York, both states should be capable of doing the same. What people should be doing to accomplish things regarding healthcare and education, is making their complaint at the state level. The problem with this is that our tax laws support the Federal government more than the state government and essentially make the Federal government more powerful than the individual state.

So comparing capitalism with communism and debating which one is going to create utopia is somewhat ridiculous. Our government system should already be able to do more if people could spend more time understanding the system we have instead of complaining about this or that and thinking their idea for the future is the most brilliant and everything anyone else says makes them greedy, stupid, selfish, or whatever.
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I wasn’t saying that a FULL-ON capitalist society is going to work. I’m just saying that Capitalism is the only system that has worked consistently.
 
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mecca said:
We don't need a perfect world to create a communist society. A decentralized system would be the best way to prevent abuses of power... there will always be problems and there will always be room for improvement but we can still create a better society in this world.
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You kind of do need a perfect world for communism to work. Plus you ain't taking my private property away.
 
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mecca said:
I never said there was a perfect system. Perfection can't be obtained on Earth, it's just an idea or goal. But communism can work in reality, it doesn't have to be perfect, it's just better.
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Nope. A mixture of the two can work, and that's what virtually every country is now
 
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The thing about Capitalism is that it [forensically] detects the worst traits in human beings and then panders to them. After all, the central tenet of the concept of marketing is the promotion of envy . . . !?

Such a system is inherently unstable, dangerous and lends itself to insurrection. After all, without Capitalism, there would be no Socialism.

As for Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman Sachs, they epitomise this latest rentier incarnation of Capitalism. Popularly referred to as neo liberalism, this model is designed to extract wealth, rather than create it. Financial institutions like Goldman Sachs love this model because parasites like them have maximum freedom to ravage the body of the real (wealth creating) part of the economy and kill it. The state of most developed economies shows the hallmarks of the late stages of decay brought about by parasitic finance: stagnant wages, asset bubbles, central bank domination of markets, hollowed out democracies, record levels of under/unemployment (a lot of it unrecorded), massive and exponential levels of debt, polarisation between those with assets and those without.

This is a 'crisis model' and the crisis is upon us. No wonder history seems to have woken up in the last few years.
 
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Golden Age said:
The thing about Capitalism is that it [forensically] detects the worst traits in human beings and then panders to them. After all, the central tenet of the concept of marketing is the promotion of envy . . . !?

Such a system is inherently unstable, dangerous and lends itself to insurrection. After all, without Capitalism, there would be no Socialism.

As for Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman Sachs, they epitomise this latest rentier incarnation of Capitalism. Popularly referred to as neo liberalism, this model is designed to extract wealth, rather than create it. Financial institutions like Goldman Sachs love this model because parasites like them have maximum freedom to ravage the body of the real (wealth creating) part of the economy and kill it. The state of most developed economies shows the hallmarks of the late stages of decay brought about by parasitic finance: stagnant wages, asset bubbles, central bank domination of markets, hollowed out democracies, record levels of under/unemployment (a lot of it unrecorded), massive and exponential levels of debt, polarisation between those with assets and those without.

This is a 'crisis model' and the crisis is upon us. No wonder history seems to have woken up in the last few years.
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So does communism, and socialism. Pure systems cannot work, including Capitalism. A mixed economy would work the best.
 
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