Imam Mahdi - the Son of Man Birthday

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I thought no one knows who he is right now..isn’t he supposed to be named muhammad which is why many muslims have that name, in hopes it will be them?
 

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I thought no one knows who he is right now..isn’t he supposed to be named muhammad which is why many muslims have that name, in hopes it will be them?
Salam, lo like Jews when Jesus as Messiah came they denied him and said our Messiah is not yet born and plotted against him. Same Jew tendency who help fabricate the umayyad dynasty that Imam Mahdi [May His reappearance become closer] is not yet born.

 

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Salam, lo like Jews when Jesus as Messiah came they denied him and said our Messiah is not yet born and plotted against him. Same Jew tendency who help fabricate the umayyad dynasty that Imam Mahdi [May His reappearance become closer] is not yet born.

So you know who the mahdi is then?
 

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which is why many muslims have that name, in hopes it will be them?
Salam, no its simple a holy name and his lineage is will known and many Imam 3-4 Imams of the 12th are named after Prophet Peace upon Him & His Family.
 

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How you mean! We are not chatting here; please explain and clarify?
You are saying that it is a fallacy that the mahdi is not yet born, so I asked if you knew who the Mahdi was...if he’s born, surely you must know who he is to say that?
 

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Salam; hi

Its the birthdate of the Holy Personality Imam Mahdi Peace upon Him, that happened tonight westasia time. In bible he is mentioned the Son of Man.
Peace be upon you as well. How is the birth-date of the Mahdi being determined from your perspective please?

There is overwhelming evidence (prophecy, cosmic events, and time of the year) which indicates that Jesus was born at this time of the year, specifically on what would be 12 April 7 B.C. adjusted through the current Gregorian calendar back through the Julian calendar of ancient Rome.

The same is true of the Second Coming of Christ/Mahdi - that it would be during the Spring (when lambs are born), at the time of the Passover, just as it was when Jesus was born.

The Quran also instructs its readers in multiple places to read and search the Injeel/Gospel accounts, which contain the prophecies of His Second Coming. In the Gospel account of Jesus according to Matthew, in chapter 24, there is a very specific "Fig Tree" prophecy that connects the birth of the body to be used by The Messiah/Christ/Madhi (Sura 43:61) with the "Fig Tree" (Jews) putting forth new shoots/leaves in Palestine.

The Jews were kicked out of Palestine, had no homeland and were persecuted for 2000 years as God's punishment for rejecting, persecuting and murdering their Rightful King and rejecting the New Covenant referred to in Ezekiel 34, culminating in the Holocaust under Adolf Hitler (the Anti-Christ - 666 - who was blessed by the Pope and called "the envoy of God").

The Fig Tree then began to awaken from its withered state and put forth new shoots/leaves in Palestine on 22 April 1948, when the radio announcement went out that the Jewish State in Israel would be established on 14 May 1948. From that year, the desolate, cursed land began, through irrigation, to flourish and put forth new shoots/leaves, with the immigration of Jews from all over the world. Although the "Fig Tree" revived and put forth new shoots, the prophecies clearly state that it will never bear fruit (for God - Matt. 21:19).

So we are fast approaching 72 years since that prophesied event, which we were told would mark the birth of the body to be used by The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi. And this year has already proven to be significant in that we're experiencing an unprecedented grab of power by the governments during what's been deemed a coronavirus (crown-virus) pandemic. Do you think this may help awaken people to consider The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi is already here (like a "thief in the night") and that people are simply not looking in all the right places for THE Rabboni/Master/Teacher/Imam?
 

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You are saying that it is a fallacy that the mahdi is not yet born, so I asked if you knew who the Mahdi was...if he’s born, surely you must know who he is to say that?
Hi, again same thing. I dont say its a fallacy, there is no evidence, historical proven narrations that He Peace upon Him is not born and those gossips are faked with help of jewish hypocrites; infact there is evidence that Imam Mahdi Peace upon Him is born and living among only that we may not recognize him so your wild, barbaric cia takes... You mean knowing personally or knowing his lineage, you see there is difference and you can watch the video it tells there the lineage.

The discussion here is that about 90 times the word "Son of Man" is mention in Holy Bible but only about 20 instances you can say it means Prophet Jesus Peace upon Him and not the rest and its up to the christian priests specially at this time to properly pay attention and not jump on jews and jews jumping on them and try to clarify and explain it.

So the discussion is SON OF MAN IN THE BIBLE.
 

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Peace be upon you as well. How is the birth-date of the Mahdi being determined from your perspective please?

There is overwhelming evidence (prophecy, cosmic events, and time of the year) which indicates that Jesus was born at this time of the year, specifically on what would be 12 April 7 B.C. adjusted through the current Gregorian calendar back through the Julian calendar of ancient Rome.

The same is true of the Second Coming of Christ/Mahdi - that it would be during the Spring (when lambs are born), at the time of the Passover, just as it was when Jesus was born.

The Quran also instructs its readers in multiple places to read and search the Injeel/Gospel accounts, which contain the prophecies of His Second Coming. In the Gospel account of Jesus according to Matthew, in chapter 24, there is a very specific "Fig Tree" prophecy that connects the birth of the body to be used by The Messiah/Christ/Madhi (Sura 43:61) with the "Fig Tree" (Jews) putting forth new shoots/leaves in Palestine.

The Jews were kicked out of Palestine, had no homeland and were persecuted for 2000 years as God's punishment for rejecting, persecuting and murdering their Rightful King and rejecting the New Covenant referred to in Ezekiel 34, culminating in the Holocaust under Adolf Hitler (the Anti-Christ - 666 - who was blessed by the Pope and called "the envoy of God").

The Fig Tree then began to awaken from its withered state and put forth new shoots/leaves in Palestine on 22 April 1948, when the radio announcement went out that the Jewish State in Israel would be established on 14 May 1948. From that year, the desolate, cursed land began, through irrigation, to flourish and put forth new shoots/leaves, with the immigration of Jews from all over the world. Although the "Fig Tree" revived and put forth new shoots, the prophecies clearly state that it will never bear fruit (for God - Matt. 21:19).

So we are fast approaching 72 years since that prophesied event, which we were told would mark the birth of the body to be used by The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi. And this year has already proven to be significant in that we're experiencing an unprecedented grab of power by the governments during what's been deemed a coronavirus (crown-virus) pandemic. Do you think this may help awaken people to consider The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi is already here (like a "thief in the night") and that people are simply not looking in all the right places for THE Rabboni/Master/Teacher/Imam?
Hi & Peace upon You.
Welcome to the topic "Son of Man" in the Holy Bible.

This source with simple english, hope answers your questions and helps you in your brainstorming.

According to us the jewish are and have been cursed in Holy Quran many of them are disbelievers contrary to Christians that are not cursed as a nation by God and many of them are believers of God and friends for humanity. But not jewish folk, most of them are not true jews. Holocaust was a great lie for old times because not only jewish died many others died and what has it to do with palestine a Islamic country with jews and Muslims and Christians living. Have put documentary on this issue in previous posts let me know if you want. After holocaust the lie of september after that the lie of Paris. As you see they cant make bigger lies and lies are getting smaller. They cant make lies like old times. Through lies then they attack others.

The Quran also instructs its readers in multiple places to read and search the Injeel/Gospel accounts, which contain the prophecies of His Second Coming.
What 2nd coming. Its not clear if you consider Messiah and Imam Mahdi same!

And this year has already proven to be significant in that we're experiencing an unprecedented grab of power by the governments during what's been deemed a coronavirus (crown-virus) pandemic. Do you think this may help awaken people to consider The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi is already here (like a "thief in the night") and that people are simply not looking in all the right places for THE Rabboni/Master/Teacher/Imam?
Imam Mahdi lives among us and may talk to us but we dont recognize that he is the one and only Word of God left for us. Corona, even before corona, humans have suffered organ trafficking that earns more money by zions than smuggling weapons. Smuggling weapon. A continent of garbage between america and china kilometers in depth. Drugs by english and americans in afghanistan and other places. Military terrors in oil rich but poor countries. Porn, poor women and girls specially US. False and infamous cults like ex. Mormons, realism from french lo, which are all fake spiritual movements and keeping people busy with unrealistic talk so they dont know in what time they live in. Killings and weapon, specially in america. False reporting by tv and social media. Who controls these and zionism will never succeed because they are failing in West Asia and they french and liberal satanism will fail in Africa also.

So there must be a good force that they are failing these 40 years in West Asia and things are not going forward according to the human made prophecies.. Dont you think so?
 

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Is this a sect thing? Because i've never read this anywhere in Quran or Hadith.
Please mention what you mean 'the thing', what thing! Just because you have yet not read means its a sect thing or it has to do with the Muslim Ummah and all Abrahamic and non Abrahamic paths who talks about a saviour. What Holy Quran and what hadith and in which environment! You men 'Son of Man'? Or that the Saviour is not born yet? Or the issue of His Peace upon Him age? Certainly anyone dealing with hadith have heard about it; impossible not to.
 

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Please mention what you mean 'the thing', what thing!
Mahdi already being born and jews being a cursed nation and that Mahdi lives among us?

Just because you have yet not read means its a sect thing or it has to do with the Muslim Ummah and all Abrahamic and non Abrahamic paths who talks about a saviour.
True, just because we haven't read something doesn't mean it doesn't exist but there is a problem when you actually look for it and can't find it.

What Holy Quran and what hadith and in which environment!
What?
 

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Hi & Peace upon You.
Welcome to the topic "Son of Man" in the Holy Bible.
Thank-you. Likewise peace and good wishes to you.

This source with simple english, hope answers your questions and helps you in your brainstorming.
Thank-you.

According to us the jewish are and have been cursed in Holy Quran many of them are disbelievers contrary to Christians that are not cursed as a nation by God and many of them are believers of God and friends for humanity. But not jewish folk, most of them are not true jews.
Understood. And agreed that most of those who call themselves "Jews" today are neither descended from the tribes of Judah and/or Benjamin, nor even Semitic, by their own admission.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/them-which-say-they-are-jews-but-are-not.6663/

Holocaust was a great lie for old times because not only jewish died many others died and what has it to do with palestine a Islamic country with jews and Muslims and Christians living. Have put documentary on this issue in previous posts let me know if you want.
After holocaust the lie of september after that the lie of Paris. As you see they cant make bigger lies and lies are getting smaller. They cant make lies like old times. Through lies then they attack others.
Thank-you. It's a subject that's already been studied in detail, and is unquestionably a lie, used to promote the counterfeit Jewish (Zionist) state of Israel. The official Red Cross numbers, which include Christians and others who died in the camps, prove the 6,000,000 number to be a lie.


What 2nd coming. Its not clear if you consider Messiah and Imam Mahdi same!
Yes, The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi are the same Spiritual Being (God's Firstborn Son), Who is the ONE and ONLY Teacher/Imam (Matt. 23:8-10, Sura 7:157), the ONE and ONLY Mediator between God and men (1 Tim. 2:5), and the ONE and ONLY High-Priest of All Time (Heb. 6:20, Sura 57:27-28).


There is a lot of unnecessary confusion about this subject, that is keeping true believers (those who are "True in Faith") from uniting, which is one of the central themes in the Quran. We really should all be united in striving to do God's/Allah's Will at all times, exactly as ALL of God's Prophets/Messengers have taught.

God/Allah (the "I AM"), Who is SPIRIT (John 4:24) created the Angels/Jinns/Spirit-Beings/Spiritual Sons (Sura 6:100-101), Who are His Children. The Firstborn/First-created of which is Michael, known here on Earth as The Messiah/Moshiach/Christ/Mahdi, i.e. the Anointed One (the Great Prince and Heir to the Throne).

Christ has visited Earth many times, incarnating different human bodies, as described in the Book (the Bible), which the Quran CONFIRMS (Sura 61:6). For example, He appeared as Melchizedek to Abraham (Gen. 14:18-20), as Elijah (2 kings 2:11, John 3:13) and as Jesus, the human son of the virgin body of Mary, Whom Christ incarnated (John 1:14).

This is how Christ (the immortal spirit-Being) could truthfully say through the mouth of Jesus (the mortal human) that He is NOT OF THIS WORLD (John 8:14 - John 8:23 KJV, John 18:36) and was around BEFORE THE WORLD WAS (John 17:5).

It's also how the Quran can correctly point out that God could NEVER have a human son (Sura 6:100-101), even though He created humans, to use to teach and train the evil jinns who warred against Him (Rev. 12:7-9, Sura 7:11-17, Sura 17:61-65).

Further, it's also how the Quran can correctly state that there is no pagan trinity and that they killed Christ NOT, because Christ is the immortal Spirit-Being/Jinn Who INCARNATED the human body of Jesus, which was crucified at the Passover and was resurrected from the dead 3 days AND 3 nights later.

Sura 4:154-173
4:154. And for their Covenant We raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) We said: "Enter the gate with humility"; and (once again) We commanded them: "Transgress not in the matter of the Sabbath." And we took from them a solemn Covenant.
4:155. (They have incurred divine displeasure): in that they broke their Covenant; that they rejected the Signs of God; that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve God's Word; we need no more)";- nay, God hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little it is that they believe;-
4:156. That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
4:157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ the son of Mary, the Messenger of God";- but they killed Christ not, nor crucified Christ, but so it was made to appear to them (as they crucified the human body called Jesus, that Christ the spirit-Being used), and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) Knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed Christ not:-
4:158. Nay, God raised him up unto Himself and God is Exalted in Power, and in Wisdom;-
4:159. And, of the People of the Book, they all must believe him (Christ) before their death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them (and you) (John 5:22, Sura 43:61);-
4:160. For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) good and wholesome which had been lawful for them;- because they hindered many from God's Way;-
4:161. In that they took usury, though they were forbidden; and that they devoured men's substance wrongfully;- We have prepared for those among them who reject Faith a grievous punishment.
4:162. But those among them who are well-grounded in Knowledge, and the Believers (those who are "True in Faith"), believe in what hath been revealed to thee and what was revealed before thee: and (especially) those who establish constant prayer and practise regular charity and believe God and in the Last Day: to them shall We soon give a great reward.
4:163. We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: We sent inspiration to Abraham; Ishmael; Isaac; Jacob and the (twelve) Tribes (of Israel); to Aaron; Job; Solomon son of David; Jonah; Jesus; and to David We gave the Psalms (in the Old Covenant/Testament, in the Bible).
4:164. Of some Apostles We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- and to Moses God spoke direct;-
4:165. Messengers who gave good news as well as warning, that mankind, after (the coming) of the Apostles, should have no plea against God: for God is Exalted in Power, and Wisdom.
4:166. But God beareth witness that what He hath sent unto thee He hath sent from His (Own) Knowledge, and the angels bear witness: but enough is God for a witness.
4:167. Those who reject Faith and obstruct (men) from The Way of God, have verily strayed far, far away from The Way (The Covenant).
4:168. Those who reject Faith and do wrong,- God will not forgive them nor guide them to any way
4:169. Except the way of Hell-Fire, to dwell therein for ever. And this to God is easy.
4:170. O Mankind! The Messenger hath come to you in truth from God: believe him: it is best for you. But if ye reject Faith, to God belong all things in the heavens and on earth: and God is All-knowing, All-wise.
4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the Truth. Jesus the (human) son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of God; and His Word (John 1:14); which He bestowed on Mary's (human) son; is a spirit-Being (Christ) proceeding from Him (making the human+Being called Jesus+Christ): so believe God and His Apostles. Say NOT "Trinity": DESIST: it will be better for you: for "I AM" is one God. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a human son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.
4:172. Christ commandeth YE to serve and worship God, so do the angels, those nearest (to God): those who scorn His worship and are arrogant,- He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
4:173. But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards,- and more, out of His bounty: but those who are scornful and arrogant, He will punish with a grievous Penalty; nor will they find, besides God, any to protect or help them.

This should also help explain why Jesus+Christ is the human+Being Who receives the most mention and attention in the Quran, which is why Christ is The Mahdi and the ONLY Imam.

Imam Mahdi lives among us and may talk to us but we dont recognize that he is the one and only Word of God left for us.
Agreed, but that needs to change. Not only is Imam Mahdi here among us, but He's been actively standing up and risking His human life to help clear the name of innocent Moslems, in particular those who were falsely accused of being those behind the 7/7/2005 London bombings, as well as the 3 terror patsies who were likewise later falsely accused of "helping" the original 4 who could not possibly have done it.

Please, if you haven't already seen it, watch the "7/7 Ripple Effect", and its two follow-up films: "7/7 Ripple Effect 2" and "7/7 Ripple Effect 3".

The Producer, JAH/Muad'Dib, spent 157 days incarcerated in prisons in Ireland and in England for sending copies of His film as an amicus curiae brief in care of the court where the 3 terror patsies (Waheed Ali, Sadeer Saleem, and Mohammed Shakil) were being tried as "helpers" to the original 4 (Mohammad Sidique Khan, Germaine Lindsay, Shahzad Tanweer and Hasib Hussain) who could not possibly have committed these atrocities. Muad'Dib was found innocent of any wrong-doing after the prosecution played the 7/7 Ripple Effect for the jury, because the evidence in the film is so compelling.

Sadly, very few Moslems have taken notice that our Mahdi/Muad'Dib (Teacher of Righteousness) is already here.

Corona, even before corona, humans have suffered organ trafficking that earns more money by zions than smuggling weapons. Smuggling weapon. A continent of garbage between america and china kilometers in depth. Drugs by english and americans in afghanistan and other places. Military terrors in oil rich but poor countries. Porn, poor women and girls specially US. False and infamous cults like ex. Mormons, realism from french lo, which are all fake spiritual movements and keeping people busy with unrealistic talk so they dont know in what time they live in. Killings and weapon, specially in america. False reporting by tv and social media. Who controls these and zionism will never succeed because they are failing in West Asia and they french and liberal satanism will fail in Africa also.
Agreed. The entire world is on a downward spiral in every conceivable way, and yet most are blind to it. Even now, with the Zionist-controlled governments exerting unprecedented power over the people, placing most of the world on "lockdown" under the guise it's for our own benefit, people still refuse to turn from these liars back to Allah and His Perfect Law, given to us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free.

Isaiah 3:12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and lead thee astray, TO THY DESTRUCTION.

So there must be a good force that they are failing these 40 years in West Asia and things are not going forward according to the human made prophecies.. Dont you think so?
Absolutely. The Good Force is The Most High God (Allah), Who is only allowing this evil WE have created to continue to show us our own insanity, to turn the faithful back to obeying Him and His Perfect Law ONLY.

May The Force be with you, always.
 
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I thought no one knows who he is right now..isn’t he supposed to be named muhammad which is why many muslims have that name, in hopes it will be them?
the Mahdi is of the quraysh tribe and more specifically the lineage of Ali and Fatima (the daughter of the prophet), regardless of whether you believe in the prophecy or in his existance, at least you should theoretically have some clue before you r*pe this forum with more of your stupidity.
 

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Hi, again same thing. I dont say its a fallacy, there is no evidence, historical proven narrations that He Peace upon Him is not born and those gossips are faked with help of jewish hypocrites; infact there is evidence that Imam Mahdi Peace upon Him is born and living among only that we may not recognize him so your wild, barbaric cia takes... You mean knowing personally or knowing his lineage, you see there is difference and you can watch the video it tells there the lineage.

The discussion here is that about 90 times the word "Son of Man" is mention in Holy Bible but only about 20 instances you can say it means Prophet Jesus Peace upon Him and not the rest and its up to the christian priests specially at this time to properly pay attention and not jump on jews and jews jumping on them and try to clarify and explain it.

So the discussion is SON OF MAN IN THE BIBLE.
So, no one really knows if he is born and living? You just assume he is?
 

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the Mahdi is of the quraysh tribe and more specifically the lineage of Ali and Fatima (the daughter of the prophet), regardless of whether you believe in the prophecy or in his existance, at least you should theoretically have some clue before you r*pe this forum with more of your stupidity.
How could I r*pe this forum? Aren’t you being overly dramatic here about nothing?

That’s what I read years back..that people named their kids muhammad in hopes he would be the muhammad, the mahdi, because no one knows who he will be....and if you don’t know who he will be how can you guys know he’s alive now?
 

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How could I r*pe this forum? Aren’t you being overly dramatic here about nothing?

That’s what I read years back..that people named their kids muhammad in hopes he would be the muhammad, the mahdi, because no one knows who he will be....and if you don’t know who he will be how can you guys know he’s alive now?
No one names their kids these names hoping they will be the person in question
 
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