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They were created by lifelong researchers like John D Coleman. I think they were created for better understanding. Even I don't believe its exactly like the way mentioned in the charts.I love graphics like these because someone, somewhere, believed in the concept so much that they attempted to string together all the conspiracies into a cohesive unit. I don't believe for a second that any such structures exist, but it's fun to look at them.
Better understanding of what?They were created by lifelong researchers like John D Coleman. I think they were created for better understanding. Even I don't believe its exactly like the way mentioned in the charts.
Better understanding of of the elite system and all the organizations that they use. Its worth it.Better understanding of what?
Humans are incredibly error-prone. There is no one perfect organization that lasts very long. Even if it appears to be so, eventually infighting happens, then it cracks and implodes. Externally, wars happen. Internally, wars happen. You can't name a single great organization standing today that hasn't at one point or another suffered from great distress and partial collapse.
It's very hard to believe humans could create a system so exact and complex without any major fissures. So precise that it, no matter how it fights within itself, can keep a conspiracy to control humanity together. Heck the original Illuminati lasted about a decade before it crumbled.
Using the logic that humans are so imprecise and error-prone that eventually the realizing that it would collapse at some point leads one to people like David Icke... And even if you're a proponent of the 'ancient aliens' theory, they would be even more dysfunctional.
In my view, are there high-level people who would like to see humanity treated like cattle? Absolutely.
Pushing an agenda to confuse and control people through chaos? Yep. It's an effective tactic.
Do some people want a cohesive vision of the future with a ruling class and a lower class? Yep.
Is everything a big conspiracy tied-together and neat? Nope.
Absolutely right - As mentioned by Icke in his book the children of the matrix.In my opinion there doesn't have to be a "big" conspiracy. If I get you right, Victoria, you think everything is connected and ruled in every position, in every organisation or, at least, in every higher levels of every organisations. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But you don't have to have someone in a position of power in every single organisation you want to control. You just have to rule the key structures: military (power), financial sector (money), companys (consumption/entertainment), politics (laws), yeah, what else?
Now lets say you have 300 people you wanna put in positions of power, because you already can, you're established. Easy going I would say. Some people will resist, threat(en?) them. Still not convinced? Kill them, or buy them and kill them maybe afterwards.
Now you can pull the strings and open the right doors. The normal people in positions of power won't even notice what you did, maybe the have some doubts about some people and their decisions but they get their money as well, by the state. So why bother?
Take banks for example: most of them I think know that they steal money from the people but who cares? I'm doing fine! Porsche is already cleaned and ready for a trip on the weekend, fuck morality.
That is my idea of how it works.
I very like the movie "Margin Call" as it shows really simple how power-structures are working, especially when money comes into play.
Oh, no. I think you've got me wrong. I don't think everything is connected and I find these charts pretty funny.In my opinion there doesn't have to be a "big" conspiracy. If I get you right, Victoria, you think everything is connected and ruled in every position, in every organisation or, at least, in every higher levels of every organisations. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's very hard to believe humans could create a system so exact and complex without any major fissures.
The Illuminati are only the front guys to this conspiracy, there are higher powers battling each other and there are rules to this conflict that can be bend to a certain degree.The more I read into it the more I realized that this has been going on for eons. It's the same as with apocalypse doomsdayers. The end is coming... next week.... unless it doesn't. But it's coming.
hope their timeline is way off.....That created a WW3 free timeline, but were not done yet.
Logically, the many religious people on this forum would have to believe humans are not behind this. I believe black magic and contact with demons is real and is being utilized in this scheme.Better understanding of what?
Humans are incredibly error-prone. There is no one perfect organization that lasts very long. Even if it appears to be so, eventually infighting happens, then it cracks and implodes. Externally, wars happen. Internally, wars happen. You can't name a single great organization standing today that hasn't at one point or another suffered from great distress and partial collapse.
It's very hard to believe humans could create a system so exact and complex without any major fissures.
What do you believe in? You don't think real evil, as in evil that is supernatural and beyond what human beings are capable of, exists? Anybody discarding the atheist [freemasonic] view of Creation will have to face that there are very few limits to what is possible and many things we don't know of... and I don't buy the silly idea we're just animated pieces of dirt that came into being and exist for no particular reason.Is everything a big conspiracy tied-together and neat? Nope.
How is the Titanic movie mocking us?So many people that opposed them in those times were killed and the world never knew, romantic films were made about it in our face to mock us - The Titanic.
The Titanic was a mass execution of many opposers to the Illuminati, and those that weren't onboard were scared to death afterward, because if the ones that you oppose are capable of something on that scale and get away with it - then your life is nothing to them.How is the Titanic movie mocking us?
So do you ascribe to the ancient aliens/demon theory? I find that one interesting.The Illuminati are only the front guys to this conspiracy, there are higher powers battling each other and there are rules to this conflict that can be bend to a certain degree.
Me too but it is just a story. Whoever believes that probably watches too much Ancient Aliens.I think that's a really cool story.
Then you"ll keep not believing till the end of times.I don't really believe anything until I see undeniable proof for myself
I liked your theory [ the one you don't believe in ],So do you ascribe to the ancient aliens/demon theory? I find that one interesting.
The idea that many hundreds of thousands of years ago beings from another planet or plane of existence came to the fertile Earth to live, is interesting. They saw the natural beauty of Earth and its many inhabitants and decided to live and work here. Against the morality and wishes of their own race (who would later abandon them), they used their knowledge and technology to speed up the natural evolution of a somewhat intelligent being by injecting their own DNA into the offspring, thus creating humans. Humans, being primitive and submissive, they were seen as no more than cattle or workhorses for the elite aliens. Slaves. The society of this race chugged along fine for many thousands of years until a split in the family happened, and part of this alien race went off to teach humans higher knowledge. It was unconscionable to let this intelligent and self-aware race of beings suffer under the current regime. Thus you get the story of Lucifer, Prometheus, Ishtar, Inanna, Isis. It wasn't out of rebellion that they gave humans "fire" or knowledge, but by extreme guilt. Thus began the wars that are seen to carry on today. El/An/God tried to undo the damage by casting the rebels out of the higher places, and by trying to kill the humans. It didn't work. The war lasted until the old race's material bodies gave out and they resorted to aether to survive - becoming what we would know as "demons" and hitching a ride on humankind until strong enough again.
^^ I think that's a really cool story.
As for what I really believe, I don't really believe anything until I see undeniable proof for myself. So far I've not seen proof that a cohesive "Illuminati" exists without major flaws. So I just kind of dabble.