Swiftturtle
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I was sent this. It’s a take I hadn’t considered before.
But it wasn’t on the right hand or the forehead of everyone in the world was it?The mark was a Roman coin, as Rome pretty extended from England to Spain to Germany and the Middle East and North Africa. Literally, the “known” world for people of that time. The Emperor’s face was on each coin.
There won’t be any place to immigrate to...the antichrist will have all control.We have to immigrate to countries that resist the new world order. Christian or Muslim.
NESARA, and Q have no credibility at all. She blindly believes what new agers and QAnon believers say, which are only created to pacify conspiracy theorists and lull them into a false sense of security. I remember new agers writing about NESARA 20 years ago and it has not happened, and probably never will.I was sent this. It’s a take I hadn’t considered before.
A person can fall away from the faith and lose their salvation.@Cintra, taking the Mark is not just a physical thing. It’s spiritual, and just as a person’s salvation cannot be rescinded, neither can a person’s acceptance of the Mark. Cutting it out (if such a thing could be done, and I don’t believe it will be possible) would be a useless gesture. The Mark will be a permanent biological and spiritual designation.
Maybe I don’t know maybe the whole right hand and forehead is John saying it will be among the Jews and as common place as the prayer boxes that men wear on their head and arm?But it wasn’t on the right hand or the forehead of everyone in the world was it?I think this is the day and age the Bible is talking about. We are all connected in the world..we can all see the 2 witnesses on any device we choose...there hasn’t been any days like these with all our technology.
Then if that is the case, what is the point of salvation? What is the point of the cross if you can "lose" it, like someone can "lose" their keys. That makes God into a liar. It mocks what Christ did, the work Christ did on the cross. However, I do believe that one can "know" about salvation and maybe grow up with it, but never really let it take root in their heart. Similar to how the seeds fell on land, but got choked out by the weeds. Those people didn't lose their salvation, but they died because other influences outside of themselves suffocated them and held them back from growth.A person can fall away from the faith and lose their salvation.
Hebrews 6:4-6
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
He says it will be the name of the antichrist or the number of his name in the mark and it will be on a persons right hand or on their forehead. He will also cause all the small and great, rich and poor, free men and slaves to be given a mark and no one will be able to buy or sell without it. Revelation 13:16-17Maybe I don’t know maybe the whole right hand and forehead is John saying it will be among the Jews and as common place as the prayer boxes that men wear on their head and arm?
Then if that is the case, what is the point of salvation? What is the point of the cross if you can "lose" it, like someone can "lose" their keys. That makes God into a liar. It mocks what Christ did, the work Christ did on the cross. However, I do believe that one can "know" about salvation and maybe grow up with it, but never really let it take root in their heart. Similar to how the seeds fell on land, but got choked out by the weeds. Those people didn't lose their salvation, but they died because other influences outside of themselves suffocated them and held them back from growth.
I think, that what is said here in the case of Hebrews is that the author is talking to Jews. Jews who KNEW GOD, they KNEW the Torah, they Knew the commandments, and some even followed Christ on earth, saw his miracles, and may have even saw his death. Some may have even been at Pentecost and saw the Holy Spirit descend. They literally did experience the miracles, and YET they cast it aside, let other stuff choke out the life, went back to the old way of doing things. (See Galatians for this). What does he mean by crucify TO THEMSELVES the Son of God? Basically, his death meant nothing because nothing took root. AKA they were never saved in the first place because they never allowed Christ fully into their nephesh (soul) their "soul eye" was blind to the truth of who Yeshua REALLY was.
That’s certainly what Satan wants you to think, but it’s not what the Bible says.A person can fall away from the faith and lose their salvation.
Hebrews 6:4-6
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
The point is..you can’t escape what is coming upon the earth...not all countries will give up at the same time. we will live in faithful countries first. when they all fall, we will live in the mountains.
I disagree, I think that’s what God wants us to know...otherwise why put it in His inspired word? We can go back to the osas thread...especially if we are gonna be slinging scripture..it will be easier there than here.That’s certainly what Satan wants you to think, but it’s not what the Bible says.
I'm not talking about an absolute escape... I mean escape from the chip.
The point is..you can’t escape what is coming upon the earth...
Luke 21:25-26
There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
If in chip you mean the mark...you won’t be able to escape it. Idk about getting chipped.I'm not talking about an absolute escape... I mean escape from the chip.
Thanks!The "mark of the Beast" being a microchip makes zero sense. Anything electronic can and will be hacked and even if you needed this chip to buy and sell, it would eventually be spoofed... And there absolutely would be a black market going on. That's the issue with using revelations as a guide the future... There's a lot that can't happen as stated unless human nature completely changes and why the futurist reading of revelations is poor.
It is the name of the beast or the number of his name that will ultimately be the mark, I think a tattoo would work, you can put it on the right hand or the forehead. It might be that simple...The "mark of the Beast" being a microchip makes zero sense. Anything electronic can and will be hacked and even if you needed this chip to buy and sell, it would eventually be spoofed... And there absolutely would be a black market going on. That's the issue with using revelations as a guide the future... There's a lot that can't happen as stated unless human nature completely changes and why the futurist reading of revelations is poor.
Over two-thirds of the Bible is prophecy, >99% of which has already been fulfilled in exact and minute detail. Only a fool would look at that track record, and think that the remaining <1% won't likewise be fulfilled in similar fashion.The "mark of the Beast" being a microchip makes zero sense. Anything electronic can and will be hacked and even if you needed this chip to buy and sell, it would eventually be spoofed... And there absolutely would be a black market going on. That's the issue with using revelations as a guide the future... There's a lot that can't happen as stated unless human nature completely changes and why the futurist reading of revelations is poor.