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'Hundreds' of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex
http://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740
meaning what, exactly? science was wrong all this time about 2 genders? the science is settled for "climate change", but not for the 2 genders, i guess.Gender exists but maybe not in the way we were used to think.
who denied their existence? the thread is about the trans- propaganda unraveling (finally) since there are, in reality, VERY few individuals with gender dysphoria. people are led to believe they are trans today when just 20 years ago tomboys wouldnt raise an eyebrow. kids naturally go through phases, but today, the slightest act (or none at all) could trigger a leftist parent to drag their child in for hormone shots or sexual reassignment surgery.And trans people also DO exist.
I think the accepted theory now is that is a social construct or something. And don't make a mistake, biological sex and genders aren't the same. There are only 2 biological genders depending on your chromosomes but gender may refer to how society sees us. As an example, you can be a biological male but who identifies as female in front of all society, this would be a trans-woman. And that's what science says now, whether it's biology, psychology or sociology.meaning what, exactly? science was wrong all this time about 2 genders? the science is settled for "climate change", but not for the 2 genders, i guess.
Ok, I agree with the whole "leftist parent drag their child to take hormones thing", kinda. But I believe being trans just go way far off in terms of complexity than just being a tomboy or whatever. We just didn't know back then.who denied their existence? the thread is about the trans- propaganda unraveling (finally) since there are, in reality, VERY few individuals with gender dysphoria. people are led to believe they are trans today when just 20 years ago tomboys wouldnt raise an eyebrow. kids naturally go through phases, but today, the slightest act (or none at all) could trigger a leftist parent to drag their child in for hormone shots or sexual reassignment surgery.
ill go with 'something' since there are two genders. frankly put, anything in between is a birth defect.I think the accepted theory now is that is a social construct or something.
we also didnt have the level of propaganda we have today. we also didnt have the levels of estrogen mimicking compounds as prevalent as we have today. throw in "the science is settled!" from leftist organizations, and voila! trans-fact.But I believe being trans just go way far off in terms of complexity than just being a tomboy or whatever. We just didn't know back then.
Sure, whatever rocks your boat. I believe in the two genders and also in the existence of transgender or non-binary individuals.ill go with 'something' since there are two genders. frankly put, anything in between is a birth defect.
Ok, so you're presenting me a video made by a member of the board of directors of the National Association for Research & THERAPY OF HOMOSEXUALITY, an association that blatantly support the disgusting conversion therapies. Are these the sources you bring to debate trans or LGBT+ rights? Like, c'mon!we also didnt have the level of propaganda we have today. we also didnt have the levels of estrogen mimicking compounds as prevalent as we have today. throw in "the science is settled!" from leftist organizations, and voila! trans-fact.
2 minute link here that says everything: https://www.bitchute.com/video/IWVTJWoSVZ9A/
"I'm for truth no matter who tells it" - malcolm xOk, so you're presenting me a video made by a member of the board of directors of the National Association for Research & THERAPY OF HOMOSEXUALITY, an association that blatantly support the disgusting conversion therapies. Are these the sources you bring to debate trans or LGBT+ rights? Like, c'mon!
yes, basic anatomy rocks my boat.Sure, whatever rocks your boat. I believe in the two genders and also in the existence of transgender or non-binary individuals.
No, her point is not valid. After all, the american college of pediatricians which she represents apart from the other anti-LGBT association is nothing else but a conservative think tank who believes adoption of children by gay people is wrong and it also advocates for conversion therapies. Not the most impartial source out there, don't you think?"I'm for truth no matter who tells it" - malcolm x
regardless of who she is or represents, her point is valid.
"Basic anatomy rocks my boat" Yeah, that's biological sex, we get it. And they're not deluded, that's just you. We live in a society and trans people have all the rights to live in the same one as yours, their presence is not forcing you to do anything, again, that's just you.moog: ill go with 'something' since there are two genders. frankly put, anything in between is a birth defect.
yes, basic anatomy rocks my boat.
non-binary individuals can rock yours, but its a psychological issue, not a physical one (and certainly not a natural one). we can agree that one is free to believe and think and feel whatever they like. just dont force me to accept their delusions as reality. because they are not.
did you know that in every US state, a person can get therapy for becoming gay, but if you are gay, there are some states/provinces where its forbidden to seek therapy to become straight? is that impartial?No, her point is not valid. After all, the american college of pediatricians which she represents apart from the other anti-LGBT association is nothing else but a conservative think tank who believes adoption of children by gay people is wrong and it also advocates for conversion therapies. Not the most impartial source out there, don't you think?
Those losers have nothing to do with the biggest association of pediatricians in the US which is the American Academy of Pediatrics. It's as simple as doing just one search on Google or Wikipedia.
those with gender dysphoria have a psychosis. and again, never has anyone taken away their rights. they always have had their rights, just like everyone else which is why their movement is silly. when they start demanding that others accept their mental issues by addressing them a certain way or be fined/jailed for it, they have gone too far. thats where the line is drawn."Basic anatomy rocks my boat" Yeah, that's biological sex, we get it. And they're not deluded, that's just you. We live in a society and trans people have all the rights to live in the same one as yours, their presence is not forcing you to do anything, again, that's just you.
Transgenderism is not just a mental issue, it's way more complex than that, but for some reason people can't get their heads around it. Not all people feel gender or gender expression the same as one might do.did you know that in every US state, a person can get therapy for becoming gay, but if you are gay, there are some states/provinces where its forbidden to seek therapy to become straight? is that impartial?
you do know who funds these associations, dont you? follow the money and youll see where the agenda originates. scratch the surface and youll see that theres corporate money behind it. scratch deeper and youll find the rockefeller foundation/NWO funding. the last group i would trust are "associations", "agencies", and "councils" which are easily controlled to issue through their slanted medical papal bulls to the doctors to regurgitate to their patients (and fellow scientists). these are the same groups that insisted vaccines are safe, fluoride is great for you, and that the air in NYC after 9/11 was perfectly safe.
those with gender dysphoria have a psychosis. and again, never has anyone taken away their rights. they always have had their rights, just like everyone else which is why their movement is silly. when they start demanding that others accept their mental issues by addressing them a certain way or be fined/jailed for it, they have gone too far. thats where the line is drawn.
we are bombarded by the medias message of encouraging people to be trans, bi, gay, etc. theres plenty of psychological support groups for people who wish to go the LGBTQ route, yet for those who desire to become straight again, theres plenty of obstacles to conversion therapy, if it is even legal. your article makes that abundantly clear.Transgenderism is not just a mental issue, it's way more complex than that, but for some reason people can't get their heads around it. Not all people feel gender or gender expression the same as one might do.
Also, there's no "therapy for becoming gay" anywhere. That's just sound like some made-up bs to rationalize the horror that are conversion therapies. No, dude, conversion therapies aren't these easy, painless, common and relaxing methods that magically turn LGBT+ people into straight people. There is nothing good or sweet or funny about conversion therapies. They're fucked up and they fuck up the people that go through them. Please, read more on the subject.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy
None of the stated above are any similar or a "gay version" of conversion therapies where one person is put through so much psychological or physical abuse just because some people can't get their head around the idea of someone being different or having a different sexual orientation. Some media's message to "embrace who you are" is not a conversion therapy, like at all.we are bombarded by the medias message of encouraging people to be trans, bi, gay, etc. theres plenty of psychological support groups for people who wish to go the LGBTQ route, yet for those who desire to become straight again, theres plenty of obstacles to conversion therapy, if it is even legal. your article makes that abundantly clear.
why is it that many who are sexually abused as children begin to have homosexual feelings at the time of the abuse? coincidence?
of course transgenderism is a mental issue. theres either faulty brain wiring due to abuse, a hormone imbalance either innate (rare) or chemically induced through lifestyle, or, in the case of a child, its transgenderism by proxy as the progressive parents imagine seeing signs that their child has gender dysphoria-- this is the most dangerous instance of all, and one that many progressives wholeheartedly embrace. if gay conversion therapy is wrong, why the hypocrisy of parental meddling with gender dysphoria with their toddlers?
like the video i posted states, if you want cut off an arm or a leg due to 'body integrity identity disorder', psychologists you are mentality ill. if you want to cut off your genitals, thats A- OK. you cant have it both ways.
I would imagine that “Gay Conversion Therapy” contains practices as broad as the practitioners methods? As such, you might expect a whole spectrum of “treatments” on offer, from pure lunacy to (at least possibly) well thought out therapies.None of the stated above are any similar or a "gay version" of conversion therapies where one person is put through so much psychological or physical abuse just because some people can't get their head around the idea of someone being different or having a different sexual orientation. Some media's message to "embrace who you are" is not a conversion therapy, like at all.
Also, I'm gonna request any sources on the stuff you have said, like "most children develop homosexuality because of abuse" or "transgenderism is definitely a mental issue". And PLEASE, do some research on what a gay conversion therapy is and how it's done, it's not this beautiful godly thing you think it is. It's way more cruel and more upsetting than you believe, and that's why there are somewhat forbidden in some places.
Your acceptance or non-acceptance cannot magically change the identity of someone with actual gender dysphoria. In other words, who the hell asked you?just dont force me to accept their delusions as reality. because they are not.