How To Unite Muslims, Jews And Christians

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How to Unite Muslims, Jews and Christians
(This article originally appeared on "Time to Think", 28 Jan)

Before disclosing a simple way to unify these peoples, a brief summary of their religious texts is needed.

First up: Islam.

Many Christians would assume Muslims use the Koran as a basis for their radical way of thinking and acting. They do not. They use another set of religious texts known as the Hadith; and each Islamic sect recognizes different ones. Hadiths are narratives written by their elders, that have become “Traditions” giving their followers a set of guidelines.

In Arabic, Islam means “Will of God” and Muslim means “True in Faith – Faithful”. The foundation of their instruction came through Prophet Muhammad; who received revelation from Allah, the Arabic word for “God”, through Archangel Gabriel. It is called the Koran, because it means “Recitation”. The Koran recognizes both the Torah and Gospel as originating from Allah/God. In fact, the Koran instructs Muslims to read, fulfill and obey God’s Covenant found in the Bible (Sura 5:8; 16:91) and obey Christ (Sura 43:61).

The Hadith or hadiths were originally written in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, centuries after Muhammad died. Muhammad was an “example”, an “imam”, of how to be God’s friend by listening to and obeying Him. Unfortunately, over time, men corrupted the teachings of Muhammad through their own written texts known as hadiths, which have been expounded on and interpreted by men through their generations. It is these hadiths that divided Islam; and false modern-day imams are the ones who incite radical behavior.

Because the Koran instructs Muslims to obey God’s Covenant, early Meccan leaders had to discredit the Bible and invent their own covenant, to protect their lucrative business tied to pilgrimages to their once heathen-city; thus, they intentionally made it impossible for anyone reading the Hadith to be able to understand the Koran and God’s simple Truth. They have persuaded their followers to believe that only religious clerics can correctly interpret the Koran; similar to what the Catholics said about priests and the Bible, long ago.

A radical example of Muslim’s circumventing what God Wills and what they do is Sharia. This doctrine is not in the Koran. Conveniently, it helps Saudi Arabia instill fear to control its population. Supposedly, it is opposed to human legislation, but ironically, that is exactly what Sharia is.

The Koran is not a difficult read; it’s pretty straightforward. Muslims can say they place the Koran above their Hadith; but their actions speak louder than their words. They are following the edicts of man-made writings; thus, they are following “traditions of men or the elders”, and not following God.

Next up: Judaism.

Right off the bat, many believe that Judaism is the religion of the Jews. Yet, the vast majority of today’s Jews are made up of gentile races that converted to Judaism. And Judaism is a religion that does not refer to the Israelite Tribe of Judah, in the sense that people believe it does. Judaism is a way of life that encompasses their religion, philosophy and culture; and most of them practice what is written in the Talmud, and many are actually atheists. The Talmud is a collection of writings, or instructions, made up of over 60 books; and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis. The Talmud – the central text in Rabbinic Judaism – is the basis for all codes of Jewish legislation, and is widely quoted in rabbinic literature.

Just like in Islam, Judaism is made up of divisions such as Orthodox, Conservative and Reform. But before all this division, the actual tribe of Judah lived in Jerusalem; and they originally read and practiced The Torah; which was given to Moses by God on Mount Sinai. The Torah includes the first five books of the Bible – Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. After the fall of the First Temple, most of Judah was enslaved in Babylon; and when Jerusalem was vacated, people from neighboring Edom moved in.

Eventually, practicing The Torah was replaced by practicing the Talmud; and by the time Jesus showed up in the Holy Lands, Edomite Gentiles who converted to Judaism used their man-made Talmud to remain in power. These are the clerics Jesus came up against; and they didn’t want to lose their control and wealth.

Their fraudulent practice was made clear by Jesus when they asked Him why His disciples transgressed the Tradition of the Elders (Matt. 15:2-9). They were referring to the Talmud. Jesus asked the rabbis why they transgressed the Commandment of God by their Tradition.

Jesus informed them that they had already made the Commandments of God of none effect in governing the people with the Talmud instead of The Torah. Jesus also had a clear message for them – return to God’s Law. He was not there to destroy God’s Law but to fulfill, or fully preach, it (Matt. 5:17-20). He was there to destroy their man-made legislation – the Talmud.

In essence, Jews that practice the Talmud are radicals. The Talmud instructs them to do very unGodly things to others; and some of these traditions made it into the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


Last up: Christianity.


The easy path – not really! Most Christians believe that if someone simply accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior, he secures his ticket to heaven. The process is usually done by saying one “accepts Jesus” as his Lord, followed by a baptism with water. There’s a big flaw to this line of thinking. The New Testament of Jesus – The Gospels – did not widen the gate to Heaven. Jesus said The Way is strait and narrow that leads to Life eternal; and broad is the path that leads to destruction (Matt. 7:13-14).

Christians were given both the Old Testament and the New Testament in the Holy Bible for a reason. The Old Testament contains The Torah; which outlines God’s Law, Commandments, Judgements and Statutes that Jesus Christ instructed followers to obey. Again, Jesus did not come to abolish God’s Law, but to preach it. The only practice in the Old Testament that was abolished was animal substitute sacrifice, because He replaced it with “Self”-sacrifice.

He didn’t go through all that anguish for so-called Christians to live exactly how they selfishly want; thinking at the end of the day that they are “already” forgiven. He set an example – an example to be Christ-like in words, thoughts, and actions; and it can prove to be difficult, and requires discipline. This discipline was the new animal sacrifice – crucifying one’s own selfish nature. And unless “Christians” do it; they will never see Heaven.

Those were His teachings; yet, Christianity still went ahead and widened their own path. Just like with Islam and Judaism, Christianity is divided. Men created different denominations like Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, Southern Baptist, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Scientists and many more.

Each denomination has its own set of rules governing them; some churches have combined into “Conventions”, which are governing-type bodies that set standards of practice nation-wide and internationally. They publish a lot about their beliefs, practices and goals. And although God told us that He does not like repetitious and public prayers, churches opt to still produce catechisms for members to recite and repeat, like the Apostle’s Creed.

The most widely used catechism belongs to the Catholic Church. A catechism is a summary, doctrine or manual written by Catholic elders and used instead of the Bible. Popes also issue edicts known as papal bulls (BS), or decrees. The Catholic Church is riddled with atrocities for torturing and killing Christians and others.

Like the Muslim clerics who feel the Koran is too hard for the layperson to understand, even though the Koran says the opposite, the Catholics believe the same about the Bible. In fact, at one time it was a crime to possess or read the Bible, punishable by imprisonment and death. And of course, the main reason was all about controlling the masses; and protecting their lucrative business of false religion, and hiding Bible Truth about themselves.

Catechisms are another form of “traditions of the elders” or men; again circumventing the Holy Book; in extreme behaviors and beliefs that are contrary to God’s Commands found in the Bible.

The Root Cause of Division: Listening to Lucifer.

Lucifer and Luciferians have infiltrated all religions using the same tactic: develop and promote doctrine written by man and inspired by Lucifer the Devil, which means “liar”. Next, they made their followers depend on and turn to these man-made “narratives, traditions and doctrines” instead of to the Holy Books, which set man’s clerics above God in governing the people.

Lucifer has led men – all men– away from the Holy Books given and inspired by God, for a reason – to divide and conquer.

It’s Time for Unity: The Religion of Truth.

We need to return to obeying only God’s instructions, given to us in the Holy Books. This means throwing out all other man-made doctrine – the Hadith, the Talmud, the Catechism – all of which has only served to divide the world, not unite it. And until we unite, it will only get worse, because Lucifer’s scheming and wars aren’t over.

It means going back to the original Books, not the ones further corrupted by man with their little additions, alterations, and deletions. For example, Meccan writers changed Isaac to Ishmael as Abraham’s sacrifice when the Koran says that Isaac was the “Good News”. Another example is the Book of Enoch/Idris and John’s third book of Revelation need to be put back in the Bible.

The [I AM] wants all of us to be on the same page – following His Religion of Truth.

He has given us the unifying answer with His King of kings’ Bible, which is available for free on-line reading. It is given to us as the last generation of souls, to resurrect our Beings. The King of kings’ Bible includes the Old Covenant, New Covenant and Holy Koran harmonized together and cross-referenced.

When Jesus Christ said that we must become like little children, He meant that we need to humble ourselves and be willing to start again from the Beginning and learn the Truth (Matt. 18:3-4), instead of the lies we have learned and believe.

This can be a very simple process.

Additional Reading:
The Holy Koran and Muslim Information
Apostle Paul’s Message
The Truth about Rabbis, Priests and Imams
How to Defeat The New Word Order (aka Synagogue of Satan)
The Illuminati and the Council of Foreign Relations One-World Government Conspiracy
The Way home or face The Fire

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Before it gets ugly here i just say, it is easy to point out flaws, religions are man made, infiltrated etc...imperfect, like everything in our lives...But the only unity we have left is under antichrist/dajjal banner...We do not need unity, we are different and thats completely okay..We could use some more tolerance for sure, just not unity where all sides would be forced to part with their beliefs to some extent
 

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How to Unite Muslims, Jews and Christians
(This article originally appeared on "Time to Think", 28 Jan)

Before disclosing a simple way to unify these peoples, a brief summary of their religious texts is needed.

First up: Islam.

Many Christians would assume Muslims use the Koran as a basis for their radical way of thinking and acting. They do not. They use another set of religious texts known as the Hadith; and each Islamic sect recognizes different ones. Hadiths are narratives written by their elders, that have become “Traditions” giving their followers a set of guidelines.

In Arabic, Islam means “Will of God” and Muslim means “True in Faith – Faithful”. The foundation of their instruction came through Prophet Muhammad; who received revelation from Allah, the Arabic word for “God”, through Archangel Gabriel. It is called the Koran, because it means “Recitation”. The Koran recognizes both the Torah and Gospel as originating from Allah/God. In fact, the Koran instructs Muslims to read, fulfill and obey God’s Covenant found in the Bible (Sura 5:8; 16:91) and obey Christ (Sura 43:61).

The Hadith or hadiths were originally written in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, centuries after Muhammad died. Muhammad was an “example”, an “imam”, of how to be God’s friend by listening to and obeying Him. Unfortunately, over time, men corrupted the teachings of Muhammad through their own written texts known as hadiths, which have been expounded on and interpreted by men through their generations. It is these hadiths that divided Islam; and false modern-day imams are the ones who incite radical behavior.

Because the Koran instructs Muslims to obey God’s Covenant, early Meccan leaders had to discredit the Bible and invent their own covenant, to protect their lucrative business tied to pilgrimages to their once heathen-city; thus, they intentionally made it impossible for anyone reading the Hadith to be able to understand the Koran and God’s simple Truth. They have persuaded their followers to believe that only religious clerics can correctly interpret the Koran; similar to what the Catholics said about priests and the Bible, long ago.

A radical example of Muslim’s circumventing what God Wills and what they do is Sharia. This doctrine is not in the Koran. Conveniently, it helps Saudi Arabia instill fear to control its population. Supposedly, it is opposed to human legislation, but ironically, that is exactly what Sharia is.

The Koran is not a difficult read; it’s pretty straightforward. Muslims can say they place the Koran above their Hadith; but their actions speak louder than their words. They are following the edicts of man-made writings; thus, they are following “traditions of men or the elders”, and not following God.

Next up: Judaism.

Right off the bat, many believe that Judaism is the religion of the Jews. Yet, the vast majority of today’s Jews are made up of gentile races that converted to Judaism. And Judaism is a religion that does not refer to the Israelite Tribe of Judah, in the sense that people believe it does. Judaism is a way of life that encompasses their religion, philosophy and culture; and most of them practice what is written in the Talmud, and many are actually atheists. The Talmud is a collection of writings, or instructions, made up of over 60 books; and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis. The Talmud – the central text in Rabbinic Judaism – is the basis for all codes of Jewish legislation, and is widely quoted in rabbinic literature.

Just like in Islam, Judaism is made up of divisions such as Orthodox, Conservative and Reform. But before all this division, the actual tribe of Judah lived in Jerusalem; and they originally read and practiced The Torah; which was given to Moses by God on Mount Sinai. The Torah includes the first five books of the Bible – Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. After the fall of the First Temple, most of Judah was enslaved in Babylon; and when Jerusalem was vacated, people from neighboring Edom moved in.

Eventually, practicing The Torah was replaced by practicing the Talmud; and by the time Jesus showed up in the Holy Lands, Edomite Gentiles who converted to Judaism used their man-made Talmud to remain in power. These are the clerics Jesus came up against; and they didn’t want to lose their control and wealth.

Their fraudulent practice was made clear by Jesus when they asked Him why His disciples transgressed the Tradition of the Elders (Matt. 15:2-9). They were referring to the Talmud. Jesus asked the rabbis why they transgressed the Commandment of God by their Tradition.

Jesus informed them that they had already made the Commandments of God of none effect in governing the people with the Talmud instead of The Torah. Jesus also had a clear message for them – return to God’s Law. He was not there to destroy God’s Law but to fulfill, or fully preach, it (Matt. 5:17-20). He was there to destroy their man-made legislation – the Talmud.

In essence, Jews that practice the Talmud are radicals. The Talmud instructs them to do very unGodly things to others; and some of these traditions made it into the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


Last up: Christianity.


The easy path – not really! Most Christians believe that if someone simply accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior, he secures his ticket to heaven. The process is usually done by saying one “accepts Jesus” as his Lord, followed by a baptism with water. There’s a big flaw to this line of thinking. The New Testament of Jesus – The Gospels – did not widen the gate to Heaven. Jesus said The Way is strait and narrow that leads to Life eternal; and broad is the path that leads to destruction (Matt. 7:13-14).

Christians were given both the Old Testament and the New Testament in the Holy Bible for a reason. The Old Testament contains The Torah; which outlines God’s Law, Commandments, Judgements and Statutes that Jesus Christ instructed followers to obey. Again, Jesus did not come to abolish God’s Law, but to preach it. The only practice in the Old Testament that was abolished was animal substitute sacrifice, because He replaced it with “Self”-sacrifice.

He didn’t go through all that anguish for so-called Christians to live exactly how they selfishly want; thinking at the end of the day that they are “already” forgiven. He set an example – an example to be Christ-like in words, thoughts, and actions; and it can prove to be difficult, and requires discipline. This discipline was the new animal sacrifice – crucifying one’s own selfish nature. And unless “Christians” do it; they will never see Heaven.

Those were His teachings; yet, Christianity still went ahead and widened their own path. Just like with Islam and Judaism, Christianity is divided. Men created different denominations like Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, Southern Baptist, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Scientists and many more.

Each denomination has its own set of rules governing them; some churches have combined into “Conventions”, which are governing-type bodies that set standards of practice nation-wide and internationally. They publish a lot about their beliefs, practices and goals. And although God told us that He does not like repetitious and public prayers, churches opt to still produce catechisms for members to recite and repeat, like the Apostle’s Creed.

The most widely used catechism belongs to the Catholic Church. A catechism is a summary, doctrine or manual written by Catholic elders and used instead of the Bible. Popes also issue edicts known as papal bulls (BS), or decrees. The Catholic Church is riddled with atrocities for torturing and killing Christians and others.

Like the Muslim clerics who feel the Koran is too hard for the layperson to understand, even though the Koran says the opposite, the Catholics believe the same about the Bible. In fact, at one time it was a crime to possess or read the Bible, punishable by imprisonment and death. And of course, the main reason was all about controlling the masses; and protecting their lucrative business of false religion, and hiding Bible Truth about themselves.

Catechisms are another form of “traditions of the elders” or men; again circumventing the Holy Book; in extreme behaviors and beliefs that are contrary to God’s Commands found in the Bible.

The Root Cause of Division: Listening to Lucifer.

Lucifer and Luciferians have infiltrated all religions using the same tactic: develop and promote doctrine written by man and inspired by Lucifer the Devil, which means “liar”. Next, they made their followers depend on and turn to these man-made “narratives, traditions and doctrines” instead of to the Holy Books, which set man’s clerics above God in governing the people.

Lucifer has led men – all men– away from the Holy Books given and inspired by God, for a reason – to divide and conquer.

It’s Time for Unity: The Religion of Truth.

We need to return to obeying only God’s instructions, given to us in the Holy Books. This means throwing out all other man-made doctrine – the Hadith, the Talmud, the Catechism – all of which has only served to divide the world, not unite it. And until we unite, it will only get worse, because Lucifer’s scheming and wars aren’t over.

It means going back to the original Books, not the ones further corrupted by man with their little additions, alterations, and deletions. For example, Meccan writers changed Isaac to Ishmael as Abraham’s sacrifice when the Koran says that Isaac was the “Good News”. Another example is the Book of Enoch/Idris and John’s third book of Revelation need to be put back in the Bible.

The [I AM] wants all of us to be on the same page – following His Religion of Truth.

He has given us the unifying answer with His King of kings’ Bible, which is available for free on-line reading. It is given to us as the last generation of souls, to resurrect our Beings. The King of kings’ Bible includes the Old Covenant, New Covenant and Holy Koran harmonized together and cross-referenced.

When Jesus Christ said that we must become like little children, He meant that we need to humble ourselves and be willing to start again from the Beginning and learn the Truth (Matt. 18:3-4), instead of the lies we have learned and believe.

This can be a very simple process.

Additional Reading:
The Holy Koran and Muslim Information
Apostle Paul’s Message
The Truth about Rabbis, Priests and Imams
How to Defeat The New Word Order (aka Synagogue of Satan)
The Illuminati and the Council of Foreign Relations One-World Government Conspiracy
The Way home or face The Fire

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Out of the frying pan into the fire. No thanks.
https://www.gotquestions.org/one-world-religion.html
 

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Before it gets ugly here i just say, it is easy to point out flaws, religions are man made, infiltrated etc...imperfect, like everything in our lives...But the only unity we have left is under antichrist/dajjal banner...
That which you mention (a false and forced so-called unity, under an oppressive antichrist/dajjal banner/NWO system of the Illuminati banksters) is not what this article is talking about, though. It is talking about finding a real, true unity between believers.

I for one feel that there should be no reason for a discussion about it to get ugly, because everyone today has problems. That should not be so hard to admit, as we all know we have things that we need to work on. And hopefully, we can somehow learn to get better at working on them, towards the real unity that only comes through realisation and acceptance of the Truth . The only real unity we can have as believers, is always found in the Truth.

We do not need unity, we are different and thats completely okay..We could use some more tolerance for sure, just not unity where all sides would be forced to part with their beliefs to some extent
Jesus prayed to God, that there might be unity between the believers, through the truth:

John 17:17 Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth.
17:18 As Thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the Truth.
17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe me through their word;
17:21 That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.
17:22 And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as We are One:
17:23 I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me. (Kofk)

I agree with you though about the statement, that more tolerance would be good. I don't see it though as having to part with any of our (true) beliefs, just in order to come together, as long as the beliefs that we hold are really the true ones.

Only, the beliefs that are held on to, that are found not be the truth, are the ones we all need to learn to let go of. It is those wrong beliefs that have caused the division, on all sides. We all need to unlearn those beliefs that are not truth and then learn to replace it with truth.

From the Truth comes the true unity and is wherein we will find the "common terms" that we should be seeking to have, between one another...
 
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Sura 3:64. Say: "O People of the Book (Bible)! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, lords and patrons other than God." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are "True in Faith" (bowing to God's Will).
 

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Out of the frying pan into the fire. No thanks.
https://www.gotquestions.org/one-world-religion.html
The "Great Harlot" that is described in Revelation 17, is the Vatican (Rome):
http://jahtruth.net./darth.htm

The article that was posted, has nothing to do with their plans for a one world (false) religion, though. It is simply about searching for and finding the actual truth from God/Allah Himself (rather than thinking we need men to explain it to us), as we are told to do throughout the Scriptures.

This is the description of the "Great Harlot" (the Vatican - Rome) found in Revelation:

Revelation 17
17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come here; I will show unto thee the Judgment of the great "Whore" that sitteth upon many "waters":
17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 And the woman was arrayed in PURPLE (bishops) and SCARLET (cardinals) colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY (2 Thess. 2:7), BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (her daughters) AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of her saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
17:7 And the angel said unto me, Why didst thou marvel? (Stop it!) I will tell thee the MYSTERY of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were NOT written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth (Rome).
 
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Doesn't the Quran deny the deity of Christ, his crucifixion and resurrection? You can't possibly follow the Bible and the Quran.
this is based on people's perceptions/interpretations of the scriptures
fact is we'll never entirely agree
now between muslims and christians, we both do believe in the resurrection of the death, the second coming of Jesus, Divine judgement etc...so whilst we all decide not to get along because of our religion differences, we should at least acknowledge that there is an actual ultimate truth concerning our differences that will, one day be accounted for and answered.

Meanwhile, what we can easily do is accept that we do have similar ideas in our religions and mutual respect for the succession of prophets who came throughout history.
 

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That which you mention (a false and forced so-called unity, under an oppressive antichrist/dajjal banner/NWO system of the Illuminati banksters) is not what this article is talking about, though. It is talking about finding a real, true unity between believers.
NWO unity will not be forced, people will accept it willingly...
And why do we need it again? unity?

I for one feel that there should be no reason for a discussion about it to get ugly, because everyone today has problems. That should not be so hard to admit, as we all know we have things that we need to work on. And hopefully, we can somehow learn to get better at working on them, towards the real unity that only comes through realisation and acceptance of the Truth . The only real unity we can have as believers, is always found in the Truth.
Experiences from previous versions of this forum, nevermind..
Yeah truth...what is it? Pointing out past mistakes and flaws mainstream religions has, doesn't reveal truth in any way...

John 17:17 Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth.
17:18 As Thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the Truth.
17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe me through their word;
17:21 That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.
17:22 And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as We are One:
17:23 I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me. (Kofk)
Looks better now?
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
 
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Yes, the Quran presents another gospel. Warning for doing so is found in Gal. 1:8-9.
Paul was not referring to a future scripture as 'another gospel'. The Quran never calls itself a gospel. Gospel=good news=the injeel..and the Quran clearly confirms the good news that was revealed through Jesus, nor does it claim to be a gospel.

Galatians 1
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

here's a discussion on the surrounding context of what Paul referred to
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/1655/how-can-we-understand-another-gospel-in-its-historical-context

so why are you purposely misinterpreting these words?





 

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How to Unite Muslims, Jews and Christians
(This article originally appeared on "Time to Think", 28 Jan)

Before disclosing a simple way to unify these peoples, a brief summary of their religious texts is needed.

First up: Islam.

Many Christians would assume Muslims use the Koran as a basis for their radical way of thinking and acting. They do not. They use another set of religious texts known as the Hadith; and each Islamic sect recognizes different ones. Hadiths are narratives written by their elders, that have become “Traditions” giving their followers a set of guidelines.

In Arabic, Islam means “Will of God” and Muslim means “True in Faith – Faithful”. The foundation of their instruction came through Prophet Muhammad; who received revelation from Allah, the Arabic word for “God”, through Archangel Gabriel. It is called the Koran, because it means “Recitation”. The Koran recognizes both the Torah and Gospel as originating from Allah/God. In fact, the Koran instructs Muslims to read, fulfill and obey God’s Covenant found in the Bible (Sura 5:8; 16:91) and obey Christ (Sura 43:61).

The Hadith or hadiths were originally written in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, centuries after Muhammad died. Muhammad was an “example”, an “imam”, of how to be God’s friend by listening to and obeying Him. Unfortunately, over time, men corrupted the teachings of Muhammad through their own written texts known as hadiths, which have been expounded on and interpreted by men through their generations. It is these hadiths that divided Islam; and false modern-day imams are the ones who incite radical behavior.

Because the Koran instructs Muslims to obey God’s Covenant, early Meccan leaders had to discredit the Bible and invent their own covenant, to protect their lucrative business tied to pilgrimages to their once heathen-city; thus, they intentionally made it impossible for anyone reading the Hadith to be able to understand the Koran and God’s simple Truth. They have persuaded their followers to believe that only religious clerics can correctly interpret the Koran; similar to what the Catholics said about priests and the Bible, long ago.

A radical example of Muslim’s circumventing what God Wills and what they do is Sharia. This doctrine is not in the Koran. Conveniently, it helps Saudi Arabia instill fear to control its population. Supposedly, it is opposed to human legislation, but ironically, that is exactly what Sharia is.

The Koran is not a difficult read; it’s pretty straightforward. Muslims can say they place the Koran above their Hadith; but their actions speak louder than their words. They are following the edicts of man-made writings; thus, they are following “traditions of men or the elders”, and not following God.

Next up: Judaism.

Right off the bat, many believe that Judaism is the religion of the Jews. Yet, the vast majority of today’s Jews are made up of gentile races that converted to Judaism. And Judaism is a religion that does not refer to the Israelite Tribe of Judah, in the sense that people believe it does. Judaism is a way of life that encompasses their religion, philosophy and culture; and most of them practice what is written in the Talmud, and many are actually atheists. The Talmud is a collection of writings, or instructions, made up of over 60 books; and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis. The Talmud – the central text in Rabbinic Judaism – is the basis for all codes of Jewish legislation, and is widely quoted in rabbinic literature.

Just like in Islam, Judaism is made up of divisions such as Orthodox, Conservative and Reform. But before all this division, the actual tribe of Judah lived in Jerusalem; and they originally read and practiced The Torah; which was given to Moses by God on Mount Sinai. The Torah includes the first five books of the Bible – Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. After the fall of the First Temple, most of Judah was enslaved in Babylon; and when Jerusalem was vacated, people from neighboring Edom moved in.

Eventually, practicing The Torah was replaced by practicing the Talmud; and by the time Jesus showed up in the Holy Lands, Edomite Gentiles who converted to Judaism used their man-made Talmud to remain in power. These are the clerics Jesus came up against; and they didn’t want to lose their control and wealth.

Their fraudulent practice was made clear by Jesus when they asked Him why His disciples transgressed the Tradition of the Elders (Matt. 15:2-9). They were referring to the Talmud. Jesus asked the rabbis why they transgressed the Commandment of God by their Tradition.

Jesus informed them that they had already made the Commandments of God of none effect in governing the people with the Talmud instead of The Torah. Jesus also had a clear message for them – return to God’s Law. He was not there to destroy God’s Law but to fulfill, or fully preach, it (Matt. 5:17-20). He was there to destroy their man-made legislation – the Talmud.

In essence, Jews that practice the Talmud are radicals. The Talmud instructs them to do very unGodly things to others; and some of these traditions made it into the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


Last up: Christianity.


The easy path – not really! Most Christians believe that if someone simply accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior, he secures his ticket to heaven. The process is usually done by saying one “accepts Jesus” as his Lord, followed by a baptism with water. There’s a big flaw to this line of thinking. The New Testament of Jesus – The Gospels – did not widen the gate to Heaven. Jesus said The Way is strait and narrow that leads to Life eternal; and broad is the path that leads to destruction (Matt. 7:13-14).

Christians were given both the Old Testament and the New Testament in the Holy Bible for a reason. The Old Testament contains The Torah; which outlines God’s Law, Commandments, Judgements and Statutes that Jesus Christ instructed followers to obey. Again, Jesus did not come to abolish God’s Law, but to preach it. The only practice in the Old Testament that was abolished was animal substitute sacrifice, because He replaced it with “Self”-sacrifice.

He didn’t go through all that anguish for so-called Christians to live exactly how they selfishly want; thinking at the end of the day that they are “already” forgiven. He set an example – an example to be Christ-like in words, thoughts, and actions; and it can prove to be difficult, and requires discipline. This discipline was the new animal sacrifice – crucifying one’s own selfish nature. And unless “Christians” do it; they will never see Heaven.

Those were His teachings; yet, Christianity still went ahead and widened their own path. Just like with Islam and Judaism, Christianity is divided. Men created different denominations like Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, Southern Baptist, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Scientists and many more.

Each denomination has its own set of rules governing them; some churches have combined into “Conventions”, which are governing-type bodies that set standards of practice nation-wide and internationally. They publish a lot about their beliefs, practices and goals. And although God told us that He does not like repetitious and public prayers, churches opt to still produce catechisms for members to recite and repeat, like the Apostle’s Creed.

The most widely used catechism belongs to the Catholic Church. A catechism is a summary, doctrine or manual written by Catholic elders and used instead of the Bible. Popes also issue edicts known as papal bulls (BS), or decrees. The Catholic Church is riddled with atrocities for torturing and killing Christians and others.

Like the Muslim clerics who feel the Koran is too hard for the layperson to understand, even though the Koran says the opposite, the Catholics believe the same about the Bible. In fact, at one time it was a crime to possess or read the Bible, punishable by imprisonment and death. And of course, the main reason was all about controlling the masses; and protecting their lucrative business of false religion, and hiding Bible Truth about themselves.

Catechisms are another form of “traditions of the elders” or men; again circumventing the Holy Book; in extreme behaviors and beliefs that are contrary to God’s Commands found in the Bible.

The Root Cause of Division: Listening to Lucifer.

Lucifer and Luciferians have infiltrated all religions using the same tactic: develop and promote doctrine written by man and inspired by Lucifer the Devil, which means “liar”. Next, they made their followers depend on and turn to these man-made “narratives, traditions and doctrines” instead of to the Holy Books, which set man’s clerics above God in governing the people.

Lucifer has led men – all men– away from the Holy Books given and inspired by God, for a reason – to divide and conquer.

It’s Time for Unity: The Religion of Truth.

We need to return to obeying only God’s instructions, given to us in the Holy Books. This means throwing out all other man-made doctrine – the Hadith, the Talmud, the Catechism – all of which has only served to divide the world, not unite it. And until we unite, it will only get worse, because Lucifer’s scheming and wars aren’t over.

It means going back to the original Books, not the ones further corrupted by man with their little additions, alterations, and deletions. For example, Meccan writers changed Isaac to Ishmael as Abraham’s sacrifice when the Koran says that Isaac was the “Good News”. Another example is the Book of Enoch/Idris and John’s third book of Revelation need to be put back in the Bible.

The [I AM] wants all of us to be on the same page – following His Religion of Truth.

He has given us the unifying answer with His King of kings’ Bible, which is available for free on-line reading. It is given to us as the last generation of souls, to resurrect our Beings. The King of kings’ Bible includes the Old Covenant, New Covenant and Holy Koran harmonized together and cross-referenced.

When Jesus Christ said that we must become like little children, He meant that we need to humble ourselves and be willing to start again from the Beginning and learn the Truth (Matt. 18:3-4), instead of the lies we have learned and believe.

This can be a very simple process.

Additional Reading:
The Holy Koran and Muslim Information
Apostle Paul’s Message
The Truth about Rabbis, Priests and Imams
How to Defeat The New Word Order (aka Synagogue of Satan)
The Illuminati and the Council of Foreign Relations One-World Government Conspiracy
The Way home or face The Fire

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I copied and save your article! Good to consolidate the Western religions . Next is uniting East and West!
 
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I copied and save your article! Good to consolidate the Western religions . Next is uniting East and West!

I can't say a lot about his thoughts on the other religions, but he speaks a lot of nonsense on islam.
The biggest problem today is that people connect to islam of the 7th century and then to premodern and modern times...
but forget the other 12 centuries inbetween where so much knowledge was expanded on by muslims.

For example, just jalaluddin rumi's body of work could form an entire religion itself..and he was just one of many.

Saying 'quran or hadith' is dumb...just as dumb as those who are 'only the Quran and hadith'.

put it this way, if i had to understand the Quran i would want as many possible sources of information as possible to understand it.
I don't believe in just eliminating the body of work available, but expanding on it.
likewise im against people who try to restrict the expansion of knowlege ie like those who say 'anything outside of Quran and hadith is wrong'.
the Quran instructs us to learn knowledge, to understand God's creation.

one of the best things in the hadith are the prophecies...
now even if they were not authentic narrations, the mere fact that hundreds of millions believe in those prophecies means they have the power to shape the world...and have done and will do.
you cannot seperate islam from the hadiths anymore....
 
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One way to unite them is to get all their faiths wrong at the same time and publish an article about it. :)
seeing paul newman in your avi just reminded me that george groves is fighting in a few hours...i totally forgot. Basically groves resembles young paul newman.
the only reason I support groves though is because he has beef with james degale
and the only reason i don't like james degale is because he is a carbon copy of the character huseni mershah in Oz, who was a twat.
 

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I can't say a lot about his thoughts on the other religions, but he speaks a lot of nonsense on islam.
The biggest problem today is that people connect to islam of the 7th century and then to premodern and modern times...
but forget the other 12 centuries inbetween where so much knowledge was expanded on by muslims.

For example, just jalaluddin rumi's body of work could form an entire religion itself..and he was just one of many.

Saying 'quran or hadith' is dumb...just as dumb as those who are 'only the Quran and hadith'.

put it this way, if i had to understand the Quran i would want as many possible sources of information as possible to understand it.
I don't believe in just eliminating the body of work available, but expanding on it.
likewise im against people who try to restrict the expansion of knowlege ie like those who say 'anything outside of Quran and hadith is wrong'.
the Quran instructs us to learn knowledge, to understand God's creation.

one of the best things in the hadith are the prophecies...
now even if they were not authentic narrations, the mere fact that hundreds of millions believe in those prophecies means they have the power to shape the world...and have done and will do.
you cannot seperate islam from the hadiths anymore....
Thanks for that.
 

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I copied and save your article! Good to consolidate the Western religions . Next is uniting East and West!
From whose doctrine come this unification movement, I wonder?
Paul was not referring to a future scripture as 'another gospel'. The Quran never calls itself a gospel. Gospel=good news=the injeel..and the Quran clearly confirms the good news that was revealed through Jesus, nor does it claim to be a gospel.

Galatians 1
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

here's a discussion on the surrounding context of what Paul referred to
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/1655/how-can-we-understand-another-gospel-in-its-historical-context

so why are you purposely misinterpreting these words?
You are right, the Quran is not the gospel, but has changed the gospel of Christ as it denies His death, burial, and resurrection, among other inaccuracies surrounding Christ found within its writings.
It contains another gospel; hence, it is called accursed by Paul.
 

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From whose doctrine come this unification movement, I wonder?

You are right, the Quran is not the gospel, but has changed the gospel of Christ as it denies His death, burial, and resurrection, among other inaccuracies surrounding Christ found within its writings.
It contains another gospel; hence, it is called accursed by Paul.
Boy, you sure know a lot about that stuff. I'll look you up when I need references.
 

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You sound familiar to me...I wonder if you and I have interacted previously...:cool:
 
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