Stop it Red Sky. I am losing respect for you after every post. You are clearly twisting the scripture and forcing it to mean what you want it to mean. Classic scripture twisting. No one can read that chapter in context and think it means what you are saying. You're wrong.
The interpretation I explained is the correct interpretation of John 15.
Hi Scott,
Over the years, and on many topics I have enjoyed Bible study, sometimes with people who hold strong opposing views. I decided early on to maintain an attitude of personal respect towards those who take different interpretations to me....
If someone living in the mid-west looking for the best beaches were to set off to New York in a car they would consume time an effort taking a journey that put them further away from the golden sand of the West Coast... If I was a hitchiker in a car with that person, my dilemma would be to say something to the driver and risk his wrath or quietly stay in the car and chat about other things instead.
I had no intention of offending you Scott, and as this is your thread on the Image of the Beast, discussion of eternal security would be better separated off to it's own thread. I think this would be helpful anyway as it is a detailed and emotive subject, and one which requires a great deal of care when dealing with brothers and sisters in the Lord.
I know it must feel frustrating to you when others hold different views but I would urge you to take care when judging the quality of another believer's spirituality, and do what you can to separate that out from discussion. We are each accountable to our own master, after all.
If I have personally judged or offended you I hope you will forgive me. As far as this thread is concerned, I agree, back to the topic...