How do Christians reconcile belief in God and Prophets with the Bible?

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How do Christians reconcile belief in God and Prophets, while taking the Bible as their authority?

This is another question I want to see answered with actual honesty and not self-righteous elitism.


edit: Four pages in and the OP here still hasn't been answered.
 





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There is nothing to reconcile, the prophecies and teachings of the Prophets and the Gospel as taught by Jesus Christ and his early disciples are in the Bible, true Christians only refer to the Bible as the sole authority when it comes to religion and faith.
 





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How do Christians reconcile belief in God and Prophets, while taking the Bible as their authority?

This is another question I want to see answered with actual honesty and not self-righteous elitism.
As a Christian who is not indoctrinated by the church.. it is pretty self explanatory. Even in Islam you believe that Yeshua (Jesus) is the only risen one who comes back on the day of judgement to teach everyone what all of the holy prophets say. He says this too in gospels.
 





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What is a prophet according to Christians?
A prophet is a messenger of God. Someone who reveals God’s word. The test of a prophet is total agreement with the established word of God, and one hundred percent accuracy in prophetic utterance.

Beloved, do not believe every Spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world (1 John 4:1).
 





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A prophet is a messenger of God. Someone who reveals God’s word. The test of a prophet is total agreement with the established writings of fallible men, and one hundred percent accuracy in prophetic utterance.

Beloved, do not believe every Spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world (1 John 4:1).
The First Epistle of John, is not the "word of God", it's a letter attributed to a man named "John".
 





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Someone who reveals God’s word. The test of a prophet is total agreement with the established word of God, and one hundred percent accuracy in prophetic utterance.
So would you then agree with Jews that Jesus was in fact a false-prophet? after all, no Prophet before Jesus (according to both the OT and NT) taught any trinity doctrine and certainly didn't teach that God incarnated into Man (as the Pagans taught) or that even such an idea was ever categorically applicable to the True God in the first place.
 





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The First Epistle of John, is not the "word of God", it's a letter attributed to a man named "John".
2 Peter 1

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
 





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So would you then agree with Jews that Jesus was in fact a false-prophet? after all, no Prophet before Jesus (according to both the OT and NT) taught any trinity doctrine and certainly didn't teach that God incarnated into Man (as the Pagans taught) or that even such an idea was ever categorically applicable to the True God in the first place.
Jesus didn’t teach anything that contradicts the word of God.
 





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2 Peter 1

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
And the 2nd Epistle of Peter is not "word of God" either, unless you believe the infamous man known as "Paul" was another incarnation of God (which would in fact make a more interesting kind of Christianity).
 





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Jesus didn’t teach anything that contradicts the word of God.
I do agree with this, it is people after Jesus that subverted his teachings and deified him into an idol and heretical "incarnation of God".

However it is a fact that Jews definitely see Jesus as the fulfillment of Deuteronomy 13:6
"As for that prophet or dream-diviner, he shall be put to death; for he urged disloyalty to the LORD your God—who freed you from the land of Egypt and who redeemed you from the house of bondage—to make you stray from the path that the LORD your God commanded you to follow. Thus you will sweep out evil from your midst."
 





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And the 2nd Epistle of Peter is not "word of God" either, unless you believe the infamous man known as "Paul" was another incarnation of God (which would in fact make a more interesting kind of Christianity).
You’re not participating in this discussion in good faith. You asked how we reconcile prophets with the word of God, and you asked what a prophet is. Now you’re just denying the word of God for the sake of denying it, and that’s not really discussing.
 





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You’re not participating in this discussion in good faith.
I am, you're the one quoting a bunch of letters that people wrote and claiming it to be 'word of god'.

You asked how we reconcile prophets with the word of God
I asked how you reconcile belief in both God and the Prophets WITH belief in the Bible.

and you asked what a prophet is.
No, that was @Haich

Now you’re just denying the "word of God" for the sake of denying it, and that’s not really discussing.
Are you being facetious by calling these Epistles "word of God", or just being hyperbolic to express how infatuated you are with those letters?
It stands to categorical fact that the Bible itself contains no direct revelation of God and is largely written by anonymous authors. The authors that aren't anonymous also happen to be polemicists trying to promote the spread of early Christianity.

You've done nothing to prove it to be "word of God" and that's especially a difficult task nonetheless when the Bible isn't even written as so. You're not in actual agreement with the text to be claiming so. Most of the verses you Christians always quote are also always so vague and could be referring to anything, they are certainly never specifically referring to the 66 book compilation of assorted texts (both anonymous and semi-known, referred to as "The Bible"), that stands to reason.

In order to attempt to persuade me, you have to lie about the above even when your better knowledge tells you that you're making false claims asserted through only the arrogance of Judeo-Christian self-superiority through fallacious appeal-to-chronology (which itself is a dangerous fallacy to pull when Atheists and pagans will just claim the entire Abrahamic tradition is just the perversion of the Mesopotamian/Sumerian/Babylonian pagan tradition)
 





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Thanks for defining a prophet.


Matthew 21:11
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The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee."

So how could Jesus be God and prophet? Your God was a prophet? Am I right in saying this?

Also:

Deuteronomy 18:15
"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him"

Who is this referring to?
 





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There is a God and God has a Book.

It's called the Bible... and you should study it if you want to know about God.
 





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The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee."

So how could Jesus be God and prophet? Your God was a prophet? Am I right in saying this?
If Jesus Christ can be God and man, he can certainly be God and prophet. Jesus Christ the man is the ultimate prophet of God. During his time on earth, he performed miracles and preached the word of God. That's textbook prophet behaviour. :)

Deuteronomy 18:15
"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him"

Who is this referring to?
It's referring to Jesus Christ. The full prophecy in Deuteronomy 18 is about a coming prophet -- a Hebrew man, as Moses was -- who would preach the word of God. Anyone who didn't listen to this prophet would die, and the passage has always been regarded as a reference to the Messiah.

The Jewish scribes and Pharisees rejected Jesus as the son of God for the same reason that you do. They wouldn't believe that he was a man who was also God.

But Peter the apostle knew who and what the Messiah was, and he preached from Deuteronomy 18 at the Temple. He said:

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.