How And Why Does Israel Have So Much Power?

[Tidal]

If Hamas are using people as human shields of course there'll be civilian casualties!

More rhetoric.
why not just give up? The only people that you’ll manage to disinform are the occasional stragglers that may wander into the forum. You’re certainly not fooling anyone that regularly posts.

Wise up mate, Hamas deliberately fire missiles from Gaza city so that when Israel retaliates they'll be able to say "Look, Israel is killing our innocent civilians" and get sympathy from suckers around the world..

 

[Tidal]

Why don't you pop off back to Mission4today.....it looks.like the place is really struggling without you.
Sorry for the de-rail.....just trying to de-clown the thread.

You can't argue with the maths mate, my sensational posts at M4T have had a total of over 11 million views so far, THAT'S BUZZING..

PS- and before that I was a mod at The Few Good Men where my awesome posting skills were also off the scale, live with it..

 

[lightseeker]

Israel Commits War Crimes Against Palestinians

 

[Daze]

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I don't know whats worse, the spawn of satan or those who defend them.

May Allah (awj) raise them altogether on the day or regret.

 

[vancityeagle]

I think the overton window has seen a major shift, in terms of public awareness and even main stream media coverage of the Arab/Israeli conflict.

To be honest I started to see this back in the 2014 war, where you started to see sympathy towards Palestinians and condemnation of Israel even back then.

Its even more now with the social media era, we are seeing politicians, celebrities, and sports players having a say.

Today Paul Pogba held up the Palestinian flag after a Manchester United soccer match.

I've been watching MSM coverage and I am very surprised that certain hosts on MSNBC have called Israel "apartheid" "war crimes" and talked about illegal settlements. This is definately a step forward.

Here is Ali Velshi on MSNBC shocking how far he goes against Israel. Mehdi Hassan who also appears on MSNBC has done some great commentary. Later on this video is Brian Stelter of CNN who does apology for Israel, but I have seen other CNN hosts criticize Israel,

Fox News is just Zionist propaganda through and through, there hasn't seemed to be any progress on this network from what I have seen.

more mainstream positive coverage

 

[DesertRose]

 

[pescatarian09]

From Tarek Cherkaoui

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1392804701217902592

The all-out Israeli offensive in Gaza is the 4th one (2008, 2012, 2014). There is a big gap between the two camps: Israel is one of the strongest militaries in the region, while the Gazan resistance, encircled in a 365-square-km strip, is waging asymmetric warfare.

(1) As in the previous rounds, Tsahal aims to break the Gazans’ resolve (‘mowing the grass strategy’) to teach the Palestinians a painful lesson to become more ‘amenable’ at the negotiation table.

(2) Netanyahu aims to achieve tactical gains that ensure his political survival. Destroying high-value military targets & killing high ranked leaders in Gaza is top priority. It is unlikely, though, that Netanyahu risks a long war or a large land invasion.

(3) Previous wars, and especially 2014, revealed considerable Israeli weaknesses. A staunch resistance in Gaza managed to inflict serious damage to the Israeli infantry. 2 Israeli soldiers (Hadar Golden and Shaul Aaron) are still held in Gaza since 2014.

(4) The Gazan resistance, despite a choking blockade from Israel, Egypt, and the PA, grew in strength. The numbers, reach, and payload of Gazan missiles (2000 rockets in 3 days) has surprised many observers. While their military value is minimal, their psychological effect is not.

(5) The economic impact [on Israel] is substantial: losses amount to $912 m so far. Israeli strategists seem taken aback by the capacity of the resistance of piercing through the Iron Dom defence umbrella & striking Israeli targets within a 150 km radius.

(6) Israel lost the initiative. The Gazan resistance dictated the tempo. Conversely, Israeli strategists bet that the missile arsenal will soon be depleted. It remains to be seen whether the intelligence available is accurate.

(7) Netanyahu dealt with the Palestinians in a piecemeal manner (West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, etc.), while avoiding the implementation of signed peace agreements & relying on irrelevant Arab governments (e.g., UAE) has backfired badly.

(8) Netanyahu's ‘civil war’ talk is inflaming the situation further, uniting Palestinians while Lynching mobs annihilated any reputation left of Israel’s democracy. Asymmetric warfare is about scoring political points. For now, the Gazan resistance seems to be leading the score.

 

[pescatarian09]

From Tarek Cherkaoui

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1392804701217902592

The all-out Israeli offensive in Gaza is the 4th one (2008, 2012, 2014). There is a big gap between the two camps: Israel is one of the strongest militaries in the region, while the Gazan resistance, encircled in a 365-square-km strip, is waging asymmetric warfare.

(1) As in the previous rounds, Tsahal aims to break the Gazans’ resolve (‘mowing the grass strategy’) to teach the Palestinians a painful lesson to become more ‘amenable’ at the negotiation table.

(2) Netanyahu aims to achieve tactical gains that ensure his political survival. Destroying high-value military targets & killing high ranked leaders in Gaza is top priority. It is unlikely, though, that Netanyahu risks a long war or a large land invasion.

(3) Previous wars, and especially 2014, revealed considerable Israeli weaknesses. A staunch resistance in Gaza managed to inflict serious damage to the Israeli infantry. 2 Israeli soldiers (Hadar Golden and Shaul Aaron) are still held in Gaza since 2014.

(4) The Gazan resistance, despite a choking blockade from Israel, Egypt, and the PA, grew in strength. The numbers, reach, and payload of Gazan missiles (2000 rockets in 3 days) has surprised many observers. While their military value is minimal, their psychological effect is not.

(5) The economic impact [on Israel] is substantial: losses amount to $912 m so far. Israeli strategists seem taken aback by the capacity of the resistance of piercing through the Iron Dom defence umbrella & striking Israeli targets within a 150 km radius.

(6) Israel lost the initiative. The Gazan resistance dictated the tempo. Conversely, Israeli strategists bet that the missile arsenal will soon be depleted. It remains to be seen whether the intelligence available is accurate.

(7) Netanyahu dealt with the Palestinians in a piecemeal manner (West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, etc.), while avoiding the implementation of signed peace agreements & relying on irrelevant Arab governments (e.g., UAE) has backfired badly.

(8) Netanyahu's ‘civil war’ talk is inflaming the situation further, uniting Palestinians while Lynching mobs annihilated any reputation left of Israel’s democracy. Asymmetric warfare is about scoring political points. For now, the Gazan resistance seems to be leading the score.

So Israel likes to put on the image of being a united force that is choking the Palestinian resistance, but reading the above, how true is that?

They do not fight you, even assembled together, but in fortified towns, or from behind the walls. Their quarrelling between themselves is severe. You think that they are united, while their hearts are divided. That is because they are a people who have no sense.

Quran 59:14

 

[DavidSon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394894094867050498

 

[pescatarian09]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394894094867050498

Thank you for sharing the article. I learnt a lot.

The Israeli army has not achieved any significant military objective in the first week of this war — other than to murder and maim innocent civilians, flatten high-rise buildings including media centres, and kill a couple of Hamas and Islamic Jihad field commanders. It has failed to reach the two groups’ leaders and joint operation rooms, or their missile platforms and factories and their operators. Instead, it lashed out against those leaders’ family homes in residential areas – reflecting both its frustration and the failure, yet again, of its much-vaunted intelligence.

Meanwhile, daily life in Israel has been paralysed. Its covid-hit economy faces the prospect of further capital flight, as happened during previous Palestinian uprisings, and thousands of dual-national Israelis are again making plans to return to their countries of origin.

Israel’s threat to mount a ground invasion of the Gaza Strip is bluster. Going in might be relatively easy, but staying in or getting out again would be extremely difficult and massively costly.

The Palestinian resistance groups will not agree simply to ‘restore calm’ so that the occupation, blockade and oppression can continue in peace and quiet. Any cease-fire will have to be on their terms and timing. Claims that Israel has been resisting US efforts to achieve a cease-fire are eyewash. Under the table, they have been pressing their allies in Egypt, Qatar and Jordan hard, and offering them inducements, to broker a truce.

Their problem is that their nightmare has come true: Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, Jerusalem, the 1948 areas, and the diaspora rising up simultaneously against their oppression and dispossession, with the support of countless millions of people in the Arab world and globally. This just months after the US and Israel, and their Western and Arab clients, tried to persuade the world that the Palestinians and their cause were dead and buried and need only concede final defeat to an invincible Israel.

Israel’s failure in Gaza - رأي اليوم

Against the odds, the Palestinians are winning this first round in the next stage of their long struggle By Abdel Bari Atwan The ability of Palestinian resistance groups in the Gaza Strip to continue launching missiles against Israeli cities and settlements for a second week is in itself a...

www.raialyoum.com

 

[pescatarian09]

Sky News are surprisingly reporting a lot of valuable stuff

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394228453013082113

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394731857099452419

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394733367778709506

 

[DavidSon]

Thank you for sharing the article. I learnt a lot.

The Israeli army has not achieved any significant military objective in the first week of this war — other than to murder and maim innocent civilians, flatten high-rise buildings including media centres, and kill a couple of Hamas and Islamic Jihad field commanders. It has failed to reach the two groups’ leaders and joint operation rooms, or their missile platforms and factories and their operators. Instead, it lashed out against those leaders’ family homes in residential areas – reflecting both its frustration and the failure, yet again, of its much-vaunted intelligence.

Meanwhile, daily life in Israel has been paralysed. Its covid-hit economy faces the prospect of further capital flight, as happened during previous Palestinian uprisings, and thousands of dual-national Israelis are again making plans to return to their countries of origin.

Israel’s threat to mount a ground invasion of the Gaza Strip is bluster. Going in might be relatively easy, but staying in or getting out again would be extremely difficult and massively costly.

The Palestinian resistance groups will not agree simply to ‘restore calm’ so that the occupation, blockade and oppression can continue in peace and quiet. Any cease-fire will have to be on their terms and timing. Claims that Israel has been resisting US efforts to achieve a cease-fire are eyewash. Under the table, they have been pressing their allies in Egypt, Qatar and Jordan hard, and offering them inducements, to broker a truce.

Their problem is that their nightmare has come true: Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, Jerusalem, the 1948 areas, and the diaspora rising up simultaneously against their oppression and dispossession, with the support of countless millions of people in the Arab world and globally. This just months after the US and Israel, and their Western and Arab clients, tried to persuade the world that the Palestinians and their cause were dead and buried and need only concede final defeat to an invincible Israel.

Israel’s failure in Gaza - رأي اليوم

Against the odds, the Palestinians are winning this first round in the next stage of their long struggle By Abdel Bari Atwan The ability of Palestinian resistance groups in the Gaza Strip to continue launching missiles against Israeli cities and settlements for a second week is in itself a...

www.raialyoum.com

Credit to Max Blumenthal. He's been heavily engaged the last weeks, writing and joining programs to educate others about the Palestinian Resistance. He went to Gaza after 2014 and filmed the documentary "Killing Gaza"- he knows what he's talking about.

Anyways yes the article, it's encouraging to consider the flip side of the narrative! The Israeli attacks are sickening but hopefully they can be utilized for support in the long (over 70 year) battle for Palestinian justice.

 

[pescatarian09]

Credit to Max Blumenthal. He's been heavily engaged the last weeks, writing and joining programs to educate others about the Palestinian Resistance. He went to Gaza after 2014 and filmed the documentary "Killing Gaza"- he knows what he's talking about.

Anyways yes the article, it's encouraging to consider the flip side of the narrative! The Israeli attacks are sickening but hopefully they can be utilized for support in the long (over 70 year) battle for Palestinian justice.

Thanks, I'll be sure to check out his work.

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[AmazingGrace]

No offense guys and gals, but why don't you create a separate thread on Palestine and what's happening there? It is important to not be silent about any crime against humanity, but it's out of topic of this thread...

 

[pescatarian09]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394932697320071171

Israeli warships attacking Gaza.

 

[pescatarian09]

No offense guys and gals, but why don't you create a separate thread on Palestine and what's happening there? It is important to not be silent about any crime against humanity, but it's out of topic of this thread...

No, because the very existence of Israel is inextricably tied to its criminal incursions against the Palestinians. The state of Israel and its crimes against Palestinians cannot be separated from one another.

They took their land, remember? The land wasn't just an empty plot in the middle of the desert before 1948.

Israel's power is the reason it is able to carry out these crimes. It has the backing of the US, UK, and most first-world governmental organizations.

 

[pescatarian09]

Snapchat stories in Tel Aviv vs in Gaza.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394733166011637762

 

[AmazingGrace]

No, because the very existence of Israel is inextricably tied to its criminal incursions against the Palestinians. The state of Israel and its crimes against Palestinians cannot be separated from one another.

Well no one is preventing you to call your new thread "Israel's crimes against Palestinians", you would still have it nicely together.

The name of this thread is "HOW and WHY does Israel have so much power?" Not how Israel is misusing it's power...

 

[pescatarian09]

no one is preventing you to call your new thread "Israel's crimes against Palestinians", you would still have it nicely together.

No thanks.

 

[AmazingGrace]

No thanks.

Well if owern of this thread doesn't care, derail however you wish