How And Why Does Israel Have So Much Power?

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I’m sure if they weren’t trying to hurt Israeli’s they could fish..but sine they won’t stop..they have to be stopped.
That's not what documented events claim if you knew the plight of the fishermen in Gaza as my Jewish friends informed of this nearly a decade ago. In any event, I'm not really interested in discussing this with you as all of your posts, as per usual, seemed completely uninformed about what's been going on in that region.

Enjoy spreading your zionist propaganda.
 






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Lisa

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Its absolutely unfathomable how people could see things in that way.

It would be like I go into my neighbors house, bring in all my stuff, start violently attacking them, and then live there beside them while they are under my control and threats of violence. And then I cry about being the victim, and how hard it is to live with them, and how lucky they are that I'm so good to them, when I kill some of their family members I talk to the world about how dangerous they were.

If any zio shill wants to tell me how it's any different than this I'd like to hear.
Except that’s not what happened...the Jews who went through the most atrocious stuff in WWII were given that land when the british remade the Middle East. Funnily enough it also happens to be the land that God gave them forever. They were able to keep hold of that land even when arab/muslim armies came against it and were outnumbered.

All they have wanted to do was live there in peace and the palestinians won’t allow it with a peace treaty and have been terrorists ever since to the Jews. The Jews have signed on to many peace treaties where Palestinians haven’t...who are the aggressors then?
 






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That's not what documented events claim if you knew the plight of the fishermen in Gaza as my Jewish friends informed of this nearly a decade ago. In any event, I'm not really interested in discussing this with you as all of your posts, as per usual, seemed completely uninformed about what's been going on that region.

Enjoy spreading your zionist propaganda.
The article I posted said that the Jews felt they needed to limit them because of their constant attacks. Perhaps if they stopped attacking Israel all the time..they would be able to have the freedoms they think they are fighting for?
 






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Except that’s not what happened...the Jews who went through the most atrocious stuff in WWII were given that land when the british remade the Middle East. Funnily enough it also happens to be the land that God gave them forever. They were able to keep hold of that land even when arab/muslim armies came against it and were outnumbered.

All they have wanted to do was live there in peace and the palestinians won’t allow it with a peace treaty and have been terrorists ever since to the Jews. The Jews have signed on to many peace treaties where Palestinians haven’t...who are the aggressors then?
Explain that to Rabbi Dovid Weiss!!

“Our name, our identity, has been hijacked by an evil, vile, selfish movement that is purely political and ungodly, and to try to get legitimacy, they use our identity, Judaism, the appearance of godliness, to intimidate others, to take away lands from other people, and to oppress them. It is important that we tell the world, that unfortunately, you are making a grand mistake. You should know that these people who are speaking in the name of the Jews, have not only not been a confection for the Jewish people, but they are the worst factor of exacerbating anti-semitism. Jews have been living together with Christians and Muslims for hundreds of years in every Arab country. Until the zionists, there wasn't this ingrained hate for the jewish people. We were all able to coexist without any human rights groups. So what changed that now, Jews cant live in Muslim and Arab countries?

"This relatively new movement, Zionism, that started not much more than 100 years ago, and since has been around, we have had contention, strive, misery, bloodshed, and suffering, so what is the problem? Is it our religion? No, Jews and muslims lived together in peace up until recently. What changed is Zionism. Zionism is a political movement that was created by non religious Jews that wanted to change our identity from a religious identity to a national identity. Their goal was to take God completely out of the equation, to ensnare the religious jews and the evangelical christians, they pretended that theirs was a godly cause to take all the jews out of exile, but the Jews and rabbis around the world stood up to them and said “are you crazy? God has scattered us not because of our physical weakness but because of our sins.

"So the solution isn't a physical one of going back and taking up arms to win the lands. The solution is a metaphysical one, where God takes the people who have learned to live with peace in their hearts and restores them, and until he does that, we are expressly under oath not to return en masse to Israel, but to be loyal citizens in whatever nation we are living. This effort to build a political entity in Israel is simply against the words of God. It is rebellion against him to return to the lands of Palestine, even if the lands had been completely uninhabited. But given that this return was to a land that was already inhabited by a people, this rebellion against God became compounded by stealing lands and oppressing the people that already lived there. How can we remain silent when the name of God and Judaism is being profaned and sullied by these people. We pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantlement for this evil and sinister state that has brought about so much death and suffering, namely Israel.
Rabbi Dovid Weiss
 






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Explain that to Rabbi Dovid Weiss!!

“Our name, our identity, has been hijacked by an evil, vile, selfish movement that is purely political and ungodly, and to try to get legitimacy, they use our identity, Judaism, the appearance of godliness, to intimidate others, to take away lands from other people, and to oppress them. It is important that we tell the world, that unfortunately, you are making a grand mistake. You should know that these people who are speaking in the name of the Jews, have not only not been a confection for the Jewish people, but they are the worst factor of exacerbating anti-semitism. Jews have been living together with Christians and Muslims for hundreds of years in every Arab country. Until the zionists, there wasn't this ingrained hate for the jewish people. We were all able to coexist without any human rights groups. So what changed that now, Jews cant live in Muslim and Arab countries?

"This relatively new movement, Zionism, that started not much more than 100 years ago, and since has been around, we have had contention, strive, misery, bloodshed, and suffering, so what is the problem? Is it our religion? No, Jews and muslims lived together in peace up until recently. What changed is Zionism. Zionism is a political movement that was created by non religious Jews that wanted to change our identity from a religious identity to a national identity. Their goal was to take God completely out of the equation, to ensnare the religious jews and the evangelical christians, they pretended that theirs was a godly cause to take all the jews out of exile, but the Jews and rabbis around the world stood up to them and said “are you crazy? God has scattered us not because of our physical weakness but because of our sins.

"So the solution isn't a physical one of going back and taking up arms to win the lands. The solution is a metaphysical one, where God takes the people who have learned to live with peace in their hearts and restores them, and until he does that, we are expressly under oath not to return en masse to Israel, but to be loyal citizens in whatever nation we are living. This effort to build a political entity in Israel is simply against the words of God. It is rebellion against him to return to the lands of Palestine, even if the lands had been completely uninhabited. But given that this return was to a land that was already inhabited by a people, this rebellion against God became compounded by stealing lands and oppressing the people that already lived there. How can we remain silent when the name of God and Judaism is being profaned and sullied by these people. We pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantlement for this evil and sinister state that has brought about so much death and suffering, namely Israel.
Rabbi Dovid Weiss
Sure..they have their own cultural haters too. Doesn’t mean he’s right.
 






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Sure sounds right to me compared to your boomer propoganda that is continually proven factually wrong
There are two sides to an issue..I see where Israel has tried but haven’t seen that the other side has..but continues its terroristic threats. Again, I think Israel has great patience with its enemies within.
 






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The middle east was never Britain's to give to anyone and the Zionists colonisation of Palestine had nothing to do with the Holocaust
That’s strange..as that is what happened.

It happened after the Holocaust..so...
 






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That’s strange..as that is what happened.

It happened after the Holocaust..so...

Good grief! The Balfour declaration was in 1917, Lisa, and the Middle East was never Britain's to give to anyone. What is the problem that you're not understanding that?
 






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Good grief! The Balfour declaration was in 1917, Lisa, and the Middle East was never Britain's to give to anyone. What is the problem that you're not understanding that?
Apparently it was theirs to decide because that’s what happened...that’s why Israel is there today.
 






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Apparent to who, Lisa? And who gave Britain the 'power to decide'?
The British controlled Palestine until Israel, in the years following the end of World War II, became an independent state in 1947.
 






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Apparent to who, Lisa? And who gave Britain the 'power to decide'?
Just so you know, you could argue that the sky is blue in Israel and if the millionaire tv-evangelists had told her its not, she would write that its not over and over again for 50+ pages. Dont get frustrated. She really just buries information in threads.
 






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Britain was the Government of Palestine during the mandate period [long before the Holocaust] the mandate was given to Britain by the LoN [League of Nations] with multiple conditions on how Britain had to Govern Palestine. So, Lisa, tell me how Britain had the right to give Palestine to the zionist colonisers? If you don't know just say so.
 






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Just so you know, you could argue that the sky is blue in Israel and if the millionaire tv-evangelists had told her its not, she would write that its not over and over again for 50+ pages. Dont get frustrated. She really just buries information in threads.

lol... i'm still finding my way around the users here but certain things are already becoming apparent
 






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Just so you know, you could argue that the sky is blue in Israel and if the millionaire tv-evangelists had told her its not, she would write that its not over and over again for 50+ pages. Dont get frustrated. She really just buries information in threads.
Haha..what televangelist tells me what to think?
 






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Britain was the Government of Palestine during the mandate period [long before the Holocaust] the mandate was given to Britain by the LoN [League of Nations] with multiple conditions on how Britain had to Govern Palestine. So, Lisa, tell me how Britain had the right to give Palestine to the zionist colonisers? If you don't know just say so.
If they didn’t have the right..then they couldn’t have given it could they?
 






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Haha..what televangelist tells me what to think?
Well how DID you establish your views on Israel Lisa? What historians did you read? And no, you didn't get it from reading the Bible. Nobody in 1900 years read the Bible and then said "this is saying we need to put Jewish people on this piece of dirt over here".
 






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If they didn’t have the right..then they couldn’t have given it could they?
Well they didn't, Lisa, and since they didn't have the right.....

Here's a wee story you probably have never heard, Lisa. During WW2 a certain man helped secure the release of 20,000 Jews from the hands of the Nazis, not only did he secure their release but he also personally drove some of them to safety. Do you know what happened to that man, Lisa? I'll tell you. Your beloved zionists assassinated him and i think. Just that one incident, and there's plenty more, sums up the evil that is zionism...and it is evil.
 






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