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" And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." Revelation 18:2-5

It is starting to become more clear by the day who this verse is talking about.

Please educate me.
Who is it?
 






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Please educate me.
Who is it?
Well the article is showing how Israel has a Jewish connection in Morocco that has been able to give them an audience with the Moroccan Foreign minister. Israel was able to make an appeal that they would be able to help Morocco claim land that they are presently unable to claim because an indigenous population objects to this and also wants self-determination.

Morocco wants annexation and appears willing to partner with Israel who claims to be able to help them get this. They appear to be making Morocco drunk on the idea at the moment. If something like this were to happen, and Israel was able to gain the support of Morocco because of this so that they also supported Israel's annexation of the illegal settlements in Palestine, it would mean that political boundaries in the world were established for the sake of expanding Israel. Not because they were right or wrong, but because Israel wanted more people to support their annexation of the illegal settlements, and they bribed other nations in ways like this to get it.

So for completely selfish reasons, nations would become established with new boundaries. If these boundaries are achieved, there is no telling how other boundaries could be redefined in the future or how many other nations are also willing to sell out because it serves their own interests as well. It is also important to point out that Morocco only appears to support Israel because they are getting something out of the deal, which is another example of being made drunk.

A drunk person cannot make decisions that are in the best interest of everyone and it is impossible to think that a bigger place on a map is ever going to bring peace that doesn't include some abuse of power. Something like a police state is what you would need to maintain national boundaries achieved in this way very similar to how the plan for peace delivered by the Trump administration includes giving Israel military authority over Palestine. That is required to redefine new boundaries that help create an advantageous geopolitical position for Israel.

It wouldn't surprise me if a plan for Morocco's annexation delivered by the Trump administration at the request of Isreal also included Moroccan capacity to have military authority over the area that would be annexed. That is the only way to accomplish this when the area that would be conquered opposes the idea of merging with the neighboring country. It would have to become something like a police state.

So what I am saying is that this article paints a clear picture that Israel is a prime candidate for the true identity of Mystery Babylon in Revelation. They are truly a snake in the grass campaigning around the world like the Devil himself saying something along the lines of "did God really say that you couldn't have that piece of land too."
 






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Well the article is showing how Israel has a Jewish connection in Morocco that has been able to give them an audience with the Moroccan Foreign minister. Israel was able to make an appeal that they would be able to help Morocco claim land that they are presently unable to claim because an indigenous population objects to this and also wants self-determination.

Morocco wants annexation and appears willing to partner with Israel who claims to be able to help them get this. They appear to be making Morocco drunk on the idea at the moment. If something like this were to happen, and Israel was able to gain the support of Morocco because of this so that they also supported Israel's annexation of the illegal settlements in Palestine, it would mean that political boundaries in the world were established for the sake of expanding Israel. Not because they were right or wrong, but because Israel wanted more people to support their annexation of the illegal settlements, and they bribed other nations in ways like this to get it.

So for completely selfish reasons, nations would become established with new boundaries. If these boundaries are achieved, there is no telling how other boundaries could be redefined in the future or how many other nations are also willing to sell out because it serves their own interests as well. It is also important to point out that Morocco only appears to support Israel because they are getting something out of the deal, which is another example of being made drunk.

A drunk person cannot make decisions that are in the best interest of everyone and it is impossible to think that a bigger place on a map is ever going to bring peace that doesn't include some abuse of power. Something like a police state is what you would need to maintain national boundaries achieved in this way very similar to how the plan for peace delivered by the Trump administration includes giving Israel military authority over Palestine. That is required to redefine new boundaries that help create an advantageous geopolitical position for Israel.

It wouldn't surprise me if a plan for Morocco's annexation delivered by the Trump administration at the request of Isreal also included Moroccan capacity to have military authority over the area that would be annexed. That is the only way to accomplish this when the area that would be conquered opposes the idea of merging with the neighboring country. It would have to become something like a police state.

So what I am saying is that this article paints a clear picture that Israel is a prime candidate for the true identity of Mystery Babylon in Revelation. They are truly a snake in the grass campaigning around the world like the Devil himself saying something along the lines of "did God really say that you couldn't have that piece of land too."
Do you think you’re dislike of Israel is why you believe this?
 






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Another example of how Israel fits the description of mystery Babylon in the book of Revelation.


"Israeli sources have hinted that a formal normalization of ties will also help Israel in its attempts to deport Sudanese nationals seeking refuge in Israel. According to assessments by the UN, some 7,000 Sudanese individuals are currently living in Israel; 4,500 are originally from so-called "crisis areas" in Sudan, where most of the international community does not agree to have them deported...

Before Netanyahu set out for his visit, he said that "Israel is making a big return to Africa, and Africa has already returned to Israel. These are important ties politically, economically and in terms of security," adding that he hopes to have good news upon his return. "

Basically, the article is suggesting in addition to sharing deportation as a primary motivation for improved relations for Israel, good relations with Israel will bring economic improvements to Sudan. So Sudan has a financial incentive and is a vulnerable government that suffered under a dictator and sanctions for many years. It is implied that having good relations with Israel will somehow influence whether or not the US removes the economic sanctions. The Sudanese are basically economically cornered.

With all of this happening, who do you really think is going to come out on the stage at this point that is going to be going around making the nations drunk with promises of economic prosperity and permissions to conquer the land? The cognitive dissonance that some people have when it comes to studying prophecy and supporting Israel is truly astounding at times.
 






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Listen Lisa.

I am a twat too so it's ok.


Joke aside... God will not let the jews mock Jesus by building a temple and reinstitute animal sacrifices.

You have just misinterpreted bible verses... which have become somewhat of a holy cow to you.

It's just prejudice.
I think there is a gulf between the”should” and the “will” when it comes to the Jews in prophecy.

They should (and one day will) recognise their messiah...

Zechariah 12:10

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

Yet they will (prior to that) embrace the Antichrist.

John 5:43
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
 






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I think there is a gulf between the”should” and the “will” when it comes to the Jews in prophecy.

They should (and one day will) recognise their messiah...

Zechariah 12:10

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

Yet they will (prior to that) embrace the Antichrist.

John 5:43
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Who is the Antichrist ?

Daniel 9 26“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”



It's that guy above in bold right ?

Well there's a countdown to him just as there was a countdown to Christ.

Sixty-nine sevens minus sixty-two sevens equals seven sevens... from the command to restore control over the Old City of Jerusalem.

That's 7x360 weeks from July 7 1967... which completed on Sept 23 2015 the Day of Atonement.


So where is the prince of the people who destroyed the city and the sanctuary confirming a covenant ?




Well here he is on Sept 25 2015 right on Daniel's timeline confirming a covenant with many !

And as he said... he came in his own name.
 






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Who is the Antichrist ?

Daniel 9 26“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”



It's that guy above in bold right ?

Well there's a countdown to him just as there was a countdown to Christ.

Sixty-nine sevens minus sixty-two sevens equals seven sevens... from the command to restore control over the Old City of Jerusalem.

That's 7x360 weeks from July 7 1967... which completed on Sept 23 2015 the Day of Atonement.


So where is the prince of the people who destroyed the city and the sanctuary confirming a covenant ?




Well here he is on Sept 25 2015 right on Daniel's timeline confirming a covenant with many !

And as he said... he came in his own name.
Certainly the Pope (“Vicar of Christ”) is a possibility. If he confirms a 7 year peace with the “many” aka Daniel 9:27 he will be the Man of Sin. In the meantime, I am keeping an open mind...
 






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Certainly the Pope (“Vicar of Christ”) is a possibility. If he confirms a 7 year peace with the “many” aka Daniel 9:27 he will be the Man of Sin. In the meantime, I am keeping an open mind...
Is the United Nations not many ?

Daniel's prophecy doesn't say anything about a 7 year peace treaty. It only says that the prince who is to come will in the beginning of the 70th week confirm a covenant with many.
 






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Is the United Nations not many ?

Daniel's prophecy doesn't say anything about a 7 year peace treaty. It only says that the prince who is to come will in the beginning of the 70th week confirm a covenant with many.
What do you think the covenant will be?
 






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The UN has some global goals.

The Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) were eight international development goals for the year 2015 that had been established following the Millennium Summit of the United Nations in 2000, following the adoption of the United Nations Millennium Declaration. The Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) replaced the MDGs in 2016.


Those global goals is what the prince who is to come confirmed with many that is the UN right on Daniel's timeline.
 






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The UN has some global goals.

The Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) were eight international development goals for the year 2015 that had been established following the Millennium Summit of the United Nations in 2000, following the adoption of the United Nations Millennium Declaration. The Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) replaced the MDGs in 2016.


Those global goals is what the prince who is to come confirmed with many that is the UN right on Daniel's timeline.
Only if a temple in Israel is part of those global goals..
 






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Have you seen all the crazy stuff that happens all around the world lately?





I wonder:
"And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven."
Luke 21:11
 






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Have you seen all the crazy stuff that happens all around the world lately?




I wonder:
"And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven."
Luke 21:11
Isn’t that just the beginning though?
 






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Only if a temple in Israel is part of those global goals..
You don't understand.

This pope has fulfilled Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy right on time.


You are just about personal opinion and private interpretation.
 






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You don't understand.

This pope has fulfilled Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy right on time.


You are just about personal opinion and private interpretation.
No he hasn’t. And I am going by the Bible on this. A temple will be rebuilt because as I’ve shown you scripture talks about it. The anti will present himself as god in the temple aka the abomination of desolation...that is how the antichrist is revealed. This pope may or may not be him..we won’t know until the abomination of desolation who it really is.
 






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Luke 21:25 King James Version (KJV)
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;


 






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No he hasn’t. And I am going by the Bible on this. A temple will be rebuilt because as I’ve shown you scripture talks about it. The anti will present himself as god in the temple aka the abomination of desolation...that is how the antichrist is revealed. This pope may or may not be him..we won’t know until the abomination of desolation who it really is.
Again there is a precise timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist in Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy. This timeline predicts that the Christ would come in Nisan 33 AD and the Antichrist after Sept 23 2015.

Even the prophetic event was exactly fulfilled by this pope right on time on Sept 25 2015 when he confirmed the Agenda 2030 with the many in the UN.

So it's truly indisputable.
 






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