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Who in their right mind trusts anything the UN says at this point? They should have been kicked out of the US long ago. The fact that they haven't pretty much says it all. Both NATO and the UN are suspicious organizations. NATO is doing it's best to start WW 3 and God only knows what the UN is up to but rest assured it will be satanic.
I think Mulder had the right idea “trust no-one”. On my lack of trust list, the UN is one of my least trusted too!
 

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From T.W. Tramm’s Facebook page:

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During the week of September 16–23, an awesome biblical sign will be unfolding in the Constellation Virgo.

One of the components of this sign is an asteroid named 6000 United Nations. Between September 13–17, the asteroid named after the UN Organization will be exiting the belly of Virgo, denoting a birth, or new beginning.

The birth of asteroid 6000 United Nations has at least five prophetic connotations:

1. THE NUMBER

The number assigned to asteroid United Nations, “6000,” indicates that it was the 6000th asteroid to be discovered and catalogued by the Minor Planet Center. It is significant that the asteroid appearing in this month’s sign is number 6,000 because biblically the 6,000th year marks the end of the Church Age, and the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

Making this coincidence even more interesting, chronologists calculate that we are presently at (within a margin of error) the 6,000th year. The appearance of asteroid 6000 in this month’s sign could be confirmation.

2. PEACE AND SECURITY

Asteroid United Nations is named after the organization whose mission is to “maintain international peace and security.” This is significant because the sign given to the Church to recognize the season of judgment is people saying “peace and security”:

“Now, brothers and sisters, about times and seasons we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, ‘peace and security,’ destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape’” (1 Thess. 5:1–3).

The UN will convene to discuss matters related to international peace and security on September 18–19 this year, as asteroid United Nations is exiting the belly of Virgo.

3. A NEW BEGINNING

The birth of asteroid United Nations from Virgo this month suggests that a turning point, or new beginning, is at hand for the organization and the nations it represents.

Supporting this premise, the UN’s conference this year begins with a special summit to mark the start of “seven years of accelerated, transformative action” to achieve a set of international goals by 2030.

Moreover, 2023 marks the first year of a seven-year Sabbatical cycle, a time of new beginnings, and a likely start point for the final “week” of Bible prophecy (Dan. 9:24–27).

4. AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH

Asteroid United Nations was discovered in October–Cheshvan of a Sabbatical year, 1987.

Similarly, the United Nations Organization was established in October–Cheshvan of a Sabbatical year, 1945. The precise date was uncannily Cheshvan 17, the anniversary of Noah’s Flood.

It is striking that both the United Nations Organization and the asteroid named after it were established in God’s signature year, the Sabbatical, and particularly in the month of the Flood, because Scripture says the end of the age will be like the “days of Noah” (Matt. 24:37).

5. GRAPES OF WRATH

Six months prior to this month’s sign in Virgo, asteroid United Nations brushed by, practically touching, the constellation’s third brightest star, called Vindemiatrix. The name Vindemiatrix originates from the Greek term meaning “the grape harvester.” The title grape harvester was given this star because in ancient times, its first appearance in the pre-dawn sky was a sign that the grapes were ripe for harvest.

It is significant that the asteroid named “United Nations” brushed by the star named “grape harvester” ahead of this month’s sign because the judgment of the nations is likened to a harvest and trampling of grapes:

“Let the nations be roused; let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, for there I will sit to judge all the nations on every side. Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, trample the grapes, for the winepress is full and the vats overflow—so great is their wickedness!” (Joel 3:12, 13).

“Another angel … called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, ‘Take your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth’s vine, because its grapes are ripe.’ The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath” (Rev. 14:18, 19).

SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION

As part of an awesome biblical sign this month, an asteroid named 6000 United Nations will exit the belly of Virgo. This is significant because:

• The asteroid’s name (6000 United Nations) evokes two key prophetic markers: the 6,000th year, and people saying “peace and security.”

• The birth of asteroid United Nations, signifying a new beginning, coincides with the initiation of seven years of “transformative action” by the UN.

• The birth of asteroid United Nations occurs in the first year of a Sabbatical week, a likely time for the Tribulation week to begin.

• Ahead of this month’s sign, asteroid United Nations brushed by the star named “grape harvester,” signifying that the grapes (nations) are ripe for harvest and trampling.

Scripture says the heavens speak to us:

“The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge” (Ps. 19:1, 2).

The message of asteroid 6000 United Nations is that Judgment Day is near. Exactly how near, only God knows. But judging by the sign, it is very near.

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NOTES:

1. Asteroid (6000) United Nations:

2. Between 2015 and 2030, asteroid (6000) United Nations exits Virgo’s belly two other times: August 13–17, 2019 and October 7–9, 2027. However, neither of these births coincide with a one-of-a-kind astronomical convergence as in 2023.

3. Asteroids are assigned a number, based on the order of their discovery. For example, 1 Ceres was the first asteroid to be discovered in 1801 and is therefore numbered “1.” With this in mind, it defies coincidence that the 6000th asteroid was discovered in Cheshvan of a Sabbatical year (1987), is named “United Nations,” and is part of the biblical sign in Virgo this year.

4. Prophetically, the 6000th year marks four major milestones:

• The end of the Church Age.

• The final Jubilee.

• The end of 6,000 years, or six “days,” under Satan’s rule (2 Pet. 3:8).

• The beginning of the Day of the Lord.

At this time, the “ruler of this age,” the devil, will be cast down from the heavens to take up residence in a man, the “lawless one” (Rev. 12:7–9; 2 Cor. 4:4; 2 Thess. 2:4). Simultaneously, earth will be restored to its original Owner, God, who will then complete the redemption process for Israel and others by allowing a period of unequaled tribulation designed to bring them to faith (Lev. 25:23; Jer. 30:7; Zech. 13:9).

5. UN Summit 2023: https://www.un.org/en/conferences/SDGSummit2023

6. The UN was established October 24, 1945, corresponding to Cheshvan 17:
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7. About Vindemiatrix: https://www.star-facts.com/vindemiatrix/

8. To be precise, there are exactly 191 days between the asteroid United Nation’s conjunction with Vindemiatrix (March 3) and its first crossing of the boundary of Virgo’s belly (September 13). Seeing how this sign is a warning to the wicked nations that judgment is coming, it is interesting that Strongs # 191 (Hebrew) is the word evil, translated “foolish.” Strong’s # 191 (Greek) is the word akouó, meaning “to hear” or “give heed.”

9. More on the biblical alignment of September 2023, by T.W. Tramm:

September’s Biblical Sign – Comet Nishimura

Asteroid “Child” and the Great Sign

Signs in the Heavens – The Coming Lion

Comet Nishimura – What Are the Odds?

Comet Nishimura and the Month of the Bride

. . .

*Visit the author’s website: www.theseasonofreturn.com

*YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVxcqsgEKvYtscqyYJpTxbQ

IMPORTANT MESSAGE: No one knows the day or hour of Jesus’ return (Matt. 24:36). However, a convergence of biblical signs and timelines suggests it is near. To escape the judgment reserved for a God-rejecting world, one must be in a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. If you have not yet done so, call on His name and believe that He is the Son of God who died for your sins and was raised from the dead (Rom. 10:13). Do it today. Time is running out.
 

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These teachers and 'prophets' who speak by their own imaginations remind me of those adverts that say 'drinking this tea MAY help keep your heart healthy' or 'This cereal COULD help you lose weight as part of a calorie controlled diet'
 

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From TW Tramm’s Facebook page:

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BIBLICAL MATH suggests that 2023 is a Jubilee.

Could the recent arrival of two aptly name asteroids in the Constellation Virgo be confirmation?

During the month of Elul (August–September), just prior to the Revelation 12 alignment, a pair of asteroids, or “minor planets,” showed up in Virgo, where they will remain for several months.

The pair, which apparently travel together, will not appear again in the Revelation 12 alignment until 2027.

The first asteroid, which happens to be number 50 in order of the roughly 150,000 minor planets that have so far been discovered, is named “50 Virginia.” Asteroid 50 Virginia’s appearance in the Revelation 12 alignment is significant for two reasons:

1) Fifty is the number of harvest and Jubilee (Lev. 23:15; 25:8–10).

2) The name Virginia means “virgin,” as in the virgins who go out to meet the bridegroom (Jesus) at His coming (Matt. 25:1).

The second pertinent asteroid found in Virgo this month is named “652 Jubilatrix.”

Jubilatrix is a Latin name that means “Jubilee.” The asteroid was named Jubilatrix to honor the Diamond Jubilee of Austrian Emperor Franz Joseph in 1907.

Viewing asteroid 652 Jubilatrix as a biblical sign, it is fitting that Strong’s #652 is the word apostolos, which means “messenger,” or “one who is sent.”

Additionally, subtracting Virginia’s number (50), from Jubilatrix’s (652), we get 602. Strong’s Greek #602 is the word apokalupsis, which means “disclosure, coming, or revelation.”

Could the two asteroids currently in Virgo be part of a Divine revelation about One who is coming?

SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION

2023 is a calculated Year of Jubilee.

Just days ahead of this year’s Revelation 12 alignment, a pair of minor planets with names denotive of the Jubilee arrived in the constellation Virgo.

It defies coincidence that in a calculated Year of Jubilee, during the month in which “liberty” is declared by a trumpet blast, two jubilee-themed asteroids appear side by side on the shoulders of Virgo.

Scripture says the heavens speak to us:

“The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge” (Ps. 19:1, 2).

The message being declared in Virgo this month is that the Jubilee–liberation of believers is near.

Exactly how near, only God knows. But judging by the signs, it would appear very near.

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NOTES:

1. Biblical math that suggests 2023 is a Jubilee: https://storage.googleapis.com/wzukusers/user-35306783/documents/5d9d83c6cb9944c5994d2473b600ad24/THE YEAR OF REDEMPTION - WHY MILLIONS WILL SOON GO MISSING rev b.pdf

2. Asteroids 50 Virginia and 652 Jubilatrix entered Virgo on August 22 and September 13, respectively. They will exit Virgo on January 16 and January 13, respectively.

3. Minor planets (asteroids) numbered in order of discovery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meanings_of_minor-planet_names:_1–1000

4. More on Comet 50 Virginia: https://storage.googleapis.com/wzukusers/user-35306783/documents/b2615b10e34a4e488de40e8a67acc882/SIGNS IN THE HEAVENS - ASTEROID 50 VIRGINIA rev a.pdf

5. Incidentally, Strong’s #50 (Greek) is the word agnoeo, which means “to be ignorant,” as in Paul’s teaching about the Rapture:

“Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be ignorant [agnoeo] about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope …. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with … the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air …. Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates [of this event] we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, ‘Peace and safety,’ destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief” (Thess. 4: 12, 16, 17; 5:1–4).

Strong’s #50 (Hebrew) is the name “Abishua,” which means “my father is rescue.”

6. The Parable of the Virgins is a picture of two groups who are expecting the Messiah–Bridegroom. One group has “oil,” signifying a saving relationship with Jesus, whereas the other group does not have oil, and is thus locked out of the wedding (Matt. 25:10–12). Tragically, many Jews today are expecting the Messiah, but do not recognize that He is Jesus.

7. The biblical standard for determining the truth of a matter is the testimony of “two or three witnesses” (2 Cor. 13:1).

8. About Jubilatrix:
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9. 652 minus 50 equals 602. Strong’s Greek #602 means “disclosure: appearing, coming, manifestation, or revelation.” https://biblehub.com/greek/602.htm

10. The Jubilee is declared on the Day of Atonement (Lev. 25:9, 10).

11. The Revelation 12 alignment of 2023 is unique, in part, due to the sudden and unexpected appearance of Comet Nishimura in Virgo at this time. Comet Nishimura has a long list of prophetic connotations:

• Elul, the month in which the newly discovered Comet Nishimura first made news, is traditionally called “the month of the bride.”

• Comet Nishimura was discovered in the Constellation Gemini, the sign that depicts the “wedding union.”

• Comet Nishimura was not discovered by automated systems as is typical, but by an amateur astronomer named Hideo Nishimura. The name Hideo Nishimura, means “husband” and “to go west.” This is significant, because Jesus is the proverbial “husband” whose return is said to be like lightening from the “east to west” (Prov. 7:19, 20: Matt. 24:27).

• The Gematria value of the name Hideo Nishimura is 153, corresponding to the 153 fish, symbolic of Christians, who are “caught up” and brought to the Lord (John 21).

• Comet Nishimura is classified a “long-orbit” comet, referring to the fact that it takes centuries to return from its lengthy orbit around the Sun. This is significant because the returning Jesus is depicted as the “husband” who has been “gone on a long journey” (Prov. 7:19, 20).

• The last time the Comet Nishimura passed by Earth was 435 years ago. Strong’s #435 Greek is the word “anér,” meaning “betrothed or future husband.” Strong’s #435 Hebrew is the word “Elul,” referring to the month in which the newly discovered comet started making news.

• With the many prophetic coincidences in view, it seems Hideo Nishimura was chosen to discover the comet that last passed by Earth in 1588. Strong’s #1588 is the Greek word “eklektos,” referring to one who is “chosen out by God for the rendering of special service to Him.”

• Since Comet Nishimura last passed by Earth in a Sabbatical year (1588), there are 62 Sabbatical weeks between the comet’s previous visit and the one in 2023. This is significant because in Daniel’s Weeks Prophecy, Messiah appears after “62 weeks” (Dan. 9:25).

• During the seven days preceding the Feast of Trumpets, Comet Nishimura crossed over the first and last stars in the Constellation Leo, which depicts Jesus as the coming Judge. This is Significant because in the last passage of the last chapter of the Bible, Jesus says: “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the … First and the Last” (Rev. 22:13, 14).

• Comet Nishimura enters the Constellation Virgo at the Feast of Trumpets, where it stays for seven days (September 16–23). While in Virgo, the comet reaches maximum brightness (perihelion), before exiting the constellation around the last day of summer.

12. More on the Revelation 12 alignment of September 2023, by T.W. Tramm:

September’s Biblical Sign – Comet Nishimura

Asteroid “Child” and the Great Sign

Signs in the Heavens – The Coming Lion

Comet Nishimura – What Are the Odds?

Comet Nishimura and the Month of the Bride

Signs in the Heavens: Asteroid (6000) United Nations

. . .

*Visit the author’s website: www.theseasonofreturn.com

IMPORTANT MESSAGE: No one knows the day or hour of Jesus’ return (Matt. 24:36). However, a convergence of biblical signs and timelines suggests it is near. To escape the judgment reserved for a God-rejecting world, one must be in a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. If you have not yet done so, call on His name and believe that He is the Son of God who died for your sins and was raised from the dead (Rom. 10:13). Do it today. Time is running out.
 

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From T.W. Tramm’s Facebook page:

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THE most joyous festival on God’s calendar, the Feast of Tabernacles, begins September 29–30 this year.

Tabernacles marks the end of the summer harvest, when crops are gathered in from the fields (Ex. 23:16).

During the festival, which lasts seven days, the Israelites were to take palm branches and rejoice before the Lord. They were also to build makeshift booths, or “tabernacles,” and live in them as a reminder of the temporary shelters they inhabited before entering the Promised Land (Lev. 23:34, 40–43).

While Tabernacles points ultimately to the Millennial Kingdom, when God will dwell, or “tabernacle,” with man, it is also considered an apt time for the Rapture.

Here are 15 reasons why:

1. Tabernacles is when the wheat is gathered in from the threshing floors (Deut. 16:13). Since wheat symbolizes believers, its gathering is a picture of the Rapture: “Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him” (2 Thess. 2:1).

2. Tabernacles is when all the people rejoice before the Lord (Ex. 34:22, 23; Lev. 23:40). The greatest rejoicing before the Lord will occur at the Rapture (1 Thess. 2:1, 19; Rev 7:9–12).

3. Tabernacles is God’s chosen time of release or debt forgiveness (Deut. 31:10 AMP). The ultimate release occurs at the Rapture.

4. Tabernacles is celebrated with palm branches (Lev. 23:40). In Revelation chapter 7, the just-raptured saints are seen holding palm branches. Moreover, it is said that God will spread His “tabernacle” over them (vv. 7:9–12, 15).

5. Tabernacles is when the Law, or ‘wedding covenant’ with God, is read aloud before the people (Deut. 31:10, 11). Tabernacles is thus a time of making or renewing wedding vows.

6. Tabernacles is celebrated for seven days, corresponding to the seven-year wedding celebration in heaven after the Rapture.

7. Tabernacles is when the harvest is complete. The Gentile Ruth married the Jewish redeemer Boaz, a picture of the Rapture, when the harvest was complete (Ruth 2:21, 23 DRB).

8. Tabernacles begins at the full moon, signifying the fullness of the Gentiles (Rom. 11:25). The full moon is also when the proverbial “husband,” or “goodman,” Jesus, returns (Prov. 7:19, 20).

9. Tabernacles is the harvest at summer’s end. Summer’s end, after the harvest, is when the Jews lament not being saved: “The harvest is past, the summer has ended, and we are not saved” (Jer. 8:20).

10. After departing Egypt, the first place the Israelites camped was called Sukkoth, the Hebrew word for Tabernacles (Ex. 12:37). The departure from Egypt is a picture of the Rapture.

11. In John chapter 7, Jesus attends the Feast of Tabernacles in partial secrecy because His time had not yet fully come, and even His Jewish brothers did not believe in Him (vv. 5, 6). Similarly, the Rapture is a limited appearance at a time of Jewish unbelief.

12. Tabernacles will be celebrated by all the nations throughout the Millennium, so the festival has special meaning for Gentiles (Zech. 14).

13. The First Temple was dedicated to God at the Feast of Tabernacles (1 Kings 8:65). The ultimate ‘Temple,’ the Church, or Body of Christ, will be dedicated to the Lord at the Rapture (Eph. 2:20–22).

14. Since Tabernacles is the last festival of the year, it is when the “last trumpet” is sounded (1 Cor. 15:52).

15. Tabernacles is the festival with a special eighth day (Lev. 23:36). The number eight signifies a putting off of the flesh, a new beginning, and rescue from judgment (Gen. 17:12; 1 Pet. 3:20).

Finally, with the Tabernacles–Rapture parallels in view, here are some noteworthy things about this year’s Tabernacles:

• Tabernacles 2023 marks one Sabbatical week plus, since a super blood moon eclipse was visible from Israel on the Feast of Tabernacles in 2015. This is significant because a blood moon is a sign of the impending Day of the Lord, and God typically gives a one-week warning before bringing judgment (Joel 2:31; Gen. 7; 41; Josh. 6).

• Tabernacles 2023 will see the last supermoon for an entire year. Two weeks after the supermoon, when the lunar disc is again in its dark (new) phase, it will eclipse the Sun, causing an annular ‘wedding-ring’ eclipse to appear in the left-hand area of the Constellation Virgo.

• The first day of Tabernacles marks 100 years since the Palestine Mandate came into effect on September 29, 1923, making the Jews’ ancient homeland a distinct political entity for the first time in centuries, and setting the stage for the prophetic budding of the fig tree (Matt. 24:32–34).

• The first day of Tabernacles will see an intriguing astronomical alignment. A minor planet named “50 Virginia” (virgin) will meet up with the Sun in Virgo. The meeting of the virgin and the Sun on the first day of Tabernacles is even more interesting when we consider that 50 Virginia was discovered on the same day, the first day of Tabernacles, in 1857. (See notes for details).

• The seventh day of Tabernacles, October 6, will mark exactly 50 years since the Yom Kippur War began on October 6, 1973. Moreover, biblical math suggests that this 50-year period is a jubilee cycle. (See notes for details).

SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION

The types and themes of the Feast of Tabernacles make it a plausible time for the Rapture. Like the Rapture, Tabernacles is a time of . . .

• Ingathering.

• Rejoicing before the Lord.

• Fullness and completion.

• Gentile celebration.

• Temple dedication.

• Messiah appearing.

• The last trumpet.

• Weddings.

Having made the case for a Tabernacles Rapture, we understand that only God knows the actual timing (Matt. 24:36–44). Still, with the full-moon festival nearly upon us, it is a thrilling prospect.

. . .

NOTES:

1. Tabernacles is the designated time of release or debt forgiveness: “Moses commanded them, saying, ‘At the end of every seven years, at the time of year when debts are forgiven, at the Feast of Tabernacles’” (Deut. 31:10 AMP). It is important to note that the word translated “end” in Deuteronomy, qets, means “farthest border,” or “end in space.” Viewing the 365-day year as one circuit around the Sun, beginning at the spring equinox (Nisan–Passover), Earth reaches the “farthest border” in space at the autumnal equinox (Tishrei–Tabernacles). Thus, Deuteronomy 31:10 is not telling us that the seventh month marks the actual end of the year. The biblical year ends at Nisan (Ex. 12:1, 2).

2. Significantly, the heavenly fulfillment of Tabernacles in Revelation 7 occurs well before the Second Coming, as God’s judgment upon the earth has not yet begun (Rev. 8–10).

3. Curiously, in the Book of Revelation, the fall festivals are referenced in the reverse order of how they occur on the calendar: In Revelation 7, the saints in heaven are seen celebrating Tabernacles with palm branches (v. 9). Next, an angel performs the high-priest ritual of offering up much incense, an allusion to the Day of Atonement (Rev. 8:3, 4; Lev. 16). Finally, a series of judgments are announced by trumpets, an allusion to the Feast of Trumpets (Rev. 8, 9; Lev. 23:24). Seeing how the seven festivals are associated with the seven candles of the Menorah, it is noteworthy that the lighting of the candles at Hannukah occurs in the same reverse order. On the first day of the festival, the candle on the far right, corresponding to Tabernacles, is the first one lit. On the second day, the candle corresponding to the Day of Atonement is the first one lit. On the third day, the candle corresponding to the Feast of Trumpets is the first one lit.

4. Coincidentally, the Hebrew word translated “tabernacle,” mishkan, is Strong’s # 4908. The number 49 denotes the Jubilee, and the number 8 denotes the Feast of Tabernacles, the festival with an eight day (Lev. 23:36).

5. More on the biblical signs in Virgo:

September’s Biblical Sign – Comet Nishimura

Asteroid “Child” and the Great Sign

Signs in the Heavens – The Coming Lion

Comet Nishimura – What Are the Odds?

Comet Nishimura and the Month of the Bride

Signs in the Heavens: Asteroid (6000) United Nations

Signs in the Heavens: Asteroid (50) “Virgin”

Signs in the Heavens: Jubilee Confirmation?

6. 2023 Jubilee calculation:

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*Visit the author’s website: www.theseasonofreturn.com

IMPORTANT MESSAGE: No one knows the day or hour of Jesus’ return (Matt. 24:36). However, a convergence of biblical signs and timelines suggests it is near. To escape the judgment reserved for a God-rejecting world, one must be in a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. If you have not yet done so, call on His name and believe that He is the Son of God who died for your sins and was raised from the dead (Rom. 10:13). Do it today. Time is running out.
 
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I really hope people are not listening to these kinds of people.
I think there is a significant difference between possibilities and predictions.

IF the Rapture of the Church takes place at some point in the near future (and the stage seems to be set in many ways), many people I care about will be left behind. Some of them know I post here.

If there is even the slightest chance that something I could have said might help prevent them being deceived and lost forever after my departure, I would endure any amount of contempt. The same goes for people who I have interacted with here.
 

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These teachers and 'prophets' who speak by their own imaginations remind me of those adverts that say 'drinking this tea MAY help keep your heart healthy' or 'This cereal COULD help you lose weight as part of a calorie controlled diet'
As a wider question, do you think there will be any indications that the Lord might allow some people to become aware of prior to the “Day of the Lord”? Consider:

1 Thessalonians 5

The Day of the Lord
(Zephaniah 1:7-18; 2 Peter 3:10-13)

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

*This rather intriguing verse suggests to me and many I have interacted with that there will be indications available to those who are looking that the “Day of the Lord” is approaching. If there were, what would not being overtaken look like?

In a similar vein, Hebrews 10:25 states:

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

Would this exhortation have any meaning if there was nothing in particular that would indicate the approach of the return of the Lord? That is not to say that any expectation based on certain indicators judged to be significant will transpire.

Consider though the prophecy of Daniels’s 70 weeks. Sir Robert Anderson calculated the date of the Messiahs triumphal entrance into Jerusalem based on the date to the decree to rebuild and restore Jerusalem. Perhaps the wise men knew too, travelling from Persia where the memory of Daniels writings had been kept alive. I am sure that they would have been there with their charts and calculations, setting out on a long journey while their fellow satraps and officials thought they had been drinking the Kool-Aid.
 
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Based on our previous interactions, I suspect that part of the reason for us taking a different view on things eschatological are our different views on the legitimacy and significance of the return of Jews to Israel.

Some background might help with what I want to get over @Stucky - just as in math you should show your working out...

I think there is at least one other illustrative example from the OT where one person in referred to as another (as a metaphor):-

Question: "Is the king of Tyre prophecy in Ezekiel 28 referring to Satan?"

Answer: At first glance, the prophecy in Ezekiel 28:11–19 seems to refer to a human king. The city of Tyre was the recipient of some of the strongest prophetic condemnations in the Bible (Isaiah 23:1–18; Jeremiah 25:22; 27:1–11; Ezekiel 26:1– 28:19; Joel 3:4–8; Amos 1:9, 10).

https://www.gotquestions.org/King-of-Tyre.html

As the Bible has its own characteristic style and use of themes which first appear in one place then crop up in another, phrases like those in Exodus 7:1 should grab our attention.

There are many examples of themes and images that appear in a historical context that are later taken up to unlock their meaning.

The incident with the Bronze serpent and Moses is later taken up in the Gospel of John. in John 3:14 Jesus indicated that this bronze serpent was a foreshadowing of Him. The serpent, a symbol of sin and judgment, was lifted up from the earth and put on a tree, which was a symbol of a curse (Galatians 3:13). The serpent lifted up and cursed symbolized Jesus, who takes away sin from everyone who would look to Him in faith, just like the Israelites had to look to the upraised symbol in the wilderness.

https://www.gotquestions.org/bronze-serpent.html

This hopefully illustrates the idea I mentioned earlier - that the nature of the Bible is a bit like an orchestral piece with different movements and instruments.

Taking the musical analogy a little further, you may be aware of the existence of notes called “accidentals” which don’t quite fit into the main tonal structure. When you hear one of these, your ears should prick up as something in it may well be resolved by the composer later in the performance. The Bronze Serpent is such an accidental - not really alluded to as having significance later and apparently pointless at the time, I believe God gave that sign as to become a pattern for what would come later.

Again, from education, Piaget noted how children learn, moving from “concrete” experience to “abstract” learning later in life. This reflects the relationship between the OT typology and the NT explanations well. In the story of the Road to Emmaus, this principle is brought out beautifully:-

Luke 24

25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

Now to the question - have all the parallels been drawn and all the types and meanings been unlocked, or are these some that God has placed in order for us to search out? Perhaps the Parables of Jesus might give us a clue - the Parable of the Sower is explained, but intriguingly, many of the others are not.

Again, with prophecies, some are plain, clear and specific, e.g. Isaiah 53. Others are shown in parallels between people, events and stories. Examples of this are when the Book of Ruth parallels the “Kinsman Redeemer” and the gentile bride.

https://www.gotquestions.org/kinsman-redeemer.html

Moses as a pattern of Jesus - offered Himself for the people took a gentile bride

Numbers 12

3 (Now the man Moses was very humble, more than all men who were on the face of the earth.)

Surely this is either strangely inverted bragging or Moses is prophetically talking about one who was to come? Perhaps the story

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=NKJV&search=Numbers+12

We have Moses offering to give himself as a substitute for God’s wrath on the people, he takes a gentile bride - his own kin take against him as a result and speak against him. Miriam, as a result of her opposition is judged with leprosy and put out of the camp. The parallels with Jesus, the unbelieving Jews and the judgement that ultimately fell on them is clear.

Back to Exodus 7:1...
I had to post all of the above in order to say this - I believe that when the passage says that Moses will be God to Pharaoh, there is a sense in which Moses will show God’s power to Pharaoh himself, but there is a wider sense in which both Moses and Pharaoh illustrate God speaking to the hard-hearted, unbelieving world. Many people have noted the similarity of the plagues of Egypt to the judgements of Revelation. As many Christians believe we are in the “end times“, this resonance appears to be particularly important.

Before the judgements began, Pharaoh was given two signs by Moses, the staff that was cast down, became a serpent, and was restored to a staff once more, and the sign of the leperous hand...

Exodus 3

Miraculous Signs for Pharaoh

4 Then Moses answered and said, “But suppose they will not believe me or listen to my voice; suppose they say, ‘The Lord has not appeared to you.’ ”
2 So the Lord said to him, “What is that in your hand?”
He said, “A rod.”
3 And He said, “Cast it on the ground.” So he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from it. 4 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Reach out your hand and take it by the tail” (and he reached out his hand and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand), 5 “that they may believe that the Lord God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has appeared to you.”
6 Furthermore the Lord said to him, “Now put your hand in your bosom.” And he put his hand in his bosom, and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous, like snow. 7 And He said, “Put your hand in your bosom again.” So he put his hand in his bosom again, and drew it out of his bosom, and behold, it was restored like his other flesh. 8 “Then it will be, if they do not believe you, nor heed the message of the first sign, that they may believe the message of the latter sign.


Exodus 7

8 Then the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying, 9 “When Pharaoh speaks to you, saying, ‘Show a miracle for yourselves,’ then you shall say to Aaron, ‘Take your rod and cast it before Pharaoh, and let it become a serpent.’ ” 10 So Moses and Aaron went in to Pharaoh, and they did so, just as the Lord commanded. And Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
11 But Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers; so the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12 For every man threw down his rod, and they became serpents. But Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods. 13 And Pharaoh’s heart grew hard, and he did not heed them, as the Lord had said.

I have not read this in any book or watched it on YouTube, but it is a parallel that has stayed with me for a couple of years now...

A rod represents authority. A serpent represents sin...

Joshua 5

The Commander of the Army of the Lord
13And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, “Are You for us or for our adversaries?”
14So He said, “No, but as Commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.”
And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, “What does my Lord say to His servant?”
15Then the Commander of the Lord’s army said to Joshua, “Take your sandal off your foot, for the place where you stand is holy.” And Joshua did so.

2 Corinthians 5

20Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God. 21For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Philippians 2

9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Many reject the former sign.

There is also a latter sign...

Acts 7

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

Matthew 21

The Fig Tree Withered
18 Now in the morning, as He returned to the city, He was hungry. 19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, “Let no fruit grow on you ever again.” Immediately the fig tree withered away.

Romans 12

Israel’s Rejection Not Final

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their [a]fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.

In Revelation, Jesus says he is the “first and the last” and to me the relationship between the first books in the Bible and the last are inescapable.

God is still extending the time of grace, and we can still choose to accept it or refuse it. For those who follow Pharaoh’s example, the words of the Lord to Moses should come as a warning...

Exodus 3

9 And it shall be, if they do not believe even these two signs, or listen to your voice, that you shall take water from the river and pour it on the dry land. The water which you take from the river will become blood on the dry land.”
 
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It seems 2030 is quite significant year to the elites as if they are expecting something big to come, we are in 2023 as of this writing and from 2024 to 2030 is seven years, could this be the seven years tribulation written in the Book of Revelation?

Dear all, stay vigilant (of signs), repent, live a righteous life and be ready to face our Lord.
 

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From TW Tramm’s Facebook page:

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THE final biblical holiday of 2023—Hanukkah—begins the evening of December 7.

While Hanukkah is not the first festival one thinks of when it comes to the Rapture, there are at least 10 ways it points to the “blessed hope,” the glorious appearing of Jesus Christ:

1. THE NINTH MONTH

Hanukkah occurs in the ninth month, Kislev. The number nine appears 49 times (the number of Jubilee) in Scripture and signifies completeness or finality.

2. ‘MIDNIGHT’ OF THE YEAR

Astronomically, the year is a circle. Dividing the circle into halves at the spring and fall equinoxes, the winter solstice around Hanukkah marks the halfway point, or ‘midnight,’ of the dark (nighttime) portion of the year. This is significant because midnight is when the bridegroom comes to gather the virgins: “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!” (Matt. 25:6).

3. ‘THIRD WATCH’ OF THE YEAR

Dividing the circle of the year into four ‘watches’ at the equinoxes and solstices, the winter solstice around Hanukkah marks the end of the third watch. In Luke, Jesus warns that He may come during the third watch: “And if he shall come in … the third watch, and find them so [watching], blessed are those servants” (Luke 12:38 KJV).

4. DEDICATING THE TEMPLE

Hanukkah commemorates the cleansing and rededication of the Temple to the Lord, after the Jews recaptured it from the Greek army and Antiochus IV Epiphanes, who had defiled it. The cleansing and dedication of the Temple points to the dedication of the ultimate Temple—the Church, or Body of Christ—at Jesus’ coming.

5. A SECOND FEAST OF TABERNACLES

Hanukkah, the festival that commemorates the rededication of the Temple, is patterned after the original feast of dedication, Tabernacles (1 Kings 8:1–21; 2 Macc. 1:9, 18). Since Hanukkah is basically a delayed observance of Tabernacles, some Jewish scholars teach that it marks the true conclusion of the High Holy Days.

6. JESUS AT THE GATHERING PLACE

In John chapter 10, it is on Hanukkah that Jesus appears at the Temple area called Solomon’s porch (vv. 22, 23). Solomon’s porch was a place of assembly for the early Church, and is believed to be the location of the gathering of the saints on the first Pentecost, when the Church Age began (Acts 2; 5:12).

7. SPIRITUAL HARVEST

In John chapter 4, it is around Hanukkah, when spring is yet four months away, that Jesus surveys the spiritual field and deems it ripe for harvest: “You have a saying, ‘Four more months and then the harvest.’ But I tell you, take a good look at the fields; the crops are now ripe and ready to be harvested!” (John 4:35).

8. ENOCH AND HANUKKAH

The name Enoch means “dedicated or consecrated,” and is derived from the same Hebrew word Hanokh used for Hanukkah. This is significant because Enoch, who was supernaturally taken up to be with God, is a picture of the raptured Church. What’s more, Enoch was raptured when he was 365 years old (Gen. 5:23, 24), the same number of days in the Gregorian year that ends around Hanukkah.

9. A GREAT SHAKING

It was on Kislev 24, the date that would later become Hanukkah Eve, that God gave Haggai a prophecy about a great shaking at the end of the age:

“The word of the Lord came to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying … I am going to shake the heavens and the earth. I will [in the distant future] overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroy the power of the kingdoms of the [ungodly] nations” (Hagg. 2:20–22; Heb. 12:26).

Correspondingly, the Rapture will shake the heavens and earth (Rev. 6:12–17).

10. A TIME OF SHOPPING AND FEASTING

Kislev, the month of Hanukkah and Christmas, is when people worldwide are shopping and feasting. This is significant because Jesus says they will be “eating, drinking, buying and selling,” when Judgment Day arrives (Luke 17). It is also said that people will be “planting” and “marrying.” Kislev–December, the final month of fall, is when wheat and barley are planted in Israel, and is considered an extremely auspicious time for weddings.

In summary, Hanukkah is . . .

• A time of completion, or finality.

• ‘Midnight’ of the biblical year.

• The end of the ‘third watch.’

• A time of dedicating the Temple.

• A delayed Feast of Tabernacles.

• A time when Jesus is at the Temple.

• A time of spiritual harvest.

• A time of shaking, or judgment.

• A time of buying, selling, eating drinking, planting and marrying.

The rapture themes of Hanukkah remind us that the ultimate festival of dedication lies ahead. Soon, on a day no one knows, the ‘Temple’ that has been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb—the Church of Jesus Christ—will stand spotless before the Lord.

. . .

NOTES:

1. Hanukkah (general):

2. The number nine in Scripture: https://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/9.html

3. Hanukkah as a second Feast of Tabernacles:

4. That Hanukkah is patterned after the Feast of Tabernacles explains why the Hallel (Ps. 113–118), originally sung only at Tabernacles, is still sung at synagogue Hanukkah services today.

5. Hanukkah as the conclusion of the High Holy Days and time of final judgment:

6. Solomon’s porch and the gathering of the saints on Pentecost:

7. Enoch etymology: https://www.etymonline.com/word/enoch

8. Haggai chapter 2 implies that Kislev 24 is when the foundation of the Temple was laid. It is believed that this day was kept as a day of gathering in the Temple, commemorating its foundation, which is why the Greeks chose it as a day of defilement, and why the Jews chose it as a day of dedication.

9. Americans are “doom spending” this Kislev–December: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/29/americans-are-doom-spending-heres-why-thats-a-problem.html

10. Hanukkah–Kislev is an auspicious time for weddings: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/476754/jewish/Approved-Dates-for-a-Wedding.htm

11. The ultimate Temple of God is the body of believers called the Church (1 Cor. 3:16, 17).

12. Hanukkah events in modern times:

• On Hanukkah Eve in 1917, British forces liberated Jerusalem from centuries of Muslim–Turkish rule.

• The week before Hanukkah in 1947, the UN voted in favor of the creation of an independent Jewish state in the Land of Israel.

• The week before Hanukkah in 2017, Donald Trump became the first foreign leader in modern history to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

. . .

*Visit the author’s website: www.theseasonofreturn.com

IMPORTANT MESSAGE: No one knows the day or hour of Jesus’ return (Matt. 24:36). However, a convergence of biblical signs and timelines suggests it is near. To escape the judgment reserved for a God-rejecting world, one must be in a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. If you have not yet done so, call on His name and believe that He is the Son of God who died for your sins and was raised from the dead (Rom. 10:13). Do it today. Time is running out.
 
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We know Jesus isnt coming anytime soon because the euphrates war hasn't happened. the fall of the mystery babylon (THIS SYSTEM) and then the Beast and the false messiah.

However if Hannukah is relevant in all this, it is a celebration of the maccabean revolt which is very much the same as what Hamas stands for.
So we have a nation that celebrates the very thing it opposes. Just as this nation celebrates Hannaukah when the nation mourned and begged God to never let them succumb to defeat ever again, but then God saw fit to send them ROME and the rest.

These people condemned themselves and im 1000% certain just by observing the arrogance and lies that back it, that it will be 'permanently wiped off the map'
this is what muslims mean when we saw it...they are guilty by their own beliefs. their own conscience condemns them. people like that have absolutely nothing. they exist in shadow, by shadow and for shadow. they are blind to the light of Truth.

and hence

Isaiah 42
Israel Blind and Deaf
18 “Hear, you deaf;
look, you blind, and see!
19 Who is blind but my servant,
and deaf like the messenger I send?
Who is blind like the one in covenant with me,
blind like the servant of the Lord?
20 You have seen many things, but you pay no attention;
your ears are open, but you do not listen.”
21 It pleased the Lord
for the sake of his righteousness
to make his law great and glorious.
22 But this is a people plundered and looted,
all of them trapped in pits
or hidden away in prisons.
They have become plunder,
with no one to rescue them;
they have been made loot,
with no one to say, “Send them back.”
23 Which of you will listen to this
or pay close attention in time to come?

24 Who handed Jacob over to become loot,
and Israel to the plunderers?
Was it not the Lord,
against whom we have sinned?
For they would not follow his ways;
they did not obey his law.
25 So he poured out on them his burning anger,
the violence of war.
It enveloped them in flames, yet they did not understand;
it consumed them, but they did not take it to heart.





who owns Israel?
Who does this family worship?




^^
Baphomet



Israel is a masonic/lucifarian project.



city like sodom and egypt
 
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