Hamas violently suppresses Gazans as they begin ‘We Want To Live’ protests

[elsbet]

I'm not sure what you're saying here...
Certainly more humane than Hamas, who counts any Israeli dead, even an innocent child, as a just target.

Sounds like he is saying that the Protesters in Gaza had it coming.

And he's deflecting by defending the price hikes, rather than addressing the fact that Hamas broke people's bones, for protesting them, and then, had them arrested. Journalists, included. (What happens in Palestine...)

Seems he's also saying Israel made them beat the everloving shit out of those protestors, too, oddly enough. Pretty wild.

 

[elsbet]

I don't think Israel is perfect.

I just wonder why people keep accusing Israel of crimes without any evidence. Don't you wonder the same thing?

No one has even addressed the topic in the OP, so I'm going to venture a No. The abuse and imprisomement suffered at the hands of hamas is apparently a side issue-- they're okay with the mistreatment, as long as the Jews are gone. However, it is interesting to note that this generation isn't quite as tolerant of these pirates.

 

[DesertRose]

they're okay with the mistreatment, as long as the Jews are gone.

Careful no one said anything about the Jews leaving but for a cessation of oppressive Zionist policies and we know that all Jews are not Zionists so we will not fall for that canard.
Human rights, fairness and justice for all.

Your religion speaks about helping the oppressed and poor and there are Muslims and Christians who are oppressed on that land.
It is absolute falsehood to equate Hamas to the Israeli demon army only the most deluded cz types can even do that with a straight face.

 

[Thunderian]

ENJOY !
Arresting 5 year old from school

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=313316812714610

I'm not on Facebook, and I have it blocked on my browser so I can't see this, but I'm sure it's as compelling evidence as anything else you've posted.

 

[Thunderian]

It is absolute falsehood to equate Hamas to the Israeli demon army only the most deluded cz types can even do that with a straight face.

So why is it so easy to find ample and factual evidence of Hamas crimes, yet not of the Israeli crimes you say are being committed?

 

[DesertRose]

So why is it so easy to find ample and factual evidence of Hamas crimes, yet not of the Israeli crimes you say are being committed?

 

[Thunderian]

That's about what I thought, @DesertRose. Thanks for playing.

Does anyone have anything other than Facebook posts and memes to bolster the argument that Israel is such an egregiously criminal state that it should be obliterated?

 

[DesertRose]

Israel's regime is the biggest threat to peace in the world
#FreePalestine #FreeGaza #ApartheidIsrael #IsraelCrimes #IsraelZionism #IsraelInterferenceInUSPolicy #IsraelLobbyGroup #BDS.

 

[Thunderian]

IDF strikes two Hamas posts after aerial incendiary devices sent from Gaza

Hamas terrorists attach incendiary bombs to balloons and drones and launch them toward Israel. It's low-tech, but some of the bombs have landed in kindergarten playgrounds.

People need to know that when Israel attacks Hamas in Gaza, it's not to collectively punish Palestinians. It's because Hamas is evil.

 

[elsbet]

Careful no one said anything about the Jews leaving but for a cessation of oppressive Zionist policies and we know that all Jews are not Zionists so we will not fall for that canard.
Human rights, fairness and justice for all.

If you really believed in ...

Human rights, fairness and​

justice for all.​

... then you'd have a problem with the brutality of hamas. But you don't, apparently.

Your religion speaks about helping the oppressed and poor and there are Muslims and Christians who are oppressed on that land.

Your religion, on the other hand, is trying to hide the violence of the 'government' in Palestine against its own citizens.

... but hey you are a jew... and that is what jews do.

This inherent bigotry is your biggest stumbling block, collectively speaking.

 

[Awoken2]

Goals of the HAMAS:
"The Islamic Resistance Movement

If there was nothing to resist there would be no need for a resistance movement would there? People would just be getting on with their lives.

If some group arrived in your home town and said you had to leave wouldn't you resist? And if you did resist does that automatically make you a terrorist?

 

[Thunderian]

If some group arrived in your home town and said you had to leave wouldn't you resist?

Do you really imagine that on May 14, 1948, a bunch of Jews came down from Europe and kicked all the Arabs out of Palestine?

And if you did resist does that automatically make you a terrorist?

If you deliberately target civilians, then yes, it does make you a terrorist.

 

[Awoken2]

If you deliberately target civilians, then yes, it does make you a terrorist.

See post 61. Well done.

 

[DesertRose]

Your religion, on the other hand, is trying to hide the violence of the 'government' in Palestine against its own citizens.

Nonsense! The Palestinians are a people fighting against an army. Amnesty international has sited all their criminal actions against civilians. The UN which is made up of many countries around the world have just adopted 5 new resolutions citing Israel human rights abuses not Hamas the cz red herring because Hamas is more like a police force.
The countries that voted for these resolutions range from European such as Belgium to Korea to NEPAL.
The whole world except a bunch of Zionists condemns Israeli oppression.
"Members of the UN Commission of investigation says there is evidence Israel committed 'serious violations of Human rights' in responding to last year's protests in Gaza, as snipers targeted people clearly identifiable as children, health workers and journalists."
UN accuses Israel of 'serious violations of Human rights'

 

[Thunderian]

See post 61. Well done.

You understand that those propaganda videos you and others keep posting are not actually truthful, right?

In your fevered, terrorist fantasies, Israel targets innocent civilians. In real life, it's Hamas who does this, as the evidence shows.

 

[elsbet]

Nonsense! The Palestinians are...

... 3rd world pawns in the Islamic effort to remove the Jews. I get it.

Terribly enlightening, though, the effort you both put into distracting from the murderous Palestinian government. They treat their own people as though they are disposable-- so do you, by ignoring their violence.

 

[DesertRose]

... 3rd world pawns in the Islamic effort to remove the Jews. I get it.

God willing. I am at peace that I do not support falsehood and immorality.
Very glad many people of Jewish faith who want to live in peace are rejecting the immoral actions of their government and some of them served in the Israeli army and are now telling the truth.

caption under the video:
"We want Israeli society to wake up and know what's happening there," states former commander Yehuda Shaul. Like most young Israelis, Yehuda served in the army. But his experiences there left him angry and traumatised. Now, he's organised an exhibit of photographs and videos taken by soldiers in the Occupied territories. The aim is to force Israelis to recognise what's actually happening there and how it's damaging many soldiers. "This exhibition is about Israeli soldiers and how they come home after serving in Hebron," explains exhibition contributor Yonathon Boumfeld. "It's like they have a scratch in the brain." The most contentious part of the exhibit is a series of video testimonies from soldiers that include description of war crimes they committed. The soldiers face possible prison sentences for going public with their stories. But they refuse to be put off. More and more conscripts are coming forward with testimonies illustrating how they've been traumatised by their experiences. As exhibition organiser Avihai Sharon explains "We're not trying to ruin the army. We're trying to build the army back to what it's supposed to be."

caption under the video:
Cleansing Gaza: It's the two-year anniversary of Operation Cast Lead and for the first time Israeli soldiers are speaking publicly about their orders. In startling interviews they claim the IDF brutally targeted civilians.

 

[Woke]

So why is it so easy to find ample and factual evidence of Hamas crimes, yet not of the Israeli crimes you say are being committed?

Thunderian the shill doing what he does best

 

[Awoken2]

You understand that those propaganda videos you and others keep posting are not actually truthful, right?

In your fevered, terrorist fantasies, Israel targets innocent civilians. In real life, it's Hamas who does this, as the evidence shows.

Why would any rational person believe a word uttered by a brainwashed Christian Zionist? You have been programmed by a book...simple as that.

[ QUOTE="elsbet, post: 194570, member: 519"]They treat their own people as though they are disposable-- so do you, by ignoring their violence.[/QUOTE]

...and U.S.A doesn't? Lol

 

[elsbet]

Why would any rational person believe a word uttered by a brainwashed Christian Zionist? You have been programmed by a book...simple as that.

They treat their own people as though they are disposable-- so do you, by ignoring their violence.

...and U.S.A doesn't? Lol

What does that mean to you, "... and usa doesn't" Are you saying that makes alright or that it makes it unworthy of discussion? I can't quite tell.

And a book... so what does islam subscribe to, again? Your television programming is really showing here.

Maybe its a lack of emotional intelligence that doesn't permit you to separate the identity of Palestine from Israel. <--- Read that again-- it's the big secret-- modern Palestine really *doesnt* exist without Israel. Why do you think no other muslim countries help them? Marinate on that for a moment, because this thread isn't about Israel.