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Even the last bottleneck is not so insurmountable you see.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/19/microsoft-digital-id-initiative/
"It's difficult to live without identification. In many cases, you're shut out of banking, health care, voting rights and other basics. Microsoft and partners might just give those many undocumented people (1.1 billion of them, in fact) a shot at the identity they need, though. It's working with Accenture and Avanade on a United Nations-backed digital ID effort that would offer legal recognition to those who'd otherwise be lost to recordkeepers. The prototype uses blockchain technology to give people a trustworthy ID that can follow them anywhere, but still respects privacy and security.

Rather than pool IDs in a central database, the initiative relies on a distributed database run by trusted parties spread across the blockchain. You don't have to worry about a sole gatekeeper holding the keys to your life, or risk losing access because you've traveled to another country. And while it relies on biometrics (such as fingerprints and iris scans) for authentication, any personally identifying info is purposefully kept off the chain and exposed only when you grant access."
 

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http://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musks-neuralink-artificial-intelligence-2017-6
Tim Urban of Wait But Why has a relationship with Musk that gives him unique access to insight into the tech mogul. Urban suggests Musk is betting on the possibility that melding human and artificial intelligence will make us more likely to survive the emergence of super-intelligent (and super-powerful) AI.

Urban wrote an excellent 38,000 word post about Neuralink and AI's existential threat to humanity, but he gave a short version of this idea to author Virginia Heffernan in a conversation hosted by Heleo:

"Elon is very nervous about AI, and rightly so. Intelligence gives humans this God-like power over all animals just because we're more intelligent. We're building something more intelligent than we are, that's a concern. He believes that the solution to reduce existential risk is to be able to high bandwidth interface with AI. He thinks that if we can think with AI, it allows AI to function as a third layer in our brain, where we could have AI that's built for us. So we have human intelligence and then we have artificial intelligence, and they're both us and so we become AI in a way.

That sounds kind of creepy but it makes sense if all of us are AI, there's not really anyone that can get control over all the AI in the world, monopolize it, and maybe do bad things with it because they are contending with a millions and billions of people who have access to AI. It's much safer in a weird way, even though it gives us all a lot more power. It's like you don't want one Superman on earth, but if you have a billion Supermen then everything is okay because they check and balance each other."
But as Musk sees it, we're closer to that future than we think.

"We already have a digital tertiary layer in a sense, in that you have your computer or your phone or your applications," Musk told Urban. "The thing that people, I think, don’t appreciate right now is that they are already a cyborg. You’re already a different creature than you would have been twenty years ago, or even ten years ago ... If you leave your phone behind, it’s like missing limb syndrome."

Musk also told Urban that he thinks healthy people will be able to start using some sort of brain-computer interface for cognitive enhancement within the next 8 to 10 years. If that happens, the minds working on understanding our own brain and trying to develop new interfaces will grow even smarter, quicker, and more powerful.
 

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China offers another glimpse of what's to come.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-builds-glorious-trustworthiness-with-new-social-credit-system-1.3133028
The Chinese government has introduced a data-driven social credit system to force its citizens to be honest and trustworthy, ranking them by good or bad behaviour, with performance-related rewards and punishment.

Using algorithms to keep people honest, the central message is: “Forge a public message that to keep trust is glorious”.

The new system will make citizens more accountable and build a national credit rating system, according to the State Council or cabinet, but many are wary of allowing the Communist Party access so many personal details, especially as President Xi Jinping’s government has cracked down on personal freedom.

Due to roll out in 2020, the social credit system uses big data technology to collect information on all citizens and analyse that information to rate behaviour, including financial creditworthiness and personal conduct.

One of the chief architects of the system is Lian Weiliang, deputy head of the National Development and Reform Commission.

Lian says fraud is becoming far too common in society and something needs to be done. Last year, 4.9 million people were stopped from taking flights and 1.65 million banned from trains because they had defaulted on debts.

The scope of the system is immense. In Shenzhen, thousands of unpaid parking tickets have been logged, while the People’s Daily reports that people who abuse the popular new bike-sharing schemes will see their credit rating affected.

So far, so Big Brother. There are parallels to an episode of the British science fiction Black Mirror TV show, where a woman lives in a dystopia in which people rate other’s popularity out of five stars. But while the planned mass surveillance system smacks of George Orwell orchestrated by the Men in Black, the government insists it is less sinister than it appears.

“The creditworthy will be granted conveniences in education, employment and opening start-ups, while severe wrongdoing will be made public,” run directives from the State Council.
 

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What do you know, paying for everything by swiping your hand is also so much cleaner.
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/atms-dispense-more-than-money-the-dirt-and-dope-thats-on-your-cash/all/
We live in a dirty world. Wherever we go, we are among microbes. Bacteria, fungi and viruses live on our phones, bus seats, door handles and park benches. We pass these tiny organisms to each other when we share a handshake or a seat on the plane.

Now, researchers are finding we also share our microbes through our money. From tip jars to vending machines to the meter maid – each dollar, passed person to person, samples a bit of the environment it comes from, and passes those bits to the next person, the next place it goes.

The list of things found on our dollars includes DNA from our pets, traces of drugs, and bacteria and viruses that cause disease.

The findings demonstrate how money can silently record human activities, leaving behind so-called “molecular echoes.”

What’s on a dollar bill?

In April, a new study identified over a hundred different strains of bacteria on dollar bills circulating in New York City. Some of the most common bugs on our bills included Propionibacterium acnes, a bacteria known to cause acne, and Streptococcus oralis, a common bacteria found in our mouths.

The research team, led by biologist Jane Carlton at New York University, also discovered traces of DNA from domestic animals and from specific bacteria that are associated only with certain foods.

A similar study recovered traces of DNA on ATM keypads, reflecting the foods people ate in different neighborhoods. People in central Harlem ate more domestic chicken than those in Flushing and Chinatown, who ate more species of bony fish and mollusks. The foods people ate transferred from fingers to touchscreens, where scientists could recover a bit of their most recent meals.

We don’t leave only food behind. Traces of cocaine can be found on almost 80 percent of dollar bills. Other drugs, including morphine, heroin, methamphetamine and amphetamine, can also be found on bills, though less commonly than cocaine.

Identifying foods people eat or the drugs people use based on interactions with money might not seem all that useful, but scientists are also using these types of data to understand patterns of disease. Most of the microbes the researchers in New York identified do not cause disease. But other studies have suggested that disease-causing strains of bacteria or virus could be passed along with our currency.

Bacteria that cause food-borne illness – including Salmonella and a pathogenic strain of E.coli – have been shown to survive on pennies, nickels and dimes and can hide out on ATM machines. Other bacteria, such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) which causes skin infections, are found on bank notes in the U.S. and Canada, but the extent to which they could spread infections is unknown.

Try as we may to avoid exposure to germs, they travel with us and on us. Even if disease-causing microbes can survive in places like ATMs, the good news is that most exposures don’t make us sick.
 

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Perhaps it really has got to the point where we should take Revelation 13 seriously?

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

To think, when I was growing up, how I used to smirk at people who would talk about anything 'end times'...

 
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The push to render all passwords obsolete through the implant has gotten to this point, hackers capturing your brainwaves.
https://www.uab.edu/news/innovation/item/8454-study-finds-hackers-could-use-brainwaves-to-steal-passwords
"Nitesh Saxena, Ph.D., associate professor in the UAB College of Arts and Sciences Department of Computer and Information Sciences, and Ph.D. student Ajaya Neupane and former master's student Md Lutfor Rahman, found that a person who paused a video game and logged into a bank account while wearing an EEG headset was at risk for having their passwords or other sensitive data stolen by a malicious software program."

The irony is those in the know are aware that ultra-secure identification is useless:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/06/06/mark-zuckerbergs-password-was-dadada-what-hope-do-the-rest-of-us/
"When Mark Zuckerberg first built Facebook in his Harvard dormitory, he joked about the disregard that the social network's early users apparently had for their security.

“I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses… people just submitted it. I don’t know why. They ‘trust’ me. Dumb f***s,” he told a friend.

As it turns out, Zuck’s own security credentials don’t live up to the mark: On Sunday night, both his Twitter and Pinterest accounts were broken into.
...
His password, unbelievably, was “dadada”, itself a security nightmare: it would take under 25 seconds for a brute force attack to crack it, according to one password checker. No capital letters, numbers or any other device. In security rankings, it sits not too far above “abcdef” and “p4ssw0rd”.

Not only that, Zuck had the same password for Pinterest and Twitter as he did for LinkedIn. Once hackers had his LinkedIn password, it didn’t really matter how complex it was: it’s just as easy to copy and paste a 26-character string of gibberish as “dadada”."
 

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From half of them not having even a birth certificate to everyone who wants to subsist within the confines of the system being counted and marked in less than a decade.
http://www.businessinsider.com/india-might-be-first-cashless-society-2017-6
"The top news out of India over the past 12 months has been Prime Minister Modi’s move to ban 85% of the currency in circulation. However, something much more far-reaching has happened.

It’s called India Stack.

The Foundations of a New Financial System

Before 2009, half of all Indians didn’t have any form of identification, not even a birth certificate.

Without a form of identification, citizens couldn’t access services like banking, insurance, or even get a driver’s license. As such, many opportunities like starting a business were not available to them.

Then In 2009, India launched Aadhaar.

Aadhaar is a biometric database based on a 12-digit digital identity, authenticated by finger prints and retina scans.

It became the largest and most successful IT project ever. As of 2016, 1.1 billion people (95% of the population) had a digital proof of identity.

But Aadhaar was just the beginning.

Taking Aadhaar to a Whole New Level

In 2016, India added another component to its digitized system called India Stack.

India Stack is a series of secured and connected systems that allow people to store and share personal data such as addresses, bank statements, employment records, and tax filings.

This is all accessed, and can be shared, via Aadhaar.

India Stack allows citizens to open a bank account or brokerage account, buy a mutual fund, or share medical records anywhere in India with just a fingerprint or retinal scan from Aadhaar.

Put simply, India Stack could be the framework for a new digital society.

A Cashless World Made Possible

Now, back to the biggest Indian news story of the past year, Prime Minister Modi’s cash ban.

Modi’s move to demonetize the country was viewed as an isolated event. However, it was the action that forced everyone into the new digital system.

Since Aadhaar was launched, 270 million bank accounts have been opened in India.

A 2015 report from MasterCard found that India was one of the countries least ready to transition to a digital payment system.

Yet, 12 months later such a system was rolled out.

If the transition to a digital society can happen in India, where just 2% of transactions were non-cash a few years ago, it can happen anywhere.

India Stack could fast-track the move to digital payment systems across the developed world and mark the end of cash.

For astute investors, there are also huge investment opportunities in this revolution."
 

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http://www.euronews.com/2018/02/09/belgium-is-slowly-sterilising-all-its-cats
The Belgian government has no plans to directly audit citizens’ compliance with the feline population control measures. However, owners will be required to plant an electronic chip in their pets, which will act as a digital register for veterinarians through a centralised data network called CatID.

“Since registration and identification is mandatory for the whole country, sterilisation can be certified through the database,” Debaets said.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/19/cashless-society-con-big-finance-banks-closing-atms

All over the western world banks are shutting down cash machines and branches. They are trying to push you into using their digital payments and digital banking infrastructure. Just like Google wants everyone to access and navigate the broader internet via its privately controlled search portal, so financial institutions want everyone to access and navigate the broader economy through their systems.

Another aim is to cut costs in order to boost profits. Branches require staff. Replacing them with standardised self-service apps allows the senior managers of financial institutions to directly control and monitor interactions with customers.

Banks, of course, tell us a different story about why they do this. I recently got a letter from my bank telling me that they are shutting down local branches because “customers are turning to digital”, and they are thus “responding to changing customer preferences”. I am one of the customers they are referring to, but I never asked them to shut down the branches.

There is a feedback loop going on here. In closing down their branches, or withdrawing their cash machines, they make it harder for me to use those services. I am much more likely to “choose” a digital option if the banks deliberately make it harder for me to choose a non-digital option.

In behavioural economics this is referred to as “nudging”. If a powerful institution wants to make people choose a certain thing, the best strategy is to make it difficult to choose the alternative.

We can illustrate this with the example of self-checkout tills at supermarkets. The underlying agenda is to replace checkout staff with self-service machines to cut costs. But supermarkets have to convince their customers. They thus initially present self-checkout as a convenient alternative. When some people then use that alternative, the supermarket can cite that as evidence of a change in customer behaviour, which they then use to justify a reduction in checkout employees. This in turn makes it more inconvenient to use the checkout staff, which in turn makes customers more likely to use the machines. They slowly wean you off staff, and “nudge” you towards self-service.

Financial institutions, likewise, are trying to nudge us towards a cashless society and digital banking. The true motive is corporate profit. Payments companies such as Visa and Mastercard want to increase the volume of digital payments services they sell, while banks want to cut costs. The nudge requires two parts. First, they must increase the inconvenience of cash, ATMs and branches. Second, they must vigorously promote the alternative. They seek to make people “learn” that they want digital, and then “choose” it.

We can learn from the Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci in this regard. His concept of hegemony referred to the way in which powerful parties condition the cultural and economic environment in such a way that their interests begin to be perceived as natural and inevitable by the general public. Nobody was on the streets shouting for digital payment 20 years ago, but increasingly it seems obvious and “natural” that it should take over. That belief does not come from nowhere. It is the direct result of a hegemonic project on the part of financial institutions.

We can also learn from Louis Althusser’s concept of interpellation. The basic idea is that you can get people to internalise beliefs by addressing them as if they already had those beliefs. Twenty years ago nobody believed that cash was “inconvenient”, but every time I walk into London Underground I see adverts that address me as if I was a person who finds cash inconvenient. The objective is to reverse-engineer a belief within me that it is inconvenient, and that cashlessness is in my interests. But a cashless society is not in your interest. It is in the interest of banks and payments companies. Their job is to make you believe that it is in your interest too, and they are succeeding in doing that.

The recent Visa chaos, during which millions of people who have become dependent on digital payment suddenly found themselves stranded when the monopolistic payment network crashed, was a temporary setback. Digital systems may be “convenient”, but they often come with central points of failure. Cash, on the other hand, does not crash. It does not rely on external data centres, and is not subject to remote control or remote monitoring. The cash system allows for an unmonitored “off the grid” space. This is also the reason why financial institutions and financial technology companies want to get rid of it. Cash transactions are outside the net that such institutions cast to harvest fees and data.

A cashless society brings dangers. People without bank accounts will find themselves further marginalised, disenfranchised from the cash infrastructure that previously supported them. There are also poorly understood psychological implications about cash encouraging self-control while paying by card or a mobile phone can encourage spending. And a cashless society has major surveillance implications.

Despite this, we see an alignment between government and financial institutions. The Treasury recently held a public consultation on cash and digital payments in the new economy. It presented itself as attempting to strike a balance, noting that cash was still important. But years of subtle lobbying by the financial industry have clearly paid off. The call for evidence repeatedly notes the negative elements of cash – associating it with crime and tax evasion – but barely mentions the negative implications of digital payments.

The UK government has chosen to champion the digital financial services industry. This is irresponsible and disingenuous. We need to stop accepting stories about the cashless society and hyper-digital banking being “natural progress”. We must recognise every cash machine that is shut down as another step in financial institutions’ campaign to nudge you into their digital enclosures.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/19/cashless-society-con-big-finance-banks-closing-atms

All over the western world banks are shutting down cash machinesand branches. They are trying to push you into using their digital payments and digital banking infrastructure. Just like Google wants everyone to access and navigate the broader internet via its privately controlled search portal, so financial institutions want everyone to access and navigate the broader economy through their systems.

Another aim is to cut costs in order to boost profits. Branches require staff. Replacing them with standardised self-service apps allows the senior managers of financial institutions to directly control and monitor interactions with customers.

Banks, of course, tell us a different story about why they do this. I recently got a letter from my bank telling me that they are shutting down local branches because “customers are turning to digital”, and they are thus “responding to changing customer preferences”. I am one of the customers they are referring to, but I never asked them to shut down the branches.

There is a feedback loop going on here. In closing down their branches, or withdrawing their cash machines, they make it harder for me to use those services. I am much more likely to “choose” a digital option if the banks deliberately make it harder for me to choose a non-digital option.

In behavioural economics this is referred to as “nudging”. If a powerful institution wants to make people choose a certain thing, the best strategy is to make it difficult to choose the alternative.

We can illustrate this with the example of self-checkout tills at supermarkets. The underlying agenda is to replace checkout staff with self-service machines to cut costs. But supermarkets have to convince their customers. They thus initially present self-checkout as a convenient alternative. When some people then use that alternative, the supermarket can cite that as evidence of a change in customer behaviour, which they then use to justify a reduction in checkout employees. This in turn makes it more inconvenient to use the checkout staff, which in turn makes customers more likely to use the machines. They slowly wean you off staff, and “nudge” you towards self-service.

Financial institutions, likewise, are trying to nudge us towards a cashless society and digital banking. The true motive is corporate profit. Payments companies such as Visa and Mastercard want to increase the volume of digital payments services they sell, while banks want to cut costs. The nudge requires two parts. First, they must increase the inconvenience of cash, ATMs and branches. Second, they must vigorously promote the alternative. They seek to make people “learn” that they want digital, and then “choose” it.

We can learn from the Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci in this regard. His concept of hegemony referred to the way in which powerful parties condition the cultural and economic environment in such a way that their interests begin to be perceived as natural and inevitable by the general public. Nobody was on the streets shouting for digital payment 20 years ago, but increasingly it seems obvious and “natural” that it should take over. That belief does not come from nowhere. It is the direct result of a hegemonic project on the part of financial institutions.

We can also learn from Louis Althusser’s concept of interpellation. The basic idea is that you can get people to internalise beliefs by addressing them as if they already had those beliefs. Twenty years ago nobody believed that cash was “inconvenient”, but every time I walk into London Underground I see adverts that address me as if I was a person who finds cash inconvenient. The objective is to reverse-engineer a belief within me that it is inconvenient, and that cashlessness is in my interests. But a cashless society is not in your interest. It is in the interest of banks and payments companies. Their job is to make you believe that it is in your interest too, and they are succeeding in doing that.

The recent Visa chaos, during which millions of people who have become dependent on digital payment suddenly found themselves stranded when the monopolistic payment network crashed, was a temporary setback. Digital systems may be “convenient”, but they often come with central points of failure. Cash, on the other hand, does not crash. It does not rely on external data centres, and is not subject to remote control or remote monitoring. The cash system allows for an unmonitored “off the grid” space. This is also the reason why financial institutions and financial technology companies want to get rid of it. Cash transactions are outside the net that such institutions cast to harvest fees and data.

A cashless society brings dangers. People without bank accounts will find themselves further marginalised, disenfranchised from the cash infrastructure that previously supported them. There are also poorly understood psychological implications about cash encouraging self-control while paying by card or a mobile phone can encourage spending. And a cashless society has major surveillance implications.

Despite this, we see an alignment between government and financial institutions. The Treasury recently held a public consultation on cash and digital payments in the new economy. It presented itself as attempting to strike a balance, noting that cash was still important. But years of subtle lobbying by the financial industry have clearly paid off. The call for evidence repeatedly notes the negative elements of cash – associating it with crime and tax evasion – but barely mentions the negative implications of digital payments.

The UK government has chosen to champion the digital financial services industry. This is irresponsible and disingenuous. We need to stop accepting stories about the cashless society and hyper-digital banking being “natural progress”. We must recognise every cash machine that is shut down as another step in financial institutions’ campaign to nudge you into their digital enclosures.
I am one of the customers they are referring to, but I never asked them to shut down the branches.
This line is scary. The whole cashless society is scary and a real totalitarian dream come true.
One of the reasons why corporate capitalism should not have so much power to decide what they can do in order to profit and how government should not let technology to influence the way they rule over citizens. But is there any way we can do anything about this ?
 
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I'm kinda scared being part of the credit system now.
I'm not just scared, I'm genuinely scared with small hope that one day the public can overcome this. I hope more of us will be awaken and stay awake so that we can actually do something on the things that aren't supposed to endanger our freedom. We are humans, not just some statistics for the elite's profit !
 

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This is not the "mark of the beast." It's not a microchip either...this is what the verse actually says:

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev. 20:4

So it must be some kind of engraving or tatoo:

"Every time the word "mark" appears in the book of Revelation, it is the Greek word charagma. It is NEVER the Greek word stigma. Not in any manuscripts.
charagma: a scratch or etching, i.e. stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): — graven, mark (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance)
charagma denotes "a stamp, impress," translated "mark" in Rev. 13:16, etc. (Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)​

Charagma is very strong evidence for a simply a "mark" or "stamp", rather than a micro-chip implant.


Other reasons why the mark is not an implanted computer chip:

  1. The main argument for the chip is it’s ability to control the "buying and selling" of Rev 13:17. But that is NOT the main purpose of the mark. According to Rev. 14:10 and Rev. 19:20, whoever receives the mark "shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God… be tormented with fire and brimstone… their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever". God is not going to torment someone with fire and brimestone just because they buy or sell! The requirement for receiving the mark is worship of the beast or his image:
    "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark. . . " Rev. 14:9
    ". . . who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark. . . " Rev. 14:11
    " . . .which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image." Rev. 16:2
    " . . . them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. . ." Rev. 19:20
    " . . . which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his . . ." Rev. 20:4​
  2. Most people that teach the mark is the chip over-emphasis the "buying and selling" aspect of the mark. In fact, it's so prevalent, I've had many people write me afraid to take a credit card, smart card, or even a vaccine.
  3. Because of the lack of "skin-stretch", two of the worse places to implant a chip is the hand and especially the forehead. The smallest chip today is approximately the size of a grain of rice, way too large to implant in a forehead.
  4. As we mentioned earlier, the mark is associated or representative or symbolic of the beast and his name. A chip is a non-personal, generic, piece of material. Probably even invisible. Notice how the mark is personally associated or representative of the beast or antichrist:
    Rev 14:9 "his mark"
    Rev 14:11 "mark of his name"
    Rev 15:2 "his mark"
    Rev 16:2 "the mark of the beast"
    Rev 19:20 "the mark of the beast"
    Rev 20:4 "his mark"
    Three times (14:9, 15:2, 20:4) it’s called "HIS mark".
    Two times (16:2, 19:20) it’s called "the mark OF THE BEAST"
    One time (14:11) it’s called "the mark of HIS Name"​
  5. As we looked at earlier, the mark is connected to the beast name and the number 666. A chip is neither.
  6. According to the "authorities" a chip implant would contain your financial world, medical history, health care — it would be your life. In order for a chip to be security-effective, it would have to be located randomly in the body. If there was no longer cash; if the world’s economy transactions were only chip oriented; — and the chip's locations is known – there would be a huge "black-market" for chips! Since there is no cash, no other bartering system, criminals would cutting off hands and heads, stealing "rich-folks" chips. How would like to borrow" Bill Gates chip for a few days?
Terry Waite, the Anglican Church envoy who spent five years as a hostage in Beirut, sounded a similar alarm concerning biochip implants:
"It is very dangerous because once kidnappers get to know about these things, they will skin you alive to find them," (New York Times, June 20, 1999)"​

http://www.av1611.org/666/whatis.html
 

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This is not the "mark of the beast." It's not a microchip either...this is what the verse actually says:

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev. 20:4

So it must be some kind of engraving or tatoo:

"Every time the word "mark" appears in the book of Revelation, it is the Greek word charagma. It is NEVER the Greek word stigma. Not in any manuscripts.
charagma: a scratch or etching, i.e. stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): — graven, mark (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance)​

charagma denotes "a stamp, impress," translated "mark" in Rev. 13:16, etc. (Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)​

Charagma is very strong evidence for a simply a "mark" or "stamp", rather than a micro-chip implant.


Other reasons why the mark is not an implanted computer chip:

  1. The main argument for the chip is it’s ability to control the "buying and selling" of Rev 13:17. But that is NOT the main purpose of the mark. According to Rev. 14:10 and Rev. 19:20, whoever receives the mark "shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God… be tormented with fire and brimstone… their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever". God is not going to torment someone with fire and brimestone just because they buy or sell! The requirement for receiving the mark is worship of the beast or his image:
    "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark. . . " Rev. 14:9
    ". . . who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark. . . " Rev. 14:11
    " . . .which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image." Rev. 16:2
    " . . . them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. . ." Rev. 19:20
    " . . . which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his . . ." Rev. 20:4​
  2. Most people that teach the mark is the chip over-emphasis the "buying and selling" aspect of the mark. In fact, it's so prevalent, I've had many people write me afraid to take a credit card, smart card, or even a vaccine.
  3. Because of the lack of "skin-stretch", two of the worse places to implant a chip is the hand and especially the forehead. The smallest chip today is approximately the size of a grain of rice, way too large to implant in a forehead.
  4. As we mentioned earlier, the mark is associated or representative or symbolic of the beast and his name. A chip is a non-personal, generic, piece of material. Probably even invisible. Notice how the mark is personally associated or representative of the beast or antichrist:
    Rev 14:9 "his mark"
    Rev 14:11 "mark of his name"
    Rev 15:2 "his mark"
    Rev 16:2 "the mark of the beast"
    Rev 19:20 "the mark of the beast"
    Rev 20:4 "his mark"
    Three times (14:9, 15:2, 20:4) it’s called "HIS mark".
    Two times (16:2, 19:20) it’s called "the mark OF THE BEAST"
    One time (14:11) it’s called "the mark of HIS Name"​
  5. As we looked at earlier, the mark is connected to the beast name and the number 666. A chip is neither.
  6. According to the "authorities" a chip implant would contain your financial world, medical history, health care — it would be your life. In order for a chip to be security-effective, it would have to be located randomly in the body. If there was no longer cash; if the world’s economy transactions were only chip oriented; — and the chip's locations is known – there would be a huge "black-market" for chips! Since there is no cash, no other bartering system, criminals would cutting off hands and heads, stealing "rich-folks" chips. How would like to borrow" Bill Gates chip for a few days?

Terry Waite, the Anglican Church envoy who spent five years as a hostage in Beirut, sounded a similar alarm concerning biochip implants:​

"It is very dangerous because once kidnappers get to know about these things, they will skin you alive to find them," (New York Times, June 20, 1999)"​

http://www.av1611.org/666/whatis.html
I wonder...

What if the ultimate "mark" chip (if it were a indeed chip) were designed to only work with your signature DNA. I suspect that if things developed in that direction there would be a convergence between computer and biotechnology. Who knows?
 

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I wonder...

What if the ultimate "mark" chip (if it were a indeed chip) were designed to only work with your signature DNA. I suspect that if things developed in that direction there would be a convergence between computer and biotechnology. Who knows?
Could be but I highly doubt it.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/11/alarm-over-talks-to-implant-uk-employees-with-microchips
Britain’s biggest employer organisation and main trade union body have sounded the alarm over the prospect of British companies implanting staff with microchips to improve security.

UK firm BioTeq, which offers the implants to businesses and individuals, has already fitted 150 implants in the UK.

The tiny chips, implanted in the flesh between the thumb and forefinger, are similar to those for pets. They enable people to open their front door, access their office or start their car with a wave of their hand, and can also store medical data.

Another company, Biohax of Sweden, also provides human chip implants the size of a grain of rice. It told the Sunday Telegraph (£) that it is in discussions with several British legal and financial firms about fitting their employees with microchips, including one major company with hundreds of thousands of employees.

The CBI, which represents 190,000 UK businesses, voiced concerns about the prospect.

A CBI spokesperson said: “While technology is changing the way we work, this makes for distinctly uncomfortable reading. Firms should be concentrating on rather more immediate priorities and focusing on engaging their employees.”

The TUC is worried that staff could be coerced into being microchipped. Its general secretary Frances O’Grady said: “We know workers are already concerned that some employers are using tech to control and micromanage, whittling away their staff’s right to privacy.

“Microchipping would give bosses even more power and control over their workers. There are obvious risks involved, and employers must not brush them aside, or pressure staff into being chipped.”

Steven Northam, the founder and owner of Hampshire-based BioTeq, told the Guardian that most of its 150 implants have been for individuals, while some financial and engineering firms have also had the chips implanted in their staff.

BioTeq has also implanted them in employees of a bank testing the technology, and has shipped them to Spain, France, Germany, Japan and China.

They cost between £70 and £260 per person. Northam himself and all the directors at BioTeq and one of his other companies, IncuHive, have been microchipped.

Jowan Österlund, the founder of Biohax and a former body piercer, told the Telegraph that his microchips, which cost £150 each, could help financial and legal firms improve security. “These companies have sensitive documents they are dealing with. [The chips] would allow them to set restrictions for whoever.”

Österlund said big companies, with 200,000 employees, could offer this as an opt-in. “If you have a 15% uptake that is still a huge number of people that won’t require a physical ID pass.”

Last year Wisconsin-based Three Square Market partnered with Biohax and became the first company in the US to microchip its employees, on a voluntary basis.

KPMG, one of the big four accountancy firms, said it was not planning to microchip its employees and “would under no circumstances consider doing so”.

Fellow accounting firms EY and PwC also said they would not consider microchipping their employees. Deloitte declined to comment.

Biohax has plans to open an office in London, according to its website. It claims 4,000 people have been microchipped, mostly in Sweden. It is working with the state-owned Swedish rail firm Statens Järnvägar, to allow its passengers to travel via chip implants rather than train tickets. Biohax did not respond to requests for comment.
 
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