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- A person can be suffocated without leaving bruises.
- George Floyd isn't on trial
- More irrelevant victim blaming
- You don't need to restrain someone falling asleep
- A person can't be asleep and be yelling over and over again
- Monitoring the person you are abusing doesn't make abuse ok
- If the cops called an ambulance they knew it was a health emergency, and Floyd posed little threat.
- What the crowd was doing is irrelevant

Now that some of your contradictory statements and red herrings have been addressed. I would further add, that cases are decided by emotions all the damn time. But I don't think this is one of those cases. The evidence is clear that the cops here had little regard for Floyd's safety, and little regard for the public they are supposed to serve.
-He had no damage to the trachea, no burst blood vessels, no damage to any part of his neck in any degree, area or capacity. This is because from the other perspectives, Chauvin isn't even on his neck, he's on his shoulder and back
-George Floyd being on the lethal doses of multiple drugs is part of the trial, especially when he was hospitalized for 5 days the month prior for taking the same drugs, and his girlfriend told the prosecution when she took them she "felt like she was going to die"
-You do need to restrain someone whos franticly resisting arrest and throwing themselves onto the road
-You can yell over and over again and then fall asleep
-Arresting someone isnt abusing them
-you clearly know nothing about the case, those two statements have nothing to do with each other, it can be a health emergency and the person can also pose a threat
-No its not.

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-He had no damage to the trachea, no burst blood vessels, no damage to any part of his neck in any degree, area or capacity. This is because from the other perspectives, Chauvin isn't even on his neck, he's on his shoulder and back
-George Floyd being on the lethal doses of multiple drugs is part of the trial, especially when he was hospitalized for 5 days the month prior for taking the same drugs, and his girlfriend told the prosecution when she took them she "felt like she was going to die"
-You do need to restrain someone whos franticly resisting arrest and throwing themselves onto the road
-You can yell over and over again and then fall asleep
-Arresting someone isnt abusing them
-you clearly know nothing about the case, those two statements have nothing to do with each other, it can be a health emergency and the person can also pose a threat
-No its not.

really weak points dude.
- I already stated, a person can suffocate without getting bruised
- Even more of a reason to treat it as a medical emergency, not a threat
- A person can't be frantically resisting arrest and falling asleep. In other words, get your story straight
- Derek Chauvin's supervising officer testified today that when Floyd went unconscious, normal protocol is to uncuff him and definitely stop pinning him to the ground.
- Lol what?
- The first EMT on the scene testified today that any layperson could have performed chest compressions on George Floyd. None of the cops did that. More importantly, they didn't put him in the recovery position. That is called abuse my man.
- Riiight. There were like 5 cops on the scene with guns vs 1 fatally doped up George Floyd, such a huge threat!
- How the fuck is the crowd on trial now?

Even someone like me, who has had very little first aid training knows about the recovery position. So the fact that the cops literally let him lay there and die shows a willful disregard for his well-being. And that's why the jury will have no choice but to return a guilty verdict.
 






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- I already stated, a person can suffocate without getting bruised
- Even more of a reason to treat it as a medical emergency, not a threat
- A person can't be frantically resisting arrest and falling asleep. In other words, get your story straight
- Derek Chauvin's supervising officer testified today that when Floyd went unconscious, normal protocol is to uncuff him and definitely stop pinning him to the ground.
- Lol what?
- The first EMT on the scene testified today that any layperson could have performed chest compressions on George Floyd. None of the cops did that. More importantly, they didn't put him in the recovery position. That is called abuse my man.
- Riiight. There were like 5 cops on the scene with guns vs 1 fatally doped up George Floyd, such a huge threat!
- How the fuck is the crowd on trial now?

Even someone like me, who has had very little first aid training knows about the recovery position. So the fact that the cops literally let him lay there and die shows a willful disregard for his well-being. And that's why the jury will have no choice but to return a guilty verdict.
-can you suffocate without any medical signs of asphyxiation? Because that’s what happened. No mention of it on the medical examiners report
-if the knee was on his neck, there would have been some form of even superficial damage. There wasnt
-You don’t treat an enormous methhead screaming, fighting, rolling out of a car into traffic and resisting arrest as a medical emergency, you treat it as a threat
-and then that officer testified that outside of that one aspect, the officers acted rightly restraining him until the ambulance got there.
-they called an ambulance long before he was even on the ground.
-“cops with guns“ you would’ve preferred they used their guns?
-the crowd is a part of the trial. It’s funny, like the prosecution, you only want to focus on the single aspect of the situation, which is the video that you saw from one angle and were told to be sad about. The fact that it took place within a greater situation, that things happened before, during, and after, that you weren’t aware of, and from perspectives you haven’t seen, you want to write off or count as insignificant.

some other highlights from today:

-when george Floyd was calling out for “mama“ he was calling out for his side piece, who drove him to the hospital when he overdosed the month prior and did pills with him and he called mama.
-paramedics were able to take George’s pulse on his neck while the cop was restraining him, further proving that he wasn’t on his neck.
-the prosecutors brought in the police supervisor but testimony was objected, because he wasnt the one that reviewed the evidence, other than what the prosecution showed him, and they were only able to ask a couple questions before the judge stopped them. The defense cross examined and had him confirm that virtually everything the officers did was justified and nessessary given the circumstance.
-the paramedics testified that to revive Floyd was a labor intensive job, and with two of them and a police officer in the ambulance, they also needed to call fire for help.. they also testified that they couldn’t work on him on scene due to the hostile crowd and had to take him to another block

basically, the prosecution looked like the defense
 






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FENTANYL

The recommended serum level for PAIN CONTROL is 1-2 ng/mL. (1)

The serum level used for anesthesia is 10-20 ng/mL. (1) Anesthesia without a ventilator will result in death.

Notably, the average serum level found in over 280 fentanyl overdose fatalities was 11 to 13 ng/mL (2). These people essentially anesthetized themselves without a ventilator.

George Floyd's serum level of fentanyl was 11 ng/mL (3).

1 https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/fentanyl_en

2https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2018.01210/full

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Furthermore, along with being on 3x the lethal dose of fentynol, 11ng, he was also on 5ng of norfentynol, which is 100x stronger than fentynol. You can overdose from simply touching norfentynol and it has to be handled with gloves. So this puts him WAY over the average lethal dose. You can do the math. Along with 19ng of meth, and other substances.

so basically the only way he could’ve been saved is if chauvin drove him to a hospital the moment they got to the car (which they couldn’t get him into) and put him on a ventilator. Sadly, becauae the pills were mixed with meth, and he wasn’t a regular meth user, they sent him into a hyper state of delerium, as evidenced in the video footage
 






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Want justice for George Floyd? According to the Minnesota state law, the dope dealer is guilty of murder in the 3rd degree.
Meet the man responsible for the death of George Floyd, Morries Lester Hall.
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>Provided George with the counterfeit $20 bill. The cashier confirmed that Hall had been in the store earlier that day trying to use the counterfeits
>Was selling opioids to George as confirmed by “momma”, for the past few months
>sold pressed pills of fentynol mixed with meth. Already had sent Floyd to the hospital for a 5 day stay.
>Floyd’s girlfriend said she tried them but they”made her feel like she was going to die”
>Had felony warrants out for his arrest on firearm possession, domestic assault and drug possession
>Gave the cops a fake name
>Fled to Houston only to be arrested later and brought back to Minnesota
>Says he will not testify in court by pleading the 5th
 






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-can you suffocate without any medical signs of asphyxiation? Because that’s what happened. No mention of it on the medical examiners report
-if the knee was on his neck, there would have been some form of even superficial damage. There wasnt
-You don’t treat an enormous methhead screaming, fighting, rolling out of a car into traffic and resisting arrest as a medical emergency, you treat it as a threat
-and then that officer testified that outside of that one aspect, the officers acted rightly restraining him until the ambulance got there.
-they called an ambulance long before he was even on the ground.
-“cops with guns“ you would’ve preferred they used their guns?
-the crowd is a part of the trial. It’s funny, like the prosecution, you only want to focus on the single aspect of the situation, which is the video that you saw from one angle and were told to be sad about. The fact that it took place within a greater situation, that things happened before, during, and after, that you weren’t aware of, and from perspectives you haven’t seen, you want to write off or count as insignificant.

some other highlights from today:

-when george Floyd was calling out for “mama“ he was calling out for his side piece, who drove him to the hospital when he overdosed the month prior and did pills with him and he called mama.
-paramedics were able to take George’s pulse on his neck while the cop was restraining him, further proving that he wasn’t on his neck.
-the prosecutors brought in the police supervisor but testimony was objected, because he wasnt the one that reviewed the evidence, other than what the prosecution showed him, and they were only able to ask a couple questions before the judge stopped them. The defense cross examined and had him confirm that virtually everything the officers did was justified and nessessary given the circumstance.
-the paramedics testified that to revive Floyd was a labor intensive job, and with two of them and a police officer in the ambulance, they also needed to call fire for help.. they also testified that they couldn’t work on him on scene due to the hostile crowd and had to take him to another block

basically, the prosecution looked like the defense
You are dancing with an awful lot of irrelevancy here. It's like, you don't even know basic biology. Yes, you can suffocate without signs of trauma. It's called your body needs a certain level of oxygen, without that oxygen, you die. The human brain also needs proper blood circulation, without that circulation, you die.

Nobody is denying Floyd had an underlying health condition (drug abuse). The argument is the police knew he was having a medical emergency, and didn't handle it as they should have. More importantly, your blatant contradictions and misleading statements don't refute that at all. In fact, you are only reinforcing the idea that the cops were heavy-handed with a man on fatal doses of drugs.

I suggest you do some research before you spout off about things you know nothing about. When you ingest drugs they have to be absorbed by your gut, which takes like 20 minutes to peak. So the idea that Floyd ate a bunch of Meth and was dangerous is total bullshit. It's funny how you switched your story, though. Because a guy falling asleep doesn't fit the narrative.
 






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You are dancing with an awful lot of irrelevancy here. It's like, you don't even know basic biology. Yes, you can suffocate without signs of trauma. It's called your body needs a certain level of oxygen, without that oxygen, you die. The human brain also needs proper blood circulation, without that circulation, you die.

Nobody is denying Floyd had an underlying health condition (drug abuse). The argument is the police knew he was having a medical emergency, and didn't handle it as they should have. More importantly, your blatant contradictions and misleading statements don't refute that at all. In fact, you are only reinforcing the idea that the cops were heavy-handed with a man on fatal doses of drugs.

I suggest you do some research before you spout off about things you know nothing about. When you ingest drugs they have to be absorbed by your gut, which takes like 20 minutes to peak. So the idea that Floyd ate a bunch of Meth and was dangerous is total bullshit. It's funny how you switched your story, though. Because a guy falling asleep doesn't fit the narrative.
so you haven’t seen the rest of the evidence, clearly. you made an assumption and are sticking to it, and will even argue to defend it. That’s funny.

Floyds underlying condition wasn’t drug abuse actually. It was severe arteriosclerosic heart disease and hypertension. He had no life threatening injuries, and had enough drugs in his system to kill him a few hundred times. Just to update you, because you made it clear that you haven’t looked at any evidence with your post.

The idea that Floyd ate a bunch of pills and was a threat isn’t total bullshit. It’s literally what happened, and has been testified to already by people he knew, they found the pills chewed up with his DNA on them in the car, and he even had a pill in his mouth on the officers body cam. You’re literally just guessing what you think happened, based on not seeing the evidence, most of what you’re saying isn’t even being argued in court because it’s simply wrong. Also he did eat the pills roughly 20+ minutes before he became unresponsive, so thanks for proving that I guess
 






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Career criminal Floyd was so pumped on drugs and violently refusing to get in the car no wonder his heart gave out, look at the trail of pee which is a symptom of a heart attack-


 






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This is a long post and only a section of it deals with George Floyd, but it's an interesting take on it:


Tldr? There's a lot of very odd things about this entire incident and there's what looks like the signals of an op in the video released. It's possible this was a deliberate action to manipulate us into a particular reaction.
 






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so you haven’t seen the rest of the evidence, clearly. you made an assumption and are sticking to it, and will even argue to defend it. That’s funny.

Floyds underlying condition wasn’t drug abuse actually. It was severe arteriosclerosic heart disease and hypertension. He had no life threatening injuries, and had enough drugs in his system to kill him a few hundred times. Just to update you, because you made it clear that you haven’t looked at any evidence with your post.

The idea that Floyd ate a bunch of pills and was a threat isn’t total bullshit. It’s literally what happened, and has been testified to already by people he knew, they found the pills chewed up with his DNA on them in the car, and he even had a pill in his mouth on the officers body cam. You’re literally just guessing what you think happened, based on not seeing the evidence, most of what you’re saying isn’t even being argued in court because it’s simply wrong. Also he did eat the pills roughly 20+ minutes before he became unresponsive, so thanks for proving that I guess
I never said I've seen all the evidence. And I'm confused as to what assumption you think I've made. The guy had multiple health problems, which you have confirmed and elaborated on. So again, what's wrong with expecting cops to handle a medical emergency with more care? I'm pretty sure that's part of their job.

Also, I didn't call anything total bullshit, I was saying there are holes in the logic. I think we can both agree that at a certain point, Floyd was no longer a threat, he was a dying man. As such, the use of force becomes unnecessary, and more life-saving measures should have been taken.

Look I'm not the prosecutor, nor on the jury. I don't know what I would charge Chauvin with if anything. But I know the cops in the situation were at least negligent.
 






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I never said I've seen all the evidence. And I'm confused as to what assumption you think I've made. The guy had multiple health problems, which you have confirmed and elaborated on. So again, what's wrong with expecting cops to handle a medical emergency with more care? I'm pretty sure that's part of their job.

Also, I didn't call anything total bullshit, I was saying there are holes in the logic. I think we can both agree that at a certain point, Floyd was no longer a threat, he was a dying man. As such, the use of force becomes unnecessary, and more life-saving measures should have been taken.

Look I'm not the prosecutor, nor on the jury. I don't know what I would charge Chauvin with if anything. But I know the cops in the situation were at least negligent.
The evidence I don’t think you have seen is, for a start, the body cam footage of the police officers, showing the situation in its entirety. You didn’t hear the conversations the officers were having with each other during the encounter. The medical examiners report would be another good piece to look at, but I shared the relevant parts.

I don’t agree they were negligent. They had a person who started screaming and acting erratically from the moment they knocked on his window. Asking his friends, they say he was crazy, made motions with their hand pointing around their ears, and said he had big problems. Floyd continued yelling and fighting the officers until asking to be laid on the ground. The officers had already called an ambulance at this point. They said to each other that they thought he was on PCP because his eyes were vibrating and they were worried about “excited delirum”. He was being restrained until the ambulance got there, because he was a danger to himself, as well as others. He wanted to lay down on a busy road etc.

now let me ask, given that the restraint did no injury to him, why should they have released him before the ambulance got there and he was strapped to a stretcher? Are you aware that when someone awakens from an unconscious state on drugs, they can act extremely violently? He was just laying on the road, with an officers knee securing his shoulder, with the knee above his neck to stop his head from bucking, as he was doing before. The officers monitored his breathing and his pulse the entire time he was on the ground, so what more could they do for him until the ambulance got there?

i have to say I find it strange that people want this trial to be a killing by cop. Death by cop is an awful thing. prople should be relieved it was just an unfortunate incident with a drug addict, his life couldnt have been saved by anyone unless he was in a hospital on a ventilator, taking that amount of fentynol, your body shuts down, you are not longer able to breath for yourself, it is meant to be taken in a clinical environment where a machine can breath for you.Again, if people want justice for that man, they should have the dope dealer and where he got the fent from strung up, that stuff is too dangerous to be on the streets.
 






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The evidence I don’t think you have seen is, as the most basic, the body cam footage of the police officers, showing the situation in its entirety. You didn’t hear the conversations the officers were having with each other during the encounter. The medical examiners report would be another good piece to look at, but I shared the relevant parts.

I don’t agree they were negligent. They had a person who started screaming and acting erratically from the moment they knocked on his window. Asking his friends, they say he was crazy, made motions with their hand pointing around their ears, and said he had big problems. Floyd continued yelling and fighting the officers until asking to be laid on the ground. The officers had already called an ambulance at this point. They said to each other that they thought he was on PCP because his eyes were vibrating and they were worried about “excited delirum”. He was being restrained until the ambulance got there, because he was a danger to himself, as well as the crowd. He wanted to lay down on a busy road etc.

now let me ask, given that the restraint did no injury to him, why should they have released him before the ambulance got there and he was strapped to a stretcher? Are you aware that when someone awakens from an unconscious state on drugs, they can act extremely violently? He was just laying on the road, with an officers knee securing his shoulder, with the knee above his neck to stop his head from bucking, as he was doing before. The officers monitored his breathing and his pulse the entire time he was on the ground, so what more could they do for him until the ambulance got there?

i have to say I find it strange that people want this trial to be a killing by cop. Death by cop is an awful thing. prople should be relieved it was just an unfortunate incident with a drug addict, his life couldnt have been saved by anyone unless he was in a hospital on a ventilator, taking that amount of fentynol, your body shuts down, you are not longer able to breath for yourself, it is meant to be taken in a clinical environment where a machine can breath for you.Again, if people want justice for that man, they should have the dope dealer and where he got the fent from strung up, that stuff is too dangerous to be on the streets.
I've seen the body cam footage, but there's no debate that Floyd was acting erratically.

Dr. Baden's private autopsy concluded Floyd died of mechanical asphyxia and the manner of death was homicide. I'm not going to go over the whole thing, though. Clearly, there are conflicting reports from the medical examiners. So I consider that a wash, or an impasse.

If letting someone die is not negligent Idk what is. As I stated before, the first EMT on the scene thought Floyd was already dead. None of the cops did chest compressions or put him in the recovery position. So they at least could have done better. They could have tried to act like they gave a shit. They also all got fired, which says a lot because cops hardly ever get fired.

The only time I went unconscious (from heatstroke) I woke up ready to punch someone. In other words, I get it. But that's a risk a person has to take. The dude who slapped me around to wake me up didn't pin me to the ground first, because that would have been stupid. He took the risk because he cared about my well-being.

I've done Fentanyl before, and don't believe all the hype. It's an awful drug, however, it shouldn't put down an addict with high tolerance like Floyd. More importantly, I think the toxicology report is misleading. Let's consider alcohol tolerance for example. One person can get drunk off 1 shot, and another person can take 20 shots. That's a huge ass difference that doesn't get examined by toxicology.
 






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Dr. Baden's private autopsy concluded Floyd died of mechanical asphyxia and the manner of death was homicide. I'm not going to go over the whole thing, though. Clearly, there are conflicting reports from the medical examiners
That autopsy isn’t able to be admitted as evidence. He did the “autopsy” hired by the family by viewing the video, he never had access to the body or ran any reports on the serums.
If letting someone die is not negligent Idk what is. As I stated before, the first EMT on the scene thought Floyd was already dead. None of the cops did chest compressions or put him in the recovery position
their primary job is to secure the safety of the situation until the medics arrived who were on their way. Would it be practical for them to roll a dude over who they could barely restrain while on a busy road with a hostile crowd and wake him up, when he’s going to run into traffic in a violent delerium? Furthermore, rolling someone onto their back when they are ODing is the worst thing you can do, because there is a danger they will choke on their vomit, or choke on their tongue. With a muscle relaxant like fent, choking on your tongue becomes highly likely.

the ambulance drivers testified that they are chemically equipped to awaken someone from an OD, meaning they can anesthetize someone who goes into delerium, while the cops have to use restraint

the medics also testified to the prosecution that they couldn’t administer care at the scene due to the hostile environment, and had to load him on the ambulance and drive a few blocks over. So the cops couldn’t have been expected to either
I've done Fentanyl before, and don't believe all the hype. It's an awful drug, however, it shouldn't put down an addict with high tolerance like Floyd.
I personally know probably 10-12 people under the age of 30 who have died from fentynol in the last few years. It’s not hype. it’s a medical anesthetic that stops your diaphragm from expanding and contracting without machine assistance. Norfentynol does the same, but essentially a grain of sand of it will kill you.
More importantly, I think the toxicology report is misleading. Let's consider alcohol tolerance for example. One person can get drunk off 1 shot, and another person can take 20 shots. That's a huge ass difference that doesn't get examined by toxicology.
floyd was an on and off user who had almost died from these pills the month prior, but got to a hospital in time and had to stay for 5 days to recover. Moreover, while he was a opiate user, he was not a meth user, so taking the amount of he thought he could handle, he couldn’t handle that quantity of meth. And again, he wasnt at the threshold. He had enough fent in him to kill him many times over
 






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That autopsy isn’t able to be admitted as evidence. He did the “autopsy” hired by the family by viewing the video, he never had access to the body or ran any reports on the serums.
According to Baden, the type of pressure put on Floyd's body wouldn't be seen at autopsy anyway. He said large areas of scrapes and abrasions on Floyd's face indicated the force that was used to press him into the ground. Baden also said that he could find no underlying conditions that contributed to Floyd's death, saying he was in good health. Those are strange comments to make if he didn't have access to the body. More importantly, why wouldn't he have access to the body? He was hired by the Floyd family.

their primary job is to secure the safety of the situation until the medics arrived who were on their way. Would it be practical for them to roll a dude over who they could barely restrain while on a busy road with a hostile crowd and wake him up, when he’s going to run into traffic in a violent delerium? Furthermore, rolling someone onto their back when they are ODing is the worst thing you can do, because there is a danger they will choke on their vomit, or choke on their tongue. With a muscle relaxant like fent, choking on your tongue becomes highly likely.
The recovery position means rolling them onto their side, so they don't choke on their vomit or tongue. Not their back. I guess you never took a first aid class, but that's ok.

I don't think anyone has a problem with restraining a suspect. Kneeling on them for over 3 minutes when they are unconscious seems like a bad move, though. Especially since he was handcuffed too. They could have sat on his legs or something, not his neck/back.

I personally know probably 10-12 people under the age of 30 who have died from fentynol in the last few years. It’s not hype. it’s a medical anesthetic that stops your diaphragm from expanding and contracting without machine assistance. Norfentynol does the same, but essentially a grain of sand of it will kill you.
I'm sorry to hear that. Isn't Norfentynol a product of fentanyl, though? Maybe I'm missing something. And to clarify I equate powerful opiates in a similar fashion. Meaning, the addicted user builds tolerance so they up the dosage to higher levels. Then for whatever reason, their tolerance goes down, but they continue to try to use at high dosages. Which is how many people end up ODing.

Keep in mind this drug is prescribed to people all the time. So the FDA says it's safe enough (puke).

floyd was an on and off user who had almost died from these pills the month prior, but got to a hospital in time and had to stay for 5 days to recover. Moreover, while he was a opiate user, he was not a meth user, so taking the amount of he thought he could handle, he couldn’t handle that quantity of meth. And again, he wasnt at the threshold. He had enough fent in him to kill him many times over
From what I've heard ingesting Meth is a bad idea period.

The argument that it was an unavoidable tragedy isn't terrible. But we will never know for sure. Ultimately people only care about optics, not the truth, or all sides of the story. The optics are bad for the police in this case, and that isn't Floyd's fault, it's their fault. The "hostile" crowd was hostile because they didn't defuse the situation. Which is pretty much standard for cops these days anyway.
 






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According to Baden, the type of pressure put on Floyd's body wouldn't be seen at autopsy anyway. He said large areas of scrapes and abrasions on Floyd's face indicated the force that was used to press him into the ground. Baden also said that he could find no underlying conditions that contributed to Floyd's death, saying he was in good health. Those are strange comments to make if he didn't have access to the body. More importantly, why wouldn't he have access to the body? He was hired by the Floyd family
I don’t know why. Saying he was in good health pretty much shows that he didn’t though. Floyd’s heart was twice the size of
a normal heart, and one heart artery was 90% blocked, another was 70% blocked, both of which are pretty much fatal. He also had covid, apparently such a deadly virus that we have to not live normal life. While I don’t believe in covid, that’s still a factor of evidence.
The recovery position means rolling them onto their side, so they don't choke on their vomit or tongue. Not their back. I guess you never took a first aid class, but that's ok.
Rolling him on his side wouldn’t have helped him, the only thing the prosecution can argue they should have done, is that they should have started chest compressions, although as I said, that would be dangerous without the ambulance equipment for reasons I stated. I thought that’s what you meant.the ambulance has devices which hold the tongue in place as chest compressions are done.
Isn't Norfentynol a product of fentanyl, though?
norfentynol is a refinement of fentynol to make it stronger. Think, opium is refined into heroin, heroin is refined into morphine, morphine is refined into fentynol, fentynol is refined into norfentynol. It’s so strong that it can’t be given orally or through any means other than a special patch which slowly releases it onto the skin. The fact that Floyd had 5 ng/ml in his bloodstream is insane.
Then for whatever reason, their tolerance goes down, but they continue to try to use at high dosages. Which is how many people end up ODing.
that is essentially what his girlfriend said happened, because they were on and off users,
Ultimately people only care about optics, not the truth, or all sides of the story. The optics are bad for the police in this case, and that isn't Floyd's fault, it's their fault.
people only care about optics, but in a court of law, it’s only evidence that matters. After a week, it’s clear the prosecution doesnt have a lot, unless they are saving it for later. They have spent a lot of time trying to humanize Floyd, have people cry on the stand and give testimony’s about him, as well as hammer on the “the knee was on the neck“ catch phrase. The defense lawyer on the other hand has so much evidence its bursting at the seams. the defense hasn’t even called a witness or submitted evidence yet, and their case already seems stronger, aside from the emotional angle, there’s no evidence the prosecution has submitted that the defense hasn’t been able to at least cast a reasonable doubt on
 






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I realise this is a discussion on the ongoing court case and the video I'm linking to is only partially about the George Floyd affair, but there's some very interesting observations within it and I recommend it to anyone who wants to get a wider picture of what's happening:


The content creator has a very sharp eye for ritual signalling and he makes some very interesting connections between George Floyd and other recent events.

The more you look into this, the less it looks like an accident or an arrest gone wrong. This looks like a planned operation with significance in the names of the protagonists, the timing, the links to other events and more.

Highly recommend a watch, this forum probably one of the few places where the message within it may hit home...
 






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I realise this is a discussion on the ongoing court case and the video I'm linking to is only partially about the George Floyd affair, but there's some very interesting observations within it and I recommend it to anyone who wants to get a wider picture of what's happening:


The content creator has a very sharp eye for ritual signalling and he makes some very interesting connections between George Floyd and other recent events.

The more you look into this, the less it looks like an accident or an arrest gone wrong. This looks like a planned operation with significance in the names of the protagonists, the timing, the links to other events and more.

Highly recommend a watch, this forum probably one of the few places where the message within it may hit home...
I personally always welcome investigations into the veracity of large scale incidents, because no doubt many have been staged. For this, I don’t think it was for a few reasons. one, this event has too many moving pieces, too many people pulled in. If the cop “committed suicide” or was “assassinated” afterwards and it went by the wayside, that would be more akin to a fake scenario. Also, I just don’t think they needed to. While this event was amplified in order to divide and destroy the nation, it wasn’t nessessary to fake anything. If you remember last year, that month the medis just seemed to have decided to spark racial tension, they published the ahmund arbory story daily, and then this one, trying to get that reaction. I think the contraversial nature was perfect and selected, meaning, it wasn’t an open and shut case, it was inherently divisive. The cops literally did nothing wrong, but ask anyone who watched cnn last year and they’ll say he literally intentionally murdered him. They just had to waitnfor an ugly image of a white cop arresting a black guy who died later, that was literally the only criteria . Tv magic. At this point they basically have a template that they paste onto some story about some black criminal every couple years, which always turns out to be a lie
 






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Journeyman

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I personally always welcome investigations into the veracity of large scale incidents, because no doubt many have been staged. For this, I don’t think it was for a few reasons. one, this event has too many moving pieces, too many people pulled in. If the cop “committed suicide” or was “assassinated” afterwards and it went by the wayside, that would be more akin to a fake scenario. Also, I just don’t think they needed to. While this event was amplified in order to divide and destroy the nation, it wasn’t nessessary to fake anything. If you remember last year, that month the medis just seemed to have decided to spark racial tension, they published the ahmund arbory story daily, and then this one, trying to get that reaction. I think the contraversial nature was perfect and selected, meaning, it wasn’t an open and shut case, it was inherently divisive. The cops literally did nothing wrong, but ask anyone who watched cnn last year and they’ll say he literally intentionally murdered him. They just had to waitnfor an ugly image of a white cop arresting a black guy who died later, that was literally the only criteria . Tv magic. At this point they basically have a template that they paste onto some story about some black criminal every couple years, which always turns out to be a lie
I can't offer you anything definitive. The first of the two links that I posted on this page had enough to get me questioning the official narrative. Particularly the doubts around Chauvin, the connections between him and Floyd and the convenient lack of experience of the other cops in the detail.

I also think there was a timing element to this which suggests it was planned. Again, you don't have to buy the signalling suggested in the first link, although I think it's interesting. What you do point out is that this incident came after a sustained bout of inflammatory content was being circulated online. I can recall a heavily promoted channel on Reddit which was carrying a succession of videos showing a rapidly escalating level of tension, then this one came at just the right time to send people over the top.

That divisive nature of this is also I think a result of planning. There's video that's enough to get many people convinced they've witnessed a murder alongside sufficient contrasting info to get others feeling the other way. It feels planned that way to be honest. The whole thing feels sketchy and designed to provoke chaos and dissolution.
 






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I'll admit I haven't followed a bit of the trial.

I'm willing to bet they'll let Chauvin off just to start the riots back up again.

It's a charade. A giant soap opera with no meaning whatsoever.
 






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