George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

justjess

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I have only driven by it. But it does have it's reputation. After all, these are the people who booed Santa Claus....
Lol I have no idea what it’s reputation is outside the area. I do know a large part of philly is an open air heroin den. Most of the heroin that hits the more rural parts of the state came from philly. There are very few neighborhoods in philly id want to be caught in even in daylight and it’s been that way as long as I can remember.

Great food out there though
 

meximonk

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I hope I'm not the only that realizes that the Plandemic & the Riots were coordinated together for a multitude of reasons (of course), but the forcing of people to wear masks is not just about paving the way for the mark; it's also a convenient way to keep the "protestors" from being identified and thus encourage them to do so.

There are so many facets in these 2 seemingly separate events that fit together like a jig saw puzzle. When you put it together, the picture is crystal clear.
 
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I hope I'm not the only that realizes that the Plandemic & the Riots were coordinated together for a multitude of reasons (of course), but the forcing of people to wear masks is not just about paving the way for the mark; it's also a convenient way to keep the "protestors" from being identified and thus encourage them to do so.

There are so many facets in these 2 seemingly separate events that fit together like a jig saw puzzle. When you put it together, the picture is crystal clear.
Agreed. Both were planned and work in symbiosis
 

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And as a social worker I’m telling you we would prefer cops not being involved in mental health calls. Would rather go alone. Easier to de escalate situations without them there. I’ve been sent into horrific situations and not even allowed pepper spray with no police escort. I’m still here. We would choose to team up with one of our coworkers every single time rather then take a cop unless we were forced to do so by the agency. And that rarely ever happened.

the guy was mentally ill - he needed medical attention, not a grave. Also - I’m pretty sure his mom called so the mental health situation should have been clear from the beginnng and I guarantee she’s wishing she called crisis instead.
No offense, but I've known some social workers in my time, and the only profession that was more stocked with crazies than you folks was the Police. I will say that every Social Worker (in the US) I've ever come in contact with was either one extreme or the other. Most were not the good version. However, 2 were remarkably caring people, and one did something so noble, so risky and so selfless that I can't mention it here or it might put them at risk.
 

justjess

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She could have called a crisis line, but she didn't. She obviously thought the situation was serious enough to call the police.

Regarding your stated experience, you can't speak for all social workers and all situations.

Bottom line: There is no difference between a person with mental issues who stabs someone and a violent criminal who stabs someone. The end result is still the same.
He didn’t stab anyone. Criminalizing mental illness and drug abuse got us into this mess in the first place. Or what... do you think it’s ok to shoot the mentally Ill? Put them out of their misery?

your right I can’t speak for all. I can tell you my experience in the field and what was commonplace among my peers. I can link you to articles from the social work sphere pushing back against the idea of making them go out with cops not because they can’t handle the call but because working with cops violates a clients dignity, escalates crisis situations, and makes THEIR jobs harder (I’ve linked them before, look through my posts).

Why do you presume you can speak for social workers and then when an actual social worker responds to you with a perspective from the field pull the “you can’t talk for them” card.. what makes you - a non social worker - more qualified to talk for social workers then an actual social worker?

I’m sure she didn’t call the crisis line because The number for the crisis line isn’t common knowledge whereas every two year old can tell you how to dial 911 :rolleyes:
 

justjess

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No offense, but I've known some social workers in my time, and the only profession that was more stocked with crazies than you folks was the Police. I will say that every Social Worker (in the US) I've ever come in contact with was either one extreme or the other. Most were not the good version. However, 2 were remarkably caring people, and one did something so noble, so risky and so selfless that I can't mention it here or it might put them at risk.
You don’t know me. And I have zero idea what kinda crazy you are talking about or why. Or what kind of extreme. You can expand on your comment and I’ll try to respond to it.. or not. Tbh it doesn’t bother me either way.
 

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I know this is going to bring heat down on me, but you do realize that the term, Social Worker has the word Social in it for a reason, right? I'm not judging you personally, I don't know you. I know of one person who hates the entire idea of the profession but does it as a kind of "mole" and focuses on keeping the agency from wrongly stealing children away from parents like he was when he was a child.
 

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I know this is going to bring heat down on me, but you do realize that the term, Social Worker has the word Social in it for a reason, right? I'm not judging you personally, I don't know you. I know of one person who hates the entire idea of the profession but does it as a kind of "mole" and focuses on keeping the agency from wrongly stealing children away from parents like he was when he was a child.
Your going to have to explain the social comment part further.

No one likes taking children from their parents. All I can say in that regard is that I never did so unless absolutely necessary and no other options and after trying for extended periods of time to make it work without doing so. I left the profession a couple years back because the weight of 40+ children’s lives on your shoulders 24/7 was too much and was making me physically ill. Child protective services as a field has some substantial problems but most of the people I came across, in direct service positions, did truly care about helping those kids and didn’t have any alternate agendas. There was a time when I wanted to anonymously distribute “know your rights” pamphlets to families.. or even work as an independent consultant for families caught up in the system But due to aforementioned sickness never did it and stay as far away as I can now since I enjoy not being sick.
 

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As a prior Law Enforcement Officer I saw horrible things done by your peers, things I can't mention here.
I’ve seen horrible things done by your former peers as well. Both personally and professionally. There’s plenty of horrible to go around.

I do wonder seeing as your new here and I said social worker (not child protective services) how you knew I used to work in child protective services? Social workers are in all different areas and CPS is just one. I was specifically talking about mental health in this thread...
 

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The real indictment should be on sensationalism. Now, sure, I'm open to competing arguments, but I haven't seen the answer to the real question. What really brings out the most neurotic behaviors? And for me, it's clearly sensationalism.

I would argue, many people don't have anything else to look forward to. At least, that's what's self-evident through my own personal lens. I think of myself and how I'm kind of boring. But a few lies and a few more distortions can literally grow and fester until a boring person becomes sensational.

So picture all of the previous, but on a much larger scale. Where there are millions of distorted images floating around the stratosphere, those images can't be touched by human hands or altered beyond their perfect form. Once they reach that perfect form, they are cemented into the collective unconscious.
 

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He didn’t stab anyone.
Do you think our society would be better off if he’d been given the chance? Wallace had a violent criminal history, the cops knew that, and he knew they knew that. Mental illness and drug abuse aren’t a free pass from consequences.
 

justjess

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Do you think our society would be better off if he’d been given the chance? Wallace had a violent criminal history, the cops knew that, and he knew they knew that. Mental illness and drug abuse aren’t a free pass from consequences.
They were already at his home three times that day because he was in the midst of a mental health breakdown. He should have received mental health treatment. Are you another one who thinks the mentally ill should just be shot and put out of their misery?

there’s a wide space between: free pass from consequence and shot dead.
 
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