George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[lightseeker]

You keep talking about a lone extremist like it represents all of those on the right, but if you want to talk about mass murder, let’s start with Stalin, Mao and Che Guevara, shall we?

Leftists are much more deadly, and they look at those three as heros.

There’s been tons of left wing terrorism through the years. The corporate media just never talks about it

this is a good book on it

Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, a…

From the bestselling author of Public Enemies & The Big…

www.goodreads.com

 

[lightseeker]

My friends” - again. I will remind you I said on day two (and continued to say ever since) they needed to abort ship. They aren’t “my friends” - I’m not out there with them, am I? Nope.

The Jews in Brooklyn beat the shit out of an observer. Put him in the hospital.

the Naples protesters (which you conveniently skipped over) have been throwing dangerous projectiles at the cops. Destroying shit.

it’s all the same but you will keep quiet because you think fighting against the lockdowns and restrictions is a worthy cause. You do not agree with the cause blm is fighting against so you bang on for months condemning them for the same actions you tacitly accept here.

like I said.. grow a moral backbone and stop being a hypocrite.

Keep your retarded bullshit out of the covid thread. Here you just repeated the same points that I already proved wrong. Worthless post, meant to be inflammatory.

The only one with no moral backbone is clearly you, because you made a big stink out of the Jews burning their own masks when you’ve been apologizing for the senseless thefts , murders, assaulting in this thread for months.

the Naples protestors didn’t steal anything, didn’t burn down a single car lot didn’t break into any stores, didn’t smash any windows, didn’t beat any 70 year old couples with 2x4s. How you may ask? truly mysterious. They didn’t go into any restaurants and chant at the people and make them take their masks off. 50+ people arent dead because of their protest. They didn’t pull a single person out of their car and beat them. They didn’t burn down any hospitals and they didn’t even create over 1 billion dollars in damages. Nor did they loot local store owners clean and destroy their businesses and tell them insurance would pay for it.

the Jews hurt one person, an isolated incident that can be investigated and the person that did it brought to justice. It didn’t define their movement.

Its all so tiresome with you. Youre always looking for ways to justify your continued defense of the indefensible on this thread. Here you want people to be mad about a normal protest

 

[vancityeagle]

yeah the Boogaloo boys aren't real, and right wing provocateurs dont dress up and try to frame the left. I'm sure our resident fascists will look at this evidence and change their views. Or just ignore and deny as they have been doing

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-riot-ivan-harrison-hunter-george-floyd-protests/

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/10/10124451/ivan-hunter-boogaloo-bois-arrest-minneapolis-shooting

Boogaloo boy named Ivan Hunter from Texas drove to Minneanapolis in the midst of the George Floyd protests and SHOT AK47 INTO POLICE PRECINT AND HELPED BURN IT DOWN.

He was in contact via social media with Steven Carillo, another boogaloo boy who was charged with murdering a police officer in Oakland.

3 Boogaloo boys have been charged in Minneanapolis alone.

But we are to believe Boogaloo boys aren't real, and right wing terrorists do not commit acts of violence, arson, and vandalism in an attempt to frame protesters.

I also want to remind you all of the other Boogaloo boys arrested for attempting to bomb a Las Vegas BLM march

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-movement-recent-violent-attacks/story?id=71295536


lets forget all this and push the narrative of the fascist NWO "BLM and Antifa BAD"

 

[lightseeker]

yeah the Boogaloo boys aren't real, and right wing provocateurs dont dress up and try to frame the left. I'm sure our resident fascists will look at this evidence and change their views. Or just ignore and deny as they have been doing

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-riot-ivan-harrison-hunter-george-floyd-protests/

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/10/10124451/ivan-hunter-boogaloo-bois-arrest-minneapolis-shooting

Boogaloo boy named Ivan Hunter from Texas drove to Minneanapolis in the midst of the George Floyd protests and SHOT AK47 INTO POLICE PRECINT AND HELPED BURN IT DOWN.

He was in contact via social media with Steven Carillo, another boogaloo boy who was charged with murdering a police officer in Oakland.

3 Boogaloo boys have been charged in Minneanapolis alone.

But we are to believe Boogaloo boys aren't real, and right wing terrorists do not commit acts of violence, arson, and vandalism in an attempt to frame protesters.

I also want to remind you all of the other Boogaloo boys arrested for attempting to bomb a Las Vegas BLM march

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boogaloo-movement-recent-violent-attacks/story?id=71295536


lets forget all this and push the narrative of the fascist NWO "BLM and Antifa BAD"

Lol so they just do the same things as the leftists you support. Yeah we don’t like those things

 

[vancityeagle]

Lol so they just do the same things as the leftists you support. Yeah we don’t like those things

I support people's rights to protest.

You push disinfo, like trying to make 25 million protesters all look like violent criminals.

I've always said from the get go that those committing acts of violence were a very small minority, and they included

police
left wingers
right wing provocateurs
and just basic criminals without any political motivations

I've said its all very nuanced, and that is the truth.

But you keep up with your "violent BLM rioters" narrative which is total bullshit.

So can you now admit that you were WRONG and people like me and @justjess were RIGHT when we said there were right wingers trying to make BLM look bad by taking part in the violence ? These are only the people who have been caught and I'm sure its just the tip of the iceberg.

So want to admit you were wrong ?

 

[lightseeker]

I support people's rights to protest.

You push disinfo, like trying to make 25 million protesters all look like violent criminals.

I've always said from the get go that those committing acts of violence were a very small minority, and they included

police
left wingers
right wing provocateurs
and just basic criminals without any political motivations

I've said its all very nuanced, and that is the truth.

But you keep up with your "violent BLM rioters" narrative which is total bullshit.

So can you now admit that you were WRONG and people like me and @justjess were RIGHT when we said there were right wingers trying to make BLM look bad by taking part in the violence ? These are only the people who have been caught and I'm sure its just the tip of the iceberg.

So want to admit you were wrong ?

More than a billion dollars in damages isnt a small minority my known liar friend.

And no because I’m not convinced those arent feds or just leftists who say I’m a boggalooer to deflect blame. Again, they are just doing what the people you like are doing.

 

[vancityeagle]

More than a billion dollars in damages isnt a small minority my known liar friend.

And no because I’m not convinced those arent feds or just leftists who say I’m a boggalooer to deflect blame. Again, they are just doing what the people you like are doing.

It doesn't matter what the dollar amount of damage is, A few people could literally cause millions if not billions of dollars of damage. That doesn't prove a thing. Lets look at something tangiable, I said out of the 25 million people who have engaged in protests, only a small minority are violent.

Or do you disagree ? Do you think the majority of 25 million people were violent ?

Of course you aren't convinced, but when the media supports your narrative suddenly you are convinced. You are a joke, just acting on nothing but your emotions. You believe WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE, that is how you operate.

Your ability for critical thinking is gone, you're just a political cheer leader at this point. No amount of evidence will ever satisfy you. YOu are GONE. La la land.

 

[lightseeker]

It doesn't matter what the dollar amount of damage is, A few people could literally cause millions if not billions of dollars of damage. That doesn't prove a thing. Lets look at something tangiable, I said out of the 25 million people who have engaged in protests, only a small minority are violent.

Or do you disagree ? Do you think the majority of 25 million people were violent ?

Of course you aren't convinced, but when the media supports your narrative suddenly you are convinced. You are a joke, just acting on nothing but your emotions. You believe WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE, that is how you operate.

Your ability for critical thinking is gone, you're just a political cheer leader at this point. No amount of evidence will ever satisfy you. YOu are GONE. La la land.

. What exactly are you trying to prove? I informed my opinion largely from this thread, which had tons of information from every side and people supporting both sides. The horrors of what I saw the blm protestors do has no justification. It was not a small minority. It was not one protest or two. It was the defining feature of every protest and activism that was filmed.

They are terrorists, simple as that, who use violence against common people to achieve political ends. Terrorism. You support those actions and I don’t. So any boogalooer or right winger who does political violence is on your hands because you believe that activity is nessessary. If you grant it to your side you defacto grant it to the other unless you are a blatant hypocrite. No that’s not an attack, that is a statement of fact, look up the definition of the word hypocrite. you can’t support leftist violence and cry if a right winger does the same thing.

nevermind the fact that this whole thing was literally based on a lie. George floyd died of a drug overdose.

 

[vancityeagle]

. What exactly are you trying to prove? I informed my opinion largely from this thread, which had tons of information from every side and people supporting both sides. The horrors of what I saw the blm protestors do has no justification. It was not a small minority. It was not one protest or two. It was the defining feature of every protest and activism that was filmed.

They are terrorists, simple as that, who use violence against common people to achieve political ends. Terrorism. You support those actions and I don’t. So any boogalooer or right winger who does political violence is on your hands because you believe that activity is nessessary. If you grant it to your side you defacto grant it to the other unless you are a blatant hypocrite. No that’s not an attack, that is a statement of fact, look up the definition of the word hypocrite. you can’t support leftist violence and cry if a right winger does the same thing.

nevermind the fact that this whole thing was literally based on a lie. George floyd died of a drug overdose.

You're in la la land.

 

[lightseeker]

You're in la la land.

Yeah you get pressed and you have nothing. that’s why I try not to bother to talk to you.

 

[vancityeagle]

Yeah you get pressed and you have nothing. that’s why I try not to bother to talk to you.

You ignore every piece of factually based evidence for your emotions. You can't debate with that.

That there is damage or violence is evidence that SOME people are doing that. Nobody disagrees. However that is not evidence that BLM as a whole (remember 25 million people) is violent overall or are "terrorists" as you claim.

You've provided no factual based evidence to prove such a claim. Like I said your feelings are more important than facts and thus we cannot have a discussion.

You've made up your mind BASED ON YOUR FEELINGS that "BLM are terrorists"

There is no fruitful discussion to be had with you. Have fun in la la land.

 

[lightseeker]

You ignore every piece of factually based evidence for your emotions. You can't debate with that.

That there is damage or violence is evidence that SOME people are doing that. Nobody disagrees. However that is not evidence that BLM as a whole (remember 25 million people) is violent overall or are "terrorists" as you claim.

You've provided no factual based evidence to prove such a claim. Like I said your feelings are more important than facts and thus we cannot have a discussion.

You've made up your mind BASED ON YOUR FEELINGS that "BLM are terrorists"

There is no fruitful discussion to be had with you. Have fun in la la land.

What evidence am I ignoring?

165 violent protests each month, or five violent protests every single day this past summer. 1 in 14 blm demonstrations became violent in total. They were responsible for 600 riots. 47 fatalities. 1.2 billion for the tax payer to fork out.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301926560551899136

 

[lightseeker]

 

[justjess]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1320928984352256000

Maybe cops just shouldn’t be involved in mental health matters at all? I feel like in so many of these situations it was a mental health call gone horribly bad. Cops do not deescalate, they are an escalation just by being present.

 

[UnderAlienControl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1321283224123904001

 

[justjess]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1321447488352669696

 

[Riptide]

November 2, 2020:

Astronomers warn of possible asteroid strike on this day.

November 2 is a day on which much of the world celebrates the dead. (All Souls Day in Catholicism and Dia de Los Muertos in Mexico)


November 3, 2020:

-2020 U.S. Presidential Election

-6 year anniversary of the opening of the One World Trade Center.

-33rd birthday of Colin Kaepernick who instigated racial divide in the United States.


Stay Vigilant.

 

[UnderAlienControl]

 

[justjess]

The report is that he was brandishing/waving a knife, would not put it down and then moved toward the police. If he hadn't done any of those things, he would be alive. Even if they had sent in social workers, the social workers would still need police protection. Otherwise they could be killed. The innocent bystanders also need police protection because no one could possibly know if he was going to attack or not. In general, I highly doubt anyone being threatened by someone with a weapon is thinking "Hey, this guy could have mental issues. Let's call a social worker first.". Their lives matter, too.

And as a social worker I’m telling you we would prefer cops not being involved in mental health calls. Would rather go alone. Easier to de escalate situations without them there. I’ve been sent into horrific situations and not even allowed pepper spray with no police escort. I’m still here. We would choose to team up with one of our coworkers every single time rather then take a cop unless we were forced to do so by the agency. And that rarely ever happened.

the guy was mentally ill - he needed medical attention, not a grave. Also - I’m pretty sure his mom called so the mental health situation should have been clear from the beginnng and I guarantee she’s wishing she called crisis instead.

 

[justjess]

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Philly isn’t turning to shit. Philly has BEEN shit for a very long time. Have you ever been?