Gardasil Vaccine Destroying Children

manama

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No, but this would require blood coming in contact with blood, which would mean that blood was either not cleaned properly. Hepatitis B and C can live on surfaces for a long time, but those surfaces would have to be soiled and not cleaned for that time in order for it to survive. It can be removed from surfaces by cleaning with bleach. This is the only difference between the Hepatitis' and HIV is that it can live outside the body longer. Otherwise, it is only transmitted in the exact same way. You either engage in sexual activity with someone who is infected or their blood has the opportunity to mix with your blood. You don't get it by holding someone's hand, or sharing their spoon.

Therefore, children should not be at risk of Hepatitis B unless the environment they are in is dirty or contaminated and they have cuts or an open wound, or they are being sexually molested. This was the case that I posted about the history of gonorrhea affecting children in history. They tried to say young girls could get it without sexual contact to cover up the abuse and this was forgotten when antibiotics were released.

I would say that there is a strong possibility that it is the same scenario here. It is a blood borne pathogen. There are just too many ways to prevent children from contracting it. Some percentage of this population is more than likely being molested and that is why children demonstrate the statistics that they do. That can't be fixed with a vaccine.
heb B doesn't require blood to blood contact only. other body fluids as well. HIV gets transmitted from mother etc or in contact with infected person etc which is rare, Hep B however is everywhere and does infact danger new borns the most.
it doesn't have to be sex. people have used diseases to cover up stuff always, there are various useless pills and strong vaccines (old mmr, gardasil, cervrix) but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING is a hoax
 

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Andrew Wakefield wasn't called fraud for no reason. He was asked to reproduce his results while other scientists start as well, a whole lot of research went into it, he couldn't do it. And scientists found no relation between vaccines and autism even though they tried over and over again, He was asked more about how he reached that conclusion and about his experiment. Turned out he never did an actual study neither did he do any sort of experiment
 

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heb B doesn't require blood to blood contact only. other body fluids as well. HIV gets transmitted from mother etc or in contact with infected person etc which is rare, Hep B however is everywhere and does infact danger new borns the most.
it doesn't have to be sex. people have used diseases to cover up stuff always, there are various useless pills and strong vaccines (old mmr, gardasil, cervrix) but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING is a hoax
I am aware that blood to blood contact is not the only method of transmission. This would be the definition of a blood borne pathogen like HIV. I'm not sure what kind of information is being spread about it in other countries, but according to the CDC.

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Hepatitis B is spread when blood, semen, or other body fluid infected with the Hepatitis B virus enters the body of a person who is not infected. People can become infected with the virus during activities such as:

  • Birth (spread from an infected mother to her baby during birth)
  • Sex with an infected partner
  • Sharing needles, syringes, or other drug-injection equipment
  • Sharing items such as razors or toothbrushes with an infected person
  • Direct contact with the blood or open sores of an infected person
  • Exposure to blood from needlesticks or other sharp instruments"https://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hbv/bfaq.htm
This is the exactly how HIV is spread. Obviously, they are different virus' but they are spread the exact same way. Therefore, some percentage does potentially represent sexual abuse. Children should not be at risk of sexually transmitted blood borne pathogens if they are clean and their skin is intact, if their environment is clean, and if they are not being sexually molested. It is very easy to prevent children from getting it.

It could also represent adultery. Mother's would contract it from their husbands if they have been sleeping around and then this would pass on to their babies. Either way, this is primarily a sexually transmitted disease. It does not penetrate through skin when a person comes in contact with it. Our skin is a barrier that is protecting us from getting this disease. It does not infect us through trans dermal, droplet, or airborne administration. A person would have to be exposed to an infected person through blood to blood contact or through sexual contact. Saliva does not carry it either. As a result, I should not be required to vaccinate against a sexually transmitted disease if I am not at risk of infection. I don't want to vaccinate my children for sexually transmitted diseases period.

If someone in the US does have Hep B, it is likely that it was spread through drug use or sexual activity. I don't think a whole population should be vaccinated to prevent something this. If you are at risk and you think something like this would be beneficial. Whatever, you can inject all the aluminum you want. I don't want to do this.
 
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Andrew Wakefield wasn't called fraud for no reason. He was asked to reproduce his results while other scientists start as well, a whole lot of research went into it, he couldn't do it. And scientists found no relation between vaccines and autism even though they tried over and over again, He was asked more about how he reached that conclusion and about his experiment. Turned out he never did an actual study neither did he do any sort of experiment
The antivax movement was not created by this man I guarantee you. One man who was discredited for a paper is not enough to have all these people questioning vaccines. Regular people. Just average people who don't even know who David Icke is, think that history happened the way we are taught in school. Normal people are questioning vaccines. It has nothing to do with whoever this man is. I have never even heard of him and I am pretty familiar with the arguments opposed to vaccinations.
 
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Andrew Wakefield wasn't called fraud for no reason. He was asked to reproduce his results while other scientists start as well, a whole lot of research went into it, he couldn't do it. And scientists found no relation between vaccines and autism even though they tried over and over again, He was asked more about how he reached that conclusion and about his experiment. Turned out he never did an actual study neither did he do any sort of experiment
This is exactly the opposite of what I just learned. You are sorely misinformed dear.
 
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The antivax movement was not created by this man I guarantee you. One man who was discredited for a paper is not enough to have all these people questioning vaccines. Regular people. Just average people who don't even know who David Icke is, think that history happened the way we are taught in school. Normal people are questioning vaccines. It has nothing to do with whoever this man is. I have never even heard of him and I am pretty familiar with the arguments opposed to vaccinations.
Dr. Andrew Wakefield is the director of the movie Vaxxed You may read this article to know more about him and his research. Or watch this video:
 

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Dr. Andrew Wakefield is the director of the movie Vaxxed You may read this article to know more about him and his research. Or watch this video:
Thanks for this information. It's interesting to me that he saw a connection between vaccines and bowel disease. There is a lot of research suggesting that probiotics can be beneficial for neuro/psychiatric disorders.

"Probiotics and other microbiome manipulations have been touted as cures to everything from obesity to colitis to allergies and autism." https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201609/the-cutting-edge-gut-health-and-disease

There is even a psychiatrist who has gone to treating her patients with probiotics first instead of other medications. She is very interesting, I learned about her a while back. http://kellybroganmd.com/about/bio/

My first exposure to the antivax movement was when I was investigating the benefits of the alkaline diet. I ended up finding a lecture by Dr. Tent about the connection between the rising number of autoimmune disorders and vaccinations. So, from my experience, autism is only one of the of many complaints I have heard about vaccines from within the medical community. There is the possibility that excessive vaccinations is also creating autoimmune disorders as well.

Here is a link to the lecture I watched by Dr. Tent.
 

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Thanks for this thread AD. That is a very sad story. Unfortunately, there are many similar cases.

There is a new Documentary mini series coming up on April 12 called "truth about vaccines" I'm sure they will be addressing Gardesil. Here is the link for details and free registration if you are interested: https://go.thetruthaboutvaccines.com
I've watched a good portion of this documentary series and it is really good.

I will not vaccinate any of my kids anymore. I'm glad I am not vaccinated.
 

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There is NO relation between vaccine and autism please don't believe in that bullshit. im a med student i spent 2 whole years studying just about vaccines thats fucking retarded vaccines can't cause autism and neither can the stuff vaccines are made up of. There are no clues which say that vaccines cause autism and the first man who said that they did lied to make money and he got his license taken and that was long ago why the fuck are people still believing in it.

MMR vaccines don't cause autism either the only problem in that MMR vaccine has a strong dose and thus the child must be checked thoroughly whether his immune system can handle the dose or not and if no the vaccine is postponed until the baby is a toddler or a proper kid for the administration of the vaccine. If given to a baby with weak immune system it can cause seizures and that is obviously a huge issue but after the kid is well no longer a baby it cant cause seizures..
This is why when getting MMR for your kid you must force your physician to make your baby get a proper check up first because the seizure is a problem that we found about in the newer studies and the old physicians may or may not know about it BUT again once your kid is grown up like around 3-4 yo it can no longer cause any problems. AGAIN in most of the world MMR has been discontinued and a new formula is used now which is given in dose 1 and 2 and that has been found to cause NO problem in babies either and has been a success in administering to kids as young as -12 months old
BUT since Muricans are idiot the new version of MMR vaccine aka Dose MR a and b have yet to introduced in the country

If you think vaccines cause autism im sorry to say this but you have no idea how autism works.
the kid might have developed behavioral issue due to damage to the behavioral part of the brain by either falling etc or by a bacterial damage or extremely high fever but that again has nothing to do with vaccines
I do not want to be that guy that shares a story in which others look at as rumor. Then someone shares the story that I shared and it could either be used as fuel for a pro-vaccine stance or anti-vaccine stance. Buuuuut.... I'll share it anyway because I believe it is relevant. Long story short: My boss has 7 kids. His first 3 kids were fully vaccinated and each of them have autism to some degree. They decided to stop vaccinating. His next 4 kids do not have any autism. Try convincing him that vaccines did not have a role in that.

Now I am not saying that vaccines are necessarily the origination of autism per se... but some vaccines at least play a role in triggering autistic behavior. The doctors only know the information they are given from the CDC and the information they spend their extra time researching. Not many doctors spend extra time researching vaccines so they trust the CDC. Bottom line for me, I do not trust the CDC. Hence... no more vaccines for us.
 

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I do not want to be that guy that shares a story in which others look at as rumor. Then someone shares the story that I shared and it could either be used as fuel for a pro-vaccine stance or anti-vaccine stance. Buuuuut.... I'll share it anyway because I believe it is relevant. Long story short: My boss has 7 kids. His first 3 kids were fully vaccinated and each of them have autism to some degree. They decided to stop vaccinating. His next 4 kids do not have any autism. Try convincing him that vaccines did not have a role in that.

Now I am not saying that vaccines are necessarily the origination of autism per se... but some vaccines at least play a role in triggering autistic behavior. The doctors only know the information they are given from the CDC and the information they spend their extra time researching. Not many doctors spend extra time researching vaccines so they trust the CDC. Bottom line for me, I do not trust the CDC. Hence... no more vaccines for us.
Jesus Christ he should have stopped after 3 at least that's so irresponsible
 

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I do not want to be that guy that shares a story in which others look at as rumor. Then someone shares the story that I shared and it could either be used as fuel for a pro-vaccine stance or anti-vaccine stance. Buuuuut.... I'll share it anyway because I believe it is relevant. Long story short: My boss has 7 kids. His first 3 kids were fully vaccinated and each of them have autism to some degree. They decided to stop vaccinating. His next 4 kids do not have any autism. Try convincing him that vaccines did not have a role in that.

Now I am not saying that vaccines are necessarily the origination of autism per se... but some vaccines at least play a role in triggering autistic behavior. The doctors only know the information they are given from the CDC and the information they spend their extra time researching. Not many doctors spend extra time researching vaccines so they trust the CDC. Bottom line for me, I do not trust the CDC. Hence... no more vaccines for us.
7 kids?
Even though the first 3 had autism, woa i don't want to be rude but damn
 

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One day old for any vaccine, especially hep B, is ridiculous. I cannot understand how that one is not disputed. I think people just assume that representatives in the medical community must know better than they do. I don't think most people in the US realize that there are basically no identified cases of Heb B in this country. I have never seen one person get admitted in the hospital with that diagnosis. I have not seen one admitted patient have that as a preexisting diagnosis either. From my experience, hepatitis B is not a threat to us in the US. Therefore, a vaccine should not be required period, and it should definitely not be required for one day old infants.
very good point in fact hep B is only spread through needles, sex et cetra so WTF would a baby need that immediately
 

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My daughter had the childhood vaccines, now I wish Id been more informed and a bit stronger and said no to them all, she never had the Gardisil one that they were pushing in the schools when she was 16, refused to sign the consent form and told her she was not getting it under any circumstances because I really didnt trust it at all and am skeptical about the whole HPV excuse too, literally only ever heard of one person since the beginning of the HPV vaccine pushing that actually had it was a woman called Jade Goodee, her fame came from one of the early seasons of Big Brother here in the UK and she was one of the most successful ex BB reality stars, she had two sons and then when she was in her late twenties or early thirtys she was diagnosed as having HPV and then later died while the whole world was watching, it was actually pretty sad to watch. Personally I believe she was used as a pawn in the whole HPV pushing at that time but shes literally the only person Ive heard of that ever had it, she was the HPV poster girl more or less.

Ive heard of quite a few stories of girls who had this and then became really ill after it, so glad I never let my daughter get it. After all the experiences Ive had with the so called medical "profession" over the last 10 years I really dont trust them at all. I had to contact a neurosurgeon on my own or Id never have had surgery and I had to really push for years just to see a specialist in Ehlers Danlos Syndrome here in Glasgow, he was the only one in the whole of Scotland who has now retired about 3-4 years ago so now he have nobody. My daughter sees a specialist physio who is really amazing but because shes just a physio and not a doctor she doesn't have much clout when it comes to referring patients or probably even getting doctors to actually listen although she is pretty amazing tbh and shes the only person we have left who knows anything about EDS, I mean theres probably less than two handfuls of experts worldwide for this condiiton and associated conditions like it even though it affects roughly 1 in every 5000 people although it actually is more than that because of the lack of information, research or anything else. When I first heard about it about 8 years ago it was supposed to then be 1 in every 500,000 which is a huge difference!! Theres me and my daughter confirmed with it in our family and am sure my mum has it, my brother and my neice too and probably a few others in my family too and there are people Ive known all my life who also have been diagnosed with it too so its not at all rare.

But basically nobody gives a shit about all us sick people, maybe sounds a bit paranoid of me to say this but I do wonder often if this isnt part of some kind of depopulation agenda, its hereditary and incurable, barely treatable and theres barely any funding or research at all, even if you get a diagnosis it makes no difference you are still left to just rot pretty much and get on with it. Doubtful my daughter will be able to have children because shes too ill and then theres the risk of passing it on and it seems to get worse with each generation, shes 22 and is as bad as I am at 40! Between that and Chiari Malformation in the last 8 years lots of people have died because of it and probably more that were undiagnosed too and its not all older people its so sad there are a few people on facebook I was in a lot of contact with who have died, friends Ive lost, am so glad for the ones I dont know about because its like being punched in the gut everytime it happens, its horrible I mean yeah sure people die thats just part of life but so many and so young and most of the ones who are still here its not the best quality of life at all, sad just so fucking sad.
 
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My daughter had the childhood vaccines, now I wish Id been more informed and a bit stronger and said no to them all, she never had the Gardisil one that they were pushing in the schools when she was 16, refused to sign the consent form and told her she was not getting it under any circumstances because I really didnt trust it at all and am skeptical about the whole HPV excuse too, literally only ever heard of one person since the beginning of the HPV vaccine pushing that actually had it was a woman called Jade Goodee, her fame came from one of the early seasons of Big Brother here in the UK and she was one of the most successful ex BB reality stars, she had two sons and then when she was in her late twenties or early thirtys she was diagnosed as having HPV and then later died while the whole world was watching, it was actually pretty sad to watch. Personally I believe she was used as a pawn in the whole HPV pushing at that time but shes literally the only person Ive heard of that ever had it, she was the HPV poster girl more or less.

Ive heard of quite a few stories of girls who had this and then became really ill after it, so glad I never let my daughter get it. After all the experiences Ive had with the so called medical "profession" over the last 10 years I really dont trust them at all. I had to contact a neurosurgeon on my own or Id never have had surgery and I had to really push for years just to see a specialist in Ehlers Danlos Syndrome here in Glasgow, he was the only one in the whole of Scotland who has now retired about 3-4 years ago so now he have nobody. My daughter sees a specialist physio who is really amazing but because shes just a physio and not a doctor she doesn't have much clout when it comes to referring patients or probably even getting doctors to actually listen although she is pretty amazing tbh and shes the only person we have left who knows anything about EDS, I mean theres probably less than two handfuls of experts worldwide for this condiiton and associated conditions like it even though it affects roughly 1 in every 5000 people although it actually is more than that because of the lack of information, research or anything else. When I first heard about it about 8 years ago it was supposed to then be 1 in every 500,000 which is a huge difference!! Theres me and my daughter confirmed with it in our family and am sure my mum has it, my brother and my neice too and probably a few others in my family too and there are people Ive known all my life who also have been diagnosed with it too so its not at all rare.

But basically nobody gives a shit about all us sick people, maybe sounds a bit paranoid of me to say this but I do wonder often if this isnt part of some kind of depopulation agenda, its hereditary and incurable, barely treatable and theres barely any funding or research at all, even if you get a diagnosis it makes no difference you are still left to just rot pretty much and get on with it. Doubtful my daughter will be able to have children because shes too ill and then theres the risk of passing it on and it seems to get worse with each generation, shes 22 and is as bad as I am at 40! Between that and Chiari Malformation in the last 8 years lots of people have died because of it and probably more that were undiagnosed too and its not all older people its so sad there are a few people on facebook I was in a lot of contact with who have died, friends Ive lost, am so glad for the ones I dont know about because its like being punched in the gut everytime it happens, its horrible I mean yeah sure people die thats just part of life but so many and so young and most of the ones who are still here its not the best quality of life at all, sad just so fucking sad.
I want to learn more about EDS, before you I never heard of it. Thanks Carolyn and best to you and your family.
 
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