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I was fascinated when I realised that a popular Christian writer, David W Daniels had come from the occult as a younger guy.

If you have ever wondered what the real message locked behind the creepy androgynous goat thing is but were too afraid to ask, this little clip might shed some true light on it.

 






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On the surface it sounds quite impressive if I'd of came across it in my teens, when I was totally ignorant to religion, I could have been tempted by their philosophies.
The power to will is grotesque to me now as I have had children and watched them grow but in my youth growing up in a country where most people think you are either crazy or stupid if you have any interest in religion I could of easily fallen for it.

You will know them by their fruits.
 






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I am glad that a christian finally gets that the Baphomet is not a real entity, but a symbol for alchemy.

The problem is that evil and good are not two sides of the same coin. Just like darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good. This is a misunderstanding in Hermeticism and has nothing to do with what is done in alchemy anyway.

Alchemy is about controlling your own mind for one thing, and then to learn about the laws of nature which makes possible technology like the computers we are communicating with. Without quantum mechanics you cannot have an efficient computer, and QM is intimately related to the Hermetic Principle of Vibration. Everything vibrates in a sea of waves.

Modern physics is Hermeticism plain and simple, and criticizing it while using devices that use those laws is a bit hypocritical.
 






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baphomet is a real entity...not just symbolism

I also believed "Starbuck" got their name from the baphomet image.

Imagine a star on a buck



 






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I'm not gonna lie- I haven't watched the video. It is ten minutes long. I might watch it later.

But... in any case... my mindset and what I think is best for people- stay away from the occult. Stay away from the occult, period. Don't mess with it. Have absolutely nothing to do with it. Stay far, far away from it. People hear warnings... "stay away from that stuff".... people ignore those warnings..... they come to learn the hard way. Or even worse, they get permanently sucked in. It's dangerous stuff.
 






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Starbucks says they took the name from a character in Moby Dick.
they wouldn't come out and say "we" came up with the name "star+buck" from "our" god the baphomet...all these large corporation pay homage to their "god" with symbolism. why not "star+buck" = "baphomet"?
 






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How about cernunnos, pan..? Im sure there can be more prototypes found if we go further back in history. He din't come from nowhere.
All "goat" related "deities" are merely symbols of fertility. The goat head in Baphomet is a representation of the Kundalini which is being raised.
 






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All "goat" related "deities" are merely symbols of fertility. The goat head in Baphomet is a representation of the Kundalini which is being raised.
Kundalini symbol is a snake which coincidentally found all around those goats we are talking about.
Symbols of fertility sounds so innocent sure you know better than that :) But anyways not that important...OP was more interesting and we digress.

Daniels claims baphomet represents relativity of good and bad and how they cannot exist without each other. Interesting how we can find same idea in many philosophers works and in many religions. Now i wonder from where they all got it ?
 






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The correct duality is the feminine and masculine(yin Yang) aspect of religious that corresponds to God's Trancendent and Immanence. When God is active we are passive and vice versa. You'll find this idea in Taoist philosophy Hinduism Sufism Kabbalah etc..and ppl who lack basic knowledge thing it is some sort of occult evil.

The left side relates to the yin/passive aspect where we submit to the will of God.
The right side relates to the Yang/active aspect where we become representations of God or doing His will to make the world a better place.
The left also is connected with the left brain /logical truth, rules/laws of religion.
The right is connected with the right brain emotional/mystical truth.
Where the left becomes evil and connected to the devil is when the core logical element is missing or wrong theology and a person takes other entities as 'gods' or no god at all...then the left side represents evil.

What the baphomet symbol is an example of is the true system being hijacked. The real version is in kabbalkahs tree of life and it symbosss the primordial man/world soul containing the metaphysical levels ..they call it Adam Khadmon. Baphomet is a hijacked version of that metaphysical map, in this one "Satan" is the higher self and again it's meant to portray his good and evil sides. It's the same old luciferian theme.
 






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The duality seems to represent the sufficiency of the self, and encompassing all poles and opposites within the self to become something "elite". Self worship is at the heart of the Baphomet. There is the concept of the "Ipsissimus" within occultism which put in honest language is the epitome of the self absorbed and self-centred individual.

"Ipsissimus is quite hard to translate directly from Latin to English, but it is essentially the superlative of “self”, translating rather approximately to “His most Selfness,” or “self-est.”

https://warlockasyluminternationalnews.com/2011/01/05/understanding-the-work-of-an-ipsissimus/

I have known several people personally who have been into black magic and some who have come out and found Jesus destroys the power of the enemy.
 






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For me “ As above so below “ was the way we learned before everything was dictated and taught to us. Everything works the same way for the most part. If you can understand this, the same most likely apply to that.

If you understand the universe, your biological makeup mostl likely similar......Now I wouldn’t say on earth as it is in heaven, but I will say as within, so is without.

I think the term AASB is associated with the occult in order to keep us dependent and reliant on the teachings of man. Where as if we understood “as above so below” we could search out our own truths instead of falling for lies and trusting in liars for education, truth, and knowledge.
 






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You cannot go on that path without first destroying or repressing the ego. It is suicide. Even Crowley warned about this.
 






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post deleted. never mind. I've decided to save my thoughts for some other time
 






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True some ppl mean well but end up lost.
Btw it makes me laugh when do gooder hippies say things like

Hey it's all the same man...Allah Buddah Jesus shiva...same god. Peace.
 






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post deleted. never mind. I've decided to save my thoughts for some other time
don't be stupid, no better time than present :) why we all here ? And if you think there is zero auditory for knowledge you have, there is only one way to figure it out... damn my bad english rapes me, i can only hope you understand what i meant.
 






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I haven't watched the video either.....but just on the subject of AASB, this is one comparison between the Bible, and the Message paraphrase:

King James Version
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.​
The Message
9-17 Our Father in heaven, Reveal who you are. Set the world right; Do what’s best— as above, so below. Keep us alive with three square meals. Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others. Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil. You’re in charge! You can do anything you want! You’re ablaze in beauty! Yes. Yes. Yes.​

I find it really odd that other Christians don't understand why I dislike this paraphrase being used to teach.
 






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