From a solitary candle to the brightness of the Son - leaving Mysticism

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As long as he's a selfless, kind, generous etc. person, religion doesn't matter. Projection or prayer or whatever.
Show me some type of scriptures to back up what you believed unless this is based on your personal opinion.
 





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Show me some type of scriptures to back up what you believed unless this is based on your personal opinion.
This Scripture is written in your heart. It's the touch of the true God. Look there. No other place you can find it, really.
 





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Just watching this live...

As long as he does good to his fellow human beings, his religion doesn't matter. Hindus, Mystics, Muslims, Protestants, Catholics, Buddhists, atheists, Judaists, Zoroastrians, Shintoists, Shamanists, Neo-pagans, Taoists etc etc etc - are all equal before our all-loving all-accepting God.

God sees hearts.
 





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You are deceived my friend. I challenge you to read the 4 Gospels with prayers asking God to open your eyes to the TRUTH. Peace
God is much closer than that to your heart. He's right there. All one has to do is talk to him. He'll always respond.

The written and edited human works from 19 centuries ago can't compare in power and veracity of God himself speaking straight to your heart. Especially when translated from the original koine Greek into another language, they lose a lot. You're missing out big time.
 





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Good to see Steven is using his experiences in a positive way. Even though his younger self had embraced things that led him down a path he now disagrees with, nothing is wasted.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

 





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Dear Christian brothers and sisters who have been conversing with me here - I sincerely appreciate your time and attention, but I'm getting an impression you're not so interested to listen and to genuinely understand.
Spiritual hunger drives a search for truth. At the supermarket they often put chocolate and crisps near the counter so you buy them on a whim when you feel peckish. Our society puts mystical teachings out in the same way.

Several of my Christian brothers and sisters used to be involved with mysticism and eastern religion. The reason why it might appear that we don't "listen" is do some extent a result of the fact that many of us have been a "Bacsi" once upon a time before we met Jesus, beyond mere religion and history, the living Lord Jesus Christ.

I know at the moment it is hard for you to hear but we try to share the real Gospel with you out of love and humility, not some game of winning mere arguments. God bless you.
 





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As long as he does good to his fellow human beings, his religion doesn't matter. Hindus, Mystics, Muslims, Protestants, Catholics, Buddhists, atheists, Judaists, Zoroastrians, Shintoists, Shamanists, Neo-pagans, Taoists etc etc etc - are all equal before our all-loving all-accepting God.

God sees hearts.
Yes God sees hearts.

But you know what one wise man said... There is a way that seems right to a man but its end are the ways of death.

As i see it since Jesus Chris is our Creator it's pertinent to follow His way. And His way might not be so different than your way after all.

So look it up in the written records about Him - Matthew Mark Luke and John.
 





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Spiritual hunger drives a search for truth. At the supermarket they often put chocolate and crisps near the counter so you buy them on a whim when you feel peckish. Our society puts mystical teachings out in the same way.

Several of my Christian brothers and sisters used to be involved with mysticism and eastern religion. The reason why it might appear that we don't "listen" is do some extent a result of the fact that many of us have been a "Bacsi" once upon a time before we met Jesus, beyond mere religion and history, the living Lord Jesus Christ.

I know at the moment it is hard for you to hear but we try to share the real Gospel with you out of love and humility, not some game of winning mere arguments. God bless you.
It's simpler than that. I get a feeling the people I'm talking with here aren't developed spiritually enough. Because intellectual honesty is a form of respect towards the person you're talking with. Even if you disagree on some critical points. Here it's manifested in the fact that my Christian brothers and sisters write things to me that show they haven't read my posts to them or didn't care to try and understand. Why talk to people like that on an intellectual level? All that remains to do in such situation is to share God's love with them any way possible. That's the only thing that matters. All of the dogmatism isn't worth the kilobytes and watts spent on them...
 





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It's simpler than that. I get a feeling the people I'm talking with here aren't developed spiritually enough. Because intellectual honesty is a form of respect towards the person you're talking with. Even if you disagree on some critical points. Here it's manifested in the fact that my Christian brothers and sisters write things to me that show they haven't read my posts to them or didn't care to try and understand. Why talk to people like that on an intellectual level? All that remains to do in such situation is to share God's love with them any way possible. That's the only thing that matters. All of the dogmatism isn't worth the kilobytes and watts spent on them...
Without being personal on this, we are all at different stages of spiritual and emotional security. Your messages and mine reveal little if our age, culture and experience. Text communication is sometimes the coldest, most brutal and most liable to misunderstanding. If I have failed to properly listen I apologise.

One of the issues comes over statements that you make, especially on Christians which seem unsubstantiated and therefore make you seem less respectful to those you interact with. I don't mean this as a direct rebuke, just a point of potential improved communication.

Also, given the Christians you appear to have experienced personally, if they have failed to be true ambassadors of the Gospel, perhaps we here are the target of the anger and disappointment you have felt towards them?
 





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Yes God sees hearts.

But you know what one wise man said... There is a way that seems right to a man but its end are the ways of death.

As i see it since Jesus Chris is our Creator it's pertinent to follow His way. And His way might not be so different than your way after all.

So look it up in the written records about Him - Matthew Mark Luke and John.
I can quote the four canonical gospel chapters by the heart. The sermon on the mount, Pater Imon - in several languages, including Greek. God gave me an amazing memory and ability for languages (I'm fluent in several and have a working knowledge in many more). I can also recite suras from the noble Qur'an in Arabic, mantras from the Vedas and some of the verses from the Guru Granth Sahib, the teachings of Buddha etc. I've lived in several countries and traveled to dozens in five continents.

Jesus is a great teacher from God. I respect him immensly. I converse to him almost daily. His spirit is very kind and powerful. I don't care if our dogmatic ideas differ. To me, practice is everything. It's about love, forgiveness, care, giving, friendship, joy, help, generosity, etc. That's all God cares about. This is what Jesus the Annointed was teaching. All dogmatism that was added later somewhat takes away from his pure words of love. His light shines bright nevertheless. May his name be exhaulted forever!
 





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Without being personal on this, we are all at different stages of spiritual and emotional security. Your messages and mine reveal little if our age, culture and experience. Text communication is sometimes the coldest, most brutal and most liable to misunderstanding. If I have failed to properly listen I apologise.

One of the issues comes over statements that you make, especially on Christians which seem unsubstantiated and therefore make you seem less respectful to those you interact with. I don't mean this as a direct rebuke, just a point of potential improved communication.

Also, given the Christians you appear to have experienced personally, if they have failed to be true ambassadors of the Gospel, perhaps we here are the target of the anger and disappointment you have felt towards them?
I understand all that you're saying. It plays a part, yes. But there are several cases where Christians on this forum showed that they didn't listen to my honest and sincere thoughts I shared with them - clearly expressed. You might not agree, but at least listen and understand. It seems their ears are closed and all they are interested in is to judge. It's normal. I encounter this in my everyday life. Even when I talk about issues like satanic system of education, entertainment bussiness or all other "conspiracy theories". It's all the same. Indoctrination and wanting to make you think as they do... One-way street. Then it only remains to love, the only language understood universally. I give my love to you too, my dear brother. It's life. It's the way it is. Our journey is one of constant learning. May God bless you in all things. Thank you for your time and attention for me and your genuine love of Jesus burning so passionately in your heart. Forgive me for everything. My intent is love. I can be way too direct sometimes, it's not good.
 





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I understand all that you're saying. It plays a part, yes. But there are several cases where Christians on this forum showed that they didn't listen to my honest and sincere thoughts I shared with them - clearly expressed. You might not agree, but at least listen and understand. It seems their ears are closed and all they are interested in is to judge. It's normal. I encounter this in my everyday life. Even when I talk about issues like satanic system of education, entertainment bussiness or all other "conspiracy theories". It's all the same. Indoctrination and wanting to make you think as they do... One-way street. Then it only remains to love, the only language understood universally. I give my love to you too, my dear brother. It's life. It's the way it is. Our journey is one of constant learning. May God bless you in all things. Thank you for your time and attention for me and your genuine love of Jesus burning so passionately in your heart. Forgive me for everything. My intent is love. I can be way too direct sometimes, it's not good.
@Bacsi We love you man and that is why we want to share the Gospel with you. I have been praying for you to come to the only TRUTH existed as far as salvation. There are NO other way except thru the Lord Jesus Christ, my brother. You are created in HIS image and I guarantee he is very close to you right now, waiting for you to open your heart to Him and he WILL come into your life. I pray you will find time alone and ask the Lord Jesus to show himself to you. No Christians here are trying to trick you as many us were ex-Bacsi. Give him a chance and you WILL NOT be dissapointed. Peace and love to you.

Check this out, you might find it interesting.
 





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Luke 5

29And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them. 30But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? 31And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. 32I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

I read Doreen Irvine's book "From Witchcraft to Christ" years ago but I didn't realise that way before YouTube, the Internet or even CDs, someone had recorded her story on a blurry VCR so it can still be heard today.

 





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@Bacsi We love you man and that is why we want to share the Gospel with you. I have been praying for you to come to the only TRUTH existed as far as salvation. There are NO other way except thru the Lord Jesus Christ, my brother. You are created in HIS image and I guarantee he is very close to you right now, waiting for you to open your heart to Him and he WILL come into your life. I pray you will find time alone and ask the Lord Jesus to show himself to you. No Christians here are trying to trick you as many us were ex-Bacsi. Give him a chance and you WILL NOT be dissapointed. Peace and love to you.

Check this out, you might find it interesting.
What I've seen from Christians at this website is judgement, insults, personal attacks and refusal to listen. I see no point in continuing such conversations. They don't know the true God, who's fully loving.

I just checked with asking "OK Google", and it gave me a very good answer about Jesus Christ. So I don't know what these videos are about. Jesus Christ is very controversial figure in the Western world with millions of drastically conflicting opinions. It could be one possible reason the voice recognition interfaces stay away from the subject. Other religions are much more unified and have a general consensus on major doctrines.
 





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What I've seen from Christians at this website is judgement, insults, personal attacks and refusal to listen. I see no point in continuing such conversations. They don't know the true God, who's fully loving.

If you Google "Jesus Christ" by typing in text, abundance of appropriate information will be given. These voice recognition interfaces will catch up. The figure of Jesus Christ is so contradictory in the Western world, that it's dangerous to say any opinion because somebody will accuse you of skewing it on purpose. Christians sure do like to fight with each other. Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc are much, much more unified and have firm foundations the absolute majority adhere to. Christianity is extremely fragmented.
Nobody tries to forge a £9 note, @Bacsi - truth is a battleground.