Feminist Lies That Are Making Women Miserable

justjess

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The problem is that opposition to feminism is reduced and attributed to male insecurity... That faulty presumption seems to be preprogrammed into every feminist i have encountered to fuel their crusade and keep them from considering any objectivity. Objectivity that keeps them from consisering any negative impact its had on elements in society and way of life... Many are proud... Honestly if a woman wants to work then that is her preference, it makes no difference to me if a woman or a man does my taxes at hnr block or a woman or a man hands me money at the bank....

Modern women have been alienated by feminist propoganda for about a whole generation now which is how long it takes to effectively change or revolutionize a society. They dont know any different so they have a right to know whether or not they have been sold a bill of goods that negatively influence or undermine them in any way...
The industrial revolution disrupted traditional families. It moved work out of the family economy and into factories. Reduced farm jobs meant families had to move to cities to pursue factory jobs. Factory jobs didn’t pay enough so both parents had to work. Husbands and wives who had previously worked jn a family business together in the home had to seek seperate outside employment and also often send their kids off to work as well. Women who had previously done piecework like sewing from their house to bring in extra money got out priced by factories and had no option but to seek outside employment. City apartments could not accommodate grandma and auntie and uncle all living with mom and dad so childcare arrangements were disrupted eventually leading to public school mandates. Every single thing you are blaming on feminism is the fault of the industrial revolution - including a portion of feminism itself. You just refuse to even entertain it.
 






kerrichinchilla

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You are the one making this personal about me and not the information. If thats not insecurity idk what is. Juat sayin...
It personal because you are attacking women for having jobs, trying to play a game where you assume women hate working, that they have been enslaved by feminism. your title for this thread is women are miserable with feminism, what did you expect? for women to just lie back and accept what you said, you dont expect women to fight back, this is your issue.

Your know what women are miserable, ones in Iran who are being imprisoned for riding push bikes, taking off headscarfs or being executed for being raped. or the women in Malaysia who are whipped for talking to men outside her family. Women in Russian who experience 'corrective r*pe' turn turn them straight. Girls in Africa having their clitoris's and vulvas cut off and sewn up.

So some women have dead-end jobs, so do men why are you only focusing on the women in such jobs, because you hate the fact women are free to do as they want, your fragile ego needs half the population to be subjugated so you feel extra special and superior. Your the one whose miserable, it oozes out of your comments. You want people to think its feminists thats the problem, then really its your life by the sounds of it, your projecting
 






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It personal because you are attacking women for having jobs, trying to play a game where you assume women hate working, that they have been enslaved by feminism. your title for this thread is women are miserable with feminism, what did you expect? for women to just lie back and accept what you said, you dont expect women to fight back, this is your issue.

Your know what women are miserable, ones in Iran who are being imprisoned for riding push bikes, taking off headscarfs or being executed for being raped. or the women in Malaysia who are whipped for talking to men outside her family. Women in Russian who experience 'corrective r*pe' turn turn them straight. Girls in Africa having their clitoris's and vulvas cut off and sewn up.

So some women have dead-end jobs, so do men why are you only focusing on the women in such jobs, because you hate the fact women are free to do as they want, your fragile ego needs half the population to be subjugated so you feel extra special and superior. Your the one whose miserable, it oozes out of your comments. You want people to think its feminists thats the problem, then really its your life by the sounds of it, your projecting
This mindset that has been instilled in you is exactly the problem. Taking extreme and isolated examples in the world to keep fear alive of the male population to the point where its irrational and even unfounded.

Your the one that fears the opposite gender and not me and it shows in your comments.
 






kerrichinchilla

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This mindset that has been instilled in you is exactly the problem. Taking extreme and isolated examples in the world to keep fear alive of the male population to the point where its irrational and even unfounded.

Your the one that fears the opposite gender and not me and it shows in your comments.
I dont fear men, I love men, but then my dad treated me as a equal, taught me everything from car maintenance, building, baking and sewing. And he encouraged my interests even if they were traditional male ones. I also have a partner who sees me as equal encourages my independence, who does not see me as a cook, cleaner and sex slave.
However I fight for women who do not get my experience, ones whose genitals are mutilated, ones who are killed for liking the wrong boy, ones imprisoned for showing hair. And religions that encourage it or some men like your self use as an excuse to oppress women.

Your the one who is mis representing history, using a religious book known for its oppression and abuse of women, who hypercritically uses some women's misery as an excuse to try and oppress women more. Your the one who is upset women have rights and freedoms my dear
 






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I dont fear men, I love men, but then my dad treated me as a equal, taught me everything from car maintenance, building, baking and sewing. And he encouraged my interests even if they were traditional male ones. I also have a partner who sees me as equal encourages my independence, who does not see me as a cook, cleaner and sex slave.
However I fight for women who do not get my experience, ones whose genitals are mutilated, ones who are killed for liking the wrong boy, ones imprisoned for showing hair. And religions that encourage it or some men like your self use as an excuse to oppress women.

Your the one who is mis representing history, using a religious book known for its oppression and abuse of women, who hypercritically uses some women's misery as an excuse to try and oppress women more. Your the one who is upset women have rights and freedoms my dear
No, and you are doing a disservice and hurting both women and men with your emotional based dismissals of something that has deserved fair critique a generation since its movement came to be...
 






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This mindset that has been instilled in you is exactly the problem. Taking extreme and isolated examples in the world to keep fear alive of the male population to the point where its irrational and even unfounded.

Your the one that fears the opposite gender and not me and it shows in your comments.
Who fears men? I don’t fear men.. not as a group atleast.

I gave you a starting point for this “fair critique” and you’ve dismissed it without even bothering to look at it for two seconds. I spent three months out of my life looking into that fair critique and that’s what I came up with. At the time I was not a feminist, I was pissed that I was taking care of my son on my own, and I blamed closet lesbians for the whole mess. Expand your thinking - this isn’t man vs woman, this is the people vs the elite. Feminism is a symptom and a partial solution, not the cause.
 






kerrichinchilla

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No, and you are doing a disservice and hurting both women and men with your emotional based dismissals of something that has deserved fair critique a generation since its movement came to be...
arr yes saying women are emotion, a classic anti feminist defection. try getting a new argument
 






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Some of the women I am descended from

Domestic servant
Nail maker
Chain maker
Cook
Washer women
Farm labourer

There never was a time when women didn't work.
Just a time when they were property, wether they worked or not.
 






kerrichinchilla

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seriously though read the room, no one agrees with you and what three people have debunked your assertions in a few posts
 






Lyfe

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Some of the women I am descended from

Domestic servant
Nail maker
Chain maker
Cook
Washer women
Farm labourer

There never was a time when women didn't work.
Just a time when they were property, wether they worked or not.
Not your officially property of the workforce...
 






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I don't get why any thread about feminism devolve into 'so you don't want women to be free'.
Today's feminism has practically nothing to do with it's initial purpose.
Now it's just about humiliating biological men and shaming nuclear family hence why media push medically assisted procreation in the name of women's right.
Feminism is just a fancy name for female capitalism nowadays which could explain the lack of diversity among feminists since not every women can access the market.

Once you read a bit about matriarchy in traditional societies you understand feminism talking points only exist to antagonize people.
 






kerrichinchilla

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Not your officially property of the workforce...
again what about men? your so concerned about women being 'enslaved' by working but they do the same jobs as men, why the concern for one and not the other

At least with this supposed workforce enslavement, you get a wage, can buy things for your self, dont rely on a man, dont have to worry about staying with a man because he holds all the money so all the power
 






justjess

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I knew it would be you and jess as the two feminist representatives present here :)
Well that was a bit silly... I swore off feminist threads on this site long ago. I’m only looking cuz I’m tired of politics right now and use internet time as a reward for writing papers and doing chores and stuff lol.

what does it matter if I’m a feminist? I’m also a woman. One takes precedent over the other. Why is it always MEN making the majority of these complaints?

@Cintra that is awesome that you know that lineage, I personally have little clue about the majority of the women I’m descended from.
 






kerrichinchilla

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I don't get why any thread about feminism devolve into 'so you don't want women to be free'.
Today's feminism has practically nothing to do with it's initial purpose.
Now it's just about humiliating biological men and shaming nuclear family hence why media push medically assisted procreation in the name of women's right.
Feminism is just a fancy name for female capitalism nowadays which could explain the lack of diversity among feminists since not every women can access the market.

Once you read a bit about matriarchy in traditional societies you understand feminism talking points only exist to antagonize people.
again with the misinformation. look at my feminism post, your using the same tired argument's anti feminists have used since day one. get some new material. no one is shaming the nuclear family, feminism is about choice, the right to choose if you want to be a wife and mother, and anyway the nuclear family is a modern invention, invented by the Victorians, and later adopted by the 1950s era. and each time it fails, because it does not work for any one but middle class people as already stated women have always worked, on the farm, in the industrial revolution they moved into the factories, mines, mills, they worked as domestic servants. there has never been a time when women did not work, stayed home, cooked cleaned and serviced men. Even elite women worked in the royal courts as hand maids, dressers, stitchers.

Anti feminists have been using the man hating argument since feminism began, these posters are over 100 years old and its the same argument your using
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and again feminism is not a one fits all ive shown its diverse, get some new arguments.
 






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I don't get why any thread about feminism devolve into 'so you don't want women to be free'.
Today's feminism has practically nothing to do with it's initial purpose.
Now it's just about humiliating biological men and shaming nuclear family hence why media push medically assisted procreation in the name of women's right.
Feminism is just a fancy name for female capitalism nowadays which could explain the lack of diversity among feminists since not every women can access the market.

Once you read a bit about matriarchy in traditional societies you understand feminism talking points only exist to antagonize people.
Feminists are too proud and even fearful that what we know as the feminist movement turned out to in actuality not even benefit what is vital/ relevant to MOST women, families, and even children in the long run... They gained a lifetime in the workforce basically at the expense and trade off of off a more family oriented life.
 






justjess

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Feminists are too proud and even fearful that what we know as the feminist movement turned out to in actuality not even benefit what is vital/ relevant to MOST women, families, and even children in the long run... They gained a lifetime in the workforce basically at the expense and trade off of off a more family oriented life.
Are we too proud? Or are you to stubborn to even LOOK at the other theory I just spoon fed to you? Isn’t that pride itself? So sure your correct you won’t even research an alternative explanation?
 






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