Female Speaker Says Women Need To Grow Hair Long And Submit To Men

[Tatilina]

Hair don't mean shit, just a cultural choice. Do what you want.

I think men who are heterosexual would rather women have medium length to long hair than biosexual men who probably prefer shorter hair and the butch type of women.

 

[Dan]

I think men who are heterosexual would rather women have medium length to long hair than biosexual men who probably prefer shorter hair and the butch type of women.

Biosexual? I think you invented a new one there. What does it mean?

 

[Tatilina]

Biosexual? I think you invented a new one there. What does it mean?

A biosexual person is someone who likes both genders, it's not new lol. Oops, I mean Bisexual haha. I failed.

 

[JoChris]

A biosexual person is someone who likes both genders, it's not new lol. Oops, I mean Bisexual haha. I failed.

Someone who just has to reveal every eeny-teeny intimate detail about their love life in autobiographies or personal blogs?

 

[Tatilina]

Someone who just has to reveal every eeny-teeny intimate detail about their love life in autobiographies or personal blogs?

Lol.....you made me giggle.

 

[JoChris]

Lol.....you made me giggle.

Hmmm... IF it wasn't already in usage I wish I could put a copyright on that...

I was curious - Google has misspellings of Bisexual.

 

[Lady]

Hair don't mean shit, just a cultural choice. Do what you want.

Male pattern baldness?

 

[Todd]

Well for all the Christian women who argued with me that Paul was a true Apostle and that his writings are the word of God, I guess I just assumed that they all have long hair and that they do not pray with their head uncovered. Is this not so?

 

[Lady]

Well for all the Christian women who argued with me that Paul was a true Apostle and that his writings are the word of God, I guess I just assumed that they all have long hair and that they do not pray with their head uncovered. Is this not so?

 

[Todd]

Daughter, this is deflection!
But that's fine, I didn't really expect a response

 

[Dan]

A biosexual person is someone who likes both genders, it's not new lol. Oops, I mean Bisexual haha. I failed.

Heh, I was messing with you there. Biodegradablesexual is coming next.

 

[Tatilina]

Yeah, that belongs in the Paul thread I made lol.

 

[Tatilina]

Duaghter, this is deflection!
But that's fine, I didn't really expect a response

It belongs in the Paul thread I created Todd...

 

[manama]

Maybe she is just working for the shampoo industry behind the close doors.

Ads are getting smarter

 

[Violette]

Well for all the Christian women who argued with me that Paul was a true Apostle and that his writings are the word of God, I guess I just assumed that they all have long hair and that they do not pray with their head uncovered. Is this not so?

That wouldn't be necessary for the culture we live in today. The women of the church back then wore veils in submission to their husbands, those they did not wear them were seen as rebellious or were temple prostitutes so it was simply culturally inappropriate at the time for women to not wear their head coverings. I believe the point of 1 Corinthians 11:3-15 is to establish appropriate gender roles and to make it clear that women should have feminine hair and males should have masculine hair. It doesn't say you can't cut your hair.

 

[Todd]

That wouldn't be necessary for the culture we live in today. The women of the church back then wore veils in submission to their husbands, those they did not wear them were seen as rebellious or were temple prostitutes so it was simply culturally inappropriate at the time for women to not wear their head coverings. I believe the point of 1 Corinthians 11:3-15 is to establish appropriate gender roles and to make it clear that women should have feminine hair and males should have masculine hair. It doesn't say you can't cut your hair.

So what you are saying is that God defers to cultural norms when he gives commands in his word?

 

[Violette]

So what you are saying is that God defers to cultural norms when he gives commands in his word?

No, God wants women to look like women and men to look like men. He also wants Christian women to submit to their husbands and not look like prostitutes. Cultures change but the core principle is the same

 

[Todd]

No, God wants women to look like women and men to look like men. He also doesn't want Christian women to submit to their husbands and not look like prostitutes. Cultures change but the core principle is the same

But Paul was talking about what women did when they prayed, not what they looked like in public? Why in the world would a culture concept apply to a private spiritual act?

 

[Violette]

But Paul was talking about what women did when they prayed, not what they looked like in public? Why in the world would a culture concept apply to a private spiritual act?

The women wore veils to show submission to the husband, showing up to church without it was disrespectful and culturally confusing. If women today went to church dressed the same way as prostitutes you don't think that would be weird? Culture and spirituality are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Todd]

The women wore veils to show submission to the husband, showing up to church without it was disrespectful and culturally confusing. If women today went to church dressed the same way as prostitutes you don't think that would be weird? Culture and spirituality are not mutually exclusive.

Sorry, I don't believe God is mindful of culture.....his standards are his standards. Now I don't have a problem if Paul was simply condoning following some cultural norms so as not to offend unbelievers within their own culture, but that is clearly not what the passage was inferring. The context of the passage was the glory of man and the glory of woman and how woman should not pray with their heads uncovered. Your culture argument is dismissing the fact that Paul was teaching a spritual concept not pandoring to cultural norms.

Read the full context of 1 Corinthians 11:1-16 and tell me where Paul mentions anything about this being about culture. In fact in verse one he is saying that he considers the things he is delivering to them as ordinances, i.e. commands. I do not accept that God's commands vary based on the times or the culture of the world. You are headed down a slippery slope when you start doing that...

Anyways I'm done talking about this. We both agree it doesn't apply, although for very different reasons, so what's the point of continuing to debate it?