female separatism

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I actually never heard about this concept until someone posted a video where a radical feminist mentionned it. I looked deeper into it and realized I was pretty much already a female separatist in that I avoid interactions and relationships(of any type) with men as much as I can. I just didn't have a word for it.

Female separatism doesn't mean you have to go live in the desert. It just means you don't prioritize men and only let them in your life if, and only if they have proven that they can be trusted.

Tbf, I think it's the only solution left for women. Don't be a sell out. Men have been telling yall who they are, they've been raping and killing women and girls since the beginning of time. Most women will keep sucking men's dick and slave for them day in day out. Those of us who aren't brainwashed worshippers of men will prioritize our safety and well-being.

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Hi, great post! Regarding the quote about “worshiping trash,” women are BRAINWASHED from little girls to believe in bullshit, made up, bullsh*t lies by the patriarchy. Hopefully, eventually, all women will open their eyes to reality and learn the art and personal freedom of thinking for themselves. Most of us females who grow up in the USA are brought up to me “non threatening,” “agreeable,” “a lady,” “nice,” “friendly,” “non offensive,” “submissive,” “quiet,” “non argumentative,” etc. We are not taught to defend ourselves verbally or physically, if need be. If we do, we are called “a bitch,” “a c**t,” etc. to silence us back into submission (our place). We are not taught anything remotely “empowering,” “spiritual,” “independent,” etc. Most parents pressure their female children to get married and get pregnant, (to selfishly “give them” grandchildren), Heterosexuality is usually assumed and if the girl happens to be bisexual, a lesbian, trans, etc., she HOPEFULLY will be blessed with open minded, non judgmental parents who accept snd love her regardless of her sexual orientation. The unlucky females are unfortunately possibly disowned, thrown out, put down, cut off (financially, if she’s a trust fund kid), and worse. The thing that really pisses me off is that we are usually taught to be “trusting,” which has the possibility of being a deadly mistake. Trust must be EARNED, and it’s true, most guys than not DO have questionable intentions with (usually) naive teenage girls. It really depends in what sort of environment she grows up in. City girls are (again, usually) are MUCH more street smart, they are exposed to much more culture, different types of people, situations, etc. then a teen girl who is raised in a small town and who has been “sheltered” her entire life. I chose not to have kids because I personally would make myself sick with worry that my daughter (if I had a girl) would be exposed to some of the undesirable people, situations, etc. that I have, and maybe worse things, in this day and age! My father treated my brother much differently than myself once I became a teenager (I was an early developer haha)! But when I was a little girl, I was the son he never had. I played with dolls (in my own sick way; chopped off their hair, made them play out some pretty demented scenarios if you want the truth)...haha! My dad encouraged I play little league (Only two girls on the team-I was designated hitter & played second base)! I was a better player than most of the boys! There’s a big, fat blue book on Lesbian Separatism. I forget the name of it, but I highly recommend you google it and check it out. I have dated both men and women in my life (I’m openly bisexual). I survived nightmarish domestic violence with my last two ex boyfriends and was almost killed (a few times), and realized: “I never ever had these horrible issues when I was only dating women.” I will never waste my time with an “alpha male” again. I’m an Aries woman, and am a force to be reckoned with. Both of those men abused me both emotionally and physically very, very badly. I’m lucky to still be alive. I can speculate why they did it: they thought women were all inherently “second class citizens,” and our dysfunctional relationship was never based on “equality.” THEY had to always be in charge. Sometimes they acted like they were my father! They claimed I “talked back” to them, and they both said I was “too opinionated,” one always told me to “shut up,” and that “I talk too much,” etc. They both tried to kill my self esteem, pride, and ego. That is DEFINITELY NOT a “loving relationship!” Many heterosexual women are quite delusional regarding men and “love.” Bad, manipulative men say “I love you” just to keep the woman under their control and brainwashed. In certain other countries, the misogyny is SO much worse than here!!! WHY?!? Look at Iran, Iraq, Africa, Saudi Arabia, China, etc! Why are us women hated, raped, murdered, sexually harassed, abused, and devalued ALL OVER our ENTIRE Planet Earth?!?!?!!!
 






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Hi, great post! Regarding the quote about “worshiping trash,” women are BRAINWASHED from little girls to believe in bullshit, made up, bullsh*t lies by the patriarchy. Hopefully, eventually, all women will open their eyes to reality and learn the art and personal freedom of thinking for themselves. Most of us females who grow up in the USA are brought up to me “non threatening,” “agreeable,” “a lady,” “nice,” “friendly,” “non offensive,” “submissive,” “quiet,” “non argumentative,” etc. We are not taught to defend ourselves verbally or physically, if need be. If we do, we are called “a bitch,” “a c**t,” etc. to silence us back into submission (our place). We are not taught anything remotely “empowering,” “spiritual,” “independent,” etc. Most parents pressure their female children to get married and get pregnant, (to selfishly “give them” grandchildren), Heterosexuality is usually assumed and if the girl happens to be bisexual, a lesbian, trans, etc., she HOPEFULLY will be blessed with open minded, non judgmental parents who accept snd love her regardless of her sexual orientation. The unlucky females are unfortunately possibly disowned, thrown out, put down, cut off (financially, if she’s a trust fund kid), and worse. The thing that really pisses me off is that we are usually taught to be “trusting,” which has the possibility of being a deadly mistake. Trust must be EARNED, and it’s true, most guys than not DO have questionable intentions with (usually) naive teenage girls. It really depends in what sort of environment she grows up in. City girls are (again, usually) are MUCH more street smart, they are exposed to much more culture, different types of people, situations, etc. then a teen girl who is raised in a small town and who has been “sheltered” her entire life. I chose not to have kids because I personally would make myself sick with worry that my daughter (if I had a girl) would be exposed to some of the undesirable people, situations, etc. that I have, and maybe worse things, in this day and age! My father treated my brother much differently than myself once I became a teenager (I was an early developer haha)! But when I was a little girl, I was the son he never had. I played with dolls (in my own sick way; chopped off their hair, made them play out some pretty demented scenarios if you want the truth)...haha! My dad encouraged I play little league (Only two girls on the team-I was designated hitter & played second base)! I was a better player than most of the boys! There’s a big, fat blue book on Lesbian Separatism. I forget the name of it, but I highly recommend you google it and check it out. I have dated both men and women in my life (I’m openly bisexual). I survived nightmarish domestic violence with my last two ex boyfriends and was almost killed (a few times), and realized: “I never ever had these horrible issues when I was only dating women.” I will never waste my time with an “alpha male” again. I’m an Aries woman, and am a force to be reckoned with. Both of those men abused me both emotionally and physically very, very badly. I’m lucky to still be alive. I can speculate why they did it: they thought women were all inherently “second class citizens,” and our dysfunctional relationship was never based on “equality.” THEY had to always be in charge. Sometimes they acted like they were my father! They claimed I “talked back” to them, and they both said I was “too opinionated,” one always told me to “shut up,” and that “I talk too much,” etc. They both tried to kill my self esteem, pride, and ego. That is DEFINITELY NOT a “loving relationship!” Many heterosexual women are quite delusional regarding men and “love.” Bad, manipulative men say “I love you” just to keep the woman under their control and brainwashed. In certain other countries, the misogyny is SO much worse than here!!! WHY?!? Look at Iran, Iraq, Africa, Saudi Arabia, China, etc! Why are us women hated, raped, murdered, sexually harassed, abused, and devalued ALL OVER our ENTIRE Planet Earth?!?!?!!!
It's not always the domineering types who exhibit misogyny. Think of the nerdy types who become incels and send death and r*pe threats to women on the internet. Rapists and misogynists do not have a profile. But I agree that women lie to themselves and convince themselves that men are inherently good in order to keep them in their lives, it's a coping mechanism.
 






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Lonely men and women often say "I wish I had somebody to care for and be cared for by", and that's how it should be, for example i've been trying to find a warm loving woman to care for for years without success because they're usually all married or are in steady relationships and i've missed my chance, especially as I'm 72 years old (sniffle)
But I can care for them in other ways, for example a young homeless lady and two homeless blokes were huddled in a church porch the other week so I gave them a handout.
And a young lady postwoman just delivered a package to me so I gave her £20 and wished her merry christmas..
 






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Separatism is actually the solution to male supremacy. They're not gonna do it bc women care more about sucking dick (literally and metaphorically) than they do about liberation. I hold women responsible for being to weak to stand up to men and their system. The rights that we have gained are the just the crumbs that men were willing to hand us.
Women have been submissive to men for centuries, and only recently did we attempt to gain some power in the world. Many women are too weak to challenge the established order.
 






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Separatism is actually the solution to male supremacy. They're not gonna do it bc women care more about sucking dick (literally and metaphorically) than they do about liberation. I hold women responsible for being to weak to stand up to men and their system. The rights that we have gained are the just the crumbs that men were willing to hand us.
Women have been submissive to men for centuries, and only recently did we attempt to gain some power in the world. Many women are too weak to challenge the established order.
I disagree, women as a whole have only had any form of equality for what 100 years, in some countries non at all. Women and girls are trained and told to care, be weak and they are lesser humans from the moment they are born. Every mainstream religion has some form of sexism based on women, from telling them periods are dirty and can contaminate temples or kill crops to being told they are half a person. Societies have always told women they are lesser, weak and just not on par to men.
This grooming and brainwashing is hard to wash off, centuries and centuries have taught women to be submissive only care about what men want, even stroke their ego and never act like your more intelligent.

Then there are men who are taught the same thing, they are the only ones who matter, they are always right. if your a woman say no to a man and see how he reacts its quite a thing. Once in a meeting i told a guy he was wrong and explained how, showing him evidence, he looked like id stabbed him in the chest, and the rest of the men in the room looked either uncomfortable or angry. Men are taught their feelings matter more, women are their to care for them.

combine the two and well you have a storm of compliance and oppression. Its understandable why many women think they exist to serve and appease. While other women become separatists. Its not about sucking dick, its about societal brainwashing thats in our DNA, its hard to wash off.
 






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Everyone gets brainwashed. But I don't think it's that hard to break free.

Men and women have to know their worth and stand their ground. The real issue is power dynamics and the fact that many people are actually afraid to impose their will. People with a lot of empathy, especially, don't want to feel dirty or cruel, so they let people run them over.

My advice is don't fear becoming the thing you hate. Instead, embrace the dark side of empathy, and experience the full range of your power. Hate, jealousy, envy, sadness are all tools for you to utilize, and nothing more. They are the weapons to help you impose your will and get what you actually want out of life.

I've talked about it before, how people sacrifice power for comfort. That's the wrong move, and it's why most of the world is a total mess. I know this because I just tested the theory. And found out that most of the comfort gained is illusionary at best. In essence, people are just opting to get torn down less often.

Better to sit at the top of your own hill.
 






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Everyone gets brainwashed. But I don't think it's that hard to break free.

Men and women have to know their worth and stand their ground. The real issue is power dynamics and the fact that many people are actually afraid to impose their will. People with a lot of empathy, especially, don't want to feel dirty or cruel, so they let people run them over.

My advice is don't fear becoming the thing you hate. Instead, embrace the dark side of empathy, and experience the full range of your power. Hate, jealousy, envy, sadness are all tools for you to utilize, and nothing more. They are the weapons to help you impose your will and get what you actually want out of life.

I've talked about it before, how people sacrifice power for comfort. That's the wrong move, and it's why most of the world is a total mess. I know this because I just tested the theory. And found out that most of the comfort gained is illusionary at best. In essence, people are just opting to get torn down less often.

Better to sit at the top of your own hill.
Brainwashing is incredibly easy to acquire and incredibly hard to fully wash off. Look at any cult, it's the same principles.
 






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I disagree, women as a whole have only had any form of equality for what 100 years, in some countries non at all. Women and girls are trained and told to care, be weak and they are lesser humans from the moment they are born. Every mainstream religion has some form of sexism based on women, from telling them periods are dirty and can contaminate temples or kill crops to being told they are half a person. Societies have always told women they are lesser, weak and just not on par to men.
This grooming and brainwashing is hard to wash off, centuries and centuries have taught women to be submissive only care about what men want, even stroke their ego and never act like your more intelligent.

Then there are men who are taught the same thing, they are the only ones who matter, they are always right. if your a woman say no to a man and see how he reacts its quite a thing. Once in a meeting i told a guy he was wrong and explained how, showing him evidence, he looked like id stabbed him in the chest, and the rest of the men in the room looked either uncomfortable or angry. Men are taught their feelings matter more, women are their to care for them.
That's stupid to wait for your oppressor to give you rights. News flash they're never gonna do it. They'll keep you subordinated and won't stop enacting their violence agst you no matter what.
Instead of finding new ways to navigate the system, women should just divest from the system permanently. Yall look foolish trying to guilt-trip men into having empathy for yall conditon. They don't care, they put you in this position. If men wanted to give you rights and equality they would have done it a hundred years ago.
That's why I said women care more about validation from men than they do about liberation.

combine the two and well you have a storm of compliance and oppression. Its understandable why many women think they exist to serve and appease. While other women become separatists. Its not about sucking dick, its about societal brainwashing thats in our DNA, its hard to wash off.
That why I don't identify with femininity or even with the word "woman", those words were created by my oppressors. I don't identify with being weak and submissive.
 






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Brainwashing is incredibly easy to acquire and incredibly hard to fully wash off. Look at any cult, it's the same principles.
It depends on a lot of variables. I think the reality is a lot of people are poorly educated, and as the old G.I Joe slogan goes. Knowing is half of the battle. If people don't know what they are dealing with, it's easy to fall into the traps.

I recently had a narcissist try to get her claws in me. And a lot of that is my fault, for seeing the best in people. I also saw some opportunity for redemption through her, but I now know she isn't even a real person. I'm not mad or anything, I care about her and want her to get help. In her case, it's as you say, though. Her childhood trauma must be so deeply ingrained that a bleach bath couldn't wash off her corpse stench.

The key here is to teach people to get validation internally, not externally. Of course, it's not that easy, like it will take real effort. Plus a lot of the brainwash victims don't know what they are. So we also have to teach them to be self-aware.
 






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Separatism is actually the solution to male supremacy. They're not gonna do it bc women care more about sucking dick (literally and metaphorically) than they do about liberation. I hold women responsible for being to weak to stand up to men and their system. The rights that we have gained are the just the crumbs that men were willing to hand us.
Women have been submissive to men for centuries, and only recently did we attempt to gain some power in the world. Many women are too weak to challenge the established order.
That's stupid to wait for your oppressor to give you rights. News flash they're never gonna do it. They'll keep you subordinated and won't stop enacting their violence agst you no matter what.
Instead of finding new ways to navigate the system, women should just divest from the system permanently. Yall look foolish trying to guilt-trip men into having empathy for yall conditon. They don't care, they put you in this position. If men wanted to give you rights and equality they would have done it a hundred years ago.
That's why I said women care more about validation from men than they do about liberation.


That why I don't identify with femininity or even with the word "woman", those words were created by my oppressors. I don't identify with being weak and submissive.
At the end of the day you can only talk the way you do because men created an order to society that gives you the protection to do so. This same society would completely fall apart if all men weren’t here to do all the things they do. Yet would continue running if you were to flip the scenario and say all women weren’t here. Because the infrastructure could continue running as it’s mostly men that run the jobs that keep society moving. Whether it’s police, plumbing, electrical, oil rigging etc to name a few. You’re talking about women separating from men when they couldnt do that and enjoy the same quality of life they do.

And you can identify as a tree, rock, airplane or blade grass. Anything really. But what you choose to identify yourself as doesn’t change what you actually are. Which is a woman. A being that was created for a certain purpose. You can shirk that purpose when a society affords you or even pushes you to do so. But when the lights go out, everything reverts to natural instincts. And naturally speaking it’s always the (upright) man leads and the (upright) woman follows.
 






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That's stupid to wait for your oppressor to give you rights. News flash they're never gonna do it. They'll keep you subordinated and won't stop enacting their violence agst you no matter what.
Instead of finding new ways to navigate the system, women should just divest from the system permanently. Yall look foolish trying to guilt-trip men into having empathy for yall conditon. They don't care, they put you in this position. If men wanted to give you rights and equality they would have done it a hundred years ago.
That's why I said women care more about validation from men than they do about liberation.


That why I don't identify with femininity or even with the word "woman", those words were created by my oppressors. I don't identify with being weak and submissive.
yes but brainwashing is very powerful, look at the women who gladly join religions that treat them as less than human
 






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Separatism is actually the solution to male supremacy. They're not gonna do it bc women care more about sucking dick (literally and metaphorically) than...
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Your name suits you.

If I may... in what generation do you fall? Millennial, post-millenial.. ? Or I could just be rude and assume (as I already have tbh) you are in your twenties, based on the scathing and shortsighted commentary. Just curious. :)
 






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Yup, maybe a shrink can explain how womens minds work because neither me, Picard nor Data have a clue:D

I haven’t a clue either. We live in times where people take advantage of one another. Man, woman, black, white, brown, yellow etc. People are just cold hearted these days
 






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I never married because I never wanted to be a family man, (I'd have felt tied down) and I've never had a longterm ladyfriend because I simply never met one on my wavelength.
But my soppy male protective instinct sometimes makes me wish I had a woman to love and care for and tell her how beautiful and precious she is to me and buy her diamonds and things.
That instinct once kicked in when I saw a lady in a wheelchair pushing herself up a hill in the city centre so i cheerily said "Hi, let me give you a push", but she snapped back "NO THANK YOU!" without even glancing at me, and rolled away.
Huh you try to be nice (sniffle)..
 






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yeah no. I don't believe in this brainwashing bs and this internalized misoyny excuse, especially after a certain age. Past a certain age you should know better.
That's why feminism is designed to fail and men don't take "feminists" seriously.
Any time a new story abt male violence comes up, all they have to give is this empty talk about "men need to be taught to stop raping women", "men need to start respecting us". All talk and no real action.
Separatism is the real solution. Withdrawing your ressources from males is the most significant step you can take as a woman to override male supremacy.

women who reject separatism should just be honest with themselves: you don't want to give up dick, you don't want to give up access to a man's income and you don't want to give up all the privilege that comes from cooperating with the oppressor. That's it.
 






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All talk and no real action.
Separatism is the real solution. Withdrawing your ressources from males is the most significant step you can take as a woman to override male supremacy.

women who reject separatism should just be honest with themselves: you don't want to give up dick, you don't want to give up access to a man's income and you don't want to give up all the privilege that comes from cooperating with the oppressor. That's it.
Hmm..

...you don't want to give up dick,
you don't want to give up access to a man's income and
you don't want to give up all the privilege that comes from cooperating with the oppressor.

All the Privilege... really?

I find myself questioning your authenticity, now.

Slinging judgment at other women is not going to further your cause. It makes you sound like an emo troll (or incel- I believe that is the term), rather than an angry woman who is sincerely aggrieved by Male entitlement.
 






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i am against feminism but i agree with u that there needs to be a degree of gender segregation. the only men that women should have close relations with is family & husband. freemixing is harmful for individuals & society
 






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