female separatism

Maes17

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Female separatism makes a good philosophical argument. MGTOW doesn't.
I’ll agree in you shouldn’t prioritize someone.
We’re responsible for our own emotions/happiness. We shouldn’t have to put that on others. Of course I say that cause I do put a sense of happiness/trust into my wife.


But I do think man/woman companionship should be celebrated.
To me, I see this more of another attack on a hetero family unit
 

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I’ll agree in you shouldn’t prioritize someone.
We’re responsible for our own emotions/happiness. We shouldn’t have to put that on others. Of course I say that cause I do put a sense of happiness/trust into my wife.


But I do think man/woman companionship should be celebrated.
To me, I see this more of another attack on a hetero family unit
We mostly agree.

MGTOW is basically an outright rejection of the nuclear family. Female separatism seems more about trying to create only the best nuclear families. At least, that's what I got out of it.
 

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if women did what they were told, they wouldnt need a good beating.
or are you racist against muslims?

What a despicable human being. This disgusting man is almost as bad these Evangelical Christians who beat their wives drunk half time in the name of their Savior. Or are we being racist against Christians now?

"It is widely accepted by abuse experts (and validated by numerous studies) that evangelical men who sporadically attend church are more likely than men of any other religious group (and more likely than secular men) to assault their wives"

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/domestic-violence-church-submit-to-husbands/8652028?nw=0
 

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We mostly agree.

MGTOW is basically an outright rejection of the nuclear family. Female separatism seems more about trying to create only the best nuclear families. At least, that's what I got out of it.
Both MGTOW and female separatism are pretty much a different branch, same tree.

Female separatism. I do support the fact in not prioritizing men. The same can be said for guys. Don’t prioritize someone. People who get in relationships and intend for their partner to be their whole source of happiness. I’ll contradict myself and I admit that I do put a bit of my happiness and trust into my wife. Just as she does for me.

But I don’t expect it out of us 24/7. Our boys are our first priorities then making a living for us. Our support to get through that is expected but sometimes we need a breather away from everyone. Her breather is arts/crafts. Mine is working out or detailing our vehicles.

So in sharing that^^^ that’s my gist of a nuclear/stable family.

Anything involving feminism/toxic masculinity just creates more rifts imo.
 

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Somebody mentioned other religions attitudes to women; personally I think that bloke from Nazareth knew how to treat 'em proper; he used to go around rescuing them from stone-throwing mobs..



He probably knew they'd be there for him at the end, so he made sure he was always there for them when he was alive..

 

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It is my observation that MGTOW is the only rational and safe response to the hyper hypergamy that has been trending in this country for quite some time. Women are hypergamous by nature and nowadays most marriages will end in divorce and it is women who initiate nearly most divorces and are generally able to take the kids and get child support and other fees from the man. I briefly delved into MGTOW after experiencing much of the same things it points out after the last two relationships I was in.
 
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I’ll agree in you shouldn’t prioritize someone.
We’re responsible for our own emotions/happiness. We shouldn’t have to put that on others. Of course I say that cause I do put a sense of happiness/trust into my wife.


But I do think man/woman companionship should be celebrated.
To me, I see this more of another attack on a hetero family unit
people should just do what makes them happy.

My only issue with the MGTOWs is the fact they act like being single and avoiding relationships is a new thing and somehow they are going to destroy society and scare women into obedience.
Many people prefer being single for a number of reasons, religion, preference, asexuals, career driven, prefer own company, mistrust, past abuse. monks, nuns and priests have made a career of it and i respect a persons choice to be single.

people should be left to do what they want as long as it does not harm others.
 
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Having read the article, I can understand idea... But I also think that separatism can breed alienation, alienation can breed division, and division is how the system wins and maintains the status quo. For there to be any real change, marginalized people need to unite with allies, and we need to realize that the powers that be are the real enemy.









hypergamy
Doesn't exist.
 

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Having read the article, I can understand idea... But I also think that separatism can breed alienation, alienation can breed division, and division is how the system wins and maintains the status quo. For there to be any real change, marginalized people need to unite with allies, and we need to realize that the powers that be are the real enemy.











Doesn't exist.
Sure it does. It is a woman's biological imperative to desire to mate and pair with males she feels are of superior status than hers. Studies show that women at large have preference to date upward in terms of men with higher status, financial income, and prestige than of their own selves and rarely ever date someone of inferior class than themselves. It is designed in them as a survival instinct mechanism to seek out men who demonstrate dominant traits that can not only ensure her survival, but also the survival of her offspring. Even back in the tribal days women would seek out alpha males, because they demonstrated above other men they had a stronger means to acquire resources to ensure their survival. I was left not that long ago by a single mother for a guy who had a bigger house and a bigger truck than I did lol. Why? Because of her default biological imperative as the weaker sex to seek out a man who is of higher value than I am to better ensure the survival of herself and her offspring. Women can only be attracted to men of higher value than they are and they rarely ever date down. Women innately acknowledge they are the weaker sex, but it was more realized within them for the better part of history, because they were dependent on hunters and gatherers for their survival. Now we live in an age of industry and convenience so its not as much realized, but the same biological default setting within them still remains... It is their survival instinct. Allot of women will monkey branch and move unto someone higher on the tree once they realize they have safely secured that branch.
 
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Sure it does. It is a woman's biological imperative to desire to mate and pair with males she feels are of superior status than hers. Studies show that women at large have preference to date upward in terms of men with higher status, financial income, and prestige than of their own selves and rarely ever date someone of inferior class than themselves. It is designed in them as a survival instinct mechanism to seek out men who demonstrate dominant traits that can not only ensure her survival, but also the survival of her offspring. Even back in the tribal days women would seek out alpha males, because they demonstrated above other men they had a stronger means to acquire resources to ensure their survival. I was left not that long ago by a single mother for a guy who had a bigger house and a bigger truck than I did lol. Why? Because of her default biological imperative as the weaker sex to seek out a man who is of higher value than I am to better ensure the survival of herself and her offspring. Women can only be attracted to men of higher value than they are and they rarely ever date down. Women innately acknowledge they are the weaker sex, but it was more realized within them for the better part of history, because they were dependent on hunters and gatherers for their survival. Now we live in an age of industry and convenience so its not as much realized, but the same biological default setting within them still remains... It is their survival instinct. Allot of women will monkey branch and move unto someone higher on the tree once they realize they have safely secured that branch.
I don't agree with everything here but I do agree with you on the part with women marrying or dating men in a similar social standing or higher. The research has been pretty clear here that women date equal to or higher in regards to social and economic standings while men date equal to or lower in regards to social and economic standings.
 

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I probably wouldn't have agreed with everything either until I read these two books a while back...

Develop Attraction by Chris Canwell

The Rational Male by Rollo Tamassi
 
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I actually never heard about this concept until someone posted a video where a radical feminist mentionned it. I looked deeper into it and realized I was pretty much already a female separatist in that I avoid interactions and relationships(of any type) with men as much as I can. I just didn't have a word for it.

Female separatism doesn't mean you have to go live in the desert. It just means you don't prioritize men and only let them in your life if, and only if they have proven that they can be trusted.

Tbf, I think it's the only solution left for women. Don't be a sell out. Men have been telling yall who they are, they've been raping and killing women and girls since the beginning of time. Most women will keep sucking men's dick and slave for them day in day out. Those of us who aren't brainwashed worshippers of men will prioritize our safety and well-being.

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Lol...well I completely disagree with all your opinions about men. I love men. I love my husband, my brothers and my father. I love my Uncles and my male friends. Separating people sounds like some kind of freaky, weird dystopian sh*t. The family is all important and God made woman to be with man - that’s just the way it is.
 

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They say men love with their eyes, and women love with their ears.
 

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..these Evangelical Christians who beat their wives drunk half time in the name of their Savior.

Funny, I don't know a single Christian who treats women bad; on the contrary every Christian I know wants to treat women like a queen and tell them how precious and important they are, just like JC did.. :)

 

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It is a woman's biological imperative to desire to mate and pair with males she feels are of superior status than hers.

Yet oddly enough, such marriages to powerful/famous men often end in divorce, the list is as long as your arm, why is that?
 
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Sure it does. It is a woman's biological imperative to desire to mate and pair with males she feels are of superior status than hers. Studies show that women at large have preference to date upward in terms of men with higher status, financial income, and prestige than of their own selves and rarely ever date someone of inferior class than themselves. It is designed in them as a survival instinct mechanism to seek out men who demonstrate dominant traits that can not only ensure her survival, but also the survival of her offspring. Even back in the tribal days women would seek out alpha males, because they demonstrated above other men they had a stronger means to acquire resources to ensure their survival. I was left not that long ago by a single mother for a guy who had a bigger house and a bigger truck than I did lol. Why? Because of her default biological imperative as the weaker sex to seek out a man who is of higher value than I am to better ensure the survival of herself and her offspring. Women can only be attracted to men of higher value than they are and they rarely ever date down. Women innately acknowledge they are the weaker sex, but it was more realized within them for the better part of history, because they were dependent on hunters and gatherers for their survival. Now we live in an age of industry and convenience so its not as much realized, but the same biological default setting within them still remains... It is their survival instinct. Allot of women will monkey branch and move unto someone higher on the tree once they realize they have safely secured that branch.
First off lesbians exist.

Secondly women didn't really choose who they 'mated' with, it was chosen for them. Thirdly women who did chose, which was very rare, usually did due to the fact they could not work themselves, the only way to make sure they were financially secure was to marry well. Finally the fact people exist who are descendents of slaves or the poor means women did have relations with poor men.

You sound like an incel who's listens to, to much black pigeon
There is no weaker sex, there is no biological drive, plenty of women date down, as you put it, especially in the modern era when women can train, get educations and work with out being banned by men, in fact I am one of them, the thing is I don't treat myself as dating down, and I don't see my partner as lesser than me, I have a master degree and work in the historical sector, my partner makes boxes in a box factory, I don't see him as any less than me, to me he's a hard working man. I'm not the only one I know many women who have partners who have no education, earn less or are not as intelligent.
This incel/mgtow sexism is just an excuse men use to 1/stroke their egos, no men aren't the better sex, women aren't the weaker 2/ make excuses for their own failing.

Lastly women are not weaker due to needing men to provide, the fact is society ( which was run by men) banned women from education, leadership roles and working, using things like religion as an excuse. In fact it has been discovered women were likely the inventors of agriculture and farming due to them being the gatherers, they realised they could plant and harvest themselves making life easier.
 
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Funny, I don't know a single Christian who treats women bad; on the contrary every Christian I know wants to treat women like a queen and tell them how precious and important they are, just like JC did.. :)

Yeah stoning, r*pe, torture, domestic violence and burning never happened to women by Christian men, and the Bible totally doesn't have any of the above things in it....oh wait.
 

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First off lesbians exist.

Secondly women didn't really choose who they 'mated' with, it was chosen for them. Thirdly women who did chose, which was very rare, usually did due to the fact they could not work themselves, the only way to make sure they were financially secure was to marry well. Finally the fact people exist who are descendents of slaves or the poor means women did have relations with poor men.

You sound like an incel who's listens to, to much black pigeon
There is no weaker sex, there is no biological drive, plenty of women date down, as you put it, especially in the modern era when women can train, get educations and work with out being banned by men, in fact I am one of them, the thing is I don't treat myself as dating down, and I don't see my partner as lesser than me, I have a master degree and work in the historical sector, my partner makes boxes in a box factory, I don't see him as any less than me, to me he's a hard working man. I'm not the only one I know many women who have partners who have no education, earn less or are not as intelligent.
This incel/mgtow sexism is just an excuse men use to 1/stroke their egos, no men aren't the better sex, women aren't the weaker 2/ make excuses for their own failing.

Lastly women are not weaker due to needing men to provide, the fact is society ( which was run by men) banned women from education, leadership roles and working, using things like religion as an excuse. In fact it has been discovered women were likely the inventors of agriculture and farming due to them being the gatherers, they realised they could plant and harvest themselves making life easier.
...Ok
 

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yeah ok. i dont read silly made up books, written by men who want to encourage sexism, i read real history books, backed up with science, evidence and research.
Then point out what is sexist and not backed by science and social studies in that original quote you responded to.
 
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