female separatism

[Nikōn]

By the way, the whole Exodus shit is myth. It’s not historically accurate so he’s a liar on top of everything else.

I repeat, doesn't this edgy provoker character get a bit tiring for you?

 

[Nikōn]

To bring something into this world for selfish reasons, the biggest being that you’re just horny is wrong.

So, if you do claim to represent what is natural, then under no circumstance is this axiom ever natural, nor can it ever actually have a point as an ideology to itself. It is also certainly completely contrary to Darwinian Evolution (or Evolution more broadly).
It is a far cry from abstaining from having kids.

 

[Nikōn]

Maybe we can make the best of it and do what’s possible to alleviate suffering.

Maybe I'm reading you esoterically here, so take it as a point separate from above, but the implication of these statements you have is basically that God equals Suffering, so ending childbirth equals killing God, which equals ending Suffering.

But then if you examine that further, if ending suffering alone is the end goal, then some form of meaning has to be presumed for that suffering to matter at all, making the ending of childbirth a logical contradiction.

 

[Nikōn]

You really want to compare your God to Cthulhu? You’re not helping your argument here bud.

No, I am conveying certain aesthetics through cultural memes to help you understand a Hebrew word used.

 

[Nikōn]

You know there is no goodness or love in what you worship.

It's too hard to avoid mentioning that you say this while espousing UFO-fanaticism, Socialism and Antinatalism, which do not reflect goodness or love in any way. Your answer to what you perceive my position to be is much worse.

 

[Nikōn]

Reproduce for what @Nikōn ? So that your God can have more playthings?

If you are just the plaything of a 'childish demon', a product of reproduction for 'selfish' reasons living a life only comprising of suffering, then why are you not running to hang yourself? like seriously, practice what you preach.

 

[Nikōn]

Because I plan to enjoy life to it’s fullest while I’m here.

So life isn't actually suffering now? or only when it is useful to your argument?

I think fundamentally you know that life is not actually dualistic like this and that it is rather a spectrum of experiences and conditions.

 

[Nikōn]

Sure it is a spectrum, taken naturally it’s acceptable, taken with the view of an omnipotent creator it is not.

Why does the existence of a creator change the values of these varying levels of experience? (I mean in the sense of why it necessitates the worst possible interpretation of that spectrum). Why can't human accountability (not just for the bad either but for the good) apply in both cases?

And again, this entire debate itself is predicated upon the notion that there is some underlying meaning to suffering in the first place. If there wasn't a meaning, then the judgement of suffering would be meaningless.

 

[Nikōn]

If someone set this up as a cosmic loyalty test it’s clearly wrong. Because it doesn’t have to happen. If we are created by a conscious being it’s because it’s either bored or lonely. Either way it’s a selfish desire.

Is there any circumstance that you can envision where divine law coincides with selflessness on part of 'the deity'?

 

[Teresa]

It is my observation that MGTOW is the only rational and safe response to the hyper hypergamy that has been trending in this country for quite some time. Women are hypergamous by nature and nowadays most marriages will end in divorce and it is women who initiate nearly most divorces and are generally able to take the kids and get child support and other fees from the man. I briefly delved into MGTOW after experiencing much of the same things it points out after the last two relationships I was in.

Women are no more hypergamous than men are.

 

[Teresa]

people should just do what makes them happy.

My only issue with the MGTOWs is the fact they act like being single and avoiding relationships is a new thing and somehow they are going to destroy society and scare women into obedience.
Many people prefer being single for a number of reasons, religion, preference, asexuals, career driven, prefer own company, mistrust, past abuse. monks, nuns and priests have made a career of it and i respect a persons choice to be single.

people should be left to do what they want as long as it does not harm others.

I have no problem with men being MGTOW's as long as they avoid women completely even for sex and don't go online going on about how they hate women and how inferior they see them as. They can either be celibate or enter into gay relationships. Go and live on island or in an isolated community where only men are allowed.

Being a celibate though is a different kettle of fish to being a MGTOW or separatist feminist. Celibate people still work alongside and do business with people of the opposite gender.

 

[Teresa]

I don't think you'll find Jesus doing any of that stuff..
Here he is in action again, rescuing a woman from a stone-throwing mob-

"On yer bikes, she's with me!..Hold your head up baby"
"Thanks JC , shall we go for a pizza?"

The problem is that most fundamentalist Christians don't bother with reading the gospels and instead prefer the letters, Acts, Revelation and the Old Testament depending on whether they are Calvinists or Pentecostals. They consider the gospels to be only for children and new converts from non Christian backgrounds.

 

[kerrichinchilla]

Lol.

Population control is such a Freudian boogeymam for you people you can't have any discussion without squeeling racism or something like that. This is the equivalent of Tumblr tweens finding microagressions arpund every corner.

I'll take it you have no actual substance.

But what do you mean then? there are over 7 billion people on the planet, many of them children born into poverty, without parents or starving to death, or all of the above so why not focus on them? instead of making more people?

 

[kerrichinchilla]

"But think of the children"...?

For fucks sake. Did anyone on this forum actually dissect what I wrote? This sounds like emotional semantics to avoid digging into the actual (*ahem* CIA/Wall Street) roots of 1960's progressivism and its various moveme

No its actual fakes not emotion. What is better quantity or quality? The stats below are only for the US. So why not focus on thise thousands opf children? this is a genuine question, why not them instead of making more?

 

[Lyfe]

Women are no more hypergamous than men are.

Thats acctually not true. Women mostly date up on the social and financial spectrum. Men do not as a womans financial and social status has almost no bearing on his choice for a partner. Women never really downgrade from their living conditions or trade what they have for lesser. Its just what the studies reveal.

Men and women consider different things when choosing a partner. Studies show that men mainly go off of physical features while women also look at and consider a mans potential as a father and provider.

 

[Teresa]

There's a difference between being assertive/empowered/liberated and being toxic and utter selfish. So many women are now behaving like the worst of men behaved a few decades ago and think that's being empowered. Cancelling arrangements to meet up at the last minute or simply not turning up just because they didn't feel like it at the time. Borrowing money and not returning it or asking somebody to go to the shops for them and not reimbursing them. Ringing people up and inviting them out with just a few minutes or at the most an hour's notice and demanding them turn up. You knew about that event at least a week ago so why didn't you invite me then? Making up stories about how a third party hates them when either nothing was said or the gossip was instigated by the person reporting it to you and persuaded the third party to agree to the negative comments about you. Seeing new friends as merely companions to go out searching for potential partners or one night stands with.