Evidence for God

DanRaleigh

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@Tidal ok. So then I should ask from @A Freeman , whether he believes that all the Christian sects were created by Satan and if not what sects he believes that was created by God/Allah. By the way, as of now, I didn't see Islamic religious leaders were having such a belief(that Christianity was created by Satan).
 
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Tidal

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@Tidal ok. So then I should ask from @A Freeman , whether he believes that all the Christian sects were created by Satan and if not what sects he believes that was created by God/Allah. By the way, as of now, I didn't see Islamic religious leaders were having such a belief(that Christianity was created by Satan).

Islam wants to kill adulteresses, but Jesus loves them (below).
Tell us which is satanic, Islam or Christianity?

 

DanRaleigh

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So my original question was that:

“ on the very first day when Gabriel speaks to prophet Muhammad tells him that Jesus is not the Son of God and on the other hand Gabriel states that Allah is the God. Since he has no clue who this intelligence is, he goes to so many Christian leaders and tries to clarify this point (God spoke to them first and they are the best people to know about their God than anyone else). So here what kind of response we can expect from the Christian leaders? Will they tell prophet Muhammad that the claim made by the intelligence is true?

Let me show you the issue here:

Based on recorded events we know that either Christian leaders would think that prophet Muhammad is crazy to think that Allah is the God or if not Christian leaders would think that an intelligence is deceiving prophet Muhammad. Cause, better than anyone else Christian leaders know who their God is (even before Prophet Muhammad was born to the world they know this. So prophet Muhammad should not say that Jesus is not the Son of God and tell that Allah is the God.). Because of this controversy, I like to know, based on what reasoning prophet Muhammad came to the conclusion that Allah is the God and Jesus is just a prophet? is it because of the claim made by the intelligence itself? If an intelligence told this to prophet Muhammad, does that mean that the intelligence lied to prophet Muhammad (by telling Jesus is a prophet and Allah is the God)?

(To make sense of this issue, you can also imagine the scenario where an intelligence speaking to you today and telling you that Ronaldo is the God and Jesus is a prophet sent by God(Ronaldo). And now you are conveying this message to Christian leaders. What will they think of you? Crazy? Or someone is deceiving you? On the other hand, someone can ask the question, “how did you come to the conclusion that Ronaldo is the true God; how do you know if an intelligence is not deceiving you?” In prophet Muhammad's case, how did prophet Muhammad come to the conclusion that Allah is the God and Jesus is not the Son of God? And how he came to know that the intelligence was lying or not?)

(Also, imagine the situation if I tell Muslim people and Christian people today that Ronaldo is the God. Further, that Allah is not the God and Jesus is not the Son of God either. What will they think of me?).

Because of this issue, either we have to say that someone deceived prophet Muhammad or if not we can say that someone has deceived Christian leaders(as you said Satan).

To fix this issue, let's say that someone says that the Christianity was created by Satan. However, the Quran clearly says the following:

i). “The Quran (Q21:91 and Q66:12) says that God blew through his angel into Mary and she, although being chaste bore Jesus without any father.”

ii). Further the Quran says:

Quran 3:42 '... O Mary! God has chosen you and purified you and again he has chosen you above all women of all nations of the worlds'
Quran 5:75 '... His (Jesus) mother (Mary) was a woman of truth.'
Quran 21:91 'And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of our spirit and we made her and her son a sign for all peoples.'
Quran 3:3 'She was assigned to the care of Zachariah.' (Guardian & Uncle)

Source: https://www.islamicity.org/5645/mary-and-jesus-in-islam/

Meaning, whatever Christian leaders believed, is because of Allah's actions (if we consider this line of thinking). Let's say after Allah spreading his word about the Quran by appointing Jesus as a prophet, Satan confused Christian leaders. However, then that means, Allah knew exactly that Christian leaders were deceived by Satan after he sending Jesus. But Allah did not say anything to Christian leaders(till the 7th century and even up to this day, he totally neglected the issue) and instead of fixing the issue, he used prophet Muhammad and worked with him for 24 years(had enough time to fix it) to spread the word about the Quran. By doing so, he made the situation worst. Cause because of the Quran, now Christians and Muslim people have a reason to argue and kill each other as well based on religious beliefs.

Therefore, if we take this hypothesis to fix the issue, this hypothesis tells us that Allah has no knowledge or an intelligence to resolve human issues, other than creating more and more conflicts or if not, this whole story implies that an intelligence was deceiving prophet Muhammad. How can we explain these controversies? If so, based on what reasoning?

(Failing to find proper reasoning behind these controversies raises questions about Christianity and Judaism as well.)
 
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