EUROPA: The Last Battle

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i watched it since you recommended it.

was that the only segment consolidated into one big episode, or are there parts 2-10? there werent any credits/sources at the end of the film.
 





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Let me guess. It’s all the Jews fault.
this first(?) segment discusses the origins of russian bolshevism and how the jews were the major force behind it. thats all factual and indisputable. however, there are parts that are not making sense. i wanted to see if there is a second segment to it before i commented.
for example... yegoda was jewish and head of the NKVD at the time. true. but then he was executed by stalin in 38. if it was a total jewish conspiracy which seems to be the theme of the video, why would stalin have him, a fellow jew, killed?

so far for me, its mixed facts.
 





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this first(?) segment discusses the origins of russian bolshevism and how the jews were the major force behind it. thats all factual and indisputable. .
Yeah actually it is disputable, a lot of Jews were part of the Party, Trotsky was, Lenin was on his mother’s side but it was unlikely he even knew about, and since when has Stalin been Jewish?

Regardless it is understandable while the majority of Russian Jews supported it. The Russian Empire was probably the most anti-Semitic place in Europe, as would be clearly demonstrated by The White Army.
 





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Yeah actually it is disputable, a lot of Jews were part of the Party, Trotsky was, Lenin was on his mother’s side but it was unlikely he even knew about, and since when has Stalin been Jewish?

Regardless it is understandable while the majority of Russian Jews supported it. The Russian Empire was probably the most anti-Semitic place in Europe, as would be clearly demonstrated by The White Army.
the video is claiming that stalin may very well have been jewish. i havent looked into it. again, this was why i was waiting for the credits and sources section of the video.

sure, the pogroms against the jews by the cossacks were a huge factor in the revolution. you have no argument from me. however, the video is also claiming that the bolshevist jews promulgated much of the bloodshed (and misery) during the revolution and after for the next several decades.
assuming that is true for the moment, do you justify this violence in retaliation?
 





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the video is claiming that stalin may very well have been jewish. i havent looked into it. again, this was why i was waiting for the credits and sources section of the video.

sure, the pogroms against the jews by the cossacks were a huge factor in the revolution. you have no argument from me. however, the video is also claiming that the bolshevist jews promulgated much of the bloodshed (and misery) during the revolution and after for the next several decades.
assuming that is true for the moment, do you justify this violence in retaliation?
Yeah well the video is likely lying in order to make an Anti-Jew propaganda piece.

Sure the Red Army/Terror was brutal, it’s war and I’m not going to sugarcoat it. It’s not easy to take control of a country and the Bolsheviks believed that the ends justified the means for sure.

Still an American commander at the end of WW1 said that he had never seen a force with such little regard for life as The White Army. They weaponized Anti-Semitism with the protocols ( actually White Army Propaganda influences a lot of ya’lls worldview, Etagloc literally posted some once ) and charming slogans such as : “Strike at the Jews and save Russia!” so it’s understandable while people might want retaliation. I’m not saying it’s justified but there are reasons for it.

I further want to clarify that Bolshevism was ultimately the worst thing to ever happen to the workers of the world ( especially because of Stalin later on ) because it soaked the worker movement in so much blood, but I shudder to think what the world would be like if Czarist Russia remained intact or if the Whites prevailed.
 





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i watched it since you recommended it.

was that the only segment consolidated into one big episode, or are there parts 2-10? there werent any credits/sources at the end of the film.
Yes, there are 9 other parts....I would enter in “Europa The Last Battle Part 2” in the search box and it would pull up the video. I did that for all 10 parts.

It’s extremely enlightening if you watch the entire series.
 





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Yeah well the video is likely lying in order to make an Anti-Jew propaganda piece.

Sure the Red Army/Terror was brutal, it’s war and I’m not going to sugarcoat it. It’s not easy to take control of a country and the Bolsheviks believed that the ends justified the means for sure.

Still an American commander at the end of WW1 said that he had never seen a force with such little regard for life as The White Army. They weaponized Anti-Semitism with the protocols ( actually White Army Propaganda influences a lot of ya’lls worldview, Etagloc literally posted some once ) and charming slogans such as : “Strike at the Jews and save Russia!” so it’s understandable while people might want retaliation. I’m not saying it’s justified but there are reasons for it.

I further want to clarify that Bolshevism was ultimately the worst thing to ever happen to the workers of the world ( especially becausegew of Stalin later on ) because it soaked the worker movement in so much blood, but I shudder to think what the world would be like if Czarist Russia remained intact or if the Whites prevailed.
I agree with most of your post, especially the part about Bolshevism.

But the part I disagree with is that it is about white supremacy. It is not.

There is NOTHING at all wrong with wanting to preserve your country’s culture, traditions, values, roots, and even race.

And.....GASP!....that includes white people. Yes, I said it.

It is not supremacy if you believe ALL races should feel that same sense of preservation for their race as well. It is supremacy when one race tries to squash that in another race, and that is currently being done with the white race.

People have marginalized white people & made them to feel as if they cannot be proud of or seek to preserve their culture & heritage.

What a shame, that white people have been brainwashed to feel guilt over something they cannot change; their race.
 





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ok, ive watched 1 thru 6 and 10. its pretty good, and i learned a few things i didnt know.
the second part was better than the first.

i think hes taken some info from the documentary, 'the greatest story never told" by dennis wise.
 





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There was a youtube video (that now got taken down, or I can't find it), of an older woman who watched the entire documentary. She was very profoundly moved by it, its clear in her video, and quite shaken up. She said she started a team to go through and fact check the entire documentary, with whoever wanted to join her, because of how the content affected her. She found 85% of information she researched was sourced and valid, and some of the last 15% she couldn't find sources for or against.
 





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Biased against the Jews...our troubles in this world are due to sin, and the fact that satan is the ruler of this world and is against the Jews and Christians.
 





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Biased against the Jews...our troubles in this world are due to sin, and the fact that satan is the ruler of this world and is against the Jews and Christians.
some bias, i agree-- some quotes were used, and while i dont contest their validity, i simply dont know if they were taken out of context. the music in particular is a bit cheesy. soft music to accompany hitler is a bit insulting. i know he was a vegetarian and an animal lover. thats enough for me.
by and large, though, it was accurate. i looked some of it up myself which i hadnt heard before. i also didnt see anything hateful-- just facts. that 100,000 german jews were nazis should make you stop and wonder.

what i am critical about (so far) is that one takes away the idea that all jews are in on it. i dont think thats the case, but weve discussed that before in other threads. only the top elites are/were doing this and the rest simply fell in line with the propaganda. and why wouldnt they, when they were fed false info from the american newspapers, political leaders, and their own jewish community leaders? jews already had a sensitive predisposition (built up over thousands of years) to religious persecution like blacks have a predisposition of trepidation over biased law enforcement.

i will keep watching.
 





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that 100,000 german jews were nazis should make you stop and wonder.
Some of the Jews in the concentration camps also helped the Germans at the camps to make life easier on themselves.

jews already had a sensitive predisposition (built up over thousands of years) to religious persecution
Who could blame the Jews, hated and persecuted everywhere they go and then to have people actually think they are the cause of all the suffering in the world..it’s just too much.
 





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Stalin wasn't Jewish, he was an (unconscious) architect by Nietzsche's classification. He was undoubtedly a self-made man who attained greatness.

some bias, i agree-- some quotes were used, and while i dont contest their validity, i simply dont know if they were taken out of context. the music in particular is a bit cheesy. soft music to accompany hitler is a bit insulting.
That's the problem with documentaries, they become rapidly outdated, too many generalizations and misrepresentations, and music is almost always exploited to secure people's sympathies.

i know he was a vegetarian and an animal lover. thats enough for me.
That's the kind of attitude which seems to grip most supporters or sympathizers these days. Scarcely anyone wants to explore beyond these tidbits. Why did he adopt a vegetarian diet? Was his affinity for animals independent from his study?

by and large, though, it was accurate. i looked some of it up myself which i hadnt heard before. i also didnt see anything hateful-- just facts.
Some of it is reinforced by preexisting nationalistic/revisionist narratives, which would give you the impression that they're facts.

that 100,000 german jews were nazis should make you stop and wonder.
Doesn't necessarily mean they wanted to be in that situation. The Jews who were employed were often forbidden from disclosing their Jewishness.

what i am critical about (so far) is that one takes away the idea that all jews are in on it. i dont think thats the case, but weve discussed that before in other threads. only the top elites are/were doing this and the rest simply fell in line with the propaganda. and why wouldnt they, when they were fed false info from the american newspapers, political leaders, and their own jewish community leaders? jews already had a sensitive predisposition (built up over thousands of years) to religious persecution like blacks have a predisposition of trepidation over biased law enforcement.
It's the case if one acknowledges the existence of racial instincts. However, most Jews are actually neutral, neither with a good nor bad disposition. But to be neutral is to side with the aggressors. There are probably many leading Jews in the know who don't want to take action due to fear of being ostracized.

Those are good points you've mentioned. Why was it necessary for the Jewish community, which formerly acknowledged other gods and frequently fell into idolatry/backsliding, to have only one god? Why send them prophets to hold them on their course? Why the threats of rejection, exclusion, and excommunication? Why is Judaism the only "religion" which is so lacking/vague in it's afterlife conception? Where did these notions of "chosen" people and "sin" really come from? What is the reason for their 2000 year old plight?

"Satan" does not employ criminals. He corrupts idealists and the most spiritual beings and deters them from their original roles. Turns them into moralists and beasts of prey.
 





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Stalin wasn't Jewish, he was an (unconscious) architect by Nietzsche's classification. He was undoubtedly a self-made man who attained greatness.
i thought he wasnt jewish as well-- the video states that he could very well be jewish.

That's the kind of attitude which seems to grip most supporters or sympathizers these days. Scarcely anyone wants to explore beyond these tidbits. Why did he adopt a vegetarian diet? Was his affinity for animals independent from his study?
when i said it "was good enough for me", i was referring to the fact that it was sufficient without the soft music. i havent looked into hitlers life-- i never found it important to do so. i am mainly focused on his deeds and actions rather than his psyche and motivations.

Some of it is reinforced by preexisting nationalistic/revisionist narratives, which would give you the impression that they're facts.
whether something is based on revisionist or mainstream history should not be cause for dismissing the claim. only the facts have any value. i, like any honest revisionist, is only interested in the facts. ill grant you that nationalistic narratives might distort the truth from time to time if youll agree that mainstream history is far from accurate.
i watch these documentaries because its the other side of the coin i have not been taught. somewhere in the middle is the truth.

Doesn't necessarily mean they wanted to be in that situation. The Jews who were employed were often forbidden from disclosing their Jewishness.
the 100.000 jewish nazis i was referring to were soldiers for nazi germany. the video (and other docs ive watched) have noted that the germans/hitler was quite aware of their jewishness and accepted them into the military. the employed jews were forced to wear the yellow "juden" star of david on their overcoat for easy identification, so they had to disclose their jewishness.
things get complex because while we have 100.000 jewish germans fighting for the reich at the same time weve got jews in the ghettos. the rest of the jews were given money by the government to leave peacefully and settle in palestine.

Those are good points you've mentioned. Why was it necessary for the Jewish community, which formerly acknowledged other gods and frequently fell into idolatry/backsliding, to have only one god? Why send them prophets to hold them on their course? Why the threats of rejection, exclusion, and excommunication? Why is Judaism the only "religion" which is so lacking/vague in it's afterlife conception? Where did these notions of "chosen" people and "sin" really come from? What is the reason for their 2000 year old plight?
you have a bunch of good questions here; i dont know. id refer you to a more qualified poster to answer... perhaps thundarian or red sky. i would be interested in the answers myself.

It's the case if one acknowledges the existence of racial instincts. However, most Jews are actually neutral, neither with a good nor bad disposition. But to be neutral is to side with the aggressors. There are probably many leading Jews in the know who don't want to take action due to fear of being ostracized.
why would there not be a proclivity for any ethnic group to be comfortable with the own? its natural and normal. i am not faulting them for it.
american jews of the `30s would undoubtedly side with their community and fellow jews especially considering the lack of facts about the situation trickling down to them. the elite jews/zionists disseminating the news and propaganda would steer them to fall in line. all things considered, i would expect any group to behave similarly.
michael tsarion has said that of all the people, the jews have had it the worst in terms of being fed false info, brainwashing, scapegoating, etc. i tend to agree.

by the, janus: you posed a question on the 'american presidents and why?' thread-- i did see that but have not replied yet because i have to review the history again. ive forgotten the key points and only recall the conclusion about FDRs socialism. i apologise for not responding, but i shall.