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First they attacked Christianity for 7 years the highlight being “on” where they mock Jesus and their promotion video where they “serve” Pieta on a table next to an empty glass of vine.
Now they go after the next religion.

If that’s what the 7 members of the band consider to be appropriate and respectful, then they should also be aware of the consequences.

They might have stupid crazy fans imitating everything they do, but when they’ll fall, or when the “perfect image”, that was only created to serve the minds of delusional teenage girls, is broken, their actions will come after them.
They’ve enslaved themselves to those lunatics, they’re at their mercy, by “their” I mean fans. Not BigHit, not Bang Si-Hyuk. They’re nothing without the craziness of their fans.

When TH was vaping non stop, not even being able to get out of a car without vaping, teenage girls went on and sold out all Juuls used by him; JK gets drunk on red vine on every live, fans go out and buy out the brand; yesterday JM posted about drinking a beer and watching the rain - I see comments of girls as young as 12 writing how they’re going to sneak into the kitchen and steal their daddy’s beer.

We see them promoting homosexuality and mocking religion, interacting with minors, fans go out doing the same and even parents, well, more desperate mothers, of young girls encourage and normalize p***philia. And I’ve seen a considerable amount Instagram accounts of mothers with girls as young as 3 or 5 obsessing about “taekook” or “vmin” or “jikook” as well as normalizing what it clearly is a behavior with pedophiliac vibes, in times where governments in UK, US and Germany are trying their best to push a legislation of ending the criminalization of p***philia. Because they’re run by mostly gay pedophiles. Especially Germany and UK.

A p***phile, or p***philia isn’t just the act of sexually abusing children. Is a inappropriate look, behavior, creepy vibe of older men towards children. And by older men I mean older than 14. Not just 20 or 24.

Bash religion, push homosexuality, p***philia, mock every single decent norm and there you have it.
Their fans and their fans’s children will grow up with the notion that this Sodomy and perversity is nothing but a normal behavior.

I don’t get it. You have young moms constantly posting gay content of the members mentioned, sexual content, all day long, teaching their little children about homosexuality, cheering it. You are a woman “raising” your child by spending your day in front of a computer getting hyped by seeing gay interactions?? How disturbed are you?!?

The fact that those “honorable” members are mocking religion is not a problem for anyone, apparently it’s the ultimate sign of respect. You’re mocking religion, you’re doing a good thing.

Hoseok is a creep either way. Like the rest. A silent creep, the dirty perverted kind.

I wish Dispatch would just release what they have on them.
Vee is clinically depressed and/or has some other serious mental health issue going on. It won’t surprise me if he joins club 27.... I guess side effect of his lifestyle and whatever happened to him during his childhood. It is really bad, to a point where it can’t be hidden anymore.
Ji min is an alcoholic... already established.
J-poop, still haven’t figured out if this one is also a h**o se**al? Have you??
 






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Just as previously discussed, none of their self-produced/self written singles are written by them. Now the actual song writers and producers want cred and the fans are raging :rolleyes:



Of course the poor korean ghost lyricists can’t say a word. Only the bigger western producers are speaking up. Notice how bitter he is when saying they wrote every single word, so exactly what did Teacup do?
I was just about to post the exact same thing. :)
So I am just gonna upload the screenshot to make sure it stays here.


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I am though skeptical about it - usually those contracts prohibit the ghost writers to lash out and expose the fake-writer.

I said it when he released the song - he can't even say thank you in english, let alone write a song.
Shocking how their fans react, but the worse part is, same as with Charlie Pooth, the fact that they don't intervene when their fans attack not just for no reason, but for something where THEY, BTS, did wrong, people who have worked with them. If it wouldn't be for the thousands of writers for one BTS song, they wouldn't be able to do playback on shitty songs and have fans writing about how "talented" they are and how they write all songs.

He wrote and produced the song?? Same as Jungkook his?

Production is a profession, it takes years to become a good producer. No way have those guys written even ONE single song on their own. And produce it. None of them. I find it hard to believe now that Suga wrote and produced his first album.

Either way, TH and BTS should apologize to anyone Army attacked and they should calm those pre-menstrual bitches down.

J-poop, still haven’t figured out if this one is also a h**o se**al? Have you??
hahahahahaha, this is too funny. J-poop.
Fake unnatural personality, drama queen, the one who talks trash behind people's back and homo times 7. That's my feeling about J-POOP.
Also - he says he would rather hang around with the younger ones. and sleeps with Jimin.
 






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Guys I posted on the other thread but I’ve been researching to write a theory on the mv on and I literally got chills with what I found. Hopefully I’ll post the theory here too tomorrow because I don’t think it can wait but I’m really scared for jungkook I feel like he is in danger
 






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This is stupid and so out of control.
So it turns out that they really wrote the song/s and BTS’s army can’t deal with their fantasies being crushed. So they go after other people.

If they react this way over a damn song where they imagined and praised TH’s “skills”, along with any other members claiming writing credits, imagine their shock and reaction if he gets married.
 






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This is stupid and so out of control.
So it turns out that they really wrote the song/s and BTS’s army can’t deal with their fantasies being crushed. So they go after other people.

If they react this way over a damn song where they imagined and praised TH’s “skills”, along with any other members claiming writing credits, imagine their shock and reaction if he gets married.
This is worse than I imagined. They basically compose and write the entire song in english and someone just translates the lyrics to Korean:oops:. I guarantee the translator is not any of the self writing members. This is when the ghost writers come in and one-eyed gets all the credit. Big$hit producers only edit the finished product. It still sounds bad though. Geez all of them are so shady, taking so much credit for something they did not do. No wonder they got so far. I don’t think any of them are honest and trustworthy people in real life and are used to lying through their teeth. Reminds me about how Bey once gets writing cred when she does in fact not write a single word herself.
 






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This is worse than I imagined. They basically compose and write the entire song in english and someone just translates the lyrics to Korean:oops:. I guarantee the translator is not any of the self writing members. This is when the ghost writers come in and one-eyed gets all the credit. Big$hit producers only edit the finished product. It still sounds bad though. Geez all of them are so shady, taking so much credit for something they did not do. No wonder they got so far. I don’t think any of them are honest and trustworthy people in real life and are used to lying through their teeth. Reminds me about how Bey once gets writing cred when she does in fact not write a single word herself.
Exactly.
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Purple Hearts should be banned from keyboards of people who don’t value them??


The same user getting “mad” and “screaming” because another BTS writer has come to defend Melanie saying what every musician and professional knows - if you are not in the music business, you can’t speak on songwriting.


The most imbecile groups of people are BTS’s army and Beyoncé’s BeyHive.

Both BTS and Beyoncé are pathetic by wanting to achieve some stardom status by creating a fake image of someone involved in whatever it is that they are doing, when instead they have 100+ People involved that never get a credit.

Oh. And by the way - it’s not even BTS who translated the lyrics. It’s their TRANSLATOR. They even take that credit away. :D
 






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BTS “ON” MV ANALYSIS
PART 1

Disclaimer:
Everything discussed
In this analysis is speculation done by research and I do not claim anything to be 100% facts

1) Symbolism of the dove

At the start of the mv, Jin is holding onto a dove white dove with an arrow through it. The arrow symbolises power in freemasonry Aswell as a sense of direction and penetration whilst whiteness symbolises purity and innocence. In the illuminati despite having connotations to purity a dove is actually a symbol of sacrifice and so the arrow could be the handler or the one in power whilst the dove the victim of a circumstance.

@OvercomeItAll stated in her post there seems to be a correlation between Kookie and the dove. In the mv jk wears shackles with thorns as if he’s trapped and is running from danger. He seems to be running through a desert symbolising lack of nutrition and lack of life. At the same time Jin is in a room filled with cages Symbolising being trapped too. The dove is trapped just like jk.
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2) Symbolism of nature (Woods, dessert branches)
In occultism nature is a huge part of “searching for the truth” and when this is introduced a new degree of freemasonry occurs. Climbing the mountain can be a symbolism of BTS reaching the 23rd degree or reaching a new degree after this comeback
The desert area where J-Hope seems to be in actually reminds me of the Acacia tree in Thailand and it loooks quit
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In masonry this tree is symbolising a grave (ironic as Jungkook is laying in this desert with the black crow eating him... symbolising death and the decomposition of body...spiritually symbolising the consumption of energy and demonic power being inserted into his body) This also links to him being a possible sacrifice.
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The acacia tree to occultists also symbolises immortality and if you look at the lyrics of the song “bring the pain” “blood and flesh” etc they are all talking about how they are immortal to fear and pain. They are acting like they are immortal in those lines.
3) Religious reference Noah’s ark

we see a scene With RM which had an uncanny resemblance to Noah’s ark. In occultism ark symbolises secrets and hidden truths. The story of Noah has a moral of being chosen and for the good to be saved. Since the occult like to use inverse messages BTS use of this scene could be that they are chosen for evil and contradict the story from good to evil similar black and white birds symbolising a juxtaposition of Jungkook.
There are a lot of biblical references in this mv which seem to draw one to believe that BTS is acting against religion

4) The scene With Yoongi, looks like an initiation ritual when a new member is introduced to the occult. Later in the mv we see all the members wearing red cloaks which is common uniform in these ceremonies. The light is the summoning of Lucifer. I don’t know why Sug@ would be in this scene but I feel like this scene represents jk joining the cult. Later when they they wear the red cloaks it is jk who arrives in the middle symbolising he is now joining them This mv seems to be centred around him
Look at the similarities between occult practice and the mv
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BTS “ON” MV ANALYSIS
PART 1

Disclaimer:
Everything discussed
In this analysis is speculation done by research and I do not claim anything to be 100% facts

1) Symbolism of the dove

At the start of the mv, Jin is holding onto a dove white dove with an arrow through it. The arrow symbolises power in freemasonry Aswell as a sense of direction and penetration whilst whiteness symbolises purity and innocence. In the illuminati despite having connotations to purity a dove is actually a symbol of sacrifice and so the arrow could be the handler or the one in power whilst the dove the victim of a circumstance.

@OvercomeItAll stated in her post there seems to be a correlation between Kookie and the dove. In the mv jk wears shackles with thorns as if he’s trapped and is running from danger. He seems to be running through a desert symbolising lack of nutrition and lack of life. At the same time Jin is in a room filled with cages Symbolising being trapped too. The dove is trapped just like jk.
View attachment 39341

2) Symbolism of nature (Woods, dessert branches)
In occultism nature is a huge part of “searching for the truth” and when this is introduced a new degree of freemasonry occurs. Climbing the mountain can be a symbolism of BTS reaching the 23rd degree or reaching a new degree after this comeback
The desert area where J-Hope seems to be in actually reminds me of the Acacia tree in Thailand and it loooks quit
View attachment 39339
In masonry this tree is symbolising a grave (ironic as Jungkook is laying in this desert with the black crow eating him... symbolising death and the decomposition of body...spiritually symbolising the consumption of energy and demonic power being inserted into his body) This also links to him being a possible sacrifice.
View attachment 39340
The acacia tree to occultists also symbolises immortality and if you look at the lyrics of the song “bring the pain” “blood and flesh” etc they are all talking about how they are immortal to fear and pain. They are acting like they are immortal in those lines.
3) Religious reference Noah’s ark

we see a scene With RM which had an uncanny resemblance to Noah’s ark. In occultism ark symbolises secrets and hidden truths. The story of Noah has a moral of being chosen and for the good to be saved. Since the occult like to use inverse messages BTS use of this scene could be that they are chosen for evil and contradict the story from good to evil similar black and white birds symbolising a juxtaposition of Jungkook.
There are a lot of biblical references in this mv which seem to draw one to believe that BTS is acting against religion

4) The scene With Yoongi, looks like an initiation ritual when a new member is introduced to the occult. Later in the mv we see all the members wearing red cloaks which is common uniform in these ceremonies. The light is the summoning of Lucifer. I don’t know why Sug@ would be in this scene but I feel like this scene represents jk joining the cult. Later when they they wear the red cloaks it is jk who arrives in the middle symbolising he is now joining them This mv seems to be centred around him
Look at the similarities between occult practice and the mv
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the same red cloak was worn by the membersView attachment 39344

Look at this animation



Not sure but is this animation Kookie?

He's gonna be the ultimate sacrifice?
 






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Chrissy Teigen saying she’d be ok with eating human flesh (at a “fancy” restaurant)
She also deleted over 60.000 tweets connecting her amongst others to p***philia and Jeffrey Epstein.


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hey guys would you believe that I had the first comment to chrissy's second to last tweet before she went private! i like to think i played a part in it :) check it out:

wish i had screen shot does anyone know how to find archive of that?
anyhow i will make a thread titled her name now i have more tweets
 






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hey guys would you believe that I had the first comment to chrissy's second to last tweet before she went private! i like to think i played a part in it :) check it out:

wish i had screen shot does anyone know how to find archive of that?
anyhow i will make a thread titled her name now i have more tweets
Whatever got crawled, it’s in here

DESKTOP LINK VERSION

I also did a mobile version, it has different tweets stored

MOBILE LINK VERSION


Mobile goes back to 2003. Desktop to 2009 but has more data crawled.
Tweets saved on the same day differ. If you go through one version’s data from a date, you will find additional ones on the other version as well.
The difference is created by the fact that the site was crawled either from the computer in that moment (which is why I wrote desktop version) and other times from mobile (mobile version).
 






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I hope he’s lying and it’s not his mother who took the pictures, otherwise it’s creepy as fuck to have your mother taking pictures of you as a man, while you’re lying in bed wearing shorts.
But that’s the same mother who sold him and lives in a 7figure mansion so I guess it makes sense from that perspective.
 






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I hope he’s lying and it’s not his mother who took the pictures, otherwise it’s creepy as fuck to have your mother taking pictures of you as a man, while you’re lying in bed wearing shorts.
But that’s the same mother who sold him and lives in a 7figure mansion so I guess it makes sense from that perspective.
Wait....T@3 parents are rich I thought they were farmers but then people have been saying he was born into the occult so they must have been
 






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Wait....T@3 parents are rich I thought they were farmers but then people have been saying he was born into the occult so they must have been
I personally don’t agree, nor support any of the theories “sacrifice “, “cult “, “mind control” etc in relation to BTS. I have explained why in the other forum a while ago.

I know a lot of people who are in the freemasonry and most of the time it’s just basic stuff and connections. In America they do engage in creepy stuff, with or without Freemasonry and it always involves high ranking people and people from the entertainment industry.

That been said - since everything about BTS is made up to appeal to a certain “victim ideology”, One cannot know what’s true or false, but since TH has genuinely showed that he has/had a close to his grandparents, one can assume that it’s true and he did lived mostly with his grandparents while his parents were working as farmers.

From the pictures, it doesn’t seem to me that his family was so incredible poor, they (grandparents) had a normal household, he had toys and costumes, things that a very poor person cannot afford.

In this scenario I personally can only conclude that his parents couldn’t care less about him and sent TH to live more with the grandparents while they took care of the other two children, which makes little sense, because usually one sends the younger ones to live with the grandparents as they’re more difficult to be taken care of.

This has been my personal experience in my own family.

TH has huge daddy issues that are growing unnoticeable because of his own personality which developed into something more and more shallow.

He is obsessed with his father - typical for anyone with this complex, who has suffered psychologically damage, more prominent the older one becomes.

His constant need for attention is born from the lack of a father figure which was replaced by a very disturbed man, Bang Si-Hyuk and his activity as a puppet in a band, whose success is based on the ultimate stupidity and superficiality of a surreal “importance” that exists only due to the obsessiveness of young/middle age vulnerable girls/women. He and the rest are enjoying enormous attention and surrounded by fake people profiting from their constant need for attention with absolutely no merit.

Professionally speaking what they’re doing it’s a disgrace.

He’s constantly talking about his father which is the first sign of a psychological problematic and someone with “daddy issues”, constantly purchasing something for him or talking about “I’m going to buy this for my dad”.
Trying to buy his father’s attention which he’ll never receive because his parents sold him in a figuratively way of speaking and in a literally way - rather than worrying about their underage son being hit by strangers, forced to diet, extensive damaging dying of the hair, wearing dresses and girls make-up, traveling abroad surrounded by strangers, etc..., they are fine with everything he does, because he buys them expensive houses and offers them a lavish lifestyle (hence the luxurious house, furniture, etc).
He brags about “drinking with his father” , I bet they tell him no words of critique, but praise everything he’s doing because TH is very easy to read, even without knowing him. He’s constantly begging for attention, often annoying within the group. So all you need to do is praising him and acting as if everything he’s doing is great and he’ll eat you from the palm.
I’ve noticed that in the past year more and more often until it became constant, he says something and then looks at a person behind the camera to wait for “approval” and fake laughs. I’ve seen compilation with him saying something and then girl laughters from the staffers, even though he wasn’t saying anything remotely funny.

It happens with Jimin and Jungkook as well.

TH isn’t the only one here. The other two are also very insecure and looking for approval.
But TH is the one where this issue is very visible and wether it was a fake info or not, I can imagine it to carry some truth - staffers leaking information about TH being annoying and difficult because he constantly needs attention and will become irritable if there’s someone who doesn’t give him full attention.
If this was very noticeable on stage, I can imagine how annoying he can be behind the stage which is why, because it’s obvious that some of the members can’t stand him, I can understand how the others can be annoyed by him but have to keep it up because he sells the most and it’s the most attractive one, from a bankable point of view.
When they have a group foto, he’ll always do something to attract attention. Either sitting on someone’s lap, fooling around rather than staying in the group or like the last photo-shooting where he grabs Jin

http://instagr.am/p/CCtbDnvp8dI/
All of that it’s not an excuse though because if you’re too dumb to notice that your parents sold you and ignore the signals such as never wonder why your parents agreed with everything, once you started paying for their life, if you’re not smart enough to realize that the people around you are using you, then the parents cannot totally be blamed.

Suga turned out fine, despite his parents not agreeing (for good reason) with him being part of a gay band and not having a real profession. You don’t see Suga having daddy issues. You don’t see him constantly asking for attention. He’s smart enough to at least not engage in this kind of a pathological behavior. One could say that Suga was even more a victim of childhood abandonment.
I used to admire and respect Suga fighting despite the family being against it and managing his way though. He indeed couldn’t care less about what people are thinking and that’s the only way you get to do things in life.


The difference between the two? TH was/is handsome but at best a person with no ambition or morals who destroyed every single quality he was given because he enjoys the superficial attention that his looks are receiving and Suga had to fight for every ounce of attention and admiration. Same as Namjoon.

TH had more native qualities than everyone else but one deficit - his face. A bit like the story of The Picture of Dorian Gray.

I am going to quote Wikipedia’s summary because it’s short and can be use as a reference to the situation:

“Dorian Gray is the subject of a full-length portrait in oil by Basil Hallward, an artist impressed and infatuated by Dorian's beauty; he believes that Dorian's beauty is responsible for the new mood in his art as a painter. Through Basil, Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, and he soon is enthralled by the aristocrat's hedonistic world view: that beauty and sensual fulfilment are the only things worth pursuing in life.

Newly understanding that his beauty will fade, Dorian expresses the desire to sell his soul, to ensure that the picture, rather than he, will age and fade. The wish is granted, and Dorian pursues a libertine life of varied amoral experiences while staying young and beautiful; all the while, his portrait ages and records every sin.[6]”



I read the book, it’s a warning for everyone who’s handsome but lacks intelligence, ambition and is surrounded by the wrong kind of people. The ugliness and flaws of Dorian are becoming grotesque in that painting.

I have long pointed out to some weird shit TH has started doing. The principle behind it it’s no different than the story of the book.
Back to his parents - mean cold hearted bastards who have noticed that they can manipulate their own son into giving them money, by using a huge problematic character flow which will cause him a lot of trouble and (already visible) damages, for money.
You realize that they’re sitting there at the table that TH bought them, in the house that TH purchased, praising everything, fake smiling at their son, in exchange for a luxurious life style. Their own son. That they gave up long before this started.
His father, first worried that he would have to pay for his son if he doesn’t get a job, said that he will only allow him to join kpop, if he learns an instrument - so the man was well aware that kpop is a shitty thing and not a real profession from which you can learn or do something in your later life. It’s not like he was totally blinded by the “magic of kpop”...

Yet, once TH started to earn money, he wasn’t worried about TH not having a real job. Not learning for school, not educating himself.
If one approaches it strictly professional: Namjoon, Suga, Hoseok can earn money on their own. Either through songwriting/producing or Hoseok through dancing/dance courses/judge.

Jin is already long settled.

Jimin could equally do dancing classes. He is good. He’s not the best but I am sure he can give good advice.

Jungkook is capable of doing whatever one puts him on the table. He is extremely limited intellectually, but his perseverance, ambition and concentration skills are always up there visible.

TH who had everything from dancing, rapping, singing skills to a natural attractive personality on stage, has lost all of that due to his personality.

People will use his weakness and attention-seeking-pathology, will suck put him as much as possible, same as his parents and unless he puts a stop to it, I don’t see him ending anywhere good.

His character and lifestyle, attraction to meaningless immoral aspects of life and refusal of acknowledging his visible damages, are very similar to the character in the book. Dorian was aware over the fact that what he’s doing is wrong. He still did it. Because people were praying his face and he didn’t had to do anything for it.
 






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I personally don’t agree, nor support any of the theories “sacrifice “, “cult “, “mind control” etc in relation to BTS. I have explained why in the other forum a while ago.

I know a lot of people who are in the freemasonry and most of the time it’s just basic stuff and connections. In America they do engage in creepy stuff, with or without Freemasonry and it always involves high ranking people and people from the entertainment industry.

That been said - since everything about BTS is made up to appeal to a certain “victim ideology”, One cannot know what’s true or false, but since TH has genuinely showed that he has/had a close to his grandparents, one can assume that it’s true and he did lived mostly with his grandparents while his parents were working as farmers.

From the pictures, it doesn’t seem to me that his family was so incredible poor, they (grandparents) had a normal household, he had toys and costumes, things that a very poor person cannot afford.

In this scenario I personally can only conclude that his parents couldn’t care less about him and sent TH to live more with the grandparents while they took care of the other two children, which makes little sense, because usually one sends the younger ones to live with the grandparents as they’re more difficult to be taken care of.

This has been my personal experience in my own family.

TH has huge daddy issues that are growing unnoticeable because of his own personality which developed into something more and more shallow.

He is obsessed with his father - typical for anyone with this complex, who has suffered psychologically damage, more prominent the older one becomes.

His constant need for attention is born from the lack of a father figure which was replaced by a very disturbed man, Bang Si-Hyuk and his activity as a puppet in a band, whose success is based on the ultimate stupidity and superficiality of a surreal “importance” that exists only due to the obsessiveness of young/middle age vulnerable girls/women. He and the rest are enjoying enormous attention and surrounded by fake people profiting from their constant need for attention with absolutely no merit.

Professionally speaking what they’re doing it’s a disgrace.

He’s constantly talking about his father which is the first sign of a psychological problematic and someone with “daddy issues”, constantly purchasing something for him or talking about “I’m going to buy this for my dad”.
Trying to buy his father’s attention which he’ll never receive because his parents sold him in a figuratively way of speaking and in a literally way - rather than worrying about their underage son being hit by strangers, forced to diet, extensive damaging dying of the hair, wearing dresses and girls make-up, traveling abroad surrounded by strangers, etc..., they are fine with everything he does, because he buys them expensive houses and offers them a lavish lifestyle (hence the luxurious house, furniture, etc).
He brags about “drinking with his father” , I bet they tell him no words of critique, but praise everything he’s doing because TH is very easy to read, even without knowing him. He’s constantly begging for attention, often annoying within the group. So all you need to do is praising him and acting as if everything he’s doing is great and he’ll eat you from the palm.
I’ve noticed that in the past year more and more often until it became constant, he says something and then looks at a person behind the camera to wait for “approval” and fake laughs. I’ve seen compilation with him saying something and then girl laughters from the staffers, even though he wasn’t saying anything remotely funny.

It happens with Jimin and Jungkook as well.

TH isn’t the only one here. The other two are also very insecure and looking for approval.
But TH is the one where this issue is very visible and wether it was a fake info or not, I can imagine it to carry some truth - staffers leaking information about TH being annoying and difficult because he constantly needs attention and will become irritable if there’s someone who doesn’t give him full attention.
If this was very noticeable on stage, I can imagine how annoying he can be behind the stage which is why, because it’s obvious that some of the members can’t stand him, I can understand how the others can be annoyed by him but have to keep it up because he sells the most and it’s the most attractive one, from a bankable point of view.
When they have a group foto, he’ll always do something to attract attention. Either sitting on someone’s lap, fooling around rather than staying in the group or like the last photo-shooting where he grabs Jin

http://instagr.am/p/CCtbDnvp8dI/
All of that it’s not an excuse though because if you’re too dumb to notice that your parents sold you and ignore the signals such as never wonder why your parents agreed with everything, once you started paying for their life, if you’re not smart enough to realize that the people around you are using you, then the parents cannot totally be blamed.

Suga turned out fine, despite his parents not agreeing (for good reason) with him being part of a gay band and not having a real profession. You don’t see Suga having daddy issues. You don’t see him constantly asking for attention. He’s smart enough to at least not engage in this kind of a pathological behavior. One could say that Suga was even more a victim of childhood abandonment.
I used to admire and respect Suga fighting despite the family being against it and managing his way though. He indeed couldn’t care less about what people are thinking and that’s the only way you get to do things in life.


The difference between the two? TH was/is handsome but at best a person with no ambition or morals who destroyed every single quality he was given because he enjoys the superficial attention that his looks are receiving and Suga had to fight for every ounce of attention and admiration. Same as Namjoon.

TH had more native qualities than everyone else but one deficit - his face. A bit like the story of The Picture of Dorian Gray.

I am going to quote Wikipedia’s summary because it’s short and can be use as a reference to the situation:

“Dorian Gray is the subject of a full-length portrait in oil by Basil Hallward, an artist impressed and infatuated by Dorian's beauty; he believes that Dorian's beauty is responsible for the new mood in his art as a painter. Through Basil, Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, and he soon is enthralled by the aristocrat's hedonistic world view: that beauty and sensual fulfilment are the only things worth pursuing in life.

Newly understanding that his beauty will fade, Dorian expresses the desire to sell his soul, to ensure that the picture, rather than he, will age and fade. The wish is granted, and Dorian pursues a libertine life of varied amoral experiences while staying young and beautiful; all the while, his portrait ages and records every sin.[6]”



I read the book, it’s a warning for everyone who’s handsome but lacks intelligence, ambition and is surrounded by the wrong kind of people. The ugliness and flaws of Dorian are becoming grotesque in that painting.

I have long pointed out to some weird shit TH has started doing. The principle behind it it’s no different than the story of the book.
Back to his parents - mean cold hearted bastards who have noticed that they can manipulate their own son into giving them money, by using a huge problematic character flow which will cause him a lot of trouble and (already visible) damages, for money.
You realize that they’re sitting there at the table that TH bought them, in the house that TH purchased, praising everything, fake smiling at their son, in exchange for a luxurious life style. Their own son. That they gave up long before this started.
His father, first worried that he would have to pay for his son if he doesn’t get a job, said that he will only allow him to join kpop, if he learns an instrument - so the man was well aware that kpop is a shitty thing and not a real profession from which you can learn or do something in your later life. It’s not like he was totally blinded by the “magic of kpop”...

Yet, once TH started to earn money, he wasn’t worried about TH not having a real job. Not learning for school, not educating himself.
If one approaches it strictly professional: Namjoon, Suga, Hoseok can earn money on their own. Either through songwriting/producing or Hoseok through dancing/dance courses/judge.

Jin is already long settled.

Jimin could equally do dancing classes. He is good. He’s not the best but I am sure he can give good advice.

Jungkook is capable of doing whatever one puts him on the table. He is extremely limited intellectually, but his perseverance, ambition and concentration skills are always up there visible.

TH who had everything from dancing, rapping, singing skills to a natural attractive personality on stage, has lost all of that due to his personality.

People will use his weakness and attention-seeking-pathology, will suck put him as much as possible, same as his parents and unless he puts a stop to it, I don’t see him ending anywhere good.

His character and lifestyle, attraction to meaningless immoral aspects of life and refusal of acknowledging his visible damages, are very similar to the character in the book. Dorian was aware over the fact that what he’s doing is wrong. He still did it. Because people were praying his face and he didn’t had to do anything for it.
Regarding TH. I found him very interesting. Yes he is handsome something about his face you cannot keep your eyes out.

I don't religiously watch all BTeEs videos but when I do, I will observe TH. I think the last Run BTS when all the members creating literal clothes to wear, he made up something interesting. A bag or something, Jimin wears.

Not sure if it was scripted. But TH photo of Jimen wearing his clothes scored one of the lowest just because the "AMRY" won't be happy because they cannot see Jemin face.

For me, that photo does retain the theme of loneliness. And that weird piece of clothes TH made oddly fitting.

There are couple moments I watched, you can simple search about how Genius TH is

If he's not genius, he's kind who thinks outside of the box. Even his Tata (again, not sure if it's scripted) but Tata's concept rather eccentric. And he was right when he said that AMRY do not only want cute emoji but they want unique ones.

Yes. I do agree someone mentioned that TH might clinically depressed or undergoing some sort of mental illness. It would be amazing if they don't.

When I watched that Spring Day, graduation class. You can see clearly TH's body language, he turns away from all the members.

He kept repeatedly saying "I am a good boy." Means maybe somehow along the way he decided to rebel. That's why he was excluded from that group signature from the T-shirt.

Maybe some sort of warning. It is easy to take everything he has for whatever they built is house of cards anyway.
 






Kittyn

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I personally don’t agree, nor support any of the theories “sacrifice “, “cult “, “mind control” etc in relation to BTS. I have explained why in the other forum a while ago.

I know a lot of people who are in the freemasonry and most of the time it’s just basic stuff and connections. In America they do engage in creepy stuff, with or without Freemasonry and it always involves high ranking people and people from the entertainment industry.

That been said - since everything about BTS is made up to appeal to a certain “victim ideology”, One cannot know what’s true or false, but since TH has genuinely showed that he has/had a close to his grandparents, one can assume that it’s true and he did lived mostly with his grandparents while his parents were working as farmers.

From the pictures, it doesn’t seem to me that his family was so incredible poor, they (grandparents) had a normal household, he had toys and costumes, things that a very poor person cannot afford.

In this scenario I personally can only conclude that his parents couldn’t care less about him and sent TH to live more with the grandparents while they took care of the other two children, which makes little sense, because usually one sends the younger ones to live with the grandparents as they’re more difficult to be taken care of.

This has been my personal experience in my own family.

TH has huge daddy issues that are growing unnoticeable because of his own personality which developed into something more and more shallow.

He is obsessed with his father - typical for anyone with this complex, who has suffered psychologically damage, more prominent the older one becomes.

His constant need for attention is born from the lack of a father figure which was replaced by a very disturbed man, Bang Si-Hyuk and his activity as a puppet in a band, whose success is based on the ultimate stupidity and superficiality of a surreal “importance” that exists only due to the obsessiveness of young/middle age vulnerable girls/women. He and the rest are enjoying enormous attention and surrounded by fake people profiting from their constant need for attention with absolutely no merit.

Professionally speaking what they’re doing it’s a disgrace.

He’s constantly talking about his father which is the first sign of a psychological problematic and someone with “daddy issues”, constantly purchasing something for him or talking about “I’m going to buy this for my dad”.
Trying to buy his father’s attention which he’ll never receive because his parents sold him in a figuratively way of speaking and in a literally way - rather than worrying about their underage son being hit by strangers, forced to diet, extensive damaging dying of the hair, wearing dresses and girls make-up, traveling abroad surrounded by strangers, etc..., they are fine with everything he does, because he buys them expensive houses and offers them a lavish lifestyle (hence the luxurious house, furniture, etc).
He brags about “drinking with his father” , I bet they tell him no words of critique, but praise everything he’s doing because TH is very easy to read, even without knowing him. He’s constantly begging for attention, often annoying within the group. So all you need to do is praising him and acting as if everything he’s doing is great and he’ll eat you from the palm.
I’ve noticed that in the past year more and more often until it became constant, he says something and then looks at a person behind the camera to wait for “approval” and fake laughs. I’ve seen compilation with him saying something and then girl laughters from the staffers, even though he wasn’t saying anything remotely funny.

It happens with Jimin and Jungkook as well.

TH isn’t the only one here. The other two are also very insecure and looking for approval.
But TH is the one where this issue is very visible and wether it was a fake info or not, I can imagine it to carry some truth - staffers leaking information about TH being annoying and difficult because he constantly needs attention and will become irritable if there’s someone who doesn’t give him full attention.
If this was very noticeable on stage, I can imagine how annoying he can be behind the stage which is why, because it’s obvious that some of the members can’t stand him, I can understand how the others can be annoyed by him but have to keep it up because he sells the most and it’s the most attractive one, from a bankable point of view.
When they have a group foto, he’ll always do something to attract attention. Either sitting on someone’s lap, fooling around rather than staying in the group or like the last photo-shooting where he grabs Jin

http://instagr.am/p/CCtbDnvp8dI/
All of that it’s not an excuse though because if you’re too dumb to notice that your parents sold you and ignore the signals such as never wonder why your parents agreed with everything, once you started paying for their life, if you’re not smart enough to realize that the people around you are using you, then the parents cannot totally be blamed.

Suga turned out fine, despite his parents not agreeing (for good reason) with him being part of a gay band and not having a real profession. You don’t see Suga having daddy issues. You don’t see him constantly asking for attention. He’s smart enough to at least not engage in this kind of a pathological behavior. One could say that Suga was even more a victim of childhood abandonment.
I used to admire and respect Suga fighting despite the family being against it and managing his way though. He indeed couldn’t care less about what people are thinking and that’s the only way you get to do things in life.


The difference between the two? TH was/is handsome but at best a person with no ambition or morals who destroyed every single quality he was given because he enjoys the superficial attention that his looks are receiving and Suga had to fight for every ounce of attention and admiration. Same as Namjoon.

TH had more native qualities than everyone else but one deficit - his face. A bit like the story of The Picture of Dorian Gray.

I am going to quote Wikipedia’s summary because it’s short and can be use as a reference to the situation:

“Dorian Gray is the subject of a full-length portrait in oil by Basil Hallward, an artist impressed and infatuated by Dorian's beauty; he believes that Dorian's beauty is responsible for the new mood in his art as a painter. Through Basil, Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, and he soon is enthralled by the aristocrat's hedonistic world view: that beauty and sensual fulfilment are the only things worth pursuing in life.

Newly understanding that his beauty will fade, Dorian expresses the desire to sell his soul, to ensure that the picture, rather than he, will age and fade. The wish is granted, and Dorian pursues a libertine life of varied amoral experiences while staying young and beautiful; all the while, his portrait ages and records every sin.[6]”



I read the book, it’s a warning for everyone who’s handsome but lacks intelligence, ambition and is surrounded by the wrong kind of people. The ugliness and flaws of Dorian are becoming grotesque in that painting.

I have long pointed out to some weird shit TH has started doing. The principle behind it it’s no different than the story of the book.
Back to his parents - mean cold hearted bastards who have noticed that they can manipulate their own son into giving them money, by using a huge problematic character flow which will cause him a lot of trouble and (already visible) damages, for money.
You realize that they’re sitting there at the table that TH bought them, in the house that TH purchased, praising everything, fake smiling at their son, in exchange for a luxurious life style. Their own son. That they gave up long before this started.
His father, first worried that he would have to pay for his son if he doesn’t get a job, said that he will only allow him to join kpop, if he learns an instrument - so the man was well aware that kpop is a shitty thing and not a real profession from which you can learn or do something in your later life. It’s not like he was totally blinded by the “magic of kpop”...

Yet, once TH started to earn money, he wasn’t worried about TH not having a real job. Not learning for school, not educating himself.
If one approaches it strictly professional: Namjoon, Suga, Hoseok can earn money on their own. Either through songwriting/producing or Hoseok through dancing/dance courses/judge.

Jin is already long settled.

Jimin could equally do dancing classes. He is good. He’s not the best but I am sure he can give good advice.

Jungkook is capable of doing whatever one puts him on the table. He is extremely limited intellectually, but his perseverance, ambition and concentration skills are always up there visible.

TH who had everything from dancing, rapping, singing skills to a natural attractive personality on stage, has lost all of that due to his personality.

People will use his weakness and attention-seeking-pathology, will suck put him as much as possible, same as his parents and unless he puts a stop to it, I don’t see him ending anywhere good.

His character and lifestyle, attraction to meaningless immoral aspects of life and refusal of acknowledging his visible damages, are very similar to the character in the book. Dorian was aware over the fact that what he’s doing is wrong. He still did it. Because people were praying his face and he didn’t had to do anything for it.
And ar-em can also work his brains well. He will be taking TOEIC for the 2nd time even he already scored high on the first one. He's trending on Twitter

 






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halley

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I personally don’t agree, nor support any of the theories “sacrifice “, “cult “, “mind control” etc in relation to BTS. I have explained why in the other forum a while ago.

I know a lot of people who are in the freemasonry and most of the time it’s just basic stuff and connections. In America they do engage in creepy stuff, with or without Freemasonry and it always involves high ranking people and people from the entertainment industry.

That been said - since everything about BTS is made up to appeal to a certain “victim ideology”, One cannot know what’s true or false, but since TH has genuinely showed that he has/had a close to his grandparents, one can assume that it’s true and he did lived mostly with his grandparents while his parents were working as farmers.

From the pictures, it doesn’t seem to me that his family was so incredible poor, they (grandparents) had a normal household, he had toys and costumes, things that a very poor person cannot afford.

In this scenario I personally can only conclude that his parents couldn’t care less about him and sent TH to live more with the grandparents while they took care of the other two children, which makes little sense, because usually one sends the younger ones to live with the grandparents as they’re more difficult to be taken care of.

This has been my personal experience in my own family.

TH has huge daddy issues that are growing unnoticeable because of his own personality which developed into something more and more shallow.

He is obsessed with his father - typical for anyone with this complex, who has suffered psychologically damage, more prominent the older one becomes.

His constant need for attention is born from the lack of a father figure which was replaced by a very disturbed man, Bang Si-Hyuk and his activity as a puppet in a band, whose success is based on the ultimate stupidity and superficiality of a surreal “importance” that exists only due to the obsessiveness of young/middle age vulnerable girls/women. He and the rest are enjoying enormous attention and surrounded by fake people profiting from their constant need for attention with absolutely no merit.

Professionally speaking what they’re doing it’s a disgrace.

He’s constantly talking about his father which is the first sign of a psychological problematic and someone with “daddy issues”, constantly purchasing something for him or talking about “I’m going to buy this for my dad”.
Trying to buy his father’s attention which he’ll never receive because his parents sold him in a figuratively way of speaking and in a literally way - rather than worrying about their underage son being hit by strangers, forced to diet, extensive damaging dying of the hair, wearing dresses and girls make-up, traveling abroad surrounded by strangers, etc..., they are fine with everything he does, because he buys them expensive houses and offers them a lavish lifestyle (hence the luxurious house, furniture, etc).
He brags about “drinking with his father” , I bet they tell him no words of critique, but praise everything he’s doing because TH is very easy to read, even without knowing him. He’s constantly begging for attention, often annoying within the group. So all you need to do is praising him and acting as if everything he’s doing is great and he’ll eat you from the palm.
I’ve noticed that in the past year more and more often until it became constant, he says something and then looks at a person behind the camera to wait for “approval” and fake laughs. I’ve seen compilation with him saying something and then girl laughters from the staffers, even though he wasn’t saying anything remotely funny.

It happens with Jimin and Jungkook as well.

TH isn’t the only one here. The other two are also very insecure and looking for approval.
But TH is the one where this issue is very visible and wether it was a fake info or not, I can imagine it to carry some truth - staffers leaking information about TH being annoying and difficult because he constantly needs attention and will become irritable if there’s someone who doesn’t give him full attention.
If this was very noticeable on stage, I can imagine how annoying he can be behind the stage which is why, because it’s obvious that some of the members can’t stand him, I can understand how the others can be annoyed by him but have to keep it up because he sells the most and it’s the most attractive one, from a bankable point of view.
When they have a group foto, he’ll always do something to attract attention. Either sitting on someone’s lap, fooling around rather than staying in the group or like the last photo-shooting where he grabs Jin

http://instagr.am/p/CCtbDnvp8dI/
All of that it’s not an excuse though because if you’re too dumb to notice that your parents sold you and ignore the signals such as never wonder why your parents agreed with everything, once you started paying for their life, if you’re not smart enough to realize that the people around you are using you, then the parents cannot totally be blamed.

Suga turned out fine, despite his parents not agreeing (for good reason) with him being part of a gay band and not having a real profession. You don’t see Suga having daddy issues. You don’t see him constantly asking for attention. He’s smart enough to at least not engage in this kind of a pathological behavior. One could say that Suga was even more a victim of childhood abandonment.
I used to admire and respect Suga fighting despite the family being against it and managing his way though. He indeed couldn’t care less about what people are thinking and that’s the only way you get to do things in life.


The difference between the two? TH was/is handsome but at best a person with no ambition or morals who destroyed every single quality he was given because he enjoys the superficial attention that his looks are receiving and Suga had to fight for every ounce of attention and admiration. Same as Namjoon.

TH had more native qualities than everyone else but one deficit - his face. A bit like the story of The Picture of Dorian Gray.

I am going to quote Wikipedia’s summary because it’s short and can be use as a reference to the situation:

“Dorian Gray is the subject of a full-length portrait in oil by Basil Hallward, an artist impressed and infatuated by Dorian's beauty; he believes that Dorian's beauty is responsible for the new mood in his art as a painter. Through Basil, Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, and he soon is enthralled by the aristocrat's hedonistic world view: that beauty and sensual fulfilment are the only things worth pursuing in life.

Newly understanding that his beauty will fade, Dorian expresses the desire to sell his soul, to ensure that the picture, rather than he, will age and fade. The wish is granted, and Dorian pursues a libertine life of varied amoral experiences while staying young and beautiful; all the while, his portrait ages and records every sin.[6]”



I read the book, it’s a warning for everyone who’s handsome but lacks intelligence, ambition and is surrounded by the wrong kind of people. The ugliness and flaws of Dorian are becoming grotesque in that painting.

I have long pointed out to some weird shit TH has started doing. The principle behind it it’s no different than the story of the book.
Back to his parents - mean cold hearted bastards who have noticed that they can manipulate their own son into giving them money, by using a huge problematic character flow which will cause him a lot of trouble and (already visible) damages, for money.
You realize that they’re sitting there at the table that TH bought them, in the house that TH purchased, praising everything, fake smiling at their son, in exchange for a luxurious life style. Their own son. That they gave up long before this started.
His father, first worried that he would have to pay for his son if he doesn’t get a job, said that he will only allow him to join kpop, if he learns an instrument - so the man was well aware that kpop is a shitty thing and not a real profession from which you can learn or do something in your later life. It’s not like he was totally blinded by the “magic of kpop”...

Yet, once TH started to earn money, he wasn’t worried about TH not having a real job. Not learning for school, not educating himself.
If one approaches it strictly professional: Namjoon, Suga, Hoseok can earn money on their own. Either through songwriting/producing or Hoseok through dancing/dance courses/judge.

Jin is already long settled.

Jimin could equally do dancing classes. He is good. He’s not the best but I am sure he can give good advice.

Jungkook is capable of doing whatever one puts him on the table. He is extremely limited intellectually, but his perseverance, ambition and concentration skills are always up there visible.

TH who had everything from dancing, rapping, singing skills to a natural attractive personality on stage, has lost all of that due to his personality.

People will use his weakness and attention-seeking-pathology, will suck put him as much as possible, same as his parents and unless he puts a stop to it, I don’t see him ending anywhere good.

His character and lifestyle, attraction to meaningless immoral aspects of life and refusal of acknowledging his visible damages, are very similar to the character in the book. Dorian was aware over the fact that what he’s doing is wrong. He still did it. Because people were praying his face and he didn’t had to do anything for it.
Regarding TH. I found him very interesting. Yes he is handsome something about his face you cannot keep your eyes out.

I don't religiously watch all BTeEs videos but when I do, I will observe TH. I think the last Run BTS when all the members creating literal clothes to wear, he made up something interesting. A bag or something, Jimin wears.

Not sure if it was scripted. But TH photo of Jimen wearing his clothes scored one of the lowest just because the "AMRY" won't be happy because they cannot see Jemin face.

For me, that photo does retain the theme of loneliness. And that weird piece of clothes TH made oddly fitting.

There are couple moments I watched, you can simple search about how Genius TH is

If he's not genius, he's kind who thinks outside of the box. Even his Tata (again, not sure if it's scripted) but Tata's concept rather eccentric. And he was right when he said that AMRY do not only want cute emoji but they want unique ones.

Yes. I do agree someone mentioned that TH might clinically depressed or undergoing some sort of mental illness. It would be amazing if they don't.

When I watched that Spring Day, graduation class. You can see clearly TH's body language, he turns away from all the members.

He kept repeatedly saying "I am a good boy." Means maybe somehow along the way he decided to rebel. That's why he was excluded from that group signature from the T-shirt.

Maybe some sort of warning. It is easy to take everything he has for whatever they built is house of cards anyway.
Yes, tea is very interesting case for me too. I can support what you guys say with astrological point of view.

(based on his alleged birth time)

He has sun in the 1st house. He is self centered person, may put his needs before others and he can naturally attracts people attention (handsome). He also have Jupiter. He is also very gifted with natural talent that will effect every aspect of his life. This also explains his multi talents. He can also be very direct.

He has lack water elements in his chart and he also have moon in Aries. He prone to sudden outburst of anger and he has lack of "handling people" or in other words, lack of being tactful when communicating with people. As a result, he can rub people in the wrong way.
Some of you can think that he is actually tactful person but those effects are came from creative (think outside of the box) nature of Venus in Aquarius and quick mind/reflexes of Moon in Aries. When it comes to emotions, he is not very good at "handling". That is why he has problems with B@ng p-d who has lots of Leo placements in his chart. P_d's huge ego do not mixed well with Tea's self centered nature.

He has lots of Capricorn placements. Capricorns are famous for shooting their own self in the foot.

He has Saturn in 3rd house. Self expression and communication problems... In his early childhood and developmental years, he may have faced with lots of problems with friends or close environment especially in school.

He has moon in 4th house. He is actually family oriented so he is not lying when he talks things about how he wants family, children etc. Capricorns are also naturally family oriented people (not like the way of Cancer but still is).
Moon also gives our inner fears.
"The Moon in the 4th house of the chart suggests that their place of residence is constantly undergoing change. It is also descriptive of a strong emotional bond with the father, and he may be viewed as emotional, protective, unstable, or moody and unreliable. The Moon is the mother image and is usually associated with the females of the family – mother, aunts, sisters and the maternal line, and if aspects are favorable this person may benefit from inheritances through women." In his case, it is grandmother.
But it is important to state that even thought, he is family oriented he still is independent and rebel in nature.

Last but not least, He has Pluto in 12th house. Lots of crisis and transformations in subconscious mind...
"When something bad happens, emotionally intense, they feel it in the marrow of their bones, a psychological pain that extends further and further until it reaches their souls. With pain, however, they will learn how to empathize."
"They will feel like they’ve lost themselves, lacking in an identity, with no clear purpose for the future, confused and disoriented. Faith is what’s needed. "
"The lack of control becomes even more imperious and critical. Emotions will bubble up and explode."
"Depression, addictions, perpetual sadness, the constant feeling of inadequacy, these demons have to be taken care of."
"These people tend to repress their emotions and keep themselves hidden from the rest of the world. There are many reasons for this choice, but the end result is always the same, depression, sadness, grief, even obsessive behaviors that are too destructive to keep."
"This position is sometimes associated with powerful or unexpected enemies. It can also indicate dark, intense dreams–more so for you than most."
"You have a deep interest in secrets, the underworld or unconscious, and anything hidden and mysterious. Psychoanalysis, investigating your dreams, and other methods of uncovering secrets are very interesting to you. You may be exceptionally perceptive intuitively or psychically. Your emotions and subconscious energies are complex, and periodic transformations and personal crises are sprinkled liberally throughout your lifetime."

it may also indicate hidden sexual fantasies.
 






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