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BTS released their newest song - film out.
It’s their worst song.
I had difficulties to listen it until the end. When I finally thought it is the end after their high-pitched vocals especially Jimin’s ruined my years, the last 50 seconds turned to be the apogee.


Same "hardship" , pain, please save me, only you and I...blabla lyrics.

What else would you expect on fools day then a joke? I have one word for this: boring.
No longer remember much of their songs, but I know they were able to evoke emotion or spark interest thanks to melody.
Here, none of it.
 






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The part with scratching hands was to create a scenario similar to those given in those circles, creating a fake story, involving "sufferance" , blood, "pain" etc and then it's very easy to write anything when you're given key words/scenario. This was the reason why I invited people to write (for themselves, not necessarily in public) some lyrics build on the story given. To prove that if you're giving some effort, you'll be able to write lyrics similar to those of BTS without having any relation to the story or words written.
But also yes, it influence the state of mind. Especially their target - aren't all BTS and Billie Eilish fans filled with "hardship" and dealing with "mental health issues" ? Suddenly? Just because BTS mentioned?
Aren't BTS constantly using semi-suicidial words and thoughts and their fans desperately trying to get their attention by becoming depressed? Aren't BTS fans feel depressed but also "healed" through BTS's lyrics and music...?.....


What Bang did with that disgusting questionnaire and the lack of backlash should have been the biggest warning. Since their fans are minors, he should have been arrested, or fined for it.
This whole business with boybands is about manipulating young girls.
EVERYTHING about it - the lyrics, the photos, videos, it's an entire process in which people are hired who know what works the best into manipulating young teenagers, especially girls, which isn't very hard. All you need is cute boys, some struggling lyrics, some sentimental appealing to their hormones, the rest is history.

The easiest way to trap teenagers is to tell them that they are trapped, parents/school/life keeps you hostage, you can't do what you want to to and THEY have the answer. Similar to the political game - you are a victim, everything is bad, we have the answer.
It is normal for any teenager to believe this. I was raised more strict and back in my days parents and teachers used to tease the "libertarian" ideologies imported from the west.
I understand why you would like the song, why any young person would like N.O, so based on what I've wrote before, let's take the lyrics:

[Hook: RM]
A good house, a good car, will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul to the SKY, would your parents be happy?
[Verse 1: Jungkook]
Dream is gone, no time to breathe
School, house and PC room is all we have
We live the same life
And have to become number one

For us it's like a double spy between dream and reality

1) they had no idea what owning a car or house means, hence happiness. They didn't even had a driver's license. Prooving - someone else wrote the lyrics, by default they couldn't have known what they talk about, it's standard things especially to attract young people who (correctly) are being told, that if you work and learn through school you would get a good job, earn a house, have a car - HELL YEAH. Nowadays governments want to take your car and house so owning a house that noone can take away is actually quite important.

2) I did not had a PC, nor a PC room, nor a house and for many people being accepted into a good school is a dream already.
BTS didn't even went to school/highschool as you know from what I've pointed out in the past.
So no, they don't live the same life like you or others, because you probably had to go home and learn for school.

3) what dream what reality. They use some farfetched lyrics again to attract young people and worsening the already sensitive situation of teenagers always thinking everything sucks.

[Verse 2: Suga]
Who is the one who made us into study machines?
It's either number one or a failure
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent
Even if we think simply, it’s the survival of the fittest

Who do you think is the one who makes us step on even our close friends to climb up? What?

come again?? "study machines" ?
where. when.
Already talked about teenagers thinking adults are the worst, trapping them.
"No choice but to consent"
Yes, there are plenty reasons for that - brain isn't even fully developed until 20 or so !
You give full consent to a child/minor/young person -- they'll be dead within one month.
Stepping on close friends to climb up..please...such a kitsch to pretend he knows what he's talking about.. The only one who stepped on someone is Bang.

[Pre-Chorus: V, Jungkook]
Adults tell me that hardships are only momentary
To endure a little more, to do it later
[Chorus: All, Jungkook, Jimin]
Everybody say NO!
It's not going to work anymore

Don't be captured in others dreams
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll
Everybody say NO!
It has to be now
We've done nothing yet
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll


Everybody say NO!


They are basically telling young people to tell adults how things are...hahahahaha.
"others dreams" ? This isn't an original though and if we''re talking about "others dreams"...they are Bang's monkeys who made a at least 2,7Billion fortune out of them. Yet they can't figure it out?? After 11 years..

The same goes for the rest of the song, no need to quote the entire text. Except one verse:

"Adults say that we have it so easy"

Yes. And they still have it. They act and think like children who have no idea about the evil that's going on in the world, because they don't learn, don't read, don't collect information, yet think they know better.
Yes, as a young person you have it easier, because you have no clue about how evil the world is and what real problems are.


hahaha, Katy Perry, like Beyonce, like everyone else, use the word "inspiration" every time they STEAL.
There is NOTHING in that Katy Perry's song which fits the definition of the word "inspiration". Only intellectual theft.
I guess you're right. I wonder why the company decides to focus so much on such dark topics. After what you've said, it really seems way too suspicious and creepy. Especially since, and I dont remember when exactly that questionaire happened, about 3 years ago at least, it's weird to make a dark story when they know a lot of BTS fans suffer from depression.
I dont know about using words, but their music videos were definitely odd, especially the ones before.
Sorry if this is off topic, but that reminded me, I'm really curious what you think. In the other thread, maybe a year ago, I did a review of the Save me Webtoon. And BTS music videos have always been around struggles and suffering, but the webtoon kind of shed light on a lot of their music videos, which used the same imagery over and over. I'm curious, why so much focus on that story? Why be focused on a story where the character, based on real people, suffer from abuse, bullying, depression, and die? I mean, before the webtoon I just thought the music videos are just little stories, until I realized that the same themes were repeating, but it seems like almost all of BTS' music videos ((Run, I need you, Most Beautiful Moment in Life: prologue, Hilghlight Reels, (and it seems like) Fake Love, Euphoria, Short Films (Begin, Lie, Stigma, etc), and possibly more)) are about one story - which is the Save Me webtoon.
Do you think the webtoon idea came inspired by the music videos, and that they were random? Or did they plan at the start the story? And decided "this is the story, and we're gonna spent a hell of a lot of music videos telling it"?

In the story Jin keeps going back in time to save the others. Namjoon works at a gas station, and almost goes to jail after a fight with a customer, which Jin prevents by going back in time. Kook falls from a building right on Jin's car, which is just horrifying imagery in the webtoon, I wont post it here. This seemed like a suicide, but Kook just slipped when he was enjoying the night view. Yoongi burns himself alive after his father says no to his music dreams, and that Yoongi will end up killing himself like his mother (And Yoongi is the only character in the story who hates Jin for saving him). Jimin is trapped in a hospital where his mother put him, and shown that Jimin sees his feet covered in dirt. So I'm guessing it's OCD? Jhope suffers from narcolepsy. And Tae has dreams where he sees Namjoon in jail, Yoongi in a fire, and in one he's even drowning and sees Jimin drowning too, who he tries to reach. Tae also has an abusive father, who he in the end of the story tries to kill, but accidentally stabs Jin.

Here are a couple of moment, some are even exact shots from the music videos:
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Ooh, that's very interesting. I interpreted the song differently.
A good house, a good car, will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul to the SKY, would your parents be happy?

I interpreted this as "if I get a good house and good car, will I really be happy?" Since for a lot of parents that is the definition of a good life for their kids. To get into one of the 3 big unis and become a government worker.
School, house and PC room is all we have
This is about parents only being focused on school. There even a line in the song: There’s no conversation topics beside studying.
For us it's like a double spy between dream and reality
I kinda agree with you on this one, it's vague. But I assumed that it is about how in South Korea it's common for parents tell their children to only focus on studying, and nothing else. And I even remember Yoongi in one interview saying that in middle school his parents threw away all of his raps, and after that Yoongi promised that he would only focus on studying, while secretly doing music. If I'm not mistake, Namjoon also talked about something similar, like hiding his lyrics from his parents and putting blank paper in his textbooks so he could pretend like he was studying.
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent

I never thought it was about no choice as in - let kids roam around free, ahaha. I thought it meant you have no choice about your future. And I agree that children are too immature to decide, but is that an excuse for parents to decide a childs life for them? If you have a good relationship with your parents - you'll listen to them, because you know they're wise. If not - no matter what they say, you will rebel, simply out of frustration. If a parent acts in a way of "you're gonna do it my way, and I don't want to hear anything about your disagreeing with me", that never leads to anything good.
Even if we think simply, it’s the survival of the fittest
Who do you think is the one who makes us step on even our close friends to climb up? What?
This is about being number one in your studies.
Don't be captured in others dreams
I thought this was about being captured in your parent's dreams. Being what will make your parents happy.
Adults say that we have it so easy
I dont think it has anything to do with knowing evils of the world, since the song is about school. In context, I thought it meant how parents say "you only have to focus on your studies right now, not on adult responsibilities like all adults do".

I do agree with you a bit that the song kind of sounds like it's creating an "us vs them" mentality, deviding kids and their parents. Like, "c'mon, kids, rebel, school sucks, lets focus on our dreams, no matter how impractical they could be". Especially since it comes from, and look at it how most BTS fans see it, it's 7 guys who have actually managed to achieve their dreams. They're not some rapper who says "I've tried for 10 years to become successful, and I feel like I should just give up on it, because I'm getting nowhere, I'm broke and unhappy. But hey, shoot for the stars! I'm sure you can achieve your dreams!"

Edit: It just hit me. I usually watch BTS music videos without sound, and I wanted to check something. Why is the music video for I Need You so violent? Like, you hear "I need you girl!" as you see Tae stabbing his father. I just cant. I mean, where exactly is the connection between what you see on screen and the lyrics?
 






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Oh GOD. Not Scooter Braun.
Can be added to the list of worst (people) criminals in the industry.

Scooter Braun isn't the same that have some problems with Taylor Swif and others that work with him?
Yes

He stole Taylor Swift’s catalogue through a disgusting move and Taylor claims it was arranged and funded by Soros.
After that she started promoting all over he place homosexuality and gender Dysphoria
He is also Justin Bieber’s manager. The one who introduced him to...everything.
 






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Oh GOD. Not Scooter Braun.
Can be added to the list of worst (people) criminals in the industry.



Yes

He stole Taylor Swift’s catalogue through a disgusting move and Taylor claims it was arranged and funded by Soros.
After that she started promoting all over he place homosexuality and gender Dysphoria
He is also Justin Bieber’s manager. The one who introduced him to...everything.
What ur opinion abt this boti?
 






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Giving what I wrote about BTS members, everyone using BTS - BigHit/Bang/Lenzo/Staff/Lawyers/eveveryone in the company as well as the people who got rich because of all personal issues with BTS members not getting rid of their unintelligent and desperate need for attention which obviously led amongst others to gave up their rights even in their second contract - proving how their lawyers work for BigHit’s interest, because what makes the money is the image+copyrights, not BTS per se or their music/concerts, I can only once again place the attention on everything I wrote about them - sorry. A bunch of idiots with potential who are being used in a damaging way for young people, while everyone is fighting over getting a piece of their success for financial gain.
Obviously many other companies must have tried the same and if Bang/Lenzo are signing with Warner is only because Warner offered them behind closed doors access to whatever they wanted.
I don’t mean “rituals”, little boys, etc. those are for free. I mean access to private banks, funds, investments, even cash handed to them privately.
Etc

It shows that I was right with my financial analysis and BTS is still working as an employer for BigHit. Meaning they’re getting paid a salary while all the earnings are directed to BigHit.
With some minors exceptions.

Ending my post with the very first quote of the article (thank you for posting, this is ...bigger and worse by day) :

“The investment could give HBO the rights to content from BTS, TXT, and more.”

Actually one more thought - Bang knows it won’t last forever so maybe he’s being comfortable and gets smart advices (when it comes to exploiting BTS, him, his cousin and the people behind it are the best ) with cashing in as much as possible now for a percentage of BTS’s copyrights, which at a certain point in the near future will loose their value.

I don’t believe the txt part. I mean I believe it, as in copyrights, but txt is such a failure. I believe the article only mentions something in addition to BTS because it is so obvious that there is no company BigHit.
There is only BTS.
So basically Lenzo and Bang as well as the third which I never mention, but equally important (still forgot his name), are selling (some?) of BTS’s copyrights. And BTS don’t have anything to say.

All BTS cares, grown men, is for little children to hype them no matter what, and people around them to bow because they are soooo famous.
Meanwhile you have it right there in the article how dumb they are.
You must be really dumb and desperate to sign a contract at the highest point of your career and STILL give up all your rights. Still not having a say in what T-shirt to wear, still acting like a baby so that pervert pedo boss makes some money and you can check all the comments made by children after the show.

If they would at least not promote worst of the worst...but that’s the whole point.
At least when only Bang and Netmarble were holding the copyrights + 100 other investors, that was one thing.
But now more and more people own their asses.

What if one day one of them wakes up and is disgusted about what happen and doesn’t want to be associated with all of it anymore ?
Good luck with that.

I had one time in my life the chance to sign with two big labels interested. Coincidentally Warner was one of them, but my post has nothing to do with it, Warner is big, several divisions, secondary companies, etc.
The condition was to sign off my copyrights.

I thank God for my decision. It wasn’t even a difficult one.
Otherwise they would have used my image, dance, music to promote gays or vaccines or whatever they want. Out of my hands.
I don’t think I would have been able to sleep at night.
I was in a situation where I had no money and especially needed a practice room. They offered me a lot of money. Not suspiciously much, but enough to be rich, because I was performing quite often at that time.

No matter what you do in life, don’t give other people your rights in contracts. As much as possible of course. Most of the time it’s difficult to avoid the situation. Think about it that once you give up your rights you have no power anymore over your work or anything associated with you.
in BTS’s case - they already had money and especially power over Bang and BigHit. They never needed Bang or the company.
When you’re in a situation of holding all cards and you decide to loose because someone gives you an invisible robe (the story of the naked prince), you must be the dumbest person on the planet. Childish and desperate.
Hope those comments on social
media at worth for them.
Or the screams at concerts. Despite their playback and cracked voices. Except Jungkook’s voice.
 






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Giving what I wrote about BTS members, everyone using BTS - BigHit/Bang/Lenzo/Staff/Lawyers/eveveryone in the company as well as the people who got rich because of all personal issues with BTS members not getting rid of their unintelligent and desperate need for attention which obviously led amongst others to gave up their rights even in their second contract - proving how their lawyers work for BigHit’s interest, because what makes the money is the image+copyrights, not BTS per se or their music/concerts, I can only once again place the attention on everything I wrote about them - sorry. A bunch of idiots with potential who are being used in a damaging way for young people, while everyone is fighting over getting a piece of their success for financial gain.
Obviously many other companies must have tried the same and if Bang/Lenzo are signing with Warner is only because Warner offered them behind closed doors access to whatever they wanted.
I don’t mean “rituals”, little boys, etc. those are for free. I mean access to private banks, funds, investments, even cash handed to them privately.
Etc

It shows that I was right with my financial analysis and BTS is still working as an employer for BigHit. Meaning they’re getting paid a salary while all the earnings are directed to BigHit.
With some minors exceptions.

Ending my post with the very first quote of the article (thank you for posting, this is ...bigger and worse by day) :

“The investment could give HBO the rights to content from BTS, TXT, and more.”

Actually one more thought - Bang knows it won’t last forever so maybe he’s being comfortable and gets smart advices (when it comes to exploiting BTS, him, his cousin and the people behind it are the best ) with cashing in as much as possible now for a percentage of BTS’s copyrights, which at a certain point in the near future will loose their value.

I don’t believe the txt part. I mean I believe it, as in copyrights, but txt is such a failure. I believe the article only mentions something in addition to BTS because it is so obvious that there is no company BigHit.
There is only BTS.
So basically Lenzo and Bang as well as the third which I never mention, but equally important (still forgot his name), are selling (some?) of BTS’s copyrights. And BTS don’t have anything to say.

All BTS cares, grown men, is for little children to hype them no matter what, and people around them to bow because they are soooo famous.
Meanwhile you have it right there in the article how dumb they are.
You must be really dumb and desperate to sign a contract at the highest point of your career and STILL give up all your rights. Still not having a say in what T-shirt to wear, still acting like a baby so that pervert pedo boss makes some money and you can check all the comments made by children after the show.

If they would at least not promote worst of the worst...but that’s the whole point.
At least when only Bang and Netmarble were holding the copyrights + 100 other investors, that was one thing.
But now more and more people own their asses.

What if one day one of them wakes up and is disgusted about what happen and doesn’t want to be associated with all of it anymore ?
Good luck with that.

I had one time in my life the chance to sign with two big labels interested. Coincidentally Warner was one of them, but my post has nothing to do with it, Warner is big, several divisions, secondary companies, etc.
The condition was to sign off my copyrights.

I thank God for my decision. It wasn’t even a difficult one.
Otherwise they would have used my image, dance, music to promote gays or vaccines or whatever they want. Out of my hands.
I don’t think I would have been able to sleep at night.
I was in a situation where I had no money and especially needed a practice room. They offered me a lot of money. Not suspiciously much, but enough to be rich, because I was performing quite often at that time.

No matter what you do in life, don’t give other people your rights in contracts. As much as possible of course. Most of the time it’s difficult to avoid the situation. Think about it that once you give up your rights you have no power anymore over your work or anything associated with you.
in BTS’s case - they already had money and especially power over Bang and BigHit. They never needed Bang or the company.
When you’re in a situation of holding all cards and you decide to loose because someone gives you an invisible robe (the story of the naked prince), you must be the dumbest person on the planet. Childish and desperate.
Hope those comments on social
media at worth for them.
Or the screams at concerts. Despite their playback and cracked voices. Except Jungkook’s voice.
Iam agree with u, idk why bt5 still there? what they think? not confident or too scared? They already had the power to get out from that company
, ahh I remember you once said that you are more peaceful now, I'm sure you chose the right thing, life is not always about money even though we do need it. actually peace is the true wealth
 






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Iam agree with u, idk why bt5 still there? what they think? not confident or too scared? They already had the power to get out from that company
, ahh I remember you once said that you are more peaceful now, I'm sure you chose the right thing, life is not always about money even though we do need it. actually peace is the true wealth
You know that I have nothing to do with the being "trapped", "forced" afraid to escape, etc theories.
I've talked in the past how BTS isn't the only case of young boys hyping over being cheered. I mean...isn't it like the coolest thing for a kid who doesn't have to practice all day long like a classical musician, ballerina, or even a "nerd" in mathematics (which starts early in school)...to be suddenly hyped for basically just standing there on a stage and all girls, no matter what you do, fainting over how "cute" you are?
Children fight for attention, they wish attention.
Bang seemed to have constantly lead a psychological manipulation over them by making sure they believe they have no future without him. The way they always thank the staff, etc. It's their job. BTS don't realize even normal common things. It's a staff member being paid for what he's doing. Not that you don't have to be grateful for having people around you that you can trust, when you are famous, the trust is basically to not leak private things, but even this trust has been broken. Whether the rumor is real or not, BTS seemed to have gathered together after a show surprised about something private that has been leaked, wondering how it got outside.
Well...look around you, the people you "thank" are the ones who leaked information only they could have had access to.

They don't understand the importance of their image. Even if they don't, it's a manager's job, yes a MANAGER, to cover your BEST interest.
The whole thing it's a fraud, because a manager gets 10-20% of your fee for a concert. A lawyer works either on a annual fee or gets a percentage (5%) from everything else, things like all the commercial they sign up for.
The situation itself it's a fraud - you can't have your manager dealing everything, because that guy, especially someone like BANG, will do things based on what's in HIS best interest, especially since he also has a company.
To go even further - a manager is NEVER the guy working for your record company, or lawyer, or associated with anything else, than covering your best interests. A manager is the one who goes to BigHit and Bang and says - it is in Yoongi's best interest for this year to have a solo CD, the requirements for signing a new contract are as follow.....
Bang as a manager thinks not just against each of the individual's best interest, but also against the interest of the band. The only thing that matters for him is himself and his company.

When David Geffen (THE worst gay p***phile in the industry) took over Michael as his Lawyer/Manager he ruined him. Michael's former manager was Branca who Geffen hates.
Geffen fooled Michael Jackson who was desperate similar like BTS for attention and obsessed with going into movies, with the promise of making movies for him through Disney (along with Spielberg and Katzenberg), as such MJ fired Branca but they only used him.
During his time, through Branca, MJ purchased ATV (today Sony/ATV) for 47 millions, a company owning copyrights of many famous bands and singers, among others...all the BEATLES catalogue.
After his success over MJ firing Branca, Geffen at one point eyed probably the most valuable possession anyone in the music history could have had as a single person - the ATV catalogue. He offered MJ 75millions and even MJ, as blinded as he was, had a bad feeling so he called Branca.
In the end the catalogue sold for 1B, though it's worth more than that, with the last 50% MJ owned being sold by his estate to Sony.
p.s. Beatles also don't own their catalogue/copyrights, but people still hype them and buy their music.

What I want to say is that, even someone like MJ was utterly obsessed with people's attention and superficial things.




It is obvious that BTS are pathologically in need for attention and wooing/worshiping from their fans. They also get a considerable amount of money and benefits (free merch, clothes, entries,etc).
They are incapable of making any decisions, because they gladly let those kind of things in the hands of the people working for BANG (which is important because the staff doesn't have a contractual obligation towards BTS, but towards Bang).
If they never were in a position to make the smallest decision - not even such as....should I copy at tomorrow's test rather than spending one more hour learning ? ...for sure they are comfortable with this situation, which for them it's perfect.
They are still getting paid a salary, like any other BigHit employee, their name is still featured all over the place, the most important thing for them, their face is all over the walls, all over the shows, and they even live in the fake world created about them.
Believing they are singers, or important, or "idols".
They are only afraid of loosing the fake bubble of fame around them.
If they don't even care about at least improving or correcting their singing mistakes.
The only "fear" is the one they don't notice - the one of facing reality. Like I have written once - their crying on stage, especially Taehyung's regarding disbanding, was the fear of loosing this bubble around them and facing reality.
The feat that after 10 years when despite their lyrics, they were the ones partying and having fun, while other people their age were studying, they would loose all this "summer-camp" lifestyle and would actually have to do something.


Yes, I am at peace with my decision, after I've been through those 5 stages of grief before I started knowing more and more about how things work in the industry and in the world in general. I was afraid over my future, trying everything possible in order to "make it" , though not in a BTS way, just living with concerts and performances, whatever the size of the stage, but practicing my profession for which I've worked for and not playbacked, I thought more or less my life is over until I realized that it would have been over if I would have been part of it by giving up my copyrights, especially since I write all the material, including when working in a group of people. That's how I make my living.
I am not the only case. When you are young/ish, without much knowledge, you have no idea about this profession and who is making it at the top.

If a average music writer is making 6 figures yearly from copyrights, you can imagine that BTS's copyrights are worth more than the Beatles, probably a considerable amount of a few billions, because, like the issue with Taehyung's purple color and Samsung I have mentioned in the past, copyrights aren't limited to music.
They go into logo, style, video, photography, quotes, and many others.
If my song, I believe it can be as much as 30 seconds, doesn't have to be full played, is streamed once in a Radio, depending on the show's traffic/time/audience, I can make 50 EUR. That's about 60 us dollar.
How many billions of times have BTS been played monthly all over the world? How many times featured for a few seconds on TV, train stations, billboards, how many times their brand used in commercials, editorials, etc..
Now time the 60 dollars x 4 x a few billions, because they get paid just for being mentioned in a TV show, in a 30 seconds clip , copyrights for image, audio, video, performance.

They are so caught in this childish desperation, because yes, they never grew up, they are uneducated and ...not the brightest in the sky, Bang knows it, as long as they are cheered and talked about, the fact that they are even paid additionally, for them must be a big thing.

I doubt some of the members here, who are the same age as BTS, would find pleasure in being superficially worshiped by little children while you are not doing a thing. I am not talking about teaching children. I am talking about doing nothing with your life except playing children's games, sitting on a stage doing playback when you know damn well that you can't sing, yet cry over some creepy 16 old BOYS (cause with them is the opposite sex cheering) obsessed with you, wearing, doing and expressing the most embarrassing stupid thoughts, similar to the brain of a 7 year old, but being PROTECTED at the same time from any corrections by anyone, since BigHit is sueing you, so you think that you can say whatever stupid thing is going through your head with NO consequence, and afraid of loosing the fun of THIS life.


That's what they are afraid of, living in a world they don't realize it doesn't exists.
If they would have read ONE book, one single important book, like Crime and Punishment, maybe they would have realized how bad it is what they are doing to themselves. and the evilness of their parents..except Jin's.
 






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I've been an army for a while, and I decided to quit.
I, too, felt that there was something wrong with the band since they became famous, especially the gay fan service, it's disturbing. It saddens me to see them lose their self-image.

let me quote choi siwon's tweet about his opinion on homosexuals before he deleted it because it went viral :
"While I respect all genders, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, as I have been taught that God created man and woman with specific characteristics and duties. I realize that with globalization, there are many [entertainers] who do not share my views. There are those who are value-oriented and those who are success-oriented. However, shouldn’t an actor deliver an image to his audience through roles he chooses to portray, based on his beliefs in life?".

bts members are all grown men, and i am sure they are aware of the path of life they are currently choosing. they choose to become elite puppets consciously and for the sake of fame. they actively campaign "love myself" but on the other hand they constantly seeking validation from their millions fans just to know that they are loved.

They "love myself" agenda is simply to make humans become more selfish to put their own interests first rather than believe in God.

for me, the bts wave (with all the dark agenda behind it) is scarry as hell.
 






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You know that I have nothing to do with the being "trapped", "forced" afraid to escape, etc theories.
I've talked in the past how BTS isn't the only case of young boys hyping over being cheered. I mean...isn't it like the coolest thing for a kid who doesn't have to practice all day long like a classical musician, ballerina, or even a "nerd" in mathematics (which starts early in school)...to be suddenly hyped for basically just standing there on a stage and all girls, no matter what you do, fainting over how "cute" you are?
Children fight for attention, they wish attention.
Bang seemed to have constantly lead a psychological manipulation over them by making sure they believe they have no future without him. The way they always thank the staff, etc. It's their job. BTS don't realize even normal common things. It's a staff member being paid for what he's doing. Not that you don't have to be grateful for having people around you that you can trust, when you are famous, the trust is basically to not leak private things, but even this trust has been broken. Whether the rumor is real or not, BTS seemed to have gathered together after a show surprised about something private that has been leaked, wondering how it got outside.
Well...look around you, the people you "thank" are the ones who leaked information only they could have had access to.

They don't understand the importance of their image. Even if they don't, it's a manager's job, yes a MANAGER, to cover your BEST interest.
The whole thing it's a fraud, because a manager gets 10-20% of your fee for a concert. A lawyer works either on a annual fee or gets a percentage (5%) from everything else, things like all the commercial they sign up for.
The situation itself it's a fraud - you can't have your manager dealing everything, because that guy, especially someone like BANG, will do things based on what's in HIS best interest, especially since he also has a company.
To go even further - a manager is NEVER the guy working for your record company, or lawyer, or associated with anything else, than covering your best interests. A manager is the one who goes to BigHit and Bang and says - it is in Yoongi's best interest for this year to have a solo CD, the requirements for signing a new contract are as follow.....
Bang as a manager things not just against each of the individual's best interest, but also against the interest of the band. The only thing that matters for him is himself and his company.

When David Geffen (THE worst gay p***phile in the industry) took over Michael as his Lawyer/Manager he ruined him. Michael's former manager was Branca who Geffen hates.
Geffen fooled Michael Jackson who was desperate similar like BTS for attention and obsessed with going into movies, with the promise of making movies for him through Disney (along with Spielberg and Katzenberg), as such MJ fired Branca but they only used him.
During his time, through Branca, MJ purchased ATV (today Sony/ATV) for 47 millions, a company owning copyrights of many famous bands and singers, among others...all the BEATLES catalogue.
After his success over MJ firing Branca, Geffen at one point eyed probably the most valuable possession anyone in the music history could have had as a single person - the ATV catalogue. He offered MJ 75millions and even MJ, as blinded as he was, had a bad feeling so he called Branca.
In the end the catalogue sold for 1B, though it's worth more than that, with the last 50% MJ owned being sold by his estate to Sony.
p.s. Beatles also don't own their catalogue/copyrights, but people still hype them and buy their music.

What I want to say is that, even someone like MJ was utterly obsessed with people's attention and superficial things.




It is obvious that BTS are pathologically in need for attention and wooing/worshiping from their fans. They also get a considerable amount of money and benefits (free merch, clothes, entries,etc).
They are incapable of making any decisions, because they gladly let those kind of things in the hands of the people working for BANG (which is important because the staff doesn't have a contractual obligation towards BTS, but towards Bang).
If they never were in a position to make the smallest decision - not even such as....should I copy at tomorrow's test rather than spending one more hour learning ? ...for sure they are comfortable with this situation, which for them it's perfect.
They are still getting paid a salary, like any other BigHit employee, their name is still featured all over the place, the most important thing for them, their face is all over the walls, all over the shows, and they even live in the fake world created about them.
Believing they are singers, or important, or "idols".
They are only afraid of loosing the fake bubble of fame around them.
If they don't even care about at least improving or correcting their singing mistakes.
The only "fear" is the one they don't notice - the one of facing reality. Like I have written once - their crying on stage, especially Taehyung's regarding disbanding, was the fear of loosing this bubble around them and facing reality.
The feat that after 10 years when despite their lyrics, they were the ones partying and having fun, while other people their age were studying, they would loose all this "summer-camp" lifestyle and would actually have to do something.


Yes, I am at peace with my decision, after I've been through those 5 stages of grief before I started knowing more and more about how things work in the industry and in the world in general. I was afraid over my future, trying everything possible in order to "make it" , though not in a BTS way, just living with concerts and performances, whatever the size of the stage, but practicing my profession for which I've worked for and not playbacked, I thought more or less my life is over until I realized that it would have been over if I would have been part of it by giving up my copyrights, especially singe I write all the material, including when working in a group of people. That's how I make my living.
I am not the only case. When you are young/ish, without much knowledge, you have no idea about this profession and who is making it at the top.

If a average music writer is making 6 figures yearly from copyrights, you can imagine that BTS's copyrights are worth more than the Beatles, probably a considerable amount of a few billions, because, like the issue with Taehyung's purple color and Samsung I have mentioned in the past, copyrights aren't limited to music.
They go into logo, style, video, photography, quotes, and many others.
If my song, I believe it can be as much as 30 seconds, doesn't have to be full played, is streamed once in a Radio, depending on the show's traffic/time/audience, I can make 50 EUR. That's about 60 us dollar.
How many billions of times have BTS been played monthly all over the world? How many times featured for a few seconds on TV, train stations, billboards, how many times their brand used in commercials, editorials, etc..
Now time the 60 dollars x 4 x a few billions, because they get paid just for being mentioned in a TV show, in a 30 seconds clip , copyrights for image, audio, video, performance.

They are so caught in this childish desperation, because yes, they never grew up, they are uneducated and ...not the brightest in the sky, Bang knows it, as long as they are cheered and talked about, the fact that they are even paid additionally, for them must be a big thing.

I doubt some of the members here, who are the same age as BTS, would find pleasure in being superficially worshiped by little children while you are not doing a thing. I am not talking about teaching children. I am talking about doing nothing with your life except playing children's games, sitting on a stage doing playback when you know damn well that you can't sing, yet cry over some creepy 16 old BOYS (cause with them is the opposite sex cheering) obsessed with you, wearing, doing and expressing the most embarrassing stupid thoughts, similar to the brain of a 7 year old, but being PROTECTED at the same time from any corrections by anyone, since BigHit is sueing you, so you think that you can say whatever stupid thing is going through your head with NO consequence, and afraid of loosing the fun of THIS life.


That's what they are afraid of, living in a world they don't realize it doesn't exists.
If they would have read ONE book, one single important book, like Crime and Punishment, maybe they would have realized how bad it is what they are doing to themselves. and the evilness of their parents..except Jin's.
Couldnt agree more, iam speechless
 






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I've been an army for a while, and I decided to quit.
I, too, felt that there was something wrong with the band since they became famous, especially the gay fan service, it's disturbing. It saddens me to see them lose their self-image.

let me quote choi siwon's tweet about his opinion on homosexuals before he deleted it because it went viral :
"While I respect all genders, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, as I have been taught that God created man and woman with specific characteristics and duties. I realize that with globalization, there are many [entertainers] who do not share my views. There are those who are value-oriented and those who are success-oriented. However, shouldn’t an actor deliver an image to his audience through roles he chooses to portray, based on his beliefs in life?".

bts members are all grown men, and i am sure they are aware of the path of life they are currently choosing. they choose to become elite puppets consciously and for the sake of fame. they actively campaign "love myself" but on the other hand they constantly seeking validation from their millions fans just to know that they are loved.

They "love myself" agenda is simply to make humans become more selfish to put their own interests first rather than believe in God.

for me, the bts wave (with all the dark agenda behind it) is scarry as hell.

I read this article from 2015


related to this case


I remember the case especially how this person was vilified in the news. Showing the importance of press and how gas-lighted we are through the powers of mass-media.
I am a small percentage of people to have actually lived daily the terror of the gays and their sick behavior.
A person who doesn't have much contact with and isn't experiencing the reality of this mental disease, is shaping her opinion in life, when common sense or religious believes are missing, based on how people are being viewed in the society who are acting like the clerk did, or like the singer responded.
Nobody is seeing homosexuality as an issue, it is more a normality in which we, "hetero" people are the abnormality.
This all because of the mass-media power.
Daily articles showing you that you are a bad person by not embracing homosexuality.

I am surprised how his tweet could have faced a backlash in 2015. In South Korea.

BTS have done nothing but to encourage homosexuality through their appearance and so called "fan-serice" - which got worse since their America debut, because during the shows I've seen from around 2015, they were acting normal during interviews.
Nowadays, there is no interview where Taehyung isn't in charge for touching, hugging, or sitting on someone's lap.
In addition, their whole "love yourself" campaign and constant talk about mental diseases, pushed young people into lashing like zombies out against every single person who isn't gay.

What they receive from their fans is obsession, not love. Which is dangerous. Also personally. Towards a partner. Worshiping him. Ignoring his true self, which their fans don't even care. I doubt their fans care much about who the members are. As long as their fantasies are satisfied.
Love myself, yourself so I can do whatever I want, even sleep with children.

A friend of mine sent me an interview of writer/psychologist named Richard David Precht who, in an interview regarding his thesis of love being unnecessary said this (translated from german):

"Sexual love is a diversion from nature. Its biological function is actually a bond between parents and children. Only in puberty does the intuitive bond with the parents loosen, and a deficit occurs. We compensate for this by redirecting our two main longings, the one for excitement and the one for security, to someone else."

original article

While it doesn't take a genius to know how young girls are easy to manipulate, same as young boys getting erections from the smallest boob they see on TV, in the end their fans are looking for a teenage-crush in the most perfect way - perfect looking guy, perfectly shaved, no stinky breath, no farts, always giving you attention, always mentioning you, and doing everything for you..basically something surreal.
Their "love yourself" campaign promotes also this scenario of beliving that everything you do is correct, otherwise you don't love yourself and anyone who criticizes you is harming/threat to your life.

I've seen accounts of young girls even promoting the horrible ideology of "toxic masculinity", as if a 16 year old understands either the agenda behind it - of turning boys into gays, because looking manly is nowadays a sin, and turning girls into the typical manly lesbian and any guy who says something is a toxic male - nor can they possibly know what masculinity means.

Here lies the power of BTS's agenda. You get a generation of people following the orders of whoever gives them the illusion of freedom of doing whatever you want.

"love yourself" no matter what...with this thought at least some of them will end up in prison. Wonder if BTS will bail them out.
 






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Old news but good to know

Asgardia - Freemasons project and recognized by UN.


“Where all the nations finally are one”

With the anthem in English and a Russian billionaire in the background dealing with the mic
Haha





also correct:



Jungkook’s voice got so deep

http://instagr.am/p/CNC0OPjhvR5/
http://instagr.am/p/CMBBP4aBbeT/

This is actually good

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLyyyMWBBMV/?igshid=1du62x372h63u



But somehow half emotionless. Not that he doesn’t have feelings in his singing, also here despite being only a video(chat), but despite of his abilities of bringing emotions into singing, it’s limited by how he’s being told to act on camera.
When they perform, they never really perform. It’s more like a video shooting.
All their stage performances are for the camera filming them and the DVD’s to be released afterwards.
Not for the public.

Unfortunately boy has nothing in his head

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMI22o3hVgj/?igshid=1ehevjp3p6cc

Another example of manipulation, romanticizing depression, etc.
this girl presents her self and then, to draw their attention because that how fans were thought, next thing is to mention that she has “depression and anxiety issues”, which, if that would truly be the case, wouldn’t pop out as a second sentence in a conversation. Nor would the next thing be how BTS helped her issues and to “love herself”.
One of the things you learn when really suffering from depression is how to handle yourself, what brought the psychological imbalance, what were the problems you thought they cannot be handled anymore, so and on.
It is obvious that those people don’t suffer from depression but that’s what Bang’s agenda caused.
Well, it wasn’t his agenda. It is leftist elite agenda. Victimhood and mental “health”

Drawing BTS’s attention through victimizing and romanticizing mental illnesses.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJdx4cSBNrF/?igshid=t3vw3pdxidfk
 






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Bt$ have gotten really boring, but unfortunately it seems like Pedo Bang has now become unstoppable after buying up Scooter Brauns company. It doesnt matter how many failed kpop groups they pump out, success and money is granted now. Scooter Braun is now also one billion usd richer , granting him a billionaire status that opens new doors. He is also a close friend of another notorious pedo homo music mogul -David Geffen. The whole thing just shows how all these media moguls are connected and working towards the same goals and agendas, hence why you the the same themes, symbols and agendas all over the place. Another point is how the rich 1% always seem to be getting richer based the on ridiculous premises of stock price, percieved values and public manipulation. Just like how to richest billionaires such as Bezo$ and EloN Mu$k have become hundreds of billions of dollars richer in one year, while the world is in shambles because of covid. These things don’t benefit the economy or general public in the long term, just the owners.

Speaking of agendas,
Lately it seems that the feminization of men and gender blurring agenda has really become stronger and much more visible. I recerntly saw that the New England Journal of Medicine (perhaps the most respected medical journal in the world) published an opinion about how gender should not be assigned on birth certificates! I could nor believe my eyes. It’s complete madness and is now trying to infiltrate the scientific communtity. Ask any sane person in the medical or science community.

They are not trying to make women stronger, in fact quite the opposite, women are continuosly reduced to whores and sex objects in the media. It seems that they have similar plans for boys and young men. It is very obvious with the new generation of influencers including Tik Tokers, social media personalities and ”artists” like Lil Na$ XX. James Charles is a great example. Ladyboy. Caught sexting 15 yo boys every week and grosses every one out. Unfortunately he seems to have full ammunition from the media bosses.
 






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More informations on Bang’s deal with Scooter’s company:

They purchased it for 1.05 B and one of the stock owners was the Carlyle group. Once again. THE CARLYLE GROUP, home of deep state players - Obama, Bush, Soros, Clinton, Bin Laden.

The reason why Swift mentioned Soros.

Her catalogue was at that time from the most valuable item when Scooter Braun purchased the company.

I have followed the lies and hypocrisy of Scooter Braun and the deal, that guy and the people involved are from the worst kind.

Carlyle Group wouldn’t have invested money in a little boy - Scott Braun - who did nothing but make sure Justin Bieber delivers to the people with money at all cost.

Not that Taylor Swift doesn’t deserve exactly that for her homosexual and gender dysphoria propaganda, but the way Scooter Braun tried aggressively to make Taylor the bad guy in the press claiming he did nothing wrong and offered her to purchase her stake (??) made him top in my list.

https://www.businessinsider.com/taylor-swift-carlyle-group-deal-with-big-machine-records-2019-11


Justin Bieber can water his sink with this new-found religious beliefs image and to the public presented life - style. He and Demi Lovato took Braun’s side.

The two people under Scooter Braun who ended up fucked and drug addicts...thanks to his influence and guidance...
She was given by him an opportunity to buy her 6 albums for 300 millions, but I understand why shy didn’t wanted to buy it for more money than he paid for, from the guy that bullied her, making him richer through the profit from the sale.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2020-11-22/the-end-of-taylor-swift-s-300-million-fight-with-scooter-braun


From this article

“As for Big Machine, the label remains in the hands of Braun and Borchetta with a current roster that includes Sheryl Crow, Florida Georgia Line, Thomas Rhett, Rascal Flatts and Lady A, the trio formerly known as Lady Antebellum.

Carlyle Group is a minority shareholder in Ithaca, which in recent years has launched Mythos Studios, in partnership with Marvel Founding Chairman David Maisel, acquired Atlas Publishing, and partnered with Jason Owen’s Sandbox Entertainment. Ithaca also has a long-standing investment in and partnership with Aubrey “Drake” Graham and Adel “Future” Nur. In 2019, Ithaca launched Raised in Space, an investment fund led by former BMG President Zach Katz.”


That’s what will get into Bang’s hands, in return Warner is taking over BTS’s copyrights.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/02/bts-korean-record-label-buys-justin-bieber-management-company



Warner has also been pretty active in China as well

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56479710


https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54969396



As per Taylor Swift’s words - “This was the second time my music had been sold without my knowledge”.

Scooter Braun sold her catalogue to Shamrock capital and take a look at what happened this time:



Shamrock Capital:


https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/why-taylor-swift-scooter-braun-shamrock-1091742/



It’s not like Taylor Swift writes 100% of her songs, produced it, etc, or that her songs are all good, but it’s not all bad.

She isn’t the only case in this situation - just yesterday I pointed out about Michael Jackson owning the Beatles’s catalogue. Or REM who gave up their copyrights.

All of them could have purchased their own rights back or not sell it at all.

As oppose to my situation, all of them come from families with connections, money, means and someone like Taylor Swift, the Beatles, Prince, BTS..they were all in positions to not give up their copyrights/masters in the first place.

Sometimes labels agree to give you some of the copyrights but they keep the masters. Meaning the recorded products. Meaning they can re-release as many versions as they want, use it on movies, commercials, etc.

———————-

Their video for “Film Out” only got less than 30 mil views. Kinda of a bummer from over “100 million views” they apparently always get within one day

http://instagr.am/p/CNK7VAQJ_Vh/
 






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Bt$ have gotten really boring, but unfortunately it seems like Pedo Bang has now become unstoppable after buying up Scooter Brauns company. It doesnt matter how many failed kpop groups they pump out, success and money is granted now. Scooter Braun is now also one billion usd richer , granting him a billionaire status that opens new doors. He is also a close friend of another notorious pedo homo music mogul -David Geffen. The whole thing just shows how all these media moguls are connected and working towards the same goals and agendas, hence why you the the same themes, symbols and agendas all over the place. Another point is how the rich 1% always seem to be getting richer based the on ridiculous premises of stock price, percieved values and public manipulation. Just like how to richest billionaires such as Bezo$ and EloN Mu$k have become hundreds of billions of dollars richer in one year, while the world is in shambles because of covid. These things don’t benefit the economy or general public in the long term, just the owners.

Speaking of agendas,
Lately it seems that the feminization of men and gender blurring agenda has really become stronger and much more visible. I recerntly saw that the New England Journal of Medicine (perhaps the most respected medical journal in the world) published an opinion about how gender should not be assigned on birth certificates! I could nor believe my eyes. It’s complete madness and is now trying to infiltrate the scientific communtity. Ask any sane person in the medical or science community.

They are not trying to make women stronger, in fact quite the opposite, women are continuosly reduced to whores and sex objects in the media. It seems that they have similar plans for boys and young men. It is very obvious with the new generation of influencers including Tik Tokers, social media personalities and ”artists” like Lil Na$ XX. James Charles is a great example. Ladyboy. Caught sexting 15 yo boys every week and grosses every one out. Unfortunately he seems to have full ammunition from the media bosses.
Bts have nothing to offer anymore, why they didn't just simply split up ..
 






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HAHAHAHA, this isn't the first time I am seeing something similar. But seriously, pictures on social media are so good, why paying that much. What's the reason? does it come with Jungkook cleaning the house for one month?
2000 $....my oh my.

I've seen that clip, to me it looked like Taehyung went to Jungkook to show him his biceps, after he did some pushups on the floor. He pushed his chest into Jungkook's hand and Jungkook agreed that he had muscles, or something like this.
 






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HAHAHAHA, this isn't the first time I am seeing something similar. But seriously, pictures on social media are so good, why paying that much. What's the reason? does it come with Jungkook cleaning the house for one month?
2000 $....my oh my.

I've seen that clip, to me it looked like Taehyung went to Jungkook to show him his biceps, after he did some pushups on the floor. He pushed his chest into Jungkook's hand and Jungkook agreed that he had muscles, or something like this.
U right, just print the photo of jk from internet its easier.
Just search: a growman and his hairclip
Yap tae want to show his muscular chest, but look jk's face, hahahah
 






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HAHAHAHA, this isn't the first time I am seeing something similar. But seriously, pictures on social media are so good, why paying that much. What's the reason? does it come with Jungkook cleaning the house for one month?
2000 $....my oh my.

I've seen that clip, to me it looked like Taehyung went to Jungkook to show him his biceps, after he did some pushups on the floor. He pushed his chest into Jungkook's hand and Jungkook agreed that he had muscles, or something like this.
Jungkook looks pissed off ..
 






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