Empowering women proven to lower fertility/birth rates in countries. (NO MORE ANIME!)

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No-- because I agree with that. Soo.. what could it be.. ?


You understand, I hope, that it doesn't sound like you do-- not with this...

A woman? One hitter quitter.


A cursory glance at my history will show that I *get* what's going on here.

The disintegration of the family is on the top of the list for those in power, because it is the biggest threat to their authority-- it had to go. With families, people have no need for government aid.. they take care of themselves. A [government] dependent population, on the other hand, is much easier to manipulate.

The error is the belief that *women* are to blame for the state of things-- they are not. When the movement began, women in the 20th century did not even have the right to retain the credit built through years of home ownership, if the hubs up and left them. It has since been perverted and exploited, and now, women are expected to have kids and a 'career path' ... and maintain both, flawlessly. What a crock. But I digress.

The Division of the sexes, engineered by outside forces, has been successful-- both parties blame the other, rather than the party responsible. It was, as I've mentioned before, ingenious.

That a man could 'impregnate 5 women in one night ' has nothing whatsoever to do with strong families... quite the opposite, really. That a woman can run a business as well as a man (and often, better) is also irrelevant.

Bottom line is that (credit @DesertRose ) women should, without question, have
"... the potential to feed herself and not be at the mercy of anyone or events." The oppressive Propaganda that tells women they are *less than* if they choose to have a family instead of pursuing a Career is the problem.
Well in my post I didnt blame women. I didnt say a man being able to impregnate 5 women in one night created or had anything to do with strong families. Didnt mention anything about who could run a business better either. You're arguing against things I didnt mention or bring up so I dont know what to tell you there. As far as what I did say, its in regards to man having the ABILITY (not responsibility) to impregnate 5 women at once, as to why theres a difference in expectations when it comes to sex and the genders. Women are limited to creating one family at a time while man can (not always SHOULD) create multiple. Thats just biology thats ingrained in the sexes.

Just because the feminist movement was started at a time when women did need some help, doesnt mean there werent ulterior motives for the movement. And those motives are showing today where now people saying they can be everything from a man stating he's a woman to a man stating he's a dog (i.e Aleister Crowley- do what thou wilt). And that sounds like disorder or chaos. And who says order out of chaos again? So luciferians/do what thou wilt, LGBT/feminism attacking genders/gender roles, order out of chaos and people still dont see whats going on with these movements and why the mainstream is promoting them?
 





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Well in my post I didnt blame women. I didnt say a man being able to impregnate 5 women in one night created or had anything to do with strong families. Didnt mention anything about who could run a business better either. You're arguing against things I didnt mention or bring up so I dont know what to tell you there. As far as what I did say, its in regards to man having the ABILITY (not responsibility) to impregnate 5 women at once, as to why theres a difference in expectations when it comes to sex and the genders. Women are limited to creating one family at a time while man can (not always SHOULD) create multiple. Thats just biology thats ingrained in the sexes.

Just because the feminist movement was started at a time when women did need some help, doesnt mean there werent ulterior motives for the movement. And those motives are showing today where now people saying they can be everything from a man stating he's a woman to a man stating he's a dog (i.e Aleister Crowley- do what thou wilt). And that sounds like disorder or chaos. And who says order out of chaos again? So luciferians/do what thou wilt, LGBT/feminism attacking genders/gender roles, order out of chaos and people still dont see whats going on with these movements and why the mainstream is promoting them?
Yes it is Luciferians behind "women's liberation" and those who back it are foot soldiers of the Luciferian agenda.
 





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You'll understand why I said No More Anime once you've finished reading this post.

Any country that allows women to pursue education or careers, is dooming their nation to lower in fertility/birth rates. When overpopulation was the big scare, Feminism was praised for lowering fertility/birth rates or slow growth population. You can simply do a quick google search "Feminism and Overpopulation" even add in "Global Warming", you will get this answer of lowering population/low F/BR.

Japan's deputy PM blames women for nation's falling population
Official Apologizes After Blaming Childless People for Japan’s Shrinking Population

What's funny about this PM speaking out on this issue. He immediately had to apologize for this statement within 24hrs. THE SAME DAY!
The thing is, he's not wrong. Yet, they didn't make him apologize when he said to old people "Hurry up and die.". You know how some people always like to blame Jews for everything and you can't criticize them? I guess you can't say anything bad about women either. Moving on.

Slowdown in African fertility rate linked to disruption of girls' education

This one will be quick. A quick quote from the beginning of the article.



But wait, there's more!

Addressing Japan's demographic problems

Obviously the main concern facing Japan is lower F./BRs. Japan are not having enough children to replace the current population, along side the United States, and other European Countries.



Which by the way, are all below 2. 2 being what's needed to replace the current population,. Here's the best part. THEY LIE RIGHT TO YOUR FACE! This is Japanese media, lying to their Japanese audience. Ladies and gentlemen, the Japan Times.


IT GETS WORSE!

NOOO!!!

In case you forgot a few lines above. Telling women to pursue education and careers, lowers fertility/birth rates. The Japan Times, is advocating to do this exact thing. Which has already proven to not work in increasing fertility/birth rates. I am laughing so hard right now and my abs hurt trying to type this out because it's not just Japan but it's also us doing the same thing in the United States and European countries. The Japanese PM called it. The reason why the Japanese are dying, is because the women aren't having babies. Within the same day, he was forced to apologize!

Because Japan refuses to take women's rights away, we will no longer have Anime in the future. Because the Japanese will go extinct. I hope you're proud of yourselves! To be fair though, it's our fault, (The United States) because we forced Japan to give women right's as a part of Japan's surrender.

The End.
1. Why is the ending of Anime in Japan such a bad thing anyway?
It actually might help reverse the population decline - less young men and women living in a crazy fantasy world, having to beat boredom might *shock horror* cause them to seek the opposite sex in real life.

2. You made no mention of the unnaturally long work hours Japanese people are forced to work. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/jap...-hours-in-the-world-its-trying-to-change.html

Who is going to be looking for romance (and eventual children) when even getting enough sleep is a challenge?!

Sleep is wanted more than sex. Get sleep hours normal, get relaxation hours normal, get social life normal and THEN things might start to improve.

Feminism cannot be blamed for sleep deprivation. Sorry.
 





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What region or country are you from? I can almost guarantee you're from a country that has low fertility.
You are correct. We have 500 years left before dying out lol. But thats not why i answered the way i did. Pragmatism shouldn't be deciding factor when relationships are concerned. it's a recipe for disaster, also incredibly cynical.
 





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Disappointment like @KoncreteMind or embarrassment like @Hero123 .They always parrot the same thing, men are stronger blah blah, men can sleep around blah blah and how men are smarter. They also bring up the argument how men are supposed to be superior and are supposed to be the one providing protection and resources like money.

The sad part of this argument is that smart and rich men whether its people like Bill Gates or Elon Musk or whether its people of the past, great minds like Einstein, Paul Ehlrich or its just normal everyday married men with children. Those men would find you cucks and others like you, absolutely pathetic, despicable and an all around trash.

Those men have and would always support women rights and have even spoken up against not giving women or anyone their rights.That is the absolute proof that those people are men and thus mature.
Most famous scientists didn't make discoveries alone. Charles Babbage, the FATHER of computers had Ada Lovence, the first programmer who lay down the foundation for computing in general.
This pattern continues from the discovery of various diseases and medicines to even landing on the moon and will continue to the end of times.

Nobody wants to hear a childless virgin desperate for a fuck preach about "fertility rates".

Nobody wants to hear a guy talk about how men are "smarter" than women because "biology". SPOILER ALERT: it is the other way around biologically ;). We just don't count it because on a day-to-day basis it doesn't matter because all individuals are different. And how smart are you anyway, can you be a proof for this experiment? Do you have any accomplishment to your name? Someone who debates that the earth is flat, is talking about men being smart lmao fking retards.

And NOBODY wants to hear about how men provide resources and wealth to women from two guys who don't make any. Not that i mind you preaching that, I just don't want to take business and economic advise from someone whose yearly income and "careers" are laughable.

Unless you are Einstein, Stephen Hawkings or Elon Musk, why are you bragging about their accomplishments? Are you related to them? Are you in a field/career that is related to them? Are you smart like them or do you make money like them? Do you even have the looks to be some fuckboy in some shady district? lmao
Accomplished men do not brag about their accomplishments because they are looking for even better, they do not talk about taking away women rights and they certainly don't preach about it forums.

Maybe if you idiots weren't cucking yourself over with your dumb theories and misogynistic BS, you too could've had lovers and maybe children.
And who knows, maybe proper education and a career and probably wealth. But most of all, happiness.

And with this I will not be replying to this thread anymore, so do not bother. Excuse me while I go study for my career as I enjoy some coffee with the man I like ;)

P.s.: Even Thunderian is married. Like if I was a man who was preaching about marriage and children but had none of those but i realized someone like thunderian did, that is where i might as well end my life. You pitiful creatures.
 





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Disappointment like @KoncreteMind or embarrassment like @Hero123 .They always parrot the same thing, men are stronger blah blah, men can sleep around blah blah and how men are smarter. They also bring up the argument how men are supposed to be superior and are supposed to be the one providing protection and resources like money.



The sad part of this argument is that smart and rich men whether its people like Bill Gates or Elon Musk or whether its people of the past, great minds like Einstein, Paul Ehlrich or its just normal everyday married men with children. Those men would find you cucks and others like you, absolutely pathetic, despicable and an all around trash.
I don’t care what men think of me. Especially luciferian men like the ones you named. In this luciferian global society, if you’re a man and married, you’re most likely the cuck or simp as they say around my way...
Those men have and would always support women rights and have even spoken up against not giving women or anyone their rights.That is the absolute proof that those people are men and thus mature.
Most famous scientists didn't make discoveries alone. Charles Babbage, the FATHER of computers had Ada Lovence, the first programmer who lay down the foundation for computing in general.
Oh okay. Men that think like you are smart, mature, and upstanding. Those that don’t are cucks stupid virgins etc... all you have to offer is emotions and name calling

Nobody wants to hear a childless virgin desperate for a fuck preach about "fertility rates".
With a lot of these women out here being hoes under the guise of sexual freedom I don’t have to be desperate for sex. Must be directed at hero...

Nobody wants to hear a guy talk about how men are "smarter" than women because "biology". SPOILER ALERT: it is the other way around biologically ;). We just don't count it because on a day-to-day basis it doesn't matter because all individuals are different. And how smart are you anyway, can you be a proof for this experiment? Do you have any accomplishment to your name? Someone who debates that the earth is flat, is talking about men being smart lmao fking retards.

And NOBODY wants to hear about how men provide resources and wealth to women from two guys who don't make any. Not that i mind you preaching that, I just don't want to take business and economic advise from someone whose yearly income and "careers" are laughable.

Unless you are Einstein, Stephen Hawkings or Elon Musk, why are you bragging about their accomplishments? Are you related to them? Are you in a field/career that is related to them? Are you smart like them or do you make money like them? Do you even have the looks to be some fuckboy in some shady district? lmao
Accomplished men do not brag about their accomplishments because they are looking for even better, they do not talk about taking away women rights and they certainly don't preach about it forums.

Maybe if you idiots weren't cucking yourself over with your dumb theories and misogynistic BS, you too could've had lovers and maybe children.
And who knows, maybe proper education and a career and probably wealth. But most of all, happiness.

And with this I will not be replying to this thread anymore, so do not bother. Excuse me while I go study for my career as I enjoy some coffee with the man I like ;)

P.s.: Even Thunderian is married. Like if I was a man who was preaching about marriage and children but had none of those but i realized someone like thunderian did, that is where i might as well end my life. You pitiful creatures.
Yea most of this emotional dribble must been directed to hero because none of it applies to me besides the flat earth stuff which also applies to @elsbet too. Just to be clear, you’re insulting her intelligence since she shares the same position I do on the earth?

It’s not about hating women or wanting rights taken away(something I certainly havent suggested). It’s about not supporting where the luciferians (that allegedly run this society according to this website) are taking society to..
 





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Oh okay. Men that think like you are smart, mature, and upstanding. Those that don’t are cucks stupid virgins etc... all you have to offer is emotions and name calling
It's facts, reason, pretty much all of human history and every major religion on earth versus insults. The feminist side has to rely on insults because God, reason and facts are on the other side.
 





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As a woman I must say the feminist metoo agenda annoys my soul. A woman’s right is everyone’s responsibility. Same goes for a man. His rights are everyone’s responsibility.

We are ONE. We all have mothers, and fathers, sons, and daughters, sisters, and brothers....who deserve fair treatment. It requires the support of one another. There should be no me against you. We are in this together. That’s unity.

When it come to men & women we do however have different gender roles that work in unison. That not only create balance but was created in balance. Imo that’s the goal. Not to say men should do this & women should do this. Just a basic guideline for a successful way of life or family life according to nature.

These roles may have to be tweeked from time to time, considering the times, but still balance is key. The woman may have to work, and dad may have to stay at home, but you still have that balance.

In regard to gender roles ( separate from rights) does not mean a man gets a pass for engaging in irresponsible behaviors. Well it does in this society, but that does not make it righteous. They are to be held to the same standards. You can’t require a virgin when you yourself have been all over town. You should have standards for yourself and health as well.

Even if one decides to live a polygamist lifestyle there is still order, structure, and balanced required to make it work.

Balance is according to nature or as close as you can be considering the times.
 





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As a woman I must say the feminist metoo agenda annoys my soul. A woman’s right is everyone’s responsibility. Same goes for a man. His rights are everyone’s responsibility.

We are ONE. We all have mothers, fathers, sons, & daughters, sisters, and brothers....who deserve fair treatment. It requires the support of one another. There should be no me against you. We are in this together. That’s unity.

When it come to men & women we do however have different gender roles that work in unison. That not only creates balance but was created in balance. Imo that’s the goal. Not to say men should do this & women should do this. Just a basic guideline for a successful way of life or family life according to nature.

These roles may have to be tweeked from time to time, considering the times, but still balance is key. The woman may have to work, and dad may have to stay at home. However you still have balance.

In regard to gender roles ( separate from rights) does not mean a man gets pass for engaging in irresponsible behaviors. Well it does in this society, but that does not make it righteous. They are to be held to the same standards. You can’t require a virgin when you yourself have been all over town. You should have standards for yourself and health as well.

Even if one decides to live a polygamist lifestyle there is still order, structure, and balanced required to make it work.

Balance is according to nature or as close as you can be considering the times.
I agree with something like 99% of this.

but I do think virginity in women is more important than in men. A woman who has been with a ton of dudes... she's not marriage material- not generally. I mean if she changed and she really did change.... I guess it's possible. But usually she's still gonna be the same. Whereas a woman can marry a guy who's been with a bunch of women and it can work.

WOMEN SHOULD SAVE THEIR VIRGINITY FOR MARRIAGE

Happy Wife, Happy Life
Studies have shown that the more sexual partners a woman has had, the less likely she is to describe her marriage as happy. Shocker, right? It’s like women were designed to be property.


All kidding aside, there is a reason a woman’s virginity has been a value in almost every culture ever. Not only was her father trying to make her more appealing for the suitors, but he knew that she would be able to enjoy the marriage more herself. There’s a reason the #NoHymenNoDiamond on Twitter has resonated.

http://www.returnofkings.com/46543/women-should-save-their-virginity-for-marriage

(the whole article goes into more detail)
 





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I agree with something like 99% of this.

but I do think virginity in women is more important than in men. A woman who has been with a ton of dudes... she's not marriage material
Here why I agree and don’t agree. I agree because it’s a fact that “ a woman’s virginity is important”. I don’t agree because that’s a fact on its own.

NOT in regard to men. NOT to be compared. That’s just how it should be for a woman PERIOD. And for you to say she’s not marriage material I only agree if the person judging is perfect and hold himself to the highest standards.
 





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You are agreeing or atleast supporting someone’s argument who has flat out said that women’s rights should be taken away by force. Do you not see a problem?

And for the record strong men typically appreciate a strong woman. They aren’t afraid of it or threatened by it. I don’t know what kind of man wants a woman who’s nothing more than a robot or a slave, it’s disturbing
 





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Here why I agree and don’t agree. I agree because that’s a fact. I don’t agree because that’s a fact on its own.

NOT in regard to men. NOT to be compared. That’s just how it should be for a woman PERIOD. And for you to say she’s not marriage material I only agree if the person judging is perfect and hold himself to the highest standards.
The issue is not necessarily in itself that the woman has been with other men. On an instinctive level, men and women are different here. One of the posts here mocked men for being virgins. Do men mock virginity in women?

Male virginity and female virginity are not the same. Suppose a woman in whatever day Genghis Khan lives...... she sees Genghis Khan and this guy has three wives with him. Or she sees Snoop Dogg in a video and he's surrounded by women in some sensual-looking video.

Women are turned on by that stuff.

But if you see a woman with three husbands.... as a guy you would be running in the other direction. I'm not saying women want their men to have been with other women..... but it doesn't work the exact same way.

On a raw instinctive level, a man seeing a woman with three husbands and a woman seeing Genghis Khan with three wives- the reaction is different.

On a raw, instinctive level, men don't want women who have been with a ton of dudes.

But it's not just that in itself, necessarily.... men are given that instinct by God...... built into us...... that instinctive "slut-shaming" instinct...... is there for a reason.....

if the man overcomes his own innate dissatisfaction with the woman's history- what's going to happen to that marriage? What's going to happen to his kids?

The man is better off marrying a virgin. Even if you brush aside any dislike- it's about the marriage being more likely to be successful and thus a better future for the kids.

Forget the man and forget the woman. What's in the interest of the kids, of the next generation? The interest of the kids is that the father marries a virgin. It's not "judging" just for "judging"- it's about making a practical decision that will lead to the best outcome for future generations and the marriage.

However, I'm not saying women who aren't virgins should lose hope. They should just be determined to prove nay-sayers wrong and make marriage work (assuming they're wanting to get married or married) and hopefully they wait until marriage moving forward.

And both sexes should wait until marriage.
 





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The only reason why womans virginity was valued because it can be checked. It's a thing. While mans isn't. To assume that every worn out brothel resident is worthy of chaste girl... Wow just wow...
 





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The issue is not necessarily in itself that the woman has been with other men. On an instinctive level, men and women are different here. One of the posts here mocked men for being virgins. Do men mock virginity in women?

Male virginity and female virginity are not the same. Suppose a woman in whatever day Genghis Khan lives...... she sees Genghis Khan and this guy has three wives with him. Or she sees Snoop Dogg in a video and he's surrounded by women in some sensual-looking video.

Women are turned on by that stuff.

But if you see a woman with three husbands.... as a guy you would be running in the other direction. I'm not saying women want their men to have been with other women..... but it doesn't work the exact same way.

On a raw instinctive level, a man seeing a woman with three husbands and a woman seeing Genghis Khan with three wives- the reaction is different.

On a raw, instinctive level, men don't want women who have been with a ton of dudes.

But it's not just that in itself, necessarily.... men are given that instinct by God...... built into us...... that instinctive "slut-shaming" instinct...... is there for a reason.....

if the man overcomes his own innate dissatisfaction with the woman's history- what's going to happen to that marriage? What's going to happen to his kids?

The man is better off marrying a virgin. Even if you brush aside any dislike- it's about the marriage being more likely to be successful and thus a better future for the kids.

Forget the man and forget the woman. What's in the interest of the kids, of the next generation? The interest of the kids is that the father marries a virgin. It's not "judging" just for "judging"- it's about making a practical decision that will lead to the best outcome for future generations and the marriage.

However, I'm not saying women who aren't virgins should lose hope. They should just be determined to prove nay-sayers wrong and make marriage work (assuming they're wanting to get married or married) and hopefully they wait until marriage moving forward.

And both sexes should wait until marriage.

I think you are speaking for too many groups of people. Nothing about Snoop Dog or that type of lifestyle turns me on. Your also assuming men are all looking for the same thing in a woman. Everyone has their preference and their reasoning that is unique to their situation or needs. That need or connection isn’t always sexual.

Besides you can’t assume what men & women want or don’t want because from what I can see everyone is sleeping with everyone and NO ONE ( male or female) seem to have a problem with that. Standards are out the window on BOTH sides for the most part. I see no men out here acting holier than thou. Everyone just out here being trashy with no regard for self. Men don’t care who you are with or who you slept with. They just wanna know if they can hit. LOL.

~ (disclaimer) Not everyone is like this I know but for the most part let’s be honest...
 





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The only reason why womans virginity was valued because it can be checked. It's a thing. While mans isn't. To assume that every worn out brothel resident is worthy of chaste girl... Wow just wow...
Inheritance rights. We have paternity tests now so this is no longer relevant.
 





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I think you are speaking for too many groups of people. Nothing about Snoop Dog or that type of lifestyle turns me on. Your also assuming men are all looking for the same thing in a woman. Everyone has their preference and their reasoning that is unique to their situation or needs. That need or connection isn’t always sexual.

Besides you can’t assume what men & women want or don’t want because from what I can see everyone is sleeping with everyone and NO ONE ( male or female) seem to have a problem with that. Standards are out the window on BOTH sides for the most part. I see no men out here acting holier than thou. Everyone just out here being trashy with no regard for self. Men don’t care who you are with or who you slept with. They just wanna know if they can hit. LOL.

~ (disclaimer) Not everyone is like this I know but for the most part let’s be honest...
It's not holier than thou to believe people should wait for marriage. It's what every major religion on earth teaches. It's not a sin to believe in waiting until marriage. I get that feminism wants to totally eliminate waiting until marriage but.... that's just more evidence that feminism is Satanic.

Yes, I get that with a lot of dudes "They just wanna know if they can hit". I'm talking about waiting for marriage.

Also, how people are acting is not their inner nature. People are not in accordance with nature. When babies are born, they are perfectly in touch with their inner nature. As children, they are closer to inner nature. As adults, many are warped.

Men and women have an inner nature. You might see women or men trying to change their gender of doing all types of unnatural things or doing things which are sinful..... but that's not their inner nature.

And you might not be into Snoop Dogg specifically but how women feel about men having been with other women is not the same as how men feel about women having been with other men. Yes, men will "wanna know if they can hit" with women who have been with a ton of other dudes...... but unless they have cuck tendencies, that's not what they're looking for as in a wife....... a lot of those dudes don't even respect those women or care about them and just want to use them to commit a sin..... I'm talking about marriage, not just wanting to use a woman for........ physical pleasure. Those are completely different. If you were a guy, you would know exactly what I mean (unless you were one of these effeminate cuck dudes). If you're a guy.... "woman I want to smash" and "woman I want to marry and spend the rest of my life with" are two completely different categories in your mind.

And yes, ALL MEN ARE THE SAME. All men are the same and all women are the same. On an outer level, they're different. But on a deeper, innate level all men are the same and all women are the same. Men are not "looking for different things". Every man has the same biology as any of us and every guy is acting off the same biological instincts.
 





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I don’t care what men think of me. Especially luciferian men like the ones you named. In this luciferian global society, if you’re a man and married, you’re most likely the cuck or simp as they say around my way...


Oh okay. Men that think like you are smart, mature, and upstanding. Those that don’t are cucks stupid virgins etc... all you have to offer is emotions and name calling



With a lot of these women out here being hoes under the guise of sexual freedom I don’t have to be desperate for sex. Must be directed at hero...



Yea most of this emotional dribble must been directed to hero because none of it applies to me besides the flat earth stuff which also applies to @elsbet too. Just to be clear, you’re insulting her intelligence since she shares the same position I do on the earth?

It’s not about hating women or wanting rights taken away(something I certainly havent suggested). It’s about not supporting where the luciferians (that allegedly run this society according to this website) are taking society to..
What was the purpose of the comment, then-- ?

The five a night vs "one hitter quitter "

Ugh its in my auto-text now .. dammit
 





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I think the lower birth-rates and fertility figures doesn't have as much to do with women specifically as it does with the alleviation of struggle, challenge and adversity as a societal rule.
Obviously the alleviation or elimination of the assorted sufferings of its populace is a laudable goal for any society, and should probably be the main aim of any government; to see to it its citizens suffer as little as possible.
There is, however, a fundamental mammalian instinct ingrained in near every human being to struggle against their own suffering. Struggling against one's own suffering is arguably the primary motivator for all human beings- combating ones own suffering one of if not THE core drive in near every creature, let alone every person.

There was a scientist in the 1960's by the name of John B Calhoun who ran a really interesting experiment. A man who studied animal behaviors and matters of population, he decided to design a massive 'Mouse Utopia', a perfect home for mice where they were provided with all the food, bedding, water, space, etc. that they could ever need. Initially the mice did as well as one might expect in this environment, breeding prolifically, having a gay old mousey time of it, but LONG before the mice started reaching the population-limit of the habitat, which was quite considerable, things started to go a little strange. Suddenly the breeding rates started dropping, and dropping, until they stopped outright. Mice developed strange behaviors, refusing to spread out in the colony, clustering together. Some grew listless and lethargic, some developed obsessive ticks, some became exceedingly violent and went cannibal in spite of the abundance of food, but universally they stopped breeding. Eventually and repeatedly with every attempt of the experiment the colonies would utterly collapse, turning the mouse utopia into a mouse graveyard.

I think what we see happening in the more affluent, egalitarian, dare I say 'utopian' societies of today is similar to what happened in the Mouse Utopias. Obviously we're not mice, but we're still mammals with mammalian instincts, and just like with the mice if we remove most sources of adversity and struggle from our lives, our instincts and primary motivators become confused, and we don't have the same responses to things. Essentially, because life is naturally hard, we like most creatures are wired to thrive and multiply when challenging its difficulties. When those difficulties dwindle, it's perversely more difficult to thrive and multiply.

That's my take on it, anyway.