Elsa and Anna... What is going on here?

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Excuse me... but this video... another "bath time" video but with Elsa and Anna "baby sitting"... nothing major here... until THIS PART... One baby says to the other "shhhhhhh"... This video is not the same... it is obviously made by an adult woman playing all audio parts. You can watch the whole thing but the messed up part doesn't come until the 10:40 mark.
 





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Would you classify this as part of the Elsegate phenomenon?
I've actually never heard of Elsagate. I was watching a Sia video "The Greatest", which is about hunting and killing kids and for SOME reason that Elsa and Anna video popped up as a relevant video. I thought that was very strange. So... I checked it out and lo and behold the videos skeeved me out. I posted it on FB, too, and basically most the comments were that I'm reaching. But one guy posted an article in response to me wondering why comments were disabled. There is a video linked in the article that I found VERY interesting.


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...w6Ee_fszaQFrfE9MIdMWSz4eLaQgde_SJRzOf0RljcRdI
 





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Man, you guys are braver than me to watch any amounts of these nasty, creepy vids. I wouldn't be able to stomach it.
The problem is that I didn't realize how creepy it was, previously. Take the Sia video, for instance. Just a music video that was really "weird" and "edgy". I've come to the conclusion that my rational constantly took things that were "strange" and dismissed them. Now that I know what I'm seeing, I can never not see it again. It's easy to recognize it for what it is most of the time now. The first Elsa ones I posted above are strange to me, but I did quickly look into elsagate overviews and I don't even WANT to try to watch any of those videos. I think we are conditioned to not take note of heinous things and the overload of creep when it comes down to those elsagate videos being introduced to children is terrifying.
 





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I'm going to take your word for it, OP. I can not watch even one minute based on the thread. I won't say what I think should happen to the one eyes making these videos.
 





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I'm going to take your word for it, OP. I can not watch even one minute based on the thread. I won't say what I think should happen to the one eyes making these videos.
Agreed. I cannot "unsee" things. Bad stuff ends up staying me. To quote Book from the show Firefly, "there is a special place..." for people that do such vile things and lure others to the flame.
 





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I've actually never heard of Elsagate. I was watching a Sia video "The Greatest", which is about hunting and killing kids and for SOME reason that Elsa and Anna video popped up as a relevant video. I thought that was very strange. So... I checked it out and lo and behold the videos skeeved me out. I posted it on FB, too, and basically most the comments were that I'm reaching. But one guy posted an article in response to me wondering why comments were disabled. There is a video linked in the article that I found VERY interesting.


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...w6Ee_fszaQFrfE9MIdMWSz4eLaQgde_SJRzOf0RljcRdI
Check about the 3rd/4th post to get filled in. It aint nathan nice Big Spader, let me assure you of that. But it is still important to know and remain aware & vigilant.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/childrens-crisis-lets-try-this-again.5101/
 





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Yeah, I agree with not even watching that.

And I thought the big deal with Elsa was that she was possibly going to be gay in Frozen 2.
 





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Actually, showing dolls bathing together as long as they have the kid sibling role isn't really bad, but if they showed them as adults, that's where the problem lies. I've heard of pizza (symbolic, secret meaning) relating to p***phile, sexual abuse type stuff. Ex, pizza gate. Yes, at some point I hear they will have Elsa have a girlfriend and I believe her name is Samantha. Yep, they're pushing the lgbtq thing into kids movies. Not only that, but I heard Youtube is now for kid friendly content only, so if you post something that's not kid friendly, they will take it off.

But guess what they WON'T take off?
These videos, showing kids lgbtq stuff, telling them it's okay to kiss the same gender, or become the same gender (which is impossible), stuff like this. Of course. I cannot wait to see how even more extreme it'll be in the next 2 years.
 





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Actually, showing dolls bathing together as long as they have the kid sibling role isn't really bad, but if they showed them as adults, that's where the problem lies. I've heard of pizza (symbolic, secret meaning) relating to p***phile, sexual abuse type stuff. Ex, pizza gate. Yes, at some point I hear they will have Elsa have a girlfriend and I believe her name is Samantha. Yep, they're pushing the lgbtq thing into kids movies. Not only that, but I heard Youtube is now for kid friendly content only, so if you post something that's not kid friendly, they will take it off.

But guess what they WON'T take off?
These videos, showing kids lgbtq stuff, telling them it's okay to kiss the same gender, or become the same gender (which is impossible), stuff like this. Of course. I cannot wait to see how even more extreme it'll be in the next 2 years.
When I posted this I didn't realize there was such a thing as Elsagate… and I just thought it was creepy (and saw some symbolism). And I really thought it was odd that on most of the videos the comments were turned off. When Tempest let me in on the really bad videos... I was pretty much in shock. Thinking back now, these types of videos could just be gateways that lead to the more sinister ones if left on autoplay.

I also think you're right... I'm pretty open minded but I think that the lgbtq movement has been infiltrated and derailed. I have a teen who says he's bisexual. Which is fine by me, but I'm worried that he's only saying that to try to fit in because there are so many "bisexual" kids in school. I know him well, and I feel his reasoning is 80% peer pressure, 20% curiosity. I'm not against the progressive movement, but honestly think that people are not even thinking anymore, just being swept along by the momentum. I've pulled back.
 





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When I posted this I didn't realize there was such a thing as Elsagate… and I just thought it was creepy (and saw some symbolism). And I really thought it was odd that on most of the videos the comments were turned off. When Tempest let me in on the really bad videos... I was pretty much in shock. Thinking back now, these types of videos could just be gateways that lead to the more sinister ones if left on autoplay.

I also think you're right... I'm pretty open minded but I think that the lgbtq movement has been infiltrated and derailed. I have a teen who says he's bisexual. Which is fine by me, but I'm worried that he's only saying that to try to fit in because there are so many "bisexual" kids in school. I know him well, and I feel his reasoning is 80% peer pressure, 20% curiosity. I'm not against the progressive movement, but honestly think that people are not even thinking anymore, just being swept along by the momentum. I've pulled back.
That's good you've pulled back. (Ah, I feel so weird saying that because it's like I'm rewarding you in words but you're an adult and I'm 15 years old. Ahhh, you already know you're intelligent. You don't need a mere teenager to tell you that :>) but anyways, I personally think your son is feeling confused.

With the lgbtq thing going on, many people feel as though they need to be apart of it because people are saying it's love to love the same gender, it's love to you if you choose to change your gender (My answer: You can't though. You can get surgery, and behave like the opposite gender and that's as far as you're going to get. You can't change what God made immortal)

Moving on, attempting to behave like the opposite gender or even thinking it's possible to change into the opposite gender is what in fact causes confusion. Confusion because it's wrong, and people are thinking, "Wait, this is love. I love myself, so I can do this...right?" Wrong. They're also pushing the "love yourself" agenda, it's heard in many music videos especially.

They're pushing that and the lgbtq agenda so hard, that most things you see whether it be on television, a simple comic book, a show, a cartoon, even dolls, whatever it is, they're taking away Gods message for woman and man to get together and replacing it with this instead just like they took away the true meaning of the rainbow and instead changed the definition and added it to their agenda. Many words have been changed. Previous generations had words meaning one thing, now with it being the end times, it means a whole different thing and the fact they're lying to you about it is definitely the main thing that causes deception and confusion.

I can't suggest you tell your son this, only God can and that will be a private thing between you guys. I don't know the time it needs to be once he knows, this is why I'm saying this. I don't know if you're a Christian or not, but I hope you're able to pray about it.

I'm just thankful God gave me wisdom and a great level of maturity at this age and before, I love telling people the good news. God bless!
 





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That's good you've pulled back. (Ah, I feel so weird saying that because it's like I'm rewarding you in words but you're an adult and I'm 15 years old. Ahhh, you already know you're intelligent. You don't need a mere teenager to tell you that :>) but anyways, I personally think your son is feeling confused.

With the lgbtq thing going on, many people feel as though they need to be apart of it because people are saying it's love to love the same gender, it's love to you if you choose to change your gender (My answer: You can't though. You can get surgery, and behave like the opposite gender and that's as far as you're going to get. You can't change what God made immortal)

Moving on, attempting to behave like the opposite gender or even thinking it's possible to change into the opposite gender is what in fact causes confusion. Confusion because it's wrong, and people are thinking, "Wait, this is love. I love myself, so I can do this...right?" Wrong. They're also pushing the "love yourself" agenda, it's heard in many music videos especially.

They're pushing that and the lgbtq agenda so hard, that most things you see whether it be on television, a simple comic book, a show, a cartoon, even dolls, whatever it is, they're taking away Gods message for woman and man to get together and replacing it with this instead just like they took away the true meaning of the rainbow and instead changed the definition and added it to their agenda. Many words have been changed. Previous generations had words meaning one thing, now with it being the end times, it means a whole different thing and the fact they're lying to you about it is definitely the main thing that causes deception and confusion.

I can't suggest you tell your son this, only God can and that will be a private thing between you guys. I don't know the time it needs to be once he knows, this is why I'm saying this. I don't know if you're a Christian or not, but I hope you're able to pray about it.

I'm just thankful God gave me wisdom and a great level of maturity at this age and before, I love telling people the good news. God bless!
You are very eloquent for 15 years! I appreciate your well thought out response. Bless you, too.