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This world belongs to the aristocratic elite who with the help of renegade angels divided the common people into religious and ideological factions who fight each other. If ever the common people united and rounded up the aristocrats in every nation and sent them to well i dunno the South Pole... there would be instant peace in the world. There is a chain of command folks... and below the renegade angels are the aristocrats who are above all people.
 

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Coddled? We face dangers to our lives, attacks not only on our identity, our beliefs but also our LIVES. We "lot" have faced more than you all ever will so stop please. Our kids are being murdered, tortured and butchered across the planet, with kids as young as 3 seeing bombing every other day, losing their loved ones. Yet those kids are stronger in their beliefs than probably any of us here.
But your sensitive babies are getting spiritually attacked which more often than not is other kids going "man religion is stupid" or things along that line. So tragic.
You have support from your family and culture that vast majority of alleged Christian families do not have, because they are usually more influenced by the world than by faith.

I am not referring to attacks via outsiders. I have no Christians in my family, I doubt very much if you Muslims on this forum have no Muslims in yours.
 
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The "Christians" themselves don't believe in Christianity.

The vast majority of Christians talk Christianity but they don't live it. That shows you they themselves don't believe in what they claim to believe.

You can't even tell them apart from non-Christians.

A sex scandal for a Christian preacher is cocaine and hookers. A sex scandal for a Muslim preacher is a guy texting a shirtless pic.

We can't blame Communists, Freemasons, the Illuminati or any conspiracy for the bar being so much lower for Christians.

Muslims are raising the bar, really putting their beliefs into practice. These are people who in many cases would be willing to die for their beliefs.

Christians generally will sell out their beliefs in a heartbeat. Most of them already have and they don't care because they think believing Jesus (PBUH) is God is a license to do whatever they want.

Christians are responsible for their own behavior. You can't blame a Communist conspiracy.

Islam can actual results. Islam can not merely talk a set of beliefs- Islam can actually affect transformation.

Can you imagine how horrified Christians would be if society actually followed Christianity? They'd be terrified.

It's clear- Islam doesn't just talk. Islam gets results. And its beliefs are logical. Not only is Islam logical, it's also simple and easy for people to understand- yet profound enough for people to think deeply about.

We point out how Islam gets results and Christianity doesn't. Of course this is the most predictable thing in the world. One of these is selling you a magic pill. The other is prescribing a program of diet and exercise.

It turns out the program prescribing diet and exercise is the one getting results. Shocking. It turns out the people who signed up for the magic pill aren't getting results.

And then when I point out which is getting results, I get the same thing: "results don't actually matter".

Either the Christians don't really believe or they're off in outer space. The world going down the drain, etc., etc. But they're not bothered, they don't care. They're indifferent. They just ignore it. Opiate of the masses.

Islam is more like caffeine waking up the masses.

Christianity doesn't even care about saving society or defending society. Its off in la la land. If Christianity wants to be off in outer space... okay, fine. But someone actually has to be concerned about society. Someone actually has to do something when it comes to society and keeping society sane.

So the people who believe in Christianity or supposedly believe in it on a part-time basis, when they feel like it and when they find it convenient- they should just move to the side.

There's a fight going on. There's a struggle going on between two sides. The Christians should stay out of the way. They're not willing to fight the good fight. The most they'll do is talk it. But you know where their heart is- just observe that they don't put their money where their mouth is.

So that's fine. They're not willing to do what needs to be done. That's fine- they just need to move to the side. That's all. They just need to move to the side and stay out of the way of the people who are actually involved and who are willing.

When Dajjal comes, most Christians are going to be bowing down and worshipping Dajjal. The Muslims are going to be taking a very different approach.

Look at how the two approach Israel. That shows you right there. Christianity isn't fighting Dajjal. Christianity is supporting Dajjal.
In all fairness Etagloc, satan has been attacking Bible-believing Christians from the beginning.

For thousands of years he has plotted & schemed against believers. He has studied mankind the whole time to discover our weaknesses, desires, temptations and how to manipulate people to do his bidding.

He has had the advantage of time & experience to hone his wicked plans.

He is attacking the Word of God & Christianity now more than ever, because he knows he is running out of time & that he will soon be cast into Hell.

He sees the finish line approaching and now he is sprinting.

The Bible has almost been fulfilled. We are living in the end times.

That is why we are seeing the worst of humanity and complete moral decay. I saw it (at least within my lifetime thus far, 38 years) begin to go downhill around 9/11. Then, in 2012, i could literally FEEL a dramatic change in the air, like a significant spiritual darkness was released—an archaic, exceedingly wicked force that is preying on the unsaved & blinding them from the truth, an antichrist spirit that not only rejects the truth, but hates it, as well.

This is NOT the same world I grew up in back in the 80’s. It has become a very different place....MUCH darker, spiritually & otherwise.

It is clear that prophecy is being fulfilled....we are presently in the apostasy, the falling away from the truth of the Gospel—exactly as prophecied by Jesus Christ Himself.

We Christians can see it happening.

We know it will get much, much worse before it gets better. And it will only get better for the saved in Christ.

The Bible tells us to put on the Armour of God.

Perhaps the most important piece of armour is the helmet of salvation. And without believing on Christ, you are entering a battlefield without a helmet, and that is a dangerous thing to be lacking when facing the enemy.

Muhammad cannot protect you from what is coming. Islam offers no armour with which to fight the coming war, and you do not want to face it unprotected.


Peace.

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Now I respect you and I don't have anything personal against you

but that is not war.

The Muslims know about jihad. Jihad is not reading scriptures. Jihad... gets ugly.

Islam is peaceful. But Islam is not... I guess the term is "punk".

I don't think these gimmicks are going to work with me.

Christians are not built for conflict.

I'm sorry but Christianity today is a horrible religion for men.

Some women are horrified of conflict and super averse to conflict.

Islam is for both sexes. It's not for just one.

But Christianity... I don't think you can trick me.

I'm not the only one who thinks Christianity is effeminate.

Why Western Christianity is Effeminate, Part 1

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/gloryseed/2016/12/western-christianity-effeminate-part-1/

Is Christianity an Inherently Feminine Religion?

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/is-christianity-an-inherently-feminine-religion/


Why are Christians Such Wimps?

https://www.henrymakow.com/001537.html

Feminine Christianity turns men away from church, CBMW Executive Director says

https://cbmw.org/uncategorized/feminine-christianity-turns-men-away-from-church-cbmw-executive-director-says/

I could go on and on.

These are not the Christians of 500 years ago who were out conquering the world.

I mean look at these religions. Islam is so, so satisfying. Islam scares people. Because Islam stands for something.

Islam has a backbone- and that backbone is intact. I don't know when Christianity's backbone was broken- but Christianity's backbone was broken a long time ago.

For men, Islam satisfies the deepest and most innate instincts. This is a religion of logic. Of clear absolutes. A religion which has a backbone. A religion which emphasizes courage. A religion that puts emphasis on struggle.

Islam- you have logic. You have clear reason. Christianity- it's about warm fuzziness. Christianity is soft. You deal with Christianity- you get a bunch of warm fuzziness. Islam has cold logic. It's not about warm fuzziness. And when things get ugly... the Muslims will be prepared for it. They will be prepared.

If you talk about war- and your concept of "war" is reading scripture- we're not talking about the same thing.

I think war- I'm thinking something completely different.

Right now there is quietly a civil war going on. But it's basically like a cold war.

At some point, though- I think it's going to be a hot war. If war really breaks out- the Christians are going to be civilians. They're not going to be the soldiers. They're not built for it.

Muslims? People are scared of Muslims. Because the Muslims are not a joke.

In the last days- there is going to be war. I don't mean reading scripture. I mean armed conflict.

You're going to have the side representing Dajjal and you're going to have Muslims.

When Dajjal comes and says "bow down and worship me"- people are going to be tested. Anyone can say they're a Christian or a Muslim.

But you're going to have to have a spine when that day comes. That's why the elite doesn't want people with spines. Because those people will bow down.

And the vast, vast majority of Christians will bow down. I'm not a sucker. If they get put the test- they're not going to be willing to die for what they believe in. So when Dajjal tests them- they will bow down.

And the Muslim resistance is not going to be reading scripture. The Muslim resistance is going to be armed conflict.

The vast, vast majority of Christians- they won't have the resistance to even refuse to bow down to Dajjal. You tell them what the Muslims are doing... they'll quite possibly have a heart attack. They will be terrified. They're not going to be the soldiers. They're going to be scared.

That Christians think "war" is reading scriptures... and that the Christians are okay with that and they think that's okay... that shows you. The Christians are going to be defenseless. When the real war comes, they're going to break like a bunch of eggs.

That's what they think "war" is? That's why you can't even take them serious when they talk about sort of thing. They're not serious. They won't even be prepared psychologically to be much more than helpless victims.

If Christians think there's moral superiority in being helpless victims when things get ugly... rather than the soldiers... they can take that approach. But not everyone can be a helpless victim. Someone has to fight the battles. The Christians can go be helpless victims on the sidelines. The Muslims are going to be on the front lines. When things hit the fan- I think I will be so happy that I'm not a Christian. I think it would be so humiliating. The Muslims won't be going out without a fight. The Christians.... they won't even be prepared psychologically. They're going to be helpless victims and then have this bizarre sense of being superior for helpless victims.

So there's certain things the Christians shouldn't talk about.

When it comes to the science department- Islam has them beat. When it comes to resistance- real resistance- Islam has them beat. When it comes to logic- easily, Islam wins.

The Christians have warm, vague fuzziness.

I don't say this stuff to try to gloat or feel superior. I hate to say it- it's just the cold, hard truth. I'm just telling the cold, hard truth. I'm not meaning to be insulting, condescending or anything like that.

Islam is at the front line of resisting the NWO. I wish I could say Christians were resisting. A few are. I think a few will. But overall... the situation.... for Christianity, it's embarrassing. I don't enjoy saying that. I don't get pleasure in saying that.

I'm not here to insult anyone or make anyone feel bad. I'm just telling the truth. I don't want to hurt people's feelings or offend people. That is not my intention.

I am simply out to tell the truth. I'm not out to hurt people's feelings. But if telling the truth hurts people's feelings... if telling the truth makes people so offended, everyone despises me... I have no choice. I have to tell the truth.
Western culture Christianity really became weak when churches decided to ignore clear instructions that only men were to be any official leaders in the church. 1 Corinthians 14:33-35, 1 Timothy 3:1-12, Titus 1:5-9
If women can become leaders against bible instructions via the "that was for cultural reasons only" excuse, why not gay men etc?
Although I am a woman I am very against women pastors (have read too much church history, seen mistakes by women fixated on warm,fuzzy spiritual experiences). My church has become quite rare in that they will not accept female pastors. They are not weak men.

Etagloc you might be pleasantly surprised if you ever decide to go to a church that only has male pastors. People like yourself - of whatever spiritual background - may be going too much on what you hear and have experienced in the past from feminized churches. Perhaps it is more USA culture than Christianity than you realize. USA men to me seem very weak compared to Australian men.

Another factor in weak churches - trying to get more people by watering-down the Gospel message and providing entertainment. Many fake converts like churches like social clubs. If all pastors suddenly decided to preach the whole bible, some churches would just about be empty within a month. McChurches have created at best over-sized, flabby Christian adult-babies. Many would not even be believers if they heard if they truly loved Jesus, they would obey His commandments. John 14:15

There are some Christian men who are swimming against the tide. They are sadly too rare but they are making a difference. They are definitely making a difference online for true Christians who want to learn how to defend the faith.
 
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The Christians have warm, vague fuzziness.
I am not one who enjoys comparisons when it comes to end times battles.
Many of Muslims hail from war torn countries and we have seen what war does.
There are different kinds of Christians colgate…..
some of the worst killer types are religious Blackwater/XE or the ones with the Jesus rifles in the US army (militaries)and they are not pacifist.
If they were all pacifist there would be no one supporting these wars rather many are signing up to fight overseas over lies.
May we not be those who support injustice and wrongdoing.
May the Creator keep us all safe. Ameen



There is a point whereby one has to shut out the liars and decide for themselves that they will not fall for the divide and conquer.
In this day and age I would say I do not care what religion you are as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this earth!




I, for one, will join in with anyone -- I don't care what color you are -- as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this earth.

Malcolm X

Muhammad cannot protect you from what is coming. Islam offers no armour with which to fight the coming war, and you do not want to face it unprotected.
FYI! That statement is offensive to Muslims not because of what you are stating regarding protection but due the fact that Muslims seek protection from the Creator not his creation. The Prophets are all his creation peace be upon all of them. We ask for help from the source alone without partners.
Quran surah Ikhlas 112
In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

Say: He is Allah, the One!
Allah, the Eternally Refuge!
He begetteth not nor was begotten.
And there is none comparable unto Him.
 
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I, for one, will join in with anyone -- I don't care what color you are -- as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this earth.

Malcolm X

Just stop doing what they tell you and live your lives in harmless harmony while tolerating all insults hurled against your God nation and family.

The future must play along according to the Word of God who wrote the Book of Life. And suddenly like a bolt of lightning He comes.
 

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Etagloc said:
I could go on and on.
These are not the Christians of 500 years ago who were out conquering the world.
I mean look at these religions. Islam is so, so satisfying. Islam scares people. Because Islam stands for something. Islam has a backbone- and that backbone is intact. I don't know when Christianity's backbone was broken- but Christianity's backbone was broken a long time ago.
Which should leave you asking why that backbone was broken and why "they", seemingly, haven't bothered with Islam's backbone. The elite understand the power it (Christianity) wields in the life of the adherent. Despite all the attacks that Christianity has had to weather, truth always prevails. Only the truth can satisfy the longings of the soul. And while an economic boom had people wandering off into other alternative faiths, its safe to say that crises have a way of getting people back into the fold. And we should expect nothing less of the coming financial collapse, unfortunately there are wolves in sheep's skin, waiting in the wings for the returnees.
 

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because they are usually more influenced by the world than by faith.
Bad parenting innit.

It seems it is an officially Muslim only country:

https://www.britannica.com/place/Saudi-Arabia/Religion
Majority? Yes. Only? no.

Which should leave you asking why that backbone was broken and why "they", seemingly, haven't bothered with Islam's backbone.
You have to be seriously blind if you think that "they" haven't messed with backbone of muslims. Every move by the west has been, in one way or another, against muslims and to degrade them. Countless wars against Muslim countries, broken promises, spreading propaganda about terrorist, open racism against ethnicities, taking away their basic human rights. They have done it all.

The only difference here is that while Christianity became weaker as a result because the new generation doesn't care about religion. Islam has only gotten stronger because faith is strong. That is why people going through so much can go up and say "Allah is watching and He is just".
 

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You have to be seriously blind if you think that "they" haven't messed with backbone of muslims. Every move by the west has been, in one way or another, against muslims and to degrade them. Countless wars against Muslim countries, broken promises, spreading propaganda about terrorist, open racism against ethnicities, taking away their basic human rights. They have done it all.

The only difference here is that while Christianity became weaker as a result because the new generation doesn't care about religion. Islam has only gotten stronger because faith is strong. That is why people going through so much can go up and say "Allah is watching and He is just".
Iam not disputing that. Any faith is always faced with attacks both from within and from without but it is the attacks from within that are most damaging. Attacks from outside only make any faith stronger. 9/11, best example. Rome tried it with persecution but the blood of martyrs just swelled the ranks and she only realized that subversiveness was the best way to go.
When movements for female/gay imams gain steam and take hold, I can promise you, it will be downhill from there. And that is the backbone. You only need to assail the pillars of the faith and you are good to go!
 

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Actually JoChris, my paternal uncle has been an agnostic most of his life and after the death of a family member, at the age of 43 he converted to the faith he abandoned as a child.

I also have a brother in law who's an atheist, so I've had a glimpse into how they view life.
 

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I've heard there's a mosque lead by the disgraced Shuaib webb in the states, where women lead prayers and homosexuality is supported.

This is just a rumour circulating in London I have no idea if it's true.
 

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When movements for female/gay imams gain steam and take hold, I can promise you, it will be downhill from there
There are already female imams trying to call for prayer when its against Islam, there are Muslim gay societies and gay imams who want the whole event about Sodom or Prophet Lut a.s taken out from the Quran. But its not going "Downhill" anywhere because we aren't raised to follow men. "For you your religion, for me my religion" is the verse that carries us through the hardships.

My entire paternal family was hindu, when my father and his siblings + cousins accepted Islam all of them were disowned. But they stuck to Islam and tried their best to get their families to understand.

Most of my friends are atheists, doesn't mean I am going to do what they say. If your kids are so weak that comments like "Religion is dumb" is enough to make them leave their faith, you need to raise better kids. Ironically enough, most of my western friends are either atheists or left the church BECAUSE of their parents.
 

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I've heard there's a mosque lead by the disgraced Shuaib webb in the states, where women lead prayers and homosexuality is supported.

This is just a rumour circulating in London I have no idea if it's true.
100% true, the female imam was also leading the prayers without any hijab.
 

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Most of my friends are atheists, doesn't mean I am going to do what they say. If your kids are so weak that comments like "Religion is dumb" is enough to make them leave their faith, you need to raise better kids. Ironically enough, most of my western friends are either atheists or left the church BECAUSE of their parents
Very true
 

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Islam is facing the same issues as Christianity. We also have people redefining what it means to follow God. We've witnessed Muslims on here redefining the Lut story. Like manama said, whatever they attempt to redefine, won't affect the majority who stay true to the faith's origins. Also Islam is spreading and people are turning to it for answers. So whilst you have this small minority attempting to distort and twist the message, you also have many entering it and following it for what it is.

It seems with Christianity, not only is it dwindling, people are abandoning their faith and many sects are trying to redefine it too. That's why it's difficult to pinpoint the one true message of Christianity. There are so many differing dominations and every church as it's own way of preaching and interpreting the bible. People are abandoning it because there is no clear message to be learnt from it. That, along with other components make it a religion in fast decline ...
 

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There are already female imams trying to call for prayer when its against Islam, there are Muslim gay societies and gay imams who want the whole event about Sodom or Prophet Lut a.s taken out from the Quran. But its not going "Downhill" anywhere because we aren't raised to follow men. "For you your religion, for me my religion" is the verse that carries us through the hardships.
Really? Developments to keep an eye on. Its not like the unraveling happens in a day. Christianity's current problems started in the 50s and 60s. So, for Islam, it would probably take another 50-100 years to actually be at point where female imams or sheikhs are socially accepted. Also, since the future promises more gay people (enviromental factors compromising the endocrine system), concessions will have to be made to accomodate them.

For us, we now have this: the Queen James bible
 

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it would probably take another 50-100 years to actually be at point where female imams or sheikhs are socially accepted.
That would never happen. Even right now when Christian apologists try to make space for such things "they were born with it" we laugh and move on. West being west its called. We don't let them near our faith.

For us, we now have this: the Queen James bible
LMFAOOO no wayyy
 
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