So surprised at all the comments on this forum perpetuating the classic arguments of the false male/female divide.Women Are Still Penalized for Having More Sexual Partners
New research finds that the sexual double standard persists.psmag.com
The researchers recruited 4,455 participants via Amazon's Mechanical Turk website who were told they would take part in a study into their "perceptions of others." The team restricted participation to people ages 18 to 35, reasoning that the sexual double standard—in which men are rewarded for sexual activity, while women are punished—would be particularly relevant for young adults.
Each participant was directed "to think about either one male or one female friend or acquaintance whom they (a) knew in their real life, and (b) had information about their sexual history."
Subjects then responded to 20 statements about this person, which evaluated them in terms of their values, success, intelligence, and likability.
Finally, they described the nature of their relationship with the person they were evaluating, and noted "how many people they thought the target individual had engaged in sexual intercourse with."
The results showed a clear pattern. Women were "increasingly derogated as the number of sexual partners increased," but men were not. This pattern held whether the people doing the judging were male or female.
"The sexual double standard was more pronounced as participants' certainty about the target's number of sexual partners increased," the researchers report. Still, the impact of this confidence was very small, meaning that women were judged more harshly even if the participants were relying on rumors or speculation.
Thoughts?
I was also shocked at the extent of the gender divided conditioned views here. It's seems the idea that men and women need to be conditioned to be at odds with each other in order to make the masses easier to control has been completely lost on the sort of people I would expect to see through it!I dislike double standards related to any subject really, but I'm particularly bothered by slut-shaming; I remember back in high school that sexually promiscuous guys were labeled as "players", while sexually promiscuous females were called every bad name imaginable, not just "slut".
Of course I don't expect the issue of slut-shaming to be a popular subject of conversation around here since there seems to be a consensus that it's alright to shame woman for a variety of reasons, because of how this forum tends to view feminist issues in a negative light.
Yeah... because women are sinners and men are helpless...As a women and a lot of women want to dress in revealing because they love sin. Ironical the same women don’t like guys staring at them with lust but have the nerve to wear tight clothes that show off their shape, and wear clothes that show their bodies.
As simple as right v wrong..Also, a quote on this topic - "It's easy to be a slut, there's ugly fat sluts everywhere. But being a player is very hard."
Again, I think promiscuity is eventually a damaging thing to the individual, no matter their gender. But this helps explain society's stance on women vs men when in comes to partner count. It's easy vs hard. People admire that which is hard to do, and don't value that which is easy to do. And I wish we all stopped pretending this topic is not as simple as that.
Pretty much agree.@Aero
Well stated.
I also dgaf what people do behind closed doors (with consenting adults).
I'm not condemning anyone, per se.
Its true the double standard still exists.
It shouldn't.
All should be held accountable for their actions.
Its just been my observation that the most promiscuous folks are also the most lonely and depressed, and possibly drug users, also.
That's a pretty good recipe for disaster.
The reasons someone sleeps around shouldn't matter to anyone other than themselves. Painting anyone who sleeps around as inevitably "lost" and as needing to be saved (in many cases they don't) IS still a form of shaming.Maybe...... looks aside... pretty or ugly or handsome or hideous...I think a lot of promiscuity stems from poor self esteem.
The promise of excitement and fulfillment drives a person to pursue that "high" if you will.
Pretty sure its also a classical addiction.
Welcome to ideas...any one? Bueller?
Any addiction counselors in the house?
Weren't you the one who was talking about sexually transmitted demons?? You're still slut-shaming regardless.I also dgaf what people do behind closed doors (with consenting adults).
I'm not condemning anyone, per se.
I previously pointed out the age difference because it's just creepy. Don't play dumb, we all know dating someone who's 50+ years younger is plain creepy. And age difference often means power imbalance. I can't believe I have to explain this.As recently observed in here, with Tidal (whom I like, and have 0 issues with) was it not you who made a comment about how his "love interest" was too young, for him? Why is that? What makes anyone a proper judge in determining whether one person is worthy of another, or not?
And yes, in the dating market physical attractiveness and youth are a plus.Also his "love interest" was objectively attractive, and youthful, thereby holding more "value", then him?
Dismissing a woman as a brainless bimbo because she's wearing a revealing outfit or has too much make-up on doesn't sit well with me, but that's where our culture is still at so.While it may be true that not all scantily clad women are sluts, it still doesn't send out a good message to people.
What it says is "look at me, I'm sexy, but you need to respect me for my mind, too". ???
Oh, ok. Sure. Mixed messages, much??
???I won't play any dumber than you, pretending that a woman who is showcasing her body isn't attempting to "sell" something to society.
Tell me that isn't true...
You seem to have a vendetta against young people who don't have kids. LOLOn a personal note, how old are you? Do you have kids?
If you are in your 20s and childless, then you have no idea how this stuff actually impacts society in the long run....
Should you be treated with respect for wearing a revealing outfit..or is that a desperate attempt for male attention? And if that’s the way you go about seeking male attention..then aren’t you acting slutty?And I will add that for women slut-shaming also comes in the form of people assuming we're promiscuous if we wear a revealing outfit which doesn't happen to men, and as a result we're treated with less respect.
No one will assume they can guess the number of sexual partners that men had based on their clothing and it doesn't affect the way they're treated. There is still this idea that a woman's value is based on her modesty and her chastity.
Looking good and putting effort into your appearance will get you appraisal in society, you don't have to actually be "provocative" (to your standards) for that. Attractiveness will always be a plus if you have it. That being said, one can put effort into their apperance and still develop other qualities and talents. It doesn't have to be one or the other.@morita
No vendetta.
But what you lack is experiential knowledge.
All youth feel entitled because they are in their prime of beauty, fertility and virility.
Once you are dethroned from that position, let me know how you see things...
And yes, MSM heavily influences the norms of society. Promiscuity and clothing and fashion influences ordinary citizens on a subliminal level.
It is entirely intentional to dedicate energy to ones appearance. To focus on enhancing their features with makeup, hair accesories. Exaggerating their attributes with clothing or getting surgeries for enhancement. Why do people focus so much on how they look when they should really be developing other interior qualities, instead?
What's the purpose of that?
To gain power and have influence on others?
So full circle it comes down to power and influence....
Sex= power.
Women use that as a power point.
Always have.
Dressing it up as something else is unfortunate.
ETA: I'm just offering a different perspective and trying to help inform using my experience and observations.
If one develops their physical appearance to look like all they think about is sex...then people aren’t going to think they have any other qualities/talents.You do realize that someone who invests in their physical appearance can also develop other qualities/talents right? It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Well, old people aren't concerned about their physical appearance because your looks fade so after you hit 30 you have to find something else.I'm not a young adult, but I have observed the bizarre casuality and frequency of casual sex and obsession with ones self, especially their appearance. Which is hilarious because its literally just the encasement of ones body. Selfies, sexting, hookups, tinder, plastic surgery. To me, its more of the "how does this appear to the world" fake facade not what truly is.
Then again the youth culture doesn't seem concerned with truth. Just concerned about their "rights" whatever those are???