Double standard and slut-shaming

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she's young enough to be his grand-daughter

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Ah, but many young ladies prefer older men because they know we're the ones with the money and the brains..;)
Anyway I was pranking you all because she's not my type unless she's sad and lonely in which case I could look after her like a father figure and buy her diamonds and things to cheer her up, and take her to Venice on the Orient Express and ocean liner cruises; oops sorry was I ranting?
Below: Christina Rossetti tugs my soppy heartstrings like crazy (sniffle)-

 






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God isn't limited as I've said before. He used his powers to impregnate Mary for he created life. God isn't a sexual being therefore nothing of that sort happened.
So he impregnated a 14 year old girl with himself, so he himself who is also his son could be executed for the sons of a woman who spoke to a servant and are an apple. He then just before he died which was the plan, cried out to himself 'why have you forsaken me', at which point he died. Then an earthquake happened, and some Jewish zombies rose from the graves. A few days later he was reanimated by himself and he rose up into the sky thanks to himself?
 






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So he impregnated a 14 year old girl with himself, so he himself who is also his son could be executed for the sons of a woman who spoke to a servant and are an apple. He then just before he died which was the plan, cried out to himself 'why have you forsaken me', at which point he died. Then an earthquake happened, and some Jewish zombies rose from the graves. A few days later he was reanimated by himself and he rose up into the sky thanks to himself?
Yep, he rose from the dead dearie. :) I don't remember any zombies rising from their graves. Do quote the scripture where this is mentioned please.
 






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Kudos to the ones who try--> but brevity is your friend, if you want to truly get a point across.
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is that breve enough??
Sorry, I couldn't help it. (feeling extra petty today)
 






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The researchers recruited 4,455 participants via Amazon's Mechanical Turk website who were told they would take part in a study into their "perceptions of others." The team restricted participation to people ages 18 to 35, reasoning that the sexual double standard—in which men are rewarded for sexual activity, while women are punished—would be particularly relevant for young adults.
Each participant was directed "to think about either one male or one female friend or acquaintance whom they (a) knew in their real life, and (b) had information about their sexual history."
Subjects then responded to 20 statements about this person, which evaluated them in terms of their values, success, intelligence, and likability.

Finally, they described the nature of their relationship with the person they were evaluating, and noted "how many people they thought the target individual had engaged in sexual intercourse with."
The results showed a clear pattern. Women were "increasingly derogated as the number of sexual partners increased," but men were not. This pattern held whether the people doing the judging were male or female.

"The sexual double standard was more pronounced as participants' certainty about the target's number of sexual partners increased," the researchers report. Still, the impact of this confidence was very small, meaning that women were judged more harshly even if the participants were relying on rumors or speculation.



Thoughts?
So surprised at all the comments on this forum perpetuating the classic arguments of the false male/female divide.
I expected people that frequent a website that accepts the reality of hidden agendas would be aware of the agenda to divide the human race along gender lines.
Instead I find the same old sort of comments and discussions of people who have been conditioned to think in these divisive ways.
Bizzare.
 






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I dislike double standards related to any subject really, but I'm particularly bothered by slut-shaming; I remember back in high school that sexually promiscuous guys were labeled as "players", while sexually promiscuous females were called every bad name imaginable, not just "slut".

Of course I don't expect the issue of slut-shaming to be a popular subject of conversation around here since there seems to be a consensus that it's alright to shame woman for a variety of reasons, because of how this forum tends to view feminist issues in a negative light.
I was also shocked at the extent of the gender divided conditioned views here. It's seems the idea that men and women need to be conditioned to be at odds with each other in order to make the masses easier to control has been completely lost on the sort of people I would expect to see through it!
 






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As a women and a lot of women want to dress in revealing because they love sin. Ironical the same women don’t like guys staring at them with lust but have the nerve to wear tight clothes that show off their shape, and wear clothes that show their bodies.
 






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As a women and a lot of women want to dress in revealing because they love sin. Ironical the same women don’t like guys staring at them with lust but have the nerve to wear tight clothes that show off their shape, and wear clothes that show their bodies.
Yeah... because women are sinners and men are helpless... :rolleyes:
 






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Men who chose women based on the number of previous sexual partners a woman had, without being chaste themselves, don't see her as a person but as an extension of their ego. That's what it looks like.
 






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DanteXMachina

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It's simple. It's all about how the society percieves men and women in the sexual "market". "Masterkey or a shitty lock" analogy fits as an explanation.

You can talk all you want but men are judged by their sexual success as much as women are shamed for their sexual success. It works both ways. If a man has no sexual success he will be shamed much more than the most promiscuous (sexually successful) woman. Or are we doing this "world is only unfair to women" yet again? Men are constantly shamed based on the lack of sexual prowess. He has "small pp", he has to pay for sex, incel, his wife has dry vagina (recent Shapiro smears) etc... But the society has shamed them to a point that they're too afraid to even point out to the hipocrisy. It's not just women that shame men in that way, men do it to each other all the time too.

It would be healthier if a man and woman pair together, instead of being promiscuous and sleeping around with different people. That's what we should strive for, not for wanting to sleep with tons of people and completely ruining our pair bonding capabilities.
 






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Agreed with @DanteXMachina
What you speak is true.
Also want to add that its other women slut-shaming each other most of the time, too.
Perhaps not all men sleep around (nothing wrong with that, at all) but I would guess that most view pornography or in the very least have pornographic fantasies, in some way...
The real issue with promiscuity is that it devalues and degrades a person to a sex object. I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread with regards to prostitutes. By "sharing" oneself in the most vulnerable human form, you are exposing your weaknesses and vulnerabilities to another person.
Not to mention the amount of time and energy wasted in primping and posturing that goes into all of it..
Do what pleases you, I guess, but know there are effects and consequences for one's actions....
Also wanted to say, men are wired by having higher sex drives (generally speaking) so yes, when a woman dresses provocatively it is difficult for men to just "ignore" that (for heterosexual men).
Pretending otherwise, is just flat out dishonesty. :rolleyes:
ETA: there's a reason they sell sex on tv. It works. It puts ones mind into a lower process that focuses on base instinctual needs. It's like a hypnotic trance the mind enters when viewing sexually explicit materials. Just saying...
 






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DanteXMachina

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Also, a quote on this topic - "It's easy to be a slut, there's ugly fat sluts everywhere. But being a player is very hard."
Again, I think promiscuity is eventually a damaging thing to the individual, no matter their gender. But this helps explain society's stance on women vs men when in comes to partner count. It's easy vs hard. People admire that which is hard to do, and don't value that which is easy to do. And I wish we all stopped pretending this topic is not as simple as that.

For a man, the type of woman he's with reflects on him. A man wants to be proud of the woman that he won over, and if she's an easy catch that everyone had, what does that say of him?

But, to put it in more detail - Most women nowadays get the attention and ego stroked very early in their life. In their twenties, and if the woman is decent looking, every younger simp and older sleezeball in the world is giving them all the attention in the world. Then you also have women with inflated egos and complete lack of self awareness even if they're objectively ugly but know how to use makeup - because they too get a ton of attention. A lot of times modern women think they can enjoy their youthful freedom and enjoy all the attention they want, and then settle down later in life, but life surprises them quite harshly. There is nothing wrong with a woman doing what she wants (as long as it doesn't hurt anyone), but she can't be mad at the world when the world doesn't see her as relationship/marriage material.

Women who don't understand why a man wouldn't want his future wife to have dozens or hundreds of previous sexual partners are the same women who will be discarded by any serious / self-respecting man. These women will be left aside and will then complain asking "where have all the good men gone, they all just want sex". There is a saying "you can only sell that which you're selling". You obviously don't have to offer what he wants to "buy", and I'm not talking about sexual purity on it's own - more so what comes as a baggage with it. None of them want you, and you don't get to go around saying how morally bad their stance is when you also completely ignored that short chubby kid in highschool. Perhaps you can marry a boring and awkward man who is always going to be afraid to tell you "no". And maybe you won't because you couldn't love a man like that. Nobody is bad if they don't like you. This applies to both men and women. Young or old.
 






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Also, a quote on this topic - "It's easy to be a slut, there's ugly fat sluts everywhere. But being a player is very hard."
Again, I think promiscuity is eventually a damaging thing to the individual, no matter their gender. But this helps explain society's stance on women vs men when in comes to partner count. It's easy vs hard. People admire that which is hard to do, and don't value that which is easy to do. And I wish we all stopped pretending this topic is not as simple as that.
As simple as right v wrong..
 






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@DanteXMachina
Going to add that there are "ugly sluts" of both genders. Period.
From a patriarchal standpoint, a promiscuous heterosexual man is considered a "stud" or "player" the more sexually experienced he is.
For a woman to do the same she's just considered a slut (by societies standards).
Of course now we live in a feministic "sex is power" society where that's the norm, and encouraged, and personally i don't care what people do with other consenting adults, behind closed doors.
Women "sell" their bodies for attention.
Men sell their charm or maybe money, to "get around".
Tale as old as time.
The stereotype of a handsome, promiscuous, man is not entirely accurate.
In fact I would wager that extremely attractive people are less promiscuous, and that most "sluts" are average, at best.
While I agreed mostly with your first posting, I found your second to be bias towards men, while still shaming women for their inchastity.
As far as I'm concerned, sluts come in all sexes, shapes, and sizes.
I judge them the same, either way. ;)
Bottom line, people can do what they please, but it WILL affect your soul, eventually.
The best thing anyone can do is to love and respect themselves, first. Someone who loves and respects themselves, won't put their integrity in jeopardy, that way.
 






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You all can dress slut-shaming up however you want, but the double standard is pretty obvious. As far as pure argumentative logic goes, the same standard should apply to both men and women when it comes to sex.

A man who bangs a ton of chicks is not like a master key that opens all doors. Because no man will ever unlock all doors, so the whole idea is based on a pretty obvious fallacy. Your key might open a lot of doors but get over yourselves guys. You don't have a master key, and if you did it wouldn't be from your root chakra.
 






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@Aero
Well stated.
I also dgaf what people do behind closed doors (with consenting adults).
I'm not condemning anyone, per se.
Its true the double standard still exists.
It shouldn't.
All should be held accountable for their actions.
Its just been my observation that the most promiscuous folks are also the most lonely and depressed, and possibly drug users, also.
That's a pretty good recipe for disaster.
 






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@Aero
Well stated.
I also dgaf what people do behind closed doors (with consenting adults).
I'm not condemning anyone, per se.
Its true the double standard still exists.
It shouldn't.
All should be held accountable for their actions.
Its just been my observation that the most promiscuous folks are also the most lonely and depressed, and possibly drug users, also.
That's a pretty good recipe for disaster.
Pretty much agree.

I'm just not going to sit here and act like a woman who is a certified bombshell can't unlock many a man's doors. I mean wtf.
 






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Maybe...... looks aside... pretty or ugly or handsome or hideous...I think a lot of promiscuity stems from poor self esteem.
The promise of excitement and fulfillment drives a person to pursue that "high" if you will.
Pretty sure its also a classical addiction.
Welcome to ideas...any one? Bueller?
Any addiction counselors in the house?
 






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