Does college = Success

[Lisa]

He makes a lot of good points in this video..the biggest one is college teaches you how not to succeed.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

The Dumbing Down of America – By Design

The Dumbing Down of America – By Design The last thing the elite wants is an informed, empowered public mobilizing any grassroots movement to oppose government tyranny. First published by GR in August 2014 This presentation focuses on the myriad ways in which the powers-that-be in the United...

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[Lisa]

The Dumbing Down of America – By Design

The Dumbing Down of America – By Design The last thing the elite wants is an informed, empowered public mobilizing any grassroots movement to oppose government tyranny. First published by GR in August 2014 This presentation focuses on the myriad ways in which the powers-that-be in the United...

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Did you watch the video?

 

[Tidal]

I like what billionnaire Lord Alan Sugar says- "Personality opens doors, and character keeps them open".
My life experience has been that if you can write a good job application letter and are great at the interview, it far outweighs all the paper diplomas and stuff.
I left school with only average qualifications but it never hindered me in the least, for example I once applied for a temporary hotel porters job and was so good at the interview that they offered me the permanent job of hotel manager.
(Sadly I couldn't take it as I was moving to live in another part of the country in a few weeks, otherwise I might have ended up as Basil Fawlty..)

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Did you watch the video?

Yes, I did. It's the reason I posted the other thread. The guy's not saying anything insightful or enlightening, and is pandering to the simple masses. Not to mention he equates knowledge with monetary success.

 

[Lisa]

Yes, I did. It's the reason I posted the other thread. The guy's not saying anything insightful or enlightening, and is pandering to the simple masses. Not to mention he equates knowledge with monetary success.

I thought he was insightful...saying that college doesn’t teach you to innovate..and I agree with that.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

I thought he was insightful...saying that college doesn’t teach you to innovate..and I agree with that.

Of course you would think he's insightful, it's a video from Prager U.

Colleges, universities and I would even say certificate courses, teach people much more than to be innovative, it stretches the mind and opens it up to other possibilities, rather than what we may have thought before attending it. It puts Bloom's taxomony into action.

As the saying goes "knowledge is power", although, there's also Peter Baskerville's quote, which is "The ignorant are ignorant of their ignorance".

 

[Lisa]

Of course you would think he's insightful, it's a video from Prager U.

Colleges, universities and I would even say certificate courses, teach people much more than to be innovative, it stretches the mind and opens it up to other possibilities, rather than what we may have thought before attending it. It puts Bloom's taxomony into action.

As the saying goes "knowledge is power", although, there's also Peter Baskerville's quote, which is "The ignorant are ignorant of their ignorance".

They actually have some pretty good videos there.

Seems like it closes the mind...and invites people to hate themselves and riot...but haha..I digress...sure they teach you some good stuff there at those colleges.

Knowledge is power...and power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

They actually have some pretty good videos there.

Seems like it closes the mind...and invites people to hate themselves and riot...but haha..I digress...sure they teach you some good stuff there at those colleges.

Knowledge is power...and power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

If you think it closes the mind and invites people to hate themselves and cause riots, then clearly the propaganda has worked on you. I'm not interesting in discussing orchestrated psy-ops because I teach adults and understand the obstacles they face when they don't have enough education to "succeed" so from my perspective, the debate is futile.

 

[Lisa]

If you think it closes the mind and invites people to hate themselves and cause riots, then clearly the propaganda has worked on you. I'm not interesting in discussing orchestrated psy-ops because I teach adults and understand the obstacles they face when they don't have enough education to "succeed" so from my perspective, the debate is futile.

Kinda seems like it with college aged young adults running around burning down things and fighting the police...

That education that teaches people to hate the color of their skin isn’t really an education it it? That goes both ways too.

I like this article...by Dennis Prager none the less..but I think it is accurate...

Coming Home From College | National Review

When you send your child to college, you are playing Russian roulette with their character.

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[Lisa]

Coming Home From College
By DENNIS PRAGER
March 12, 2019 10:10 AM

When you send your child to college, you are playing Russian roulette with their character.
Every year, many thousands of American parents find that the son or daughter they sent to college has been transformed by college into a leftist. For left-wing parents, this may be a blessing, but for parents who are not leftist — not to mention those who are conservative — it is often painfully jolting.

It is jolting because their beloved child now holds America in contempt; prefers socialism to capitalism; regards all white people and police as racist; believes the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism are not only nonsense, but dangerous nonsense; no longer believes that men and women are inherently different — or even that male and female objectively exist; is uninterested in getting married and having children; believes the president of the United States is a fascist, as are all those who voted for him; and supports the suppression of speech that he or she regards as “hate speech.”
While this is music to the ears of left-wing parents, most traditionally liberal parents will not be all that happy with this transformation. Unlike leftists, most liberals do love America and think that, despite its flaws, it is worthy of respect. They do not believe male and female are subjective categories, and they believe in free speech — even for “hate speech.”

For conservative parents, the transformation is far worse. “Nightmare” is not too strong a description. Not only does their child hold everything they cherish in contempt, but their child, who loved and respected them a year or two before, now holds them in contempt.
It is a nightmare for another reason: Young people who are transformed into leftists almost always become less kind, less happy, and more angry.

It’s hard to imagine that the opposite could occur — that is, that a young person could buy into all the left-wing views described above and become a sweeter human being.
It is a sad rule of life that whatever the Left touches, it ruins; music, art, literature, religion, late-night TV, the Academy Awards, sports, economies, the family structure, the Boy Scouts, and race relations are just a few examples. It also ruins people — their character and their happiness.

How could it not?
One of the prerequisites of good character — as well as of happiness — is gratitude, and leftism is rooted in ingratitude. If you are grateful to be an American, you are, by definition, not a leftist. If you are, for example, a black who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your race,” an “Uncle Tom.” If you are a woman who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your gender.” Feminist icon Gloria Steinem once called female Republican senator Kay Bailey Hutchison a “female impersonator” because a real woman cannot be a conservative. In addition, the Left drills into every nonwhite and every woman the idea that they are victims, and people who see themselves as victims are ungrateful and angry, two traits that always make a person meaner.
Every parent whose child came home from college (or, increasingly, high school) a leftist should be asked: “Is your daughter or son happier as a result of becoming a leftist? Is he or she kinder? More tolerant? More respectful?”

So it is not only institutions that the Left ruins, but also the character of its adherents. Where are the prominent conservative equivalents of Robert De Niro shouting “F*** Trump” at awards ceremonies? Of Sarah Silverman tweeting to the president of the United States: “I’m just gonna go with F*** YOU, and also add that you are a smelly penis hole with balls that touch water. Eat sh**, you greedy t***”? Of Representative Rashida Tlaib telling supporters, among whom were children, “We’re gonna impeach the motherf***er”?
Every American should watch how a group of ten-year-old girls recently treated 85-year-old California senator Dianne Feinstein. Being indoctrinated into leftism apparently permitted them to treat a U.S. senator, not to mention a woman 75 years older than them, with contempt.

It is inconceivable that a group of ten-year-old conservative kids, accompanied by their teachers, would ever treat an 85-year-old, senator or not, so condescendingly.

When you send your child to college, you are not just playing Russian roulette with their values. You are playing Russian roulette with their character and the way they will treat you. Left-wing parents do not have a similar worry. If their child somehow returns home from college a Christian or a religious Jew, not only will they not be treated with contempt, they will probably be treated with even more respect than before. Leftism makes you worse. Judeo-Christian religions make you better. That might not be the fashionable view, but it just happens to be true.

Coming Home From College | National Review

When you send your child to college, you are playing Russian roulette with their character.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[Maes17]

Having a degree doesn’t guarantee automatic success. My biggest take away from college was making connections. Utilizing alumni benefits. Making connections when presented. Once you get over the general studies which is a stupid requirement and is basically an extension of high school and you get into actual field studies. Depending on which college you go to. Think USC alumni vs UGA alumni - los angeles has more connections. You mingle with those people or at least intern

 

[Aero]

That article from Prager U about parents playing Russian roulette with their kid's character has me spinning. Dennis Prager would have you believe your kid will come back from liberal college as a werewolf. Moreover, what redneck Christian family would send their kid to a liberal college anyway? I mean come on, it's just total crap.

Maybe don't send your kid to the school of lycanthropy if you don't want them to become a werewolf (Jackass). Anyway, that brings me to my main point about college. Every college has some really good paths, but most of what America sells anymore is called "mediocrity". It's our choice to settle for it or not.

 

[polymoog]

When you send your child to college, you are playing Russian roulette with their character.
Every year, many thousands of American parents find that the son or daughter they sent to college has been transformed by college into a leftist. For left-wing parents, this may be a blessing, but for parents who are not leftist — not to mention those who are conservative — it is often painfully jolting.

in the article he discusses the end product of the progressive left collegiate programming. nowhere does he discuss WHY it is the way it is or how it became that way.

 

[Lisa]

Having a degree doesn’t guarantee automatic success. My biggest take away from college was making connections. Utilizing alumni benefits. Making connections when presented. Once you get over the general studies which is a stupid requirement and is basically an extension of high school and you get into actual field studies. Depending on which college you go to. Think USC alumni vs UGA alumni - los angeles has more connections. You mingle with those people or at least intern

Isn’t general studies just a way to make more money off you anyway?

 

[Lisa]

in the article he discusses the end product of the progressive left collegiate programming. nowhere does he discuss WHY it is the way it is or how it became that way.

Maybe he has a different article about how it got that way..but does it matter? It IS that way and negatively affecting young adults.

 

[justjess]

Maybe he has a different article about how it got that way..but does it matter? It IS that way and negatively affecting young adults.

Says the person who never stepped foot in a college and hasn’t stepped foot in a school of any type in decades...

 

[Lisa]

Says the person who never stepped foot in a college and hasn’t stepped foot in a school of any type in decades...

It’s funny how you automatically assume that’s the truth.
But as for the article..it is true that colleges have gone to the left.

 

[justjess]

It’s funny how you automatically assume that’s the truth.
But as for the article..it is true that colleges have gone to the left.

How do you know it’s true Lisa? An opinion article?

 

[Lisa]

How do you know it’s true Lisa? An opinion article?

I’ve seen videos of different people interviewing people on campuses. There’s a reason states went blue.