Do you believe climate change is real or not?

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I believe that if water levels rise the effects would be catastrophic. Millions will be displaced across the globe, causing stress to our already pathetic emergency infrastructures. So it's critical that we find out if we can prevent that from happening.

Do you want your front yard to turn into a FEMA camp? I rest my case.
What exactly do we suppose the reaction will be if sites like Hanford suddenly go underwater?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site
 





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....here's the "money quote" from this (long) article:

..."Extinction Rebellion activists have drawn up plans to attract activists who are 'poor' and from ethnic minorities in a bid to change the white, middle-class make-up of the movement"... and: ..."Another activist says the movement 'needs to sound less hippy', while others fear the group's aim of mass arrests will alienate ethnic minority communities who historically suffered racial injustice at the hands of the police. One document admits this has caused an issue in the public perception of the group"...

...(ie: too many pampered middle-class/wealthy white kids in the movement.... we need more 'poor/downtrodden' faces in the crowd to evoke the proper level of sympathy and support for the cause)....

...article too long and graphic-laden to copy/paste - but it makes the point that all these 'climate protesters' are basically paid actors...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7566515/Extinction-Rebellion-files-reveal-climate-zealots-paid-400-week.html

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...another take, with more details, on Dr. Susan Crockford and her 'academic termination':

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/she-would-have-stood-a-better-chance-against-polar-bears.php

POSTED ON OCTOBER 23, 2019 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN CLIMATE, LEFTISM, LIBERALS

SHE WOULD HAVE STOOD A BETTER CHANCE AGAINST POLAR BEARS
Dr. Susan Crockford is one of the world’s leading experts on polar bears. As such, she has repeatedly reported the inconvenient fact that polar bears are thriving, with their populations burgeoning. Why is this fact inconvenient? Because climate change activists have chosen polar bears–considered to be cute by people who don’t have to deal with them–as a propaganda tool.

We have quoted Dr. Crockford’s work a number of times: here, here, here, on walruses, here, and more. Crockford has written a book called The Polar Bear Catastrophe That Never Happened. To my knowledge, no competent scientist has taken issue with her work, and the Inuit, who live in proximity to polar bears, testify to the problems caused by their growing numbers.

But in today’s academia, it is not enough to be right. In fact, it can be perilous to be right, if the truths one tells are inconvenient for the Left. CFACT reports that Dr. Crockford has been fired (actually, non-renewed) by the University of Victoria:
It appears that telling the truth about polar bears made Dr. Susan Crockford, a respected, published Canadian zoologist, the victim of an ideological purge. First she was removed from the University of Victoria’s speakers bureau, and then not renewed to her position as an adjunct professor.
“The loss of adjunct status,” Crockford wrote, “will primarily prevent me from continuing scientific research on speciation and domestication mechanisms in evolution: without an academic affiliation I will be unable to secure research funds or academic collaborations.”​
Of course, anyone who spends her time in the far North studying polar bears and other creatures is not likely to be a wimp.
“What a lack of academic affiliation has not done, and cannot do,” Crockford continued, “is stop me from investigating and commenting on the failures and inconsistencies of science that I see in published polar bear research papers and reflected in public statements made by polar bear specialists. I am still a former adjunct professor and I will not be silenced.”​
As CFACT points out, the fact that Crockford won’t shut up doesn’t mean that her loss of academic affiliation does no harm:
They know they can’t silence Susan Crockford, but know also that harming her creates an atmosphere of fear that most others lack the courage to confront.​
That is the Left’s strategy, and the Left is now in control of most of our institutions.

CFACT points out a comment on its own forum by a liberal who boasts of getting two academics fired:
You will be pleased to know that in the past two years I successfully had two deniers fired (forced resignations) from their university positions. One was a prolific WUWT [Watts Up With That] contributor. I discovered a nice twist to the freedom of speech tale. You can say almost anything except yell fire in a crowded room and are free to make a fool of oneself but can’t invoke one’s pedigree to do so i.e. you can state your doctorate or disciplines, but not your college, professional body memberships and imply they agree. So that’s how I’ve been knocking them off by going to their employer, professional registration, professional memberships or their alma mater. I have three scalps lined up now — infant stage But they will collapse like dominoes.​
While liberals collect the “scalps” of those who fail to toe the party line, conservatives continue to play by gentlemanly rules. This asymmetry is one of the dominant political facts of our time.
 





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I believe climate change is real but not worth the scare...it is more like a natural cycle.

But what if the NWO proponents really knew that the wrath of God (Book of Revelations) is fast approaching and think they can discredit the prophesies and down play it with this climate change propaganda? ;)
 





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I believe climate change is real but not worth the scare...it is more like a natural cycle.

But what if the NWO proponents really knew that the wrath of God (Book of Revelations) is fast approaching and think they can discredit the prophesies and down play it with this climate change propaganda? ;)
....is it just me?.... or does it seem as if the state of California, in recent years, has been getting smacked over and over with wildfires, droughts, floods, earthquakes, mudslides and virtually every earthly calamity known to man?
...yet Gavin Newsom, and his ilk in Sacramento, seem unperturbed by any of this happening all around them....

Bay Area sees 1,200 lightning strikes in rare September thunderstorms
By Alix Martichoux, SFGATE
Updated 9:45 am PDT, Tuesday, September 12, 2017
https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/Bay-Area-thunder-lightning-rain-storm-weather-SF-12189916.php#photo-14095379
...77 images in slideshow at link... many are 'hair-raising'....

...every time I hear more 'bad news' out of CA, I wonder to myself, if this might just be a Holy Creator expressing his displeasure, and trying to get their attention, before it's too late?....
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...well... in any event, if I am right, He is leaving them to wallow in their own filth and increasing crime...to their own shame and eternal regret...
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personally i don't, and i don't agree with fear mongering children into thinking the world is gonna end soon either. and it is real and the world ends theirs nothing people can do to stop it. Probably just using it partly as a ploy to turn people into weak vegans so we're easier to control.....
 





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....is it just me?.... or does it seem as if the state of California, in recent years, has been getting smacked over and over with wildfires, droughts, floods, earthquakes, mudslides and virtually every earthly calamity known to man?
...yet Gavin Newsom, and his ilk in Sacramento, seem unperturbed by any of this happening all around them....

Bay Area sees 1,200 lightning strikes in rare September thunderstorms
By Alix Martichoux, SFGATE
Updated 9:45 am PDT, Tuesday, September 12, 2017
https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/Bay-Area-thunder-lightning-rain-storm-weather-SF-12189916.php#photo-14095379
...77 images in slideshow at link... many are 'hair-raising'....

...every time I hear more 'bad news' out of CA, I wonder to myself, if this might just be a Holy Creator expressing his displeasure, and trying to get their attention, before it's too late?....
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...well... in any event, if I am right, He is leaving them to wallow in their own filth and increasing crime...to their own shame and eternal regret...
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Wow...really wished I hadn’t scrolled down to look at that last picture :oops: yuck! Of course...that’s not because people are living in tents on the sidewalk...anyway...

I thought some of California‘s wild fire problem is because they don’t clear out their brush? Which makes a lot of kindling...
 





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The title.
Not only is it real but it’s evident and easy to see, however the North Pole is floating around away from where it once was, and that is having an effect, climate change is of course real but there is little in the way of anything we can do to stop it at this point it will happen and with the sun losing sunspot activity it seems we’re heading much closer to a mini ice age then we are any planetary warming, suns been blank 222 days this year so far already surpassing all of last year getting consecutively worse.

we can try and slow it down and we can try and reduce our footprints but beyond that we will never stop it at this point
 





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personally i don't, and i don't agree with fear mongering children into thinking the world is gonna end soon either. and it is real and the world ends theirs nothing people can do to stop it. Probably just using it partly as a ploy to turn people into weak vegans so we're easier to control.....
Wow...really wished I hadn’t scrolled down to look at that last picture :oops: yuck! Of course...that’s not because people are living in tents on the sidewalk...anyway...

I thought some of California‘s wild fire problem is because they don’t clear out their brush? Which makes a lot of kindling...
They have, but not enough to cause significant changes
 





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It’s amazing to me what sites we all believe are talking truth...

Now its 20 years and the fear mongering drums on. Ya, anything can happen, but is it true that climate change will be the factor that breaks the world? The climate that has been going since the beginning of time, is somehow not gonna get us in the end? Doesn’t seem like it can be true to me...it has gotten us this far.
 





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It’s amazing to me what sites we all believe are talking truth...

Now its 20 years and the fear mongering drums on. Ya, anything can happen, but is it true that climate change will be the factor that breaks the world? The climate that has been going since the beginning of time, is somehow not gonna get us in the end? Doesn’t seem like it can be true to me...it has gotten us this far.
So I didnt see anything in your reply that refutes or conflicts with the pentagons assessment of this situation, is that correct?
 





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