Karlysymon
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I feel bad that important information like is simply going to quickly get lost in a thread like this and if you hadn't tagged me, i might not have bothered to check, so thanks for that. [I'll tag @Serveto because this kind of thing interests him aswell] It also rightly belongs in the christian zionism thread. When the case is made that many of these people are spooks or DOD operatives, people think that we are going off the deep-end but the evidence is there.The "elite" would never believe in something as silly as the rapture. It was the corporate, military, intelligence elite, and corrupt sources who indoctrinated an innocent generation into dispensationalism and other apocalyptic theologies.
Adams explains California's curious history as a leader of post-war social experimentation and cultural engineering. In SoCal the (military) aviation industry played a large role in shaping a demographic whose former Protestant Christian identities were dissolved into a strange melting-pot of liberal and conservative lifestyles.
Southern California in the 40's and 50's had a large number of traditional Churches per population. It was from this base that newer, "revolutionary" gospels aimed at younger people sprung. Adams points out there was a clear intention to break from the "fuddy-duddy" image of the old ways of worship. This was the rise of megachurches as well as microchurches built in basements or an industrial strip. A more exciting version of Jesus and the gospel that leaned toward Charismatic, Pentecostal, or apocalyptic revelation was cultivated. An example of this is Bill Bright's Campus Crusade (who employed Lindsay) at UCLA with a Bible interpretation tailored to hippies and "Jesus Freaks."
It's probably no coincidence that from within a few square miles of LA several of what came to be the largest and most influential Evangelical Churches in the world developed. Chuck Smith's (who wrote the book "End Times" in 1978) Calvary Church in Costa Mesa, and Hal Lindsey's TBN studio also in Costa Mesa; Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral and Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in Orange County. "End-Time cults" would best describe their organizations.
The important take-away from this history is that these figures, along with other establishment Evangelicals gained wealth, notoriety, and then power in American politics starting in the late 1970's. This is the dawn of the Christian right and the CNP, groups amalgamating end-times fantasies and apocalyptic scenarios with foreign policy. @Karlysymon and @vancityeagle have brought these subjects up numerous times. The significance of perpetrators like Paul Cain, Francis Shaeffer, Douglas Coe's "the Family", or Chuck Missler's role as a Christian Zionist, military-industrial spokesperson cannot be underestimated. The entire Evangelical establishment has ties not only to big business but to presidents, spy organizations, the military, etc.The imagination of these psychopaths has helped harm or kill millions of people worldwide. It's a giant subject to unravel but it's important.
I feel bad for my somewhat older friends out there who got caught up in these perverse, warped forms of Christianity. We have to see the American Evangelical movement of the 20th century as just an era of history. Like the rapture theory it will fade away into oblivion. Study the facts and break free from ideological prisons. It's never too late to wake up.
On Rick Warren
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I didn't know any of this back when his book "The purpose driven life" was being talked about by everyone as a must-read (early 2000s and he might not have been a member at that time). I was about to read it but then i heard him make comments on Iran, in line with Washington's ME foreign policy. That ended it for me. I did check, a good while back ,on how the CFR's religious arm functions. They don't get these people on board for nothing. There's obviously a reason. Will post it if i find it.
International Intelligence Briefing??