Dispensationalism is not Biblical, it is a man-made doctrine.

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The Law.

Dispensationalism teaches that from the time of Moses to Jesus' crucifixion was the "Age of the Law." This dispensation was meant for Israel only not the Church (the Church and Israel are the same thing in the New Covenant). Again this not true or from God's Word.

Darby contrasted the age of “Law” with the age of “Grace,” as if mankind ought to stop obeying the law after the cross. That was/is a serious misperception that has justified Christians sinning in the church. But the Bible says “sin is the transgression of the law” (1 John 3:4), i.e. breaking the law. If sin is breaking the law, it means that without the law there is no sin. So, if you say that there is no law any longer after the cross, it means that there are no sinners! Which is untrue.

The Bible tells us that God wrote the Ten commandments (the Law) on tables of stone with His own finger. However God’s law did not start at Sinai in Exodus 20, it started at creation, when God created the Sabbath (Genesis 2:2) and when God instructed Adam & Eve not to eat the fruit of the forbidden tree (Genesis 3:3).

The first 4 commandments have to do with our relationship with God and the last six have to do with our relationship with other people.

After listing God’s law, in Deuteronomy 6, Moses tells the Israelites to “love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength" (verse 5).

Jesus says something similar in Matthew 22 when the Pharisees asked which is the greatest commandment of the Law. He said, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets” (Matthew 22:37-40). These two great commandments are the ten laws summed up. The first four are a reflection of our love for God. The following six have to do with loving God’s people, our neighbours.

While in a relationship with God, keeping the commandments is an expression of our love and devotion to Him. Keeping the commandments will help us grow in our relationship with God and maintain stable relationships with the rest of humanity.

What is the Purpose of God’s Law?

The purpose of God’s law is to protect us from the pain of sin, and the downfalls of selfishness. The decalogue creates a pattern of living that leads to righteous actions, thoughts, and relationships.

On earth there are consequences of sin that affect us now. Trauma, stress, divorce, loss, unhappiness, careless mistakes-—these are only some of the pain we can avoid when we keep God’s law. He wants us to be happy and whole. He wants us to be like Him, to be acceptable in His sight.

The Law that has been passed down from generation to generation and then recorded in the Bible is important to us as Christians. The commandments show us God’s character and love.

Why is God’s law exceedingly important to you personally?

James 2:12,
“Speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.”

Because the Ten Commandment law is the standard by which God examines people in the heavenly judgment.

Can God’s law (the Ten Commandments) ever be changed or abolished?

Luke 16:17,
“It is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.”

Psalm 89:34, “My covenant I will not break, nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.”

Psalm 111:7-8, “All His precepts [commandments] are sure. They stand fast forever and ever.”

No. The Bible is clear that the law of God cannot be changed. The commandments are revealed principles of God’s holy character and are the very foundation of His kingdom. They will be true as long as God exists.

Did Jesus abolish God's law while He was here on earth?

Matthew 5:17-18, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law. … I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. … Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

No, indeed! Jesus specifically asserted that He did not come to destroy the law, but to fulfil (or keep) it. Instead of doing away with the law, Jesus magnified it (Isaiah 42:21) as the perfect guide for holy living. For example, Jesus pointed out that “You shall not murder”, condemns anger “without a cause” (Matthew 5:21-22) and hatred (1 John 3:15), and that lust is a form of adultery (Matthew 5:27-28). He said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15).

Will people who knowingly continue to break God’s commandments be saved?

Romans 6:23,
“The wages of sin is death.”

Isaiah 13:9, “He will destroy its sinners.”

James 2:10, “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.”

The Ten Commandment law guides us into holy living. If we ignore even one of the commandments, we neglect an essential part of the divine blueprint. If only one link of a chain is broken, its entire purpose is undone. The Bible says that when we knowingly break a command of God, we are sinning (James 4:17) because we have refused His will for us. Only those who do His will can enter the kingdom of heaven. Of course, God will forgive anyone who genuinely repents and accepts Christ’s power to change him or her.

Can anyone be saved by keeping the law?

Romans 3:20,
“By the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight.”

Ephesians 2:8-9, “By grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”

No! The answer is too plain to miss. No one has ever or ever will be saved by keeping the law. That includes people in the Old Testament. Salvation comes only through grace, as a free gift of Jesus Christ, and we receive this gift by faith, not by our works. The law serves as a mirror that points out the sin in our lives. Just as a mirror can show you dirt on your face but cannot clean your face, so cleansing and forgiveness from that sin come only through Christ.

Why, then, is the law essential for improving a Christian’s character?

Ecclesiastes 12:13, “Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all [whole duty].”

Romans 3:20, “By the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Because the full pattern, or “whole duty,” for Christian living is contained in God’s law. Like a six-year-old who made his own ruler, measured himself, and told his mother that he was 12 feet tall, our own standards of measure are never safe. We cannot know whether we are sinners unless we look carefully into the perfect standard—God’s law. Many think that doing good works guarantees their salvation even if they ignore keeping the law (Matthew 7:21-23). Hence, they think they are righteous and saved when, in fact, they are sinful and lost. “By this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments” (1 John 2:3).

What enables a truly converted Christian to follow the pattern of God’s law?

Hebrews 8:10, “I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts.”

Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things through Christ.”

Romans 8:3-4, “God did by sending His own Son … that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us.”

Christ not only pardons repentant sinners, He also restores in them the image of God. He brings them into harmony with His law through the power of His indwelling presence. “Thou shalt not” becomes a positive promise that the Christian will not steal, lie, murder, etc., because Jesus lives within us and is in control. God will not change His moral law, but He made a provision through Jesus to change the sinner so we can measure up to that law.

But isn’t a Christian who has faith and is living under grace freed from keeping the law?

Romans 6:14-15,
“Sin shall not have dominion over you: for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin [break the law] because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!”

Romans 3:31, “Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.”

No! The Scriptures teach the very opposite. Grace is like a governor’s pardon to a prisoner. It forgives him, but it does not give him the freedom to break another law. The forgiven person, living under grace, will actually want to keep God’s law in his or her gratitude for salvation. A person who refuses to keep God’s law, saying that he is living under grace, is sorely mistaken!

Are God’s law and Moses’ law the same?

Answer: No—they are not the same.

Moses’ law contained the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added “till the Seed should come,” and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses’ law pointed forward to Christ’s sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God’s law) “stand fast forever and ever” (Psalm 111:8). That there are two laws is made clear in Daniel 9:10-11.

How does the devil feel about people who pattern their lives after God’s Ten Commandments?

Revelation 12:17,
“The dragon [the devil] was enraged with the woman [true church], and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God.”

Revelation 14:12, “Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God.”

The devil hates those who uphold God’s law because the law is a pattern of right living, so it is not surprising that he bitterly opposes all who uphold God’s law. In his war against God’s holy standard, he goes so far as to use religious leaders to deny the Ten Commandments while at the same time upholding the traditions of men. No wonder Jesus said, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? … In vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men” (Matthew 15:3, 9). And David said, “It is time for You to act, O Lord, for they have regarded Your law as void” (Psalm 119:126). Christians must wake up and restore God’s law to its rightful place in their hearts and lives.

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The Millennial Earthly Kingdom of Christ.

The doctrine of the “earthly millennium” is an integral part of dispensation theology.

The question we should ask our selves as Christians is whether or not the Bible clearly teaches a future earthly millennial kingdom of Christ, and the simple answer to that question is “no it does not”.

There is not a single mention of any millennial kingdom in the Old Testament.

There is not a single mention of any millennial kingdom in the gospels or in any New Testament epistle.

Jesus in all his teaching on future events never once made any mention of a millennial kingdom.

The only place in the entire Bible where you will find any reference to a thousand year reign of Christ is found in Revelation 20 and He reigns with the saints. Revelation 20:4 says, “I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. ... And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” And 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 says, "Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? ... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?” The saved from all ages will participate in the judgment during the 1,000 years. The cases of all who are lost, including the devil and his angels, will be reviewed. This will not take place on Earth.

After Jesus returns the second time (once), the saints will meet Him in the air and go back to heaven with Him (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) then they will go to the place Jesus said He had prepared for the saints (John 13:33, 36; 14:2-3).

We have more proof that the 1000 years Jesus spends with the saints in heaven because at the end of the 1000 years the Holy City, New Jerusalem comes down from heaven. “I ... saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. ... And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men’ ” (Revelation 21:2-3). This will be Jesus' third coming to the earth. The second coming will be for His saints, while the third will be with His saints.

The theory of an earthly “millennium” is based entirely upon tradition and assumption.

“It is said that one verse in thirty of the New Testament relates to the second coming of Christ. Yet not one verse refers to a millennial reign upon earth! Not even the Mystical and symbolical “thousand years” of Revelation chapter 20, hints at an earthly Utopia.

The complete silence of the New Testament regarding any earthly “millennium” cannot be ignored.

Likewise not one verse of the Old Testament even hints of a reign of a thousand year duration. This being so, the whole theory of an earthly “millennium” must be based entirely upon tradition and assumption”. (Archibald Hughes. A New Heaven and New Earth. Page 209 & 210).

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False hope of a second chance during the 1,000 years.

If one error could be greater than another, then the doctrine of another opportunity to repent and be saved during the millennium is the greatest of all. As we've established in the previous post, the Bible does not teach an earthly millennium nor is it written of anywhere in the Bible.

First, after we die that will be it. There won't be a second chance for anyone to change their minds on the choices they made while they were alive. The next thing people will realise after death is, if they will be resurrected to eternal life or be resurrected to eternal death.

Second, before the second coming of Christ, probation will close for eternity for this world. Jesus will announce, "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still” (Revelation 22:11). Probation closing means the judgement in heaven will have ended and everyone's eternal destinies will have been decided. There will not be any opportunity to change one’s choice after that.

Third, when Jesus returns, He will return with our rewards, "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be" (Revelation 22:12). He won't reward people who will have a chance to change their minds later. Our eternal destinies will have already been decided before Jesus comes back the second time.

This "second chance" doctrine is satanic. It has made many Christians comfortable in their sin thinking they will have a second chance during the made up earthly millennium. Many are not aware of the magnitude of the error of dispensationalism. Nor do they realise how widespread it is especially through the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible.

The Bible tells us to expose errors because there are thousands of earnest Christians who may be saved from error if the truth is brought home to their hearts.
 
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I have not posted on most of the dispensations (Darby's), the point was to show that it is not God's doctrine. Dispensationalism is inconsistent, fanciful, and lacks scriptural support. The Bible says, "Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened" (1 Corinthians 5:6-7). Biblically leaven means sin and falsehoods. Dispensationalism needs to be purged.

I don't know if Darby, Schofeild and other dispensationalists who started and pushed this false doctrine knew what they were doing, if it was intentional or not. Only God knows the answer to that. If it wasn't intentional, it is clear they did not have prior knowledge of many things in the Bible.

For example, they would never have come up with the rapture theory if they understood ceremonial law, the earthly sanctuary and temple systems, the festivals especially the feast of Tabernacles.

The festivals were observed at the sanctuary in the wilderness and later at the temple in Jerusalem. All were accompanied by sacrifices and offerings. The festivals represented/represent Jesus' ministry, death, what He does in the heavenly Temple as our High Priest and His second coming. Six of the seven festivals of the Sanctuary and two temples have been fulfilled. There is one last festival that needs to be fulfilled, the Feast of Tabernacles, which points to the day of Jesus’ return. All aspects of the sanctuary have been fulfilled, and this is the final event for which we are currently waiting. The dispensationalists who taught/teach about the rapture, misinterpret many of the New Testament statements which presume a prior knowledge of the feast days.

Galatians 1:8-9 says, "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed." Anyone who changes the Gospel or tries to introduce a new way of salvation is a deceiver, and denies that it is Jesus who fulfils these Old Testament symbols. We must be alert to this deep deception that has swept and is sweeping across the world.

If all of us wish to follow the One who is Truth, we should avoid dispensationalism and the confusion that comes with it.

I will end with what Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

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Quotes from dispensationalists.

The Scofield Bible cautions its readers that its teachings are the opposite of those of historic Christianity, those historic teachings being untrustworthy. The reader is told that as he studies the Gospels he must free his mind from the beliefs that the church is the true Israel, and that the Old Testament foreview of the kingdom is fulfilled in the church. Scofield admitted that this belief was "a legacy of Protestant thought" (p. 989).

"In fact, until brought to the fore, through the writings and preaching of a distinguished ex-clergyman, Mr. J. N. Darby, in the early part of the last century, it is scarcely to be found in a single book or sermon through a period of 1600 years! If any doubt this statement, let them search, as the writer has in a measure done, the remarks of the so-called Fathers, both pre and post-Nicene, the theological treatises of the scholastic divines, Roman Catholic writers of all shades of thought; the literature of the Reformation; the sermons and expositions of the Puritans; and the general theological works of the day. He will find the "mystery" conspicuous by its absence."

Of course most of Christianity then and for hundreds of years taught that Israel is the Church. And that is because that is what the Bible taught/teaches too. They didn't make it up from thin air. Paul called Christians “the Israel of God” and “the circumcision” (Galatians 6:16, Philippians 3:3).

The Church/Israel inherited God’s covenant promises. Those who have accepted Christ become the chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God (Compare 1 Peter 2:9-10 with Exodus 19:5-6).

Writing in the introduction of a book by Lewis Sperry Chafer (The Kingdom in History and Prophecy, p. 5) Scofield said:

"Protestant theology has very generally taught that all the kingdom promise, and ever the great Davidic covenant itself, are to be fulfilled in and through the Church. The confusion thus created has been still further darkened by the failure to distinguish the different phases of the kingdom truth indicated by the expression "kingdom of Heaven," and "kingdom of God."

The Kingdom of Heaven is the Kingdom of God. They are the same thing Biblically.

John Walvoord, in an article in Bibliotheca Sacra (Jan.-Mar., 1951 p. 11) points up the fact that his millennial thinking is a departure from that of the great Reformation theologians.

"Reformed-eschatology has been predominantly Amillennial. Most if not all the leaders of the Protestant Reformation were Amillennial in their eschatology, following the teachings of Augustine."

They did not just follow the teachings of Augustine, they followed the Truth of the Bible too which is very clear on the subject.

These quotations serve to prove at least two things concerning dispensational theologians: (1) Their actual contempt for the thinking of historic Christian theologians, and (2) the fact that dispensational doctrines (note: especially their teaching that the church is separate from Israel) are of comparatively recent origin.

Darby wrote into the doctrinal platform of the Brethren one innovation which still marks the dispensational school today. We refer to his disregard of and actual contempt for history. In his book, Prophecy and the Church, p. 26, Allis quotes Darby as having said:

"I do not want history to tell me Nineveh or Babylon is ruined or Jerusalem in the hands of the Gentiles. I do not admit history to be, in any sense, necessary to the understanding of prophecy."

Hence why dispensationalism is heresy. Darby rejected facts and made up a doctrine that sounded better to him but had nothing to do with God and His Truth.

Dispensationalists insist their interpretation is literal, supported by the history and grammar in Scripture. They come to Scripture expecting to see a secret rapture, a seven-year tribulation for the Jews, and a third coming of Christ to establish an earthly thousand-year reign from Jerusalem.

As James M. Efird observes, “If we come to the text already knowing what it is going to say, all we find is what we wish to find…thus the biblical texts are not allowed to speak as originally intended.” James M. Efird, Left Behind? What the Bible Really Says about the End Times (Smyth & Helwys Publishing, 2006): 27. Preview this book online.

Dispensationalism corrupts scripture. Don't get caught up in it.


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Can a red heifer purify us from death today?

The Temple Institute spokesman talked about the red heifer (Numbers 19) and how it is essential to have one in order to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.

He said the "red heifer is the single exclusive universal antidote to the impurity caused by the exposure to death." He also says that it is designed "to bring the world to a new state of connection to the reality of God."

This is Old Covenant thinking, and it assumes the Old Covenant is still valid in the eyes of God. The rabbis do not seem to believe Jeremiah 31:31-34, where the prophet says that the covenant made under Moses was "broken" and that God was going to issue a new covenant. To them, the new covenant is just the old covenant revived.

I can understand Jews believing this, but Christians have no business supporting it, since it totally undermines the work of Jesus Christ, who was the Mediator of the New Covenant.

If God is reviving the Old Covenant, then the means of salvation must also revert back from faith to works. Red heifers must be used once again to obtain "purity" from death (mortality). In other words, we would have to attain immortality through a red heifer instead of through Jesus Christ. Red heifer would allow the replacement of you and me as "temples of God" back to the old external temple in Jerusalem. The Old Jerusalem would replace the New Jerusalem. And the rest of the animal sacrifices would replace the once-for-all sacrifice of Jesus Christ (Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:26-28, 10:10, 1 Peter 3:18).

That is the theology of dispensationalism. Now this theology has become mainstream in Christian evangelical, Pentecostal, Charismatic, and fundamental circles.

There are many ordinary Christians who do not really understand where their denominations and leaders are taking them. They are unaware that they are supporting a system that rejects Jesus Christ. Darby-style Christianity is bringing the Church back under the Old Covenant, with a sanctuary/temple, a Levitical priesthood, and animal sacrifices. In other words, if Darby is right, then Jesus Christ died to provide grace for about 2,000 years, after which time, we will revert back to the Old Covenant.

Should we as Christians really believe that the New Covenant was a temporary feature? Was Jesus Christ's work only good for 2,000 years? Must we all submit to Judaism in the end?

It seems that the Church today has forgotten the Apostle Paul and needs to re-teach true Christianity as opposed to Judaizers. The main theological problem in the first century has arisen again today.


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I posted this in an earlier thread, but I thought I'd post it here too since you've dedicated a thread to the topic, phipps:




E Michael Jones - Sola Scriptura and the Scofield Bible explained in under 3 minutes
 

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I posted this in an earlier thread, but I thought I'd post it here too since you've dedicated a thread to the topic, phipps:




E Michael Jones - Sola Scriptura and the Scofield Bible explained in under 3 minutes
I didn't know Scofield's Bible was printed by Jews. It definitely benefits some Jews for Christian Zionists to think of them as more special than the rest of mankind (just as they think of themselves too). Its a money making scheme too as Christians who believe in the dispensationalist heresy have sent millions, probably billions of dollars to Israel over the years.
 
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I didn't know Scofield's Bible was printed by Jews. It definitely benefits some Jews for Christian Zionists to think of them as more special than the rest of mankind (just as they think of themselves too). Its a money making scheme too as Christians who believe in the dispensationalist heresy have sent millions, probably billions of dollars to Israel over the years.
Yes, it does explain much. There are many rabbis against it as well. As rabbi Aharon Birkas has stated, "Zionism is the work of Satan". However, when rabbis oppose it and explain how it's duped many Christians into believing dispensationalism, they're called self-hating Jews.
 

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Yes, it does explain much. There are many rabbis against it as well. As rabbi Aharon Birkas has stated, "Zionism is the work of Satan". However, when rabbis oppose it and explain how it's duped many Christians into believing dispensationalism, they're called self-hating Jews.
I have heard of rabbis who are against Zionism. I hope and pray that the eyes of Zionist Jews and Christians are opened to this satanic doctrine.
 

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What is dispensationalism? And where did it originate?

Dispensationalism. A method of biblical interpretation first systematically formulated in the 19th. Century by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), dynamic leader of the Plymouth Brethren... Darby developed an elaborate philosophy of history based on biblical prophecy. He divided all history into separate eras or dispensations,... each of which contained a different order by which God worked out his redemptive plan.” J. D. Douglas, editor, New 20th.—Century Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, pg. 266.

“According to Darby, Christians must interpret history in light of seven epochs or “dispensations,” each of which reflects a particular manner in which God deals with humanity. For example, we currently live under the dispensation of “Grace,” whereby people are judged according to their personal relationship with Jesus Christ. This hermeneutical method is called dispensationalism.” Donald Wagner, Evangelicals and Israel: Theological Roots of a Political Alliance, pg. 2.
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The Identity of Israel

One of the most common mistakes in Christendom today especially in dispensationalist Christendom is that the Jews are Israel. But biblically and historically they are not. They are actually Judeans from Judah.

Abraham, had been a Hebrew, because he was descended from Heber, but Abraham was not an Israelite. Isaac, too, was a Hebrew, but not an Israelite. The first time the name “Israel” appears in Scripture is when it was spoken to Jacob after his long night of wrestling with a powerful heavenly stranger who finally said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed”(Genesis 32:28). So the name “Israel” represented his spiritual victory over sin, through wrestling in prayer and claiming God’s grace.

Jacob’s sons were Israelites in the sense that they were sons of the man named Israel. They later moved to Egypt and their descendants multiplied into the 12 tribes, which were later forced into slavery by the Egyptians until the time of Moses. Then God told Pharaoh through Moses, “Israel is my son, even my firstborn ... Let my son go” (Exodus 4:22-23). So the name “Israel” had been expanded to include Jacob’s descendants. Therefore, the name “Israel” first applied to a victorious man, then to his people.

Its important to note that only four kings ruled all 12 tribes of Israel. They were Saul, David, Solomon and Rehoboam. During the rule of Rehoboam the kingdom split in two. The northern kingdom retained the name Israel and had ten tribes in it under their first king Jeroboam. The southern kingdom chose the name Judah which had three tribes in it which included Levi (there were really 13 tribes) that was never really counted as a tribe because they never inherited land because they were priests.

From that point in history, the term Israel took on a restricted meaning, it now was used to distinguish the nation from Judah. In the Bible the prophets also spoke of them as two different nations having two different callings.


Israel Deported by Assyria.

Israel’s first king, Jeroboam, quickly established a pattern of idolatry and syncretism (mixing elements of true and false worship) from which the northern kingdom would never depart (1 Kings 12:26-33). God sent many prophets to warn the Israelite kings of the destruction that would come their way if they didn’t return to Him. They never changed. After just over two centuries of separation, the kingdom of Israel was conquered and deported by the Assyrians. 2 Kings 17:18 says, "Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel, and removed them from His sight; there was none left but the tribe of Judah alone." These ten tribes were scattered all over, they intermarried, adopted the religious practices of the host nations etc. Those ten tribes of Israel would be lost, never to exist ever again. No longer would God allow them to be called Israelites, because their idolatry did not bear witness to the meaning of the name Israel.


Judah follows in Israel’s footsteps

Judah, the southern kingdom took longer to abandon God because they had some righteous kings unlike Israel. But they did abandon God eventually too. They should have learned a lesson from the captivity of the 10 northern tribes of Israel, especially since some of the same Assyrian invasions devastated much of Judah. In Hezekiah’s day virtually all of Judah except for its capital, Jerusalem, was conquered by the Assyrians—and Jerusalem, too, would have fallen had God not supernaturally delivered the city (2 Kings 18-19).

The prophet Isaiah, speaking to Hezekiah, was the first to reveal the specific enemy that would subjugate Judah if they, too, refused to change: “… ‘Behold, the days are coming when all that is in your house, and what your fathers have accumulated until this day, shall be carried to Babylon; nothing shall be left,’ says the LORD. ‘And they shall take away some of your sons who will descend from you, whom you will beget; and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon’ ” (2 Kings 20:16-18).

God sent many other prophets—including Micah, Zephaniah, Habakkuk and Jeremiah—to warn Judah, but to no avail. As the Assyrians vanquished the Israelites in several waves of invasions and deportations, so the Babylonians took away the Jews in several deportations before and after the fall of Jerusalem in 586 B.C. Many details of the biblical accounts of the downfalls of Israel and Judah are confirmed by Assyrian and Babylonian records from the time, demonstrating again the accuracy of the biblical record.


Judah’s exile and return

The outcome of Judah’s exile, however, was far different from that of the northern kingdom. Israel was deported to the far reaches of the Assyrian Empire and its people lost their national and ethnic identity. But God gave Judah an encouraging promise through this prophecy from Jeremiah:

“For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place. For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. I will be found by you, says the LORD, and I will bring you back from your captivity …” (Jeremiah 29:10-14).

Here, too, we find a remarkable prophecy that was fulfilled to the letter. This 70-year period appears to have begun with the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of Solomon’s temple—the centre of Jewish worship—in 586 B.C. and to have concluded with the completion of a new Jerusalem temple in 516 B.C. The biblical books of Ezra and Nehemiah record the return of many of the Jewish exiles from Babylon.


The Jews are not Israel.

The point of this is to show first, that the Jews are not the Israelites. Second, the regathering of Israel, if viewed from a racial or genealogical perspective, is NOT the Zionist state of “Israel.”

One of the basic foundations of modern dispensationalism is the idea that the Jews are the Israelites, and this has given rise to Christian Zionism. The usual assertion is that the Jews are chosen because of their racial heritage. These basic assumptions are wrong, and this means that its entire theological structure is built upon sand.

Daniel’s 70th week is said to be tied firmly to the Israeli state, assumed to be the regathering of Israel. Because they have also made this a purely racial matter, they have made Jews “chosen” without the need to accept Jesus Christ. They are allowed to continue in the Old Covenant as if it were still a valid covenant and not, as Hebrews 8:13 says, "In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." The Old Covenant is "obsolete."

To rebuild a temple in the old Jerusalem and re-establish Jewish traditions of men in a physical temple in Jerusalem, complete with Levites and animal sacrifices, all functioning under a revived Old Covenant is going back to an obsolete covenant. It would be useless, a waste of energy and would not count to Christ at all according to the Bible.


Some of this was taken from my thread True Israel.
 
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The New-Covenant Priest

The book of Hebrews places a heavy emphasis on Jesus as our High Priest in the heavenly sanctuary/temple. In fact, the clearest explanation of the New Covenant found in the New Testament appears in the book of Hebrews with its emphasis on Christ as High Priest. This is no coincidence. Christ’s heavenly ministry is intricately tied to promises of the New Covenant.

The Old Testament sanctuary service was the means by which the Old Covenant truths were taught. It was centred around sacrifice and mediation. Animals were slain, and their blood was mediated by the priests. These, of course, were all symbols of the salvation found only in Jesus. There was no salvation found in them in and of themselves.

However the book of Hebrews tells us, "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins" (Hebrews 10:4).

All these sacrifices, and the priestly mediation that accompanied them, met their fulfilment in Christ. Jesus became the Sacrifice upon which the blood of the New Covenant is based. Christ’s blood ratified the New Covenant, making the Sinaitic covenant and its sacrifices “old” and obsolete. The true sacrifice had been made, once and for all, "He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself" (Hebrews 9:26). Once Christ died, there was no more need for any animals to be slain. The earthly sanctuary services had fulfilled their function. That is why at the very moment Jesus died on the cross the Bible tells us, "And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent" (Matthew 27:51). The veil that separated the holy and most holy rooms in the temple was torn from top to bottom because they ceased to mean anything after Christ died on the cross.

Tied, of course, to these animal sacrifices was the priestly ministry, those Levites who offered and mediated the sacrifices in the earthly sanctuary on behalf of the people. Once the sacrifices ended, the need for their ministry ended, as well. Everything had been fulfilled in Jesus, who now ministers His own blood in the sanctuary/temple in heaven (Hebrews 8:1-5). Hebrews stresses Christ as High Priest in heaven, having entered by shedding His own blood, "Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption" (Hebrews 9:12), mediating in our behalf. This is the foundation of the hope and promise we have in the New Covenant.

The third earthly temple.

That is why building a new earthly temple will be pointless. It will be as useless as the temple was after Christ died before it was destroyed by the Romans in AD70.

Plus the New Testament tells us the earthly temple is already with us here on earth. Ephesians 2:19–22 says, "Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit." (See also 1 Peter 2:5). After the Jews rejected Jesus, He built a new kind of “temple,” and He made it, not with stones, bricks and mortar, but with people—a “living” temple. He promised to live in these people in the same way that His glory filled the temple in ancient times.

Even after God provides all this clear evidence that His temple is a spiritual one, many Christians are waiting for the Jews to receive a construction permit to rebuild a physical temple on the site where a Muslim mosque now sits. However, there is no prophecy, promise, or commandment in the Bible that says the physical temple would ever be rebuilt after the Romans razed it nearly 2,000 years ago.
 

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Dispensationalism is heresy and I've pointed out why in this thread.

- the Bible does not harmonise at all under dispensationalism

- it teaches the Jews are God's favourites and will be saved whether they accept Christ as the Messiah and God or not,

- it separates the church from Israel while the Bible is clear the true church is Israel

- it teaches the false doctrine of the restoration of the Jewish nation at Jerusalem

- it teaches an earthly millennium with Christ ruling which again is not biblical at all

- it teaches the rebuilding of a third temple with all the animal sacrifices reinstated even though the book of Hebrews tells us clearly that Jesus fulfilled those sacrifices, which means it denies and rejects Christ's sacrifice on our behalves

- it teaches the rapture which says that people will be stolen away secretly and quietly to heaven contrary to the Bible

- second chance heresy where people will have a chance to repent during the millennium

- Misconception of the antichrist

- there are no seven dispensations in the Bible (that was completely made up), there is no period of grace biblically, God has always been gracious to mankind, no period of the law either biblically. There was always law.

I could go on and on. The question to ask is "what in dispensationalism is Biblical?"

I believe dispensationalism is satanic and veers Christians away from the true God of the Bible. Most Christians who believe in the heresy of dispensationalism do not know that it is false. However I believe that God is slowly enlightening His people by leading them to the truth of His Word in these end times.
 
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I defintely disagree with the notion of a pre trib rapture as well as God having two different sets of people(Israel & the church), but any teaching that Christians are still under the law is false. The law effected no change and couldnt perfect or reach the heart of those who were under it. That is why Israel was always in rebellion and why we needed a new covenant with focus on the ministration of the holy spirit. The law only makes us a sinner because under it if we sin just once we then break every precept of the law and become a lawbreaker. Its vitally important to understand that concept. If you sin just once you break the whole law. The old covenant was the law and the new covenant is the holy spirit which does what the law could never do which is effect the heart of the christian through regeneration. If you are a new creature in Christ you have the holy spirit who brings supernatural change. The law cant profit you, because its an external set of rules and regulations, ordinances and etc etc. If you fail in just one area of the law you break every single law and become guilty and condemned before God. Why on earth would anyone want to be meaured by such a standard that can only bring death and condemnation? We are justified by faith in Christ alone and we have his perfect righteousness. It is the holy spirit who brings supernatural inner change. The law or trying to keep the law cant do anything. Its either the perfect righteousness of Christ, or nothing.

Obviously we are not to go on living in sin, but if someone is truly a new creature in Christ and been born again he or she cannot go on living in sin indefinitely. The holy spirit does what the law could never do. The law gives us knowledge of sin and is a schoolmaster, but thats it. If there was any moment at all today where you failed to love God with all ur heart or your neighbor as yourself it is game over. That is why its best to ditch this idea that you or anyone keeps the law because you need to keep it perfectly becsuse perfect obediance is needed to go to heaven according to the law. Not partial obedience or almost obeying the whole law, but full obediance without fail.
 
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I think if anything the closer you are to God the more sensitive you are to sin. The more aware you are of sinful attitudes within your heart and judt how big of a sinner you really are apart from him. Pride, covetesness, greed, anger and etc... There are days when I feel ashamed of almost all of of the things in my heart. Thoughts and attitudes can be sinful. If we know what is good and dont do it then it becomes sin. Can most of us really say we love our neighbor as ourself? Do we witness Jesus to them? Do we worry about their salvation like we do our own? If we dont then how can we claim to love them as ourself or love God with all our heart mind and soul? If we asked God how many times we sinned today just in ignorance, indifference, or by omission would he really find no fault?

That is why I cringe at people who say they keep the law or try to enforce the law on others. If you sin just once you break the whole law. You can do everything right for a whole day and if you sin once you broke the entirety of the law. Has God ever put it in your heart to pray but you didnt despite knowing it was God through the holy spirit? That is sin and failing to love God. Sin is transgression from the law. The truth is that even when we think we live a relatively clean life free from some of the more severe and carnal sins we still sin mostly by omission ans in our thoughts and even indifference at times, and in the process break the law every single day. The idea of someone telling others to keep the law when i can promise you that person sins every day is crazy. The law is knowledge of sin to point out to someone the standard in which God will judge them. Its meant to demonstrste guilt and lead someone to realize their need for Christ. If we are in Christ and born again by the spirit of God we are covered by his blood and perfect righteousness. You have a regenerated heart. What can the law do? If you meaure urself by the law it will only point out how big of a sinner you really are. That is all it can ever do. Go to God and ask him how many times you sinned today and if there has ever been a day since coming to Christ where you have kept the law perfectly.
 
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Dispensationalism is heresy and I've pointed out why in this thread.

- the Bible does not harmonise at all under dispensationalism

- it teaches the Jews are God's favourites and will be saved whether they accept Christ as the Messiah and God or not,

- it separates the church from Israel while the Bible is clear the true church is Israel

- it teaches the false doctrine of the restoration of the Jewish nation at Jerusalem

- it teaches an earthly millennium with Christ ruling which again is not biblical at all

- it teaches the rebuilding of a third temple with all the animal sacrifices reinstated even though the book of Hebrews tells us clearly that Jesus fulfilled those sacrifices, which means it denies and rejects Christ's sacrifice on our behalves

- it teaches the rapture which says that people will be stolen away secretly and quietly to heaven contrary to the Bible

- second chance heresy where people will have a chance to repent during the millennium

- Misconception of the antichrist

- there are no seven dispensations in the Bible (that was completely made up), there is no period of grace biblically, God has always been gracious to mankind, no period of the law either biblically. There was always law.

I could go on and on. The question to ask is "what in dispensationalism is Biblical?"

I believe dispensationalism is satanic and veers Christians away from the true God of the Bible. Most Christians who believe in the heresy of dispensationalism do no know that it is false. However I believe that God is slowly enlightening His people by leading them to the truth of His Word in these end times.
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