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Do you believe in the watchmen? Fallen angels who existed extremely long time
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Do you believe in the watchmen? Fallen angels who existed extremely long time
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Let's see what it says about that in God's book.

Genesis 6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.



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Are they associated with evil?
Let's see what it says about that in God's book.


2 Peter 2 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;


Numbers 13 33 There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

Deuteronomy 9 “Hear, O Israel: You are to cross over the Jordan today, and go in to dispossess nations greater and mightier than yourself, cities great and fortified up to heaven, 2 a people great and tall, the descendants of the Anakim, whom you know, and of whom you heard it said, ‘Who can stand before the descendants of Anak?’ 3 Therefore understand today that the Lord your God is He who goes over before you as a consuming fire. He will destroy them and bring them down before you; so you shall drive them out and destroy them quickly, as the Lord has said to you. 4 “Do not think in your heart, after the Lord your God has cast them out before you, saying, ‘Because of my righteousness the Lord has brought me in to possess this land’; but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord is driving them out from before you.


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Do you believe in the watchmen? Fallen angels who existed extremely long time
Ago who taught humanity about practices against God? Aka makeup..smoking pot..
What you're being told here about the sons of God and giants is not true or biblical. The sons of God were human and nothing in the Bible suggests otherwise. Angels cannot procreate with humans. They don't have bodies like we do and they don't have sex organs whether male or female. Angels don't even procreate with each other. They were created not born. Jesus Himself said in Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven."

The Bible doesn't tell us much about these giants (Nephilim) so people have put their own twists on what they think and they are not biblical. There were nothing more than mere men.

I asked a few questions here on another forum that I forget but I never got any answers.

If angels (in this case fallen angels), could procreate with man, why would they stop then and not continue procreating half human half angel beings to this day?

The Bible tells us in the book of Genesis 6:4, "There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." In the next verses, verses 5-7 we are told, "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord."

Not once in those verses does it mention angels fallen or unfallen. They say, "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth." After the sons of God went to the daughters of men, they and their offspring were wicked continually that God regretted creating them. God gave the antediluvians 120 years to change (Genesis 6:3). God told Noah to build the ark and after he was done, God destroyed all of them with the flood except Noah and his family (8 people). Genesis 7.

Would a flood destroy angels who are spirits? Yet the Bible says they were all destroyed.

Would half man, half angles be easily killed by a flood? Where else in the Bible can we find such information to back this up?

What you're being told here about the Nephilim implies they are fallen angels. Why would God call fallen angels "sons of God"? The words "sons of God" are a term of endearment in the Bible, they wouldn't apply to Satan and his angels. Jude verse six explains how these angels have "not kept their first estate”, which would also imply that they have also lost their "sons of God" status along with their exalted positions.
 





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Have u heard of the book of enoch ?
The Bible with all its 66 books and 40 different authors (who some of them did not even live in the same centuries), harmonises from beginning to end. The book of Enoch and the rest of the apocryphal and pseudepigraphical books (what some call the the "Lost books") do not harmonise with the Word of God entirely. A lot of what is written in them is against the Word of God. Half truths do not count when it comes to God's Word. Its all or nothing according to the Bible. Also none of them including the Book of Enoch, claim they were inspired of God.
 





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What are watchmen in the Bible?

In Biblical times God appointed watchmen to keep vigil over the cities of Israel. They were stationed on the walls and commanded to keep an eye out for any imminent danger. This is how the citizens were protected in ancient times. As the watchmen would scan the horizon, if they saw a friendly company approaching, they would yell out, “Everything is alright, all is well!” But if some danger or threat would approach the city, the watchmen would blow the trumpet and call out, “Close the gates. We are under siege!” The people would then run inside the city walls and the gates would be shut. This is how the people were protected – by keeping the enemy at bay.

Ezekiel 33:6, "But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at the watchman’s hand.’"

There is a spiritual application to being a watchman in the Bible.

Watchmen is a word commonly assigned to God’s messengers, his prophets who were called to proclaim a message directly from God to his church to warn them against the wiles of Satan.

Ezekiel 3:17 says, "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; therefore hear a word from My mouth, and give them warning from Me"

And again in Isaiah 62:6: “I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence”

The role of spiritual watchman continues in the New Testament in the form of church leaders. They are supposed to be watchmen on the walls of Zion. This is the same role that God has given to the shepherds. Their job is to protect and keep the flock. They are supposed to be pointing out the spiritual dangers and calling people to come inside the safety of the walls of truth and righteousness.

Isaiah 62:6, "I have set watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem; They shall never hold their peace day or night.You who make mention of the Lord, do not keep silent."

God has always had His watchmen in every generation who have borne messages of warning to the culture of their day. This is how God works. It is no different today. In every age, God has always had a message for both the church and the world in times of crisis. Its important to note that we have to test what is being preached to us. Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

Most of watchmen today are not fulfilling their divinely appointed duties. Too many preachers don’t realize the sacredness of their holy office. Sins go unreproved and the disobedient are not warned. The faithful voice of rebuke is no longer being heard. The watchmen have become men-pleasers, self-indulgent and ease-loving; crying “Peace, peace” when the Lord has not called for peace (Jeremiah 6:14).

Isaiah 56:10-11, “His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb (mute) dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.”

“Jesus Himself never purchased peace by compromise. His heart overflowed with love for the whole human race, but He was never indulgent to their sins. He was too much their friend to remain silent while they were pursuing a course that would ruin their souls,—the souls He had purchased with His own blood. He labored that man should be true to himself, true to his higher and eternal interest. The servants of Christ are called to the same work, and they should beware lest, in seeking to prevent discord, they surrender the truth. They are to ‘follow after the things which make for peace’ (Romans 14:19); but real peace can never be secured by compromising principle. And no man can be true to principle without exciting opposition. A Christianity that is spiritual will be opposed by the children of disobedience” (Desire of Ages, p. 356).

Our Christian witness must become that of a watchmen. God has sent us in this world to warn the people. Our responsibility as watchmen is to announce to all that the Lord is coming soon.

Watchmen are not angels let alone fallen angels in the Bible.
 





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What you're being told here about the sons of God and giants is not true or biblical. The sons of God were human and nothing in the Bible suggests otherwise. Angels cannot procreate with humans. They don't have bodies like we do and they don't have sex organs whether male or female. Angels don't even procreate with each other. They were created not born. Jesus Himself said in Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven."
Those sons of God were not allowed to procreate with women... but as God's book the Bible is trying to inform you...some of the sons of God did it anyway.


Genesis 6 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Amos 2 9Yet it was I who destroyed the Amorite before them, though his height was like that of the cedars, and he was as strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit above and his roots below.

Jude 1 5Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesusa had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.

2 Peter 2 4For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;



The Bible doesn't tell us much about these giants (Nephilim) so people have put their own twists on what they think and they are not biblical. There were nothing more than mere men.
It is you who are twisting God's book the Bible to fit your prejudice.

It's not possible to read these passages and not understand that angels procreated with women.
 





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Those sons of God were not allowed to procreate with women... but as God's book the Bible is trying to inform you...some of the sons of God did it anyway.


Genesis 6 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Amos 2 9Yet it was I who destroyed the Amorite before them, though his height was like that of the cedars, and he was as strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit above and his roots below.

Jude 1 5Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesusa had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.

2 Peter 2 4For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;




It is you who are twisting God's book the Bible to fit your prejudice.

It's not possible to read these passages and not understand that angels procreated with women.
Those sons of God were not allowed to procreate with women... but as God's book the Bible is trying to inform you...some of the sons of God did it anyway.
They did not nor is there any proof of what you're claiming. Angels do not procreate with themselves or with humans full stop. God did not make an exception for some to do so. The sons of men were human and they were all destroyed during the flood. This is the truth of the Bible not what you're claiming.

Genesis 6 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Amos 2 9Yet it was I who destroyed the Amorite before them, though his height was like that of the cedars, and he was as strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit above and his roots below.

Jude 1 5Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesusa had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.

2 Peter 2 4For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;
Genesis 6:4 doesn't say the giants were angels does it? No! If you had read and understood what I posted you would have understood that after the sons of men procreated with the daughters of men, they and their offspring were continually evil is action and thoughts according to Genesis 6. Genesis 6:7 says, "So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” Did you see that, they are called man NOT angels.

Again does Amos 2:9 say the Amorite was an angel, it just tells us the height of the giant.

The Bible tells us of another giant, Goliath who was 9ft tall. Are you suggesting he was an angel? Because he was a giant?

You are wrong about what Jude:5-6 and 2 Peter 2:4 mean. They don't means that the angels are in hell and in chains of darkness right now. You should know that Satan and his angels are not hell yet. Here is what the Bible says:

In Genesis 3 Satan tempts Adam and Eve. Could he do that while in hell and in chains?

In Mark 1:13 Satan was in the wilderness and tempted Jesus while he fasted and prayed for 40 days.

Revelation 12:9, "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Can Satan and his angels deceive the whole world while in hell and in chains?

Revelation 16:14, "For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." This is talking about the fallen angels. Can they perform signs, and gather the whole world to battle while in hell and in chains?

In fact the Bible tells us in Revelation 20:1-3, "Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while." After Jesus comes back the second time for His people, He will take them to heaven with Him for 1000 years, during that time Satan is going to be bound in the bottomless pit. That will be him and all the fallen angels. So is the Bible contradicting itself?

Revelation 20:7 says, "Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison." He is not in hell yet at this point. Hell comes later when he and the wicked attack the holy city and fire will rain down from heaven. Revelation 20:7-9.

Peter was simply saying as does the book of Jude, that the fate of evil angels is fixed. No matter what happens they are doomed.

It is you who are twisting God's book the Bible to fit your prejudice.
You know I haven't twisted God's Word to fit my prejudice. Its you who is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 100. Do not add words to the Bible. Let the Word of God explain itself. And you will see that angles do not and cannot procreate nor does the Bible say so. This is the truth whether you agree with it or not.
 





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They did not nor is there any proof of what you're claiming. Angels do not procreate with themselves or humans full stop. The sons of men were human and they were all destroyed during the flood. This is the truth of the Bible not what you're claiming.
It's not possible to read these passages and not understand that angels procreated with women.

Just as it's not possible to study the Bible and not understand that God foretold the return of the Jews to His land.


Therefore you are at best seriously lacking in knowledge and understanding.

But seeing how you so stubbornly oppose those crystal clear bible truths there might be something more sinister going on... like you being a gov troll... which this forum is just about entirely made up of by the way.

As i said it's not possible to study the Bible and reject that angels had sex with women.

So you are either a gov troll or an incredible stubborn and arrogant woman full of pride and prejudice.

And i don't know which is worse.
 





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Genesis 6:4 doesn't say the giants were angels does it? No!
Neither have i said that the giants were angels.

As the verse says the giants were the children of the sons of God procreating with women.


Who were the sons of God ?

Job 1 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.

Well the sons of God came to visit God.

So the sons of God are obviously angels or heavenly beings if you will.


And some of them had sex with women as the Bible crystal clearly states. And since they were not allowed or rather forbidden to do this God cast and chained those who did in Tartarus. Not all sons of God procreated with women and Satan obviously did not... else also he would be chained in Tartarus.

The giants were the children of sons of God and women... tall as cedars and strong as oaks as the Bible says when God destroyed them during the conquest of Canaan.

About 500 years later at the time of king David... there were still giants like Goliath but they were not that big as the giants before. And they had six fingers interestingly enough. Perhaps a trait of this hybrid species ? Yes it is !


Also this is probably not in your knowledge base but six digits tall people used to be royalty of nations. That's right the blue bloods.
 





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It's not possible to read these passages and not understand that angels procreated with women.

Just as it's not possible to study the Bible and not understand that God foretold the return of the Jews to His land.


Therefore you are at best seriously lacking in knowledge and understanding.

Therefore you are at best seriously lacking in knowledge and understanding.
As i said it's not possible to study the Bible and reject that angels had sex with women.

So you are either a gov troll or an incredible stubborn and arrogant woman full of pride and prejudice.

And i don't know which is worse.
It's not possible to read these passages and not understand that angels procreated with women.
Angels did not procreate with women nor is it suggested in the Bible. You are seeing things that aren't in the Bible. Does the Bible tell us that angels have sexual organs? Do angels have children angels? Do they have the same bodies as we do with flesh and blood? You have never answered these questions and that's because you can't. Its a completely made up doctrine and its not backed up by the Bible.

Just as it's not possible to study the Bible and not understand that God foretold the return of the Jews to His land.
Where in the New Testament did God foretell the return of Jews to their land? That is in the Old Testament. The New Testament which is the New Covenant is about both Jews and Gentiles regardless of where they are in the world. The Jews returned to the promised land in the Old Testament so that is the past. Now the only return that the Bible is interested in is the the return of God's people (Jews and Gentiles who accept Jesus as their personal saviour) to heaven and then eventually to the Newly recreated earth. Have you ever listened to the song, "This world is not my home"? Some of the lyrics say, "This world is not my home I'm just a passing through, My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue..." This applies to anyone whether they are Jews or Gentiles now. Jews are no longer a special people and haven't been for 2000 years. We are all special if we accept Jesus as our personal Saviour no matter what race or nation we are from.

1 Peter 2:9, "But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;"

Therefore you are at best seriously lacking in knowledge and understanding.
I don't claim to understand everything in the Bible but I understand that what you're saying is not from the Word of God. You know that too but are stubborn to accept you're wrong.

But seeing how you so stubbornly oppose those crystal clear bible truths there might be something more sinister going on... like you being a gov troll... which this forum is just about entirely made up of by the way.
I oppose your false doctrine. You have not even used scripture to prove your claims. I won't just take your word for it without proof from the Bible. The best you can do is use the book of Enoch which is not scripture. Does what you're doing count as being understanding and knowledgable hmm?

Lol me a government troll? For telling you the truth using scripture? Do you know of any government trolls that do that? Wouldn't they steer people away from truth? They are not into God or His Word and we've a lot of that here Vigilant Citizen haven't we?

How do I know you're not the government troll and you're just projecting what you are on me for what ever reasons? I have never even thought of accusing anyone of that here.

As i said it's not possible to study the Bible and reject that angels had sex with women.
Show me scripture that says angels have sex with humans specifically or you're a liar!

So you are either a gov troll or an incredible stubborn and arrogant woman full of pride and prejudice
Its you who is incredibly stubborn, arrogant and full of prejudice for a doctrine that isn't based on the Bible and is therefore not of God. If you can't see that, then I pray God will make you realise that you're wrong.

And i don't know which is worse.
I'll tell you what's worse. Its someone (you) who claims to be a Christian but believes in a none Christian doctrine that is not from the Word of God, but doesn't even realise it or if they do are too incredibly stubborn, arrogant and full of prejudice to concur they are wrong.

I know I am right about the Nephilim and about the Watchmen according to the Bible and that truth will not change no matter how many accusations you bring at me. There is nothing left to say to you but what you just posted about me is not very Christian is it? Goodbye.
 





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Neither have i said that the giants were angels.

As the verse says the giants were the children of the sons of God procreating with women.


Who were the sons of God ?

Job 1 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.

Well the sons of God came to visit God.

So the sons of God are obviously angels or heavenly beings if you will.


And some of them had sex with women as the Bible crystal clearly states. And since they were not allowed or rather forbidden to do this God cast and chained those who did in Tartarus. Not all sons of God procreated with women and Satan obviously did not... else also he would be chained in Tartarus.

The giants were the children of sons of God and women... tall as cedars and strong as oaks as the Bible says when God destroyed them during the conquest of Canaan.

About 500 years later at the time of king David... there were still giants like Goliath but they were not that big as the giants before. And they had six fingers interestingly enough. Perhaps a trait of this hybrid species ? Yes it is !


Also this is probably not in your knowledge base but six digits tall people used to be royalty of nations. That's right the blue bloods.
I already explained this to you in other forums but you still don't understand but apparently you are the understanding and knowledgable one. Also since I am a government troll according to you, I have nothing more to say to you. Goodbye.
 





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I know I am right about the Nephilim and about the Watchmen according to the Bible and that truth will not change no matter how many accusations you bring at me.
You know you're right ?

You know you're right about angels not procreating with women ? You know you're right about Jesus not promising the return of the Jews to their land ?

You know... ? It's all about you isn't it... and your private interpretations which fit your prejudices.



Genesis 6 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Amos 2 9Yet it was I who destroyed the Amorite before them, though his height was like that of the cedars, and he was as strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit above and his roots below.

Numbers 13 33There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”


It's not possible to read these verses and not understand that the giants were really big beings. Also it's not possible to not understand that such big beings did not come from the normal union between men and women... but as the Bible says from the union between sons of God and women.

And as the Bible says in the book of Job about the sons of God... they visited God.

So it's not possible to not understand that the sons of God were heavenly beings.


So i don't know what your problem is.
 





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Have u heard of the book of enoch ?
I think the Book of Enoch is a compilation of writings, the core of which may have been passed down from antiquity. I watched this very incisive analysis on the whole book, the parts which are clearly fanciful late additions and the core which echoes the same message as Genesis 6...

 





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Do you believe in the watchmen? Fallen angels who existed extremely long time
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Read the whole Book of Enoch in the King of kings' Bible.

Enoch

7:1 It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful (Gen. 6:1-2).
7:2 And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other: Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.
7:3 Then their leader Samyaza said to them; I fear that you may perhaps not be disposed to the performance of this enterprise;
7:4 And that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime.
7:5 But they answered him and said: We all swear;
7:6 And bind ourselves by mutual oaths, that we will not change our intention, but execute our projected undertaking.
7:7 Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual oaths. Their whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, which is the top of Mount Armon.
7:8 That mountain, therefore, they called Armon, because they had sworn upon it, and bound themselves by mutual oaths.
7:9 These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danyal, Azkeel, Sarakuyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them.
7:10 Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantation, and the dividing of roots and trees.
7:11 And they conceiving brought forth giants (Gen. 6:4-6);
7:12 Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labour of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
7:13 So they then turned themselves against men, in order to devour them;
7:14 And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.
7:15 Then the Earth reproved the unrighteous (by the climate and diseases).
8:1 Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, made them see that which was behind them and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered.
8:2 Disrespect increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways.
8:3 Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots;
8:4 Armers taught the solution of pharmacy;
8:5 Barakayal taught the observers of the stars;
8:6 Akibeel taught signs;
8:7 Tamiel taught astronomy;
8:8 And Asaredel taught the motion of the moon.
8:9 And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached to heaven.
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This is something I read about the book of Enoch and I agree with it. Who do we believe Jesus or the book of Enoch?

The Book of Enoch

One quote that I find hard to believe in the so-called “Book of Enoch” is where “when the angels,” (7:2), or “the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children” (7:3), so “they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and trees” (7:10), and supposedly, “the women conceiving brought forth giants” (7:11), and “Whose stature was each three hundred cubits.” (7:12).

Since one cubit is approximately 24 inches, 300 cubits would equal 600 feet!

That’s a bit of a stretch to me, and there has been zero fossil or archaeological evidence of 300 foot humans or angelic-human hybrids. Even stranger since Jesus said the angels don’t marry or aren’t given in marriage (Matt 22:30). Either this extra-biblical book is wrong, or Jesus is. We’re left with no option but to conclude that the Book of Enoch is not inspired and has never been accepted as biblical canon by the Jews or in the canon of Scripture (the Bible), and for a lot more reasons than what’s been given here.

The Book of Enoch might have some interesting historical facts, or it might be inspiring, but it is not inspired by God. If it’s not inspired by God, then we know it’s a product of man. I like to read about history, but if I know that the history book I’m reading has errors in it, it’s not going to be as an enjoyable read any more. Same thing applies to the Book of Enoch. It’s interesting, but so is a lot of fiction.

Apocryphal books are interesting (to some), and have some historical facts, but they are not inspired and they are not trustworthy as theological teachings.


https://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2017/09/06/what-is-the-book-of-enoch-does-it-belong-in-the-bible/
 





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