LittleLady
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Okay, back to the original topic.
Perhaps. I have to study more because there's literally evidence for your view, and for my friends view. Eh, sometimes we just don't get an answer. I suppose what's more important is making sure you do Gods will.Israelites has a broader context than just Jews in the bible. Jews are one of the tribes of Israel, the tribe of Judah. In the book of revelation, part of each of the 12 tribes are saved. So no, according to theology what Christ did was redeem all of fallen humanity, because when Adam fell, the primordial man, human nature was altered, and the word Christ incarnated into flesh to redeem all flesh
Ahh this is why you support Israeli and American soldiers killing babies. For as long as you believe you're saved. Serial killers and rapists must love your religion. Quite the bargain I would say.No, I’m sorry, He wouldn’t be proud of you.
Isaiah 64:6
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
Your good works are like filthy rags to Him...they mean nothing..You must have faith to be saved..you can’t do it yourself, but through the blood of Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Still talking smack I see..Ahh this is why you support Israeli and American soldiers killing babies. For as long as you believe you're saved. Serial killers and rapists must love your religion. Quite the bargain I would say.
I don't see you denouncing it. Must mean it's the truth. Not surprised though seeing as you're already saved so hell with babies especially when it's Americans and Zionists doing it.Still talking smack I see..
Seriously. Leave the thread, you're derailing it. Stop coming into every thread where Lisa dwells in only to talk about this conversation that actually should be either going on in private, or not at all. And Lisa, please, just stop replying to him. My thread is meant to talk about the Israelites with others and have our own individual analyses on it, and because you keep replying to him, you're just derailing the thread even further.Ahh this is why you support Israeli and American soldiers killing babies. For as long as you believe you're saved. Serial killers and rapists must love your religion. Quite the bargain I would say.
I'm...I kind of agree? So you're saying that Jesus came down here to rebel against the worldliness, and made various examples to other people of how to act accordingly to Gods ways? Well, I mean that is one of the main purposes. The other purpose is to offer salvation. Jesus cried out to God as a final example, "God forgive them, for they do not know what they're doing!" We all have different interpretations of this. Mines is he was showing us to forgive, AND he was showing us that he would willingly die to offer salvation, that's literally the whole point of him being on earth. That's why he asked God to forgive them, and allow him to die for their sake. That is then why just before he dies, he says, "It is finished." Now because of his death, salvation is offered with unlimited times of repentance for his people.alot of quotes from a bible, not sure which version or which person wrote it to serve who paid their wages,
personaly i believe jesus was the first rebel, to oppose the system, to make it so everyone were treated the same, treat others the way you want to be treated, and dont be a dick, to show people that these controlling priest just wanted greed and submission of the people, so jesus went to the temple flipped out at the tax collectors and the church, started hanging out with all types of individuals, people started listening, started following and started to question, the rulers were like fuck that, then killed jesus, heck was jesus fully aware he was going to be killed, why did he cry out to his father, asking why he was forsaken,
Yes, I agree with your entire analysis of this, mainly your last paragraph. "ANYONE can be grafted INTO THE TRUE ISRAEL." Yes, and that is why he also offers salvation to the Gentiles which are people of different nations across the entire earth, not just one racial Israelite as you mentioned. I also mentioned this in my main post. I said somewhere, "People are likely going to think that my friend is trying to say only White people will be punished, but that's not true, people of color will be punished as well." So Gods people are not just one main race, I'm aware. Though I'm starting to think it is mainly Black people, Hispanics, Asians, few Whites. I'm thinking that. I'm only bringing race into this due to the fact the Bible has a lot of proof of his people, and the time of colonization and slavery, and the fact he mentioned a lot of times, "House of Israel...," "I will free MY PEOPLE...." verses like that.12 Tribes of Israel Research
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/twelve-tribes-of-israel-info-research-thread.5480/post-284935
Them That Say They are Jews But Are NOT
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/them-which-say-they-are-jews-but-are-not.6663/
The word "British" is a Hebrew word that literally means "the people of the Covenant", i.e. the people Israel.
The 10 "lost" tribes of Israel are the British and American people, along with the Commonwealth countries, Ireland, and the Baltic and Scandinavian states.
The following passages are a brief description of the Israelite NATIONS during the end-times:-
Genesis 35:10-11
35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name [is] Jacob (the Supplanter): thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and He called his name Israel (champion of God).
35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation AND a company of nations SHALL be of thee {B}, and kings SHALL come out of thy loins;
Genesis 48:16-19
48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name [Israel] be named on them (let Ephraim and Manasseh be called Israel), and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
48:17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
48:18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this [is] the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude (Commonwealth) of nations.
The British Throne is UNQUESTIONABLY the Throne of David. There is no other monarchy on planet Earth that rules over multiple nations.
Jeremiah 33:17 For thus saith the "I AM"; David shall never want (lack) a man {A} to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel;
Psalm 89:34-36
89:34 My Covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.
89:35 Once have I sworn by My holiness that I will not lie unto David.
89:36 His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as "the sun" before me.
This does NOT mean that anyone will be "saved" by simply being a racial Israelite. ANYONE can be grafted into TRUE Israel by keeping The Law/Commandments of God with all of one's heart, mind, soul and strength, exactly as it says. Something that very few racial Israelites are doing.
Jesus also said these things:Jesus clearly states he came only for the Israelites. Then we have others, not Jesus, claiming he came for others.
The name "Israel" literally means "Champion of God", i.e. those who champion God's Cause here on Earth. So it really should come as no surprise to anyone that Christ was sent for Israel. The disciples were also COMMANDED to go to the lost sheep (the 10 "lost" tribes) of the "House of Israel"Yes, I agree with your entire analysis of this, mainly your last paragraph. "ANYONE can be grafted INTO THE TRUE ISRAEL." Yes, and that is why he also offers salvation to the Gentiles which are people of different nations across the entire earth, not just one racial Israelite as you mentioned. I also mentioned this in my main post. I said somewhere, "People are likely going to think that my friend is trying to say only White people will be punished, but that's not true, people of color will be punished as well." So Gods people are not just one main race, I'm aware. Though I'm starting to think it is mainly Black people, Hispanics, Asians, few Whites. I'm thinking that. I'm only bringing race into this due to the fact the Bible has a lot of proof of his people, and the time of colonization and slavery, and the fact he mentioned a lot of times, "House of Israel...," "I will free MY PEOPLE...." verses like that.
This is why I'm halfway agreeing with my friend but halfway agreeing with my original view. It's just the fact Jesus specifically says in Matthew 15:24, "I have ONLY been sent to the lost sheep OF Israel." So, there are various Israelites all over the world of different races due to colonization (When I say this, I don't mean just Black people because obviously segregation happened with people of color) which is why Jesus told his people to preach across the nations via the gentiles which ARE various nations.
YES, I finally think we're getting a connection here! The people of Israel are divided into different tribes as you mentioned and gave examples on. Different TRIBES, tribes being another way of saying nation or gentile which is the same thing. So my conclusion is, it's not only just some Hebrew Israelites getting saved, it's also other Israelites of different races that are across the nations or tribes if you will. Took me so long just to explain myself more in detail. So in short, that's the point of us spreading the gospel to the other nations, because the gospel is only for the Israelites of different nations to hear.
Hope you won't mind this being shared, but Jesus was, in fact, the original tax protester/rebel against the system. And proof of that may be found in the following oft-cited passage about taxes (tribute) which apparently few have understood.alot of quotes from a bible, not sure which version or which person wrote it to serve who paid their wages,
personaly i believe jesus was the first rebel, to oppose the system, to make it so everyone were treated the same, treat others the way you want to be treated, and dont be a dick, to show people that these controlling priest just wanted greed and submission of the people, so jesus went to the temple flipped out at the tax collectors and the church, started hanging out with all types of individuals, people started listening, started following and started to question, the rulers were like fuck that, then killed jesus, heck was jesus fully aware he was going to be killed, why did he cry out to his father, asking why he was forsaken,