Daniel's prophecy of seventy weeks

TokiEl

Superstar
Joined
Dec 13, 2017
Messages
5,518
Now we know that the prophetic timeline in Daniel 9 points to the Messiah coming in the spring of 33 AD... but what about the prince who is to come...? According to this prophecy that prince of Rome will usher in the 70th and last week.


Daniel 9 26 “And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.

The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.


27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”



When will the 70th week begin ?

Well a command went forth to restore control over Jerusalem on June 7 1967 during the Six Day War. And so a countdown must commence according to this prophecy from that date... until the prince who is to come...

Count seven weeks as the sixty-two weeks are already spent from June 7 1967... and after the completion of that seven seven years cycle... the prince of Rome will come and confirm a covenant with many.

7x360 weeks from June 7 1967 completed on September 23 2015 the Day of Atonement... so where is the prince who is to come...?


Well here he is.

On September 25 2015 the pope of Rome confirmed the global governance agenda known as the Millennium Development Goals with the Sustainable Development Goals in the United Nations. He even said on that occasion at the UN hq that he came in his own name.


And so the hour is much later than most think.
 






Last edited:
Joined
Mar 14, 2017
Messages
2,965
Well i believe in the prophecy, but i don't believe your interpretation at the end.
Since the jews ought to know who the messiah is, as per the prophecy..then they should know who the false messiah is too.
No, it isn't a pope. It's a jewish messiah, selected by themselves.

Zecheriah 11
5 Then the Lord said to me, “Take again the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16 For I am going to raise up a shepherd over the land who will not care for the lost, or seek the young, or heal the injured, or feed the healthy, but will eat the meat of the choice sheep, tearing off their hooves.
17 “Woe to the worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!
May the sword strike his arm and his right eye!
May his arm be completely withered,
his right eye totally blinded!”


As for the final week of the prophecy.

27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

Titus invaded Jerusalem in 68AD, 35 yrs after Jesus. That's 'half the week'.

The 3.5 days
in the Daniel 9 prophecy it also says
to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place
it hasn't happened yet..but this is it's prophecy
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah+12&version=NIV
This is the Gog & Magog prophecy from Ezekiel 38/39.

where else do we see 3.5 days mentioned?
In Revelation 11, the '2 witnesses' prophecy for 1260 days/42 months and are killed by the false prophet and the world refuses them burial for 3.5 days.
Then

But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.


15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”


I personally believe the 2 witnesses are symbolic of Christianity and ISLAM (capitalising this because i obv know you don't believe that and prob think there are 2 literal prophets).

Looking at it another way. The period of the gentiles, mentioned again in Revelation is 42 months which corresponds to cumulative time muslims have ruled over jerusalem ie 1260 days. I'm beginning with this period specifically because it's from that point muslims marked out the Temple mount, the masjid al aqsa and whilst muslims have ruled over it...they've battled with christians.
42 months=3.5 years.

it makes sense that the false messiah will effectively kill Christianity and islam and the WORLD will celebrate because these religions are the 2 hated religions. judaism would be but it's not large enough for people to really target it.

However the 3.5 days relevant here are from the period the 2 witnesses are killed to them being given the breath of life and the time of Jesus.
 






TokiEl

Superstar
Joined
Dec 13, 2017
Messages
5,518
Well i believe in the prophecy, but i don't believe your interpretation at the end.
Since the jews ought to know who the messiah is, as per the prophecy..then they should know who the false messiah is too.
Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is a specific timeline untl the Messiah... counting seven weeks and sixty-two weeks from the command to restore and build Jerusalem with the wall. That command was given by king Artaxerxes on Nisan in his 20th regnal year according to the book of Nehemiah. And since a week is exactly 360 weeks... this prophecy points to the Messiah coming 7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks counting from Nisan 444 BC... which completed on Nisan 33 AD.

The Jews reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah and so they reject their own Scriptures. They are clueless at best.



No, it isn't a pope. It's a jewish messiah, selected by themselves.
This prophecy not only times the Messiah but also the prince of Rome who is to come... who will usher in the 70th and last week. You may not understand the solution to this prophecy even when shown... but that's on you.
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
You asked the question to @TokiEl not me, I was just wondering what you thought about it.
I mean although I had his post, it was meant for anyone but alright. Yes, I believe it will occur but overall, I kind of don't care as long as I endure to the end and remain saved by serving God for eternity. That is my purpose in life. Everything else in life doesn't matter to me
 






Lisa

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
20,365
I mean although I had his post, it was meant for anyone but alright. Yes, I believe it will occur but overall, I kind of don't care as long as I endure to the end and remain saved by serving God for eternity. That is my purpose in life. Everything else in life doesn't matter to me
Nothing at all matters to you in life? Really?
I am pre-wrath.
 






Joined
Mar 14, 2017
Messages
2,965
Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is a specific timeline untl the Messiah... counting seven weeks and sixty-two weeks from the command to restore and build Jerusalem with the wall. That command was given by king Artaxerxes on Nisan in his 20th regnal year according to the book of Nehemiah. And since a week is exactly 360 weeks... this prophecy points to the Messiah coming 7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks counting from Nisan 444 BC... which completed on Nisan 33 AD.

The Jews reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah and so they reject their own Scriptures. They are clueless at best.




This prophecy not only times the Messiah but also the prince of Rome who is to come... who will usher in the 70th and last week. You may not understand the solution to this prophecy even when shown... but that's on you.
I know about the prophecy man. What i'm saying is, Jesus was 'cut off' if you will at the 69th week right? But it also says
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[h] In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[k]”[l]

So 35 yrs (half a week) after Jesus, 68AD, this part was fulfilled with the destruction of the temple and city. So..you have 3.5days/half a week left in this prophecy.

/for clues, go and read Daniel 7. It foretold the 10 horns, who were the 10 roman emperors for Augustus to Vespasian who ruled over the jews in the temple era. The prophecy foretold the year of 4 emperors here

8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it.

the year of 4 emperors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Four_Emperors
Titus was the 'little horn' because although he did become emperor of rome later, he was the son of vespasian who was emperor at the tim.

YET
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+7&version=NIV
in the prophecy of Daniel 8, it jumps from Titus (the little horn) directly to

13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven.
t
did you purposely choose to ignore the valuable information i provided on the meaning of the final 3.5 days and how it relates to Revelation 11 prophecy, eh the 2 witnesses, their death/resurration which coincides with the second coming of Jesus? and how these 2 witnesses are symbolic of islam and christianity from the AL AQSA era?
Muslims ruled al aqda for 1260 YEARS cumulatively.
1260 yrs=1260 days=42 months=3.5 yrs in prophecy.
however the final 3.5 days in the 70 week prophecy are going to be fulfilled when the antichrist kills these 2 religions and the world celebrates for 3.5days..and then they will be revived and Jesus will descend.


Christians are biased on another level. it isnt so much that i want this to be about islam, it is just that the final 3.5 days prophecy in Rev 11 is about the 'gentiles trampling over the outer court' which is why al aqsa became relevant and how the 2 witnesses them are symbols of islam and christianity. Believe me when i say this..im actually really against muslims attempting to islamify Bible prophecy. i usually read such things and cringe..but in this particular context it is very relevant.
this 70 week prophecy is all about the temple mount.

It also connects with Zechariah 12 and Ezekiel 38/39 which is the Gog & Magog prophecy.
When Jesus returns that will be fulfilled...that's how it connects with Zecheriah 12.

So in terms of timeline
Jesus was crucified on the 69th week. 33-70AD =half a week..that is midway of the final week, the little horn broke the covenant with judea and destroyed the temple
"In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. "
this is not a future prophecy, it is already fulfilled when he destroyed the temple.
The final 3.5 days begin when the 2 witnesses are killed and end when they are resurrected and Jesus returns.
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
Nothing at all matters to you in life? Really?
I am pre-wrath.
When I said nothing in life matters to me, I was being honest. God said to not love the world, or be worldly or love worldly things. Whatever God likes, I like. Whatever God dislikes, I dislike. To be a friend of the world would mean I'm an enemy of God. Society now and days... horrible. Dumbest generation ever. Most likely the final generation considering the times we're in. But yeah, my only purpose in life is to serve God, do his will, endure to the end, and that's it. Forget about the world and what it has to offer, I'm tryna live for God and God only.
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
How do you do that?
I would think you'd already know how after seeing all of your posts (?)
Though, you could be testing me for all I know ;-;

Okay, I'll tell you, but it will be a very long post that will probably get posted like a few hours later because I'm currently in school.
 






Lisa

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
20,365
Though, you could be testing me for all I know ;-;
Just wondering what you mean by living for God and God alone.
You said nothing matters to you in life yet you’re in the bts thread and it looks like with your comments, that it does matter a lot to you.
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
Just wondering what you mean by living for God and God alone.
You said nothing matters to you in life yet you’re in the bts thread and it looks like with your comments, that it does matter a lot to you.
I guess you didn't read my other post because I specifically explained what I meant by that. Go see my other post if you didn't read it, or if you're just missing everything. Secondly, just because I serve God doesn't mean I can't talk about evil. It's not like I'm practicing anything, I'm simply discussing about different celebrities with people because they're apart of something that I, as a Christian need to avoid which means I can talk to others about them, what they do, their methods, what they promote, etc etc.

Plus God himself taught me about the music industry while I was 12 years old. He warns me about certain people, some of which just happens to be bts. If anything, I NEEDED to talk to others about them for my sake, and also give info as they give me theirs.

So finally, I don't know why you seem prideful with your words, but you can stop now. I just explained everything overall. If you still need to ask questions about what I said, I'll have to assume you're a slow learner.
 






Lisa

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
20,365
I guess you didn't read my other post because I specifically explained what I meant by that. Go see my other post if you didn't read it, or if you're just missing everything. Secondly, just because I serve God doesn't mean I can't talk about evil. It's not like I'm practicing anything, I'm simply discussing about different celebrities with people because they're apart of something that I, as a Christian need to avoid which means I can talk to others about them, what they do, their methods, what they promote, etc etc.

Plus God himself taught me about the music industry while I was 12 years old. He warns me about certain people, some of which just happens to be bts. If anything, I NEEDED to talk to others about them for my sake, and also give info as they give me theirs.

So finally, I don't know why you seem prideful with your words, but you can stop now. I just explained everything overall. If you still need to ask questions about what I said, I'll have to assume you're a slow learner.
I may have missed your other post that explains what you meant, I haven’t been able to be on as much this week. I’m not gonna search for it though, you can cut and paste what you wrote on your next reply.

I didn’t say you can’t talk about evil, but it sounded like you were really into them.
Seriously, he's the only guy I kind of feel bad for. Everyone else can get tormented very slowly for all I care. I mean the fact they dare do this? Hm.
Who’s prideful, just asking questions, why do you seem defensive about answering them? .
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
I may have missed your other post that explains what you meant, I haven’t been able to be on as much this week. I’m not gonna search for it though, you can cut and paste what you wrote on your next reply.

I didn’t say you can’t talk about evil, but it sounded like you were really into them.


Who’s prideful, just asking questions, why do you seem defensive about answering them? .
I like how you're using some of my posts with others just to prove your false point.

My question is, do you realize how petty that is? I'm going through something that stays between God and I only, but I'll be happy to discuss it with others as they KNOW what I'm going through. That's the whole point of the other thread, (It gets kind of intimate at times) and what I explained in my last post. I'm not defensive about anything. Lastly, that sentence you got from my post was basically me saying I honestly DON'T care about them, just discussing. Besides, they're sellouts so I mean they're doomed anyways, what can I do?

Oh, and also I'm not gonna feel like slowly explaining what I mean because I get tired of repeating myself. Just re read everything and find out, and if you come to the wrong conclusion or whatever, then okay I don't know what to tell you.

Can you not stalk me on what I've been discussing to others? If you want to know more about me, all you gotta do is sincerely ask.
 






Lisa

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
20,365
I like how you're using some of my posts with others just to prove your false point.
What false point. You said you nothing in life matters to you and then I see you commenting in the bts thread...that anyone can go into and read btw...and it does seem to matter to you.

I'm going through something that stays between God and I only, but I'll be happy to discuss it with others as they KNOW what I'm going through. That's the whole point of the other thread, (It gets kind of intimate at times) and what I explained in my last post. I'm not defensive about anything.
Right...you know that anyone can read that thread right?

Besides, they're sellouts so I mean they're doomed anyways, what can I do?
For a Christian, you seemed quite happy they were doomed...

Oh, and also I'm not gonna feel like slowly explaining what I mean because I get tired of repeating myself.
You just got here..how are you repeating yourself already? :rolleyes: Unless you’ve been here before?

Can you not stalk me on what I've been discussing to others? If you want to know more about me, all you gotta do is sincerely ask.
I’m not stalking you, just asking you sincere questions about what you say.
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
What false point. You said you nothing in life matters to you and then I see you commenting in the bts thread...that anyone can go into and read btw...and it does seem to matter to you.


Right...you know that anyone can read that thread right?


For a Christian, you seemed quite happy they were doomed...


You just got here..how are you repeating yourself already? :rolleyes: Unless you’ve been here before?


I’m not stalking you, just asking you sincere questions about what you say.
Again, I'm not going to restate anything. Yeah, anyone can read that thread but I don't see why you need to go on my profile to do it, so. I'm repeating myself because you're apparently a slow learner, I've been telling you about why I'm saying such and such and yet you keep on asking. For a Christian, I'm feeling both sad and careless that they're going to hell. Sad because of how it had to be, and careless because srsly, I can't do anything. It's not that I'm happy about it, I just kind of don't care. If you seen what they do, you'd realize what I'm talking about. I have mixed emotions which none of them include being happy at the fact they're long gone, but anyways can you get off my profile, and just read the thread without having to go on my profile? That's what I meant, you're using what I'm saying just to prove your point.
 






Lisa

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
20,365
Again, I'm not going to restate anything. Yeah, anyone can read that thread but I don't see why you need to go on my profile to do it, so. I'm repeating myself because you're apparently a slow learner, I've been telling you about why I'm saying such and such and yet you keep on asking. For a Christian, I'm feeling both sad and careless that they're going to hell. Sad because of how it had to be, and careless because srsly, I can't do anything. It's not that I'm happy about it, I just kind of don't care. If you seen what they do, you'd realize what I'm talking about. I have mixed emotions which none of them include being happy at the fact they're long gone, but anyways can you get off my profile, and just read the thread without having to go on my profile? That's what I meant, you're using what I'm saying just to prove your point.
I don’t need to go to your profile to see what you write. I was in the bts thread and saw what you wrote and thought it was strange that you were seemingly involved in the thread when you wrote nothing in life matters to you, which is why I asked you about what you wrote, to get clarification from you.
 






Joined
Oct 13, 2019
Messages
630
I don’t need to go to your profile to see what you write. I was in the bts thread and saw what you wrote and thought it was strange that you were seemingly involved in the thread when you wrote nothing in life matters to you, which is why I asked you about what you wrote, to get clarification from you.
You keep on asking me for clarification, I already told you. And THIS is also the same sentence I keep restating because you just can't see the obvious.

Since I'm getting annoyed at the fact you take a long time realizing something, I'll just restate it one more time, and if you don't get it, I'm not going to keep continuing.

When I said nothing in life matters to me, I was being honest. God said to not love the world, or be worldly or love worldly things. Whatever God likes, I like. Whatever God dislikes, I dislike. To be a friend of the world would mean I'm an enemy of God. Society now and days... horrible. Dumbest generation ever. Most likely the final generation considering the times we're in. But yeah, my only purpose in life is to serve God, do his will, endure to the end, and that's it. Forget about the world and what it has to offer, I'm tryna live for God and God only.

So BASICALLY, this WORLD doesn't matter to me. I am NOT worldly, THAT is what I meant. Life (which is mostly evil because satan is the prince of this world) in THAT way is what doesn't matter to me. Being a servant of God is the only thing that matters and being Gods child doesn't mean I can only learn good things. I also learn what evil is in this world, most of which I know already because God is the one that taught me in the first place, and he will continue to as far as I'm concerned.

Do you understand now?
 






Last edited:
Top