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One of my business ventures went belly up today. I have lost a lot of income but not complaining for I see so many struggling even worse. Another venture is on the brink as well. It will be hard to forgive those who want to extend this madness and not allow society to get going again, but PTB's could care less. They are so ahead of the game on us and have created enough compliant zombie people to make things run smoothly. We are, to some degree, already defeated and now entering a survival stage. And they have yet to really play their tech advancement card on us for the most part. The world economy is about to blow out like never before and we are apt to lose the freedom of communication via the internet when they want to completely blind us to as their plans go on. That means, it is time for action, even though organizing that will be met with death in some cases for they are not going to allow uprisings to last long.

In the meantime, the distractions in the news are five nukes a day on average making it impossible for people to navigate the changes with any prolonged thought. Chaos keeps us divided and there are so many hypnotized and willing to literally sell their souls for their lifestyle past. Unless mass numbers of people cut through the lies, we are in major trouble and could lose contact with one another any day now.
 






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One of my business ventures went belly up today. I have lost a lot of income but not complaining for I see so many struggling even worse. Another venture is on the brink as well. It will be hard to forgive those who want to extend this madness and not allow society to get going again, but PTB's could care less. They are so ahead of the game on us and have created enough compliant zombie people to make things run smoothly. We are, to some degree, already defeated and now entering a survival stage. And they have yet to really play their tech advancement card on us for the most part. The world economy is about to blow out like never before and we are apt to lose the freedom of communication via the internet when they want to completely blind us to as their plans go on. That means, it is time for action, even though organizing that will be met with death in some cases for they are not going to allow uprisings to last long.

In the meantime, the distractions in the news are five nukes a day on average making it impossible for people to navigate the changes with any prolonged thought. Chaos keeps us divided and there are so many hypnotized and willing to literally sell their souls for their lifestyle past. Unless mass numbers of people cut through the lies, we are in major trouble and could lose contact with one another any day now.
Sorry about your business :(
 






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you mean there is something wrong with posting an article that doesn’t make outlandish claims, but does point out that there is right wing funding for this, so that you can clearly see that this is part of a campaign strategy and not part of an organic movement to educate the public?

I have no problem with your assessment. You are right, I don’t support outlandish claims. Thank you for pointing out that this article supports this claim.
Supported by right-wing therefore untrue?

It might've been strategy in light of the GAFA hearing, but it doesn't take away from the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, speaking of which:
It is becoming clear that hydroxychloroquine does not function as a preventative because it is preventing nothing in countries that do use this regularly for treatment and prevention of malaria.
Where's your evidence for this?
 






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We were forced to shut down again in Lebanon for two weeks, but for some reason excluding Tuesday and Wednesday. I honestly don't get it... Numbers are numbers. They will go up and down all the time. You can't just shut down for a week or 2 everytime they go up!

I am super lucky and grateful that as an editor for a publishing company, I am allowed to work from home during lockdown. I only get my transportation fee deducted. Our CEO, despite all of his shortcomings, has actually doubled our salaries the past two months even though there has been no official raise for salaries or a stable dollar rate.

On the news, there is a constant campaign against people who don't believe in the virus or don't think it's as serious as they are telling us, especially during this second wave. I personally remain skeptical, but I have no clue what to believe in. I just don't get all these lockdowns when we only have 4000+ cases and 50+ dead. Is it even worth it even if it's as real & serious as they are claiming it is?

Poverty and unemployment are at an all time high and so is crime and suicide. But it's been like this for a while before this whole virus thing because of the political mess that we've been in since forever. Do they want to make things even worse? It's like we're being distracted by this virus that, at least in my country, is nothing serious. Whatever remnant of the October 2019 attempt at a revolution looks non-existant. At least the protesters had valid reasons to block the roads and shut down the country, unlike this virus.
 






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This whole situation is clearly effecting everyone differently. Our business is booming atm because people are snatching up houses in the woods (fleeing nyc) sight unseen and then needing the whole house remodeled - since were from ny, nj they trust us I guess so we’ve got more work then we can even handle right now. The start up hasn’t launched yet but completely coincidentally fits right in line and is a tech solution for social distancing guidelines So I’m assuming that is going to go well at launch too.

But my personal day job - my hours have been cut to practically nothing which means my raise, benefits and clinical supervision hours for licensing are on hold and if school doesn’t go back in person that hold will be for the foreseeable future. Which is frustrating and inconvenient as hell and if it was my only income would be a ginormous problem. The apartment next door (We live in a duplex and manage the property) has been vacant since April because we can’t rent it because no one has any money.

I think it’s probably smart to keep in mind that this situation has played out very differently for different people and everyone’s opinions/attitudes about it are going to be shaped by their personal experience. sorry if that’s off topic.. it was just my stream of thought on the matter right now.
 






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What was their valid reason?
Basically to condemn the ruling elite and demand that the government be purged from these warmongers who have been in power for years and to start reforms to fix all that their corruption has caused, in addition to extremely high levels of unemployment and no proper access to basic things like electricity and water.
 






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Basically to condemn the ruling elite and demand that the government be purged from these warmongers who have been in power for years and to start reforms to fix all that their corruption has caused, in addition to extremely high levels of unemployment and no proper access to basic things like electricity and water.
And they think that all that will force the warmongers to change? Or are they just hurting themselves?
 






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This whole situation is clearly effecting everyone differently. Our business is booming atm because people are snatching up houses in the woods (fleeing nyc) sight unseen and then needing the whole house remodeled - since were from ny, nj they trust us I guess so we’ve got more work then we can even handle right now. The start up hasn’t launched yet but completely coincidentally fits right in line and is a tech solution for social distancing guidelines So I’m assuming that is going to go well at launch too.

But my personal day job - my hours have been cut to practically nothing which means my raise, benefits and clinical supervision hours for licensing are on hold and if school doesn’t go back in person that hold will be for the foreseeable future. Which is frustrating and inconvenient as hell and if it was my only income would be a ginormous problem. The apartment next door (We live in a duplex and manage the property) has been vacant since April because we can’t rent it because no one has any money.

I think it’s probably smart to keep in mind that this situation has played out very differently for different people and everyone’s opinions/attitudes about it are going to be shaped by their personal experience. sorry if that’s off topic.. it was just my stream of thought on the matter right now.
I'm glad your personal businesses are working out. I think you'll enjoy them more than your chosen field. You're right about it being different for everyone, work/financial has been stellar for me this year...everything else has sucked donkey balls.
 






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And they think that all that will force the warmongers to change? Or are they just hurting themselves?
I guess people have been passive for so long, only complaining without ever doing anything about it. So they just had some of their steam blown I guess. I don't believe anything amounted from the protests, but at least it made people realize that things cannot go on like this and it gave them the illusion that they were united against the elite despite them belonging to different religions and political parties. They were peaceful protests anyway, mostly singing and dancing to patriotic songs or chanting some silly offensive stuff against politicians. So they had their fun!
 






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I guess people have been passive for so long, only complaining without ever doing anything about it. So they just had some of their steam blown I guess. I don't believe anything amounted from the protests, but at least it made people realize that things cannot go on like this and it gave them the illusion that they were united against the elite despite them belonging to different religions and political parties. They were peaceful protests anyway, mostly singing and dancing to patriotic songs or chanting some silly offensive stuff against politicians. So they had their fun!
Didn’t you say they blocked the roads..doesn’t sound peaceful to me..and shut down the country?
 






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They only closed the main highway in some spots and there are many other roads, so people could still make it to wherever they want, they would just be late. Most of them were on the street anyway at the beginning and basically our infrastructure sucks so even a road accident or a bit of rain and the country is paralyzed. I did feel bad for the shops that closed temporarily, but the economy was going downhill anyway and no one was in the mood to be spending money. I personally consider this whole thing to have been peaceful, but it may not seem that way to everyone. Anyway don't want to derail the subject of this thread any further!✌
 






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Supported by right-wing therefore untrue?

It might've been strategy in light of the GAFA hearing, but it doesn't take away from the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, speaking of which:
Where's your evidence for this?
supported by right wing, therefore politically motivated and a sensationalized version of the truth, which I already broke down in a response to Lisa.

“The authors enrolled 821 participants; an illness that was considered to be consistent with Covid-19 developed in 107 participants (13.0%) but was confirmed by polymerase-chain-reaction assay in less than 3% of the participants. The incidence of a new illness compatible with Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants receiving hydroxychloroquine (49 of 414 [11.8%]) and those receiving placebo (58 of 407 [14.3%]). Although participant-reported side effects were significantly more common in those receiving hydroxychloroquine (40.1%) than in those receiving placebo (16.8%), no serious adverse reactions were reported.”

 






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Frontline doctors may as well be a campaign brochure.

“These are the doctors diagnosing, treating and helping patients beat COVID-19," said Jenny Beth Martin – co-founder of Tea Party Patriots, a pro-Trump conservative group that helped organize the event – during the news conference.”


Another gem article about how the trump administration thought there was a political advantage to how they should respond to the coronavirus situation. It is just baffling that they didn’t realize that a different response that would have actually addressed the coronavirus presence would have actually been better for the economy.

winning the November election is far more important though.

 






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Another gem article about how the trump administration thought there was a political advantage to how they should respond to the coronavirus situation. It is just baffling that they didn’t realize that a different response that would have actually addressed the coronavirus presence would have actually been better for the economy.

winning the November election is far more important though.
Lol...why would trump want to wreck his awesome economy? So he could win re-election? :rolleyes:
 






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The economy is trashed. All the stimulus checks, small business loans, and FED quantitative easing did next to nothing. It's just mind-boggling how anyone in the government thinks 1,200 dollar stimulus checks will move the needle at all. Basically there will never be a V-shaped recovery. Mainly because a V-shaped recovery would involve the public getting more than a measly 1200 bucks.

Let's call a spade a spade. There's nothing in the cards to suggest America will get anything besides what I'm calling a "Trickle-down recovery". For the right-wing sycophants, that probably sounds perfect. But it's literally the most tone-deaf illogical shit to happen in the 21st century. The only hope the public has right now is whether or not we are at rock bottom.

If the economy is at rock bottom, we can only go up.
 






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“In the case of Mexico, where they are already working on the development of an edible vaccine in tomato plants against COVID-19..”


Even if a company like moderna is successful in producing a vaccine, how does this translate to requiring a place like Mexico to take this particular vaccine?

if Mexico does take this vaccine, how would they be required to stop their own research on edible vaccines?

if there is no reason to stop their research of an edible vaccine, why would they be forced to continue taking the bill gates approved vaccine if this endeavor was successful?

What i see happening is that the us is not going to be considered a leader in innovation after this and this might cause a major shift in power. Although, I don’t see how it is possible to unify anything close to a universal government unless there is a lot more force enabled than the presence of the virus. It is just not a strong enough force to accomplish something like this on its own even with the effect it has had on the economy. At some point, I also don’t think it will ever be possible, if technology continues to advance and produce something like an edible vaccine.

Something like an edible vaccine would create an economic shift in healthcare too. There is the potential to replace some pharmaceuticals the same way Walmart replaced sears. There is even the potential to downsize healthcare entirely if people could grow their own vaccines. It is not something you could stop if it were a plant either the same way no one has stopped growing marijuana even though it was illegal in many places for a time.

edible vaccines create fascinating opportunities to change many predictions that are regularly made around here.
 






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