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clearly trying to condition people for war with China.
Bruh, you seem to be dipping your domestic political chocolate bar into the geopolitical peanut butter. This does not make a Reese's Cup. It's just a hasty substitute. This propaganda war is mostly just a war of words, mostly. Praytell the advantages of starting a war with China, and by proxy Russia, Iran, North Korea, and anybody else who wants to jump in on their side? Pakistan and India also fit in there somewhere, too. Starting a war among that many nuclear powers would be genocidal. So if genocide is on the table, then that's the ticket for it. Nukes trump virus all day long. After all, "War doesn't prove who's right. Just who's left." -- Uncle Grandpa. Sage advice from a cartoon character in our cartoon world.

Do you think they would just fight WW3 with conventional weaponry? Even if they did, China has the bodies and Russia has the weaponry. Hypersonic missiles? Check. SU-57's? Check. Armata tanks (30 tons and can cross any bridge in Europe)? Check. Emp weapons that can shut-down an entire ship and leave it drifting? Check. Sunburn missiles? Check. All the oil and gas to fight a war with? Check. So while the USA can't even make a fully functioning 5th gen fighter (F35 and F22 have had so many problems that we should be looking into sabotage in the design stages), the Russians are flying next gen SU-57's like something out of a Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X videogame. Not good.

Even the Chinese have upped their aeronautics game and have built stealth fighters and aircraft carriers. Keeping in mind what that Chinese admiral said about winning: he justs needs to sink a couple of US carriers (see: Sunburn missiles.) And in this day and age, that could be entirely possible. And as for the lesson learned in the 'Nam. It's pretty impossible to beat a man that can carry a 70 pound pack, march 30 miles a day, and live and war underground while living on rice. And they will have no qualms about eating your pets if it will keep them marching, and like in 'Nam absolutely ready to die for the cause once the term "imperial invaders" is invoked. The bad part I see in a conflict like this is that the American mainland would surely be attacked this time around.

As for domestic politics, of course the GOP is going to blame it on China, because the Dems are going to try to blame it on them. You are keeping in mind that the house just got through impeaching Trump, and they are still out for blood. The sad irony of that is most likely had they just shut up and rode out the 4 years, ran a candidate that doesn't want to go all neobolshi with their policy views and is at least a decade away from senility, they could have easily beaten Trump the second time. The whole silver lining of his being elected was that Hillary didn't and that he would be a one-termer. Now, I fear that point is moot. Look what the Dem's offer: too radical out of the gate.


I don't know how much war gaming and such you've done, but please explain the advantages of starting a war with a country in which America is heavily invested, holds wads of US debt, has all of the factories which would convert to wartime use, and currently has 2 million people in uniform right now? Oh, and wouldn't we need to check with Israel first? After all, they do gangbuster business with China. China even runs operations at the Port of Haifa. China's Giant bought an AI firm out of Israel for $4.5 bn (that won't be used for militay purposes in the event of, right?) and on and on. So if a war with China were to ensue, is Israel, our "greatest ally," going to declare neutrality? Because if not, then if the sh*t does hit the fan they will be right in the middle of it. Which if the last couple of years of them "dealing with the enemy" (they tried to sell the radar system out of the F-16 to the Chinese under the name Phalcon), is obviously right where they want to be. It's called playing all sides against the middle. A technique developed by Rothschild, inc. and fully in play I would imagine.


Now I have to put on my 12 Monkeys gear and go to the grocery store, I hate wearing it but I'n not not going to wear it anymore. That's just the breaks. Hopefully society can handle this, people need to stay cool, but if not then my best advice would be:

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The sad irony of that is most likely had they just shut up and rode out the 4 years, ran a candidate that doesn't want to go all neobolshi with their policy views and is at least a decade away from senility, they could have easily beaten Trump the second time.
Yep. All they had to do was not be worse than Trump.
 






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...provided that the "inconvenience" will be minimal. However, as it stands now and the current situation, that doesn't appear to be the case.

FWIW, my neighbourhood has MANY geriatrics and they seem to be doing just fine. Granted, I understand my situation isn't a take on the entire world, but they seem to be fine. I actually have to smile at one senior lady who I see regularly, using her grocery cart as a supportive device, walking the neighbourhood as I walk my dog. She waves and smiles and waves at us and all of this doesn't seem to phase her one, single bit. Added to the fact, that I haven't seen or heard any fire trucks, ambulances, coroner's vans in my neighbourhood all while this has been transpiring. Unfortunately, it's somewhat of a natural occurrence, but lately, it's been rather slow. Also my dad is a senior (mid 80's) and he's also doing rather well and is waiting for the library in his neighbourhood to reopen so he can take one of their free computer classes. He and I discuss that we're fortunate that my mum passed away last year because we would've never been able to visit her if she was alive this year given what's happening now.

That said, again, the need for the GLOBAL ECONOMIC SHUTDOWN doesn't seem to make any sense a virus that affects a particular group of people.
man, im sorry for the lost. and i think its different cases for some people, even though i agree to what theyre doing is over the top, we dont really need a lockdown, theyre just trying to get us all traumatized and depressed for their next plan.
my father is old too, he has many conditions but he went out almost everyday and he always comes back home healthier than ever. whats sad is we have to deal with what the media will show us for months, if not, the rest of the year, 2020 is gonna be a one huge circus show.

Three weeks ago:


Two days ago:

am i the only one who doesnt buy the news? they can be false sometimes, after i hopped into the rabbit hole of truth, i have trust issues, do you think the news is a reliable source?
 






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am i the only one who doesnt buy the news? they can be false sometimes, after i hopped into the rabbit hole of truth, i have trust issues, do you think the news is a reliable source?
Depends on where you get your news from. Something that is reported from multiple outlets, with multiple sources confirming, is generally — not always — but generally, somewhat trustworthy.

China has a long history of making inconvenient people disappear, so I don’t need to dig too deep into this particular story.
 






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Bruh, you seem to be dipping your domestic political chocolate bar into the geopolitical peanut butter. This does not make a Reese's Cup. It's just a hasty substitute. Praytell the advantages of starting a war with China, and by proxy Russia, Iran, North Korea, and anybody else who wants to jump in on their side? Pakistan and India also fit in there somewhere, too. Starting a war among that many nuclear powers would be genocidal. So if genocide is on the table, then that's the ticket for it. Nukes trump virus.

Do you think they would just fight WW3 with conventional weaponry? Even if they did, China has the bodies and Russia has the weaponry. Hypersonic missiles? Check. SU-57's? Check. Armata tanks (30 tons and can cross any bridge in Europe)? Check. Emp weapons that can shut-down an entire ship and leave it drifting? Check. Sunburn missiles? Check. So while the USA can't even make a fully functioning 5th gen fighter (F35 and F22 have had so many problems that we should be looking into sabotage in the design stages), the Russians are flying next gen SU-57's like something out of a Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X videogame. Not good. Even the Chinese have upped their aeronautics game and are building aircraft carriers. Keeping in mind what that Chinese admiral said about winning: he justs needs to sink a couple of US carriers (see: Sunburn missiles.) And in this day and age, that could be entirely possible. And as for the lesson learned in the 'Nam. It's pretty impossible to beat a man that can carry a 70 pound pack, march 30 miles a day, and live and war underground while living on rice. And your pets if it will keep them marching, and absolutely ready to die for the cause.

As for domestic politics, of course the GOP is going to blame it on China, because the Dems are going to try to blame it on them. You are keeping in mind that the house just got through impeaching Trump, and they are still out for blood. The sad irony of that is most likely had they just shut up and rode out the 4 years, ran a candidate that doesn't want to go all neobolshi with their policy views and is at least a decade away from senility, they could have easily beaten Trump the second time. The whole silver lining of his being elected was tht Hillary didn't and that he would be a one-termer. Now, I fear that point is moot. Look what the Dem's offer: too radical.


I don't know how much war gaming and such you've done, but please explain the advantages of starting a war with a country in which America is heavily invested, has all of the factories which would convert to wartime use, and currently has 2 million people in uniform right now? Oh, and wouldn't we need to check with Israel first? After all, they do gangbuster business with China. China even runs operations at the Port of Haifa. China's Giant bought an AI firm out of Israel for $4.5 bn and on and on. So if a war with China were to ensue, is Israel, our "greatest ally," going to declare neutrality? Because if not, then if the sh*t does hit the fan they will be right in the middle of it. Which if the last couple of years of them "dealing with the enemy" (they tried to sell the radar system out of the F-16 to the Chinese under the name Phalcon), is obviously right where they want to be. On the side of whoever is winning, most likely. It's called playing all sides against the middle. A technique developed by Rothschild, inc. and fully in play I would imagine.


Now I have to put on my 12 Monkeys gear and go to the grocery store, I hate wearing it but I'n not not going to wear it anymore. That's just the breaks. Hopefully society can handle this, people need to stay cool, but if not then my best advice would be:

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at least youre not wearing a raincoat like what most people at my country are doing lmao they look stupid wearing it, i gotta admit.

Depends on where you get your news from. Something that is reported from multiple outlets, with multiple sources confirming, is generally — not always — but generally, somewhat trustworthy.

China has a long history of making inconvenient people disappear, so I don’t need to dig too deep into this particular story.
if anything, china deserves what has been happening to them, but damn we dont need to get dragged into this shit.
 






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at least youre not wearing a raincoat like what most people at my country are doing lmao they look stupid wearing it, i gotta admit.
I have to admit that I've given thought to wearing my motorcycle helmet because it has a full face shield on it, but for this trip it's an n95 mask, motorcycle goggles and at least one glove as I moonwalk down the aisles...
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...provided that the "inconvenience" will be minimal. However, as it stands now and the current situation, that doesn't appear to be the case.

FWIW, my neighbourhood has MANY geriatrics and they seem to be doing just fine. Granted, I understand my situation isn't a take on the entire world, but they seem to be fine. I actually have to smile at one senior lady who I see regularly, using her grocery cart as a supportive device, walking the neighbourhood as I walk my dog. She waves and smiles at us and all of this doesn't seem to phase her one, single bit. Added to the fact, that I haven't seen or heard any fire trucks, ambulances, coroner's vans in my neighbourhood all while this has been transpiring. Unfortunately, it's somewhat of a natural occurrence, but lately, it's been rather slow. Also my dad is a senior (mid 80's) and he's also doing rather well and is waiting for the library in his neighbourhood to reopen so he can take one of their free computer classes. He and I discuss that we're fortunate that my mum passed away last year because we would've never been able to visit her if she was alive this year given what's happening now.

That said, again, the need for the GLOBAL ECONOMIC SHUTDOWN doesn't seem to make any sense with a virus that affects a particular group of people.
I don’t know where the global economic shutdown is happening. I ordered take out pizza Monday and the only place that is really shut down is the mall and the movie theater right now. There is no global economic shutdown. The only place where that statement applies is in Italy and there is an argument that this is justified. They are entitled to do what they need to in order to protect their own aging population.

im not even stocking up on canned goods right now because I can still go to the store and get fresh foods on a regular basis. If that changes, I might join the party and say this is irrational, but at the moment. It is maybe 50% of the businesses that are being shut down to reduce crowded situations where the virus could spread.
 






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Exclusive: The Military Knew Years Ago That a Coronavirus Was Coming

I think most informed people were expecting something like this, which makes the lack of preparedness of the US — I don’t just mean Trump, I mean the last three or four presidents — pretty shocking.
 






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How come hardly anyone on here is bringing up the possible 5g correlation?
there have been people posting videos but I have a hard time following videos. I’m open, but already leaning against it considering the fact that over 10% of the positive cases in Spain are healthcare workers. To me that says contagious, but I’m open to a written article if you have one.
 






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there have been people posting videos but I have a hard time following videos. I’m open, but already leaning against it considering the fact that over 10% of healthcare workers in Spain are positive. To me that says contagious, but I’m open to a written article if you have one.
I’m not the only one!!!
 






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I’m concerned the election will be canceled as well.
I posted something about it pages back but i saw this again yesterday.
 






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Neither cancer or heart disease come out of no where and kill you quickly. Just saying..
 






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You think that was a good idea though?
No, but it wasn’t as bad as people are making it out to be. Most of the people on the government’s pandemic response team are still working for the government in the field of pandemic response.
 






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Depends on where you get your news from. Something that is reported from multiple outlets, with multiple sources confirming, is generally — not always — but generally, somewhat trustworthy.

China has a long history of making inconvenient people disappear, so I don’t need to dig too deep into this particular story.
I dont like to go by one argument fits all but as a general rule of thumb I would trust what China, Russia, and Iran are saying more than I would trust anything comming from not only any American president, but a specific American president who has set records for LYING. In effect making all previous lying American presidents seem like saints in comparison.

This doesn't mean I trust Iran, China, Russia, but yes I do see them all as a more credible source than Donald Trump and associates.

Forgive me for feeling that way.
 






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I posted something about it pages back but i saw this again yesterday.
Yeah I saw a couple articles regarding the topic in the same vein. Pennsylvania changed its laws to allow everyone to vote by mail, I’m still figuring out the specifics so I can do so. I don’t think many other states will though.. and it makes me nervous. Apparantly the line of succession if the elections don’t happen would make Pelosi president and I don’t like that either
 






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Neither cancer or heart disease come out of no where and kill you quickly. Just saying..
true.

But the vast majority of people dying of Covid 19 have pre existing health conditions that also did not just come out of nowhere.

Heart disease is one of the conditions that dramatically escalates your odds of dying from Covid-19.
 






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