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justjess

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So here’s what I’m looking at..

Italy went into full lockdown over two weeks ago. They say the incubation period is two weeks. Yet Italy’s numbers - both of sick people and dead - are still climbing exponentially. They reported the first cases in my ancestral town a couple days ago.

How? If everything’s locked down and has been for longer then the incubation period how are these numbers still climbing so rapidly and so high? How is the virus still spreading to areas that hadn’t been impacted?

Something isn’t right. And we need to think about that.. the virus isn’t a hoax, I know people who have it and who are in bad shape because of it. So if we take that off the table, what’s left?

I also refuse to accept “people are just stupid and don’t listen” - because again, this is pulling data from a country where that wasn’t an option.
 






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So here’s what I’m looking at..

Italy went into full lockdown over two weeks ago. They say the incubation period is two weeks. Yet Italy’s numbers - both of sick people and dead - are still climbing exponentially. They reported the first cases in my ancestral town a couple days ago.

How? If everything’s locked down and has been for longer then the incubation period how are these numbers still climbing so rapidly and so high? How is the virus still spreading to areas that hadn’t been impacted?

Something isn’t right. And we need to think about that.. the virus isn’t a hoax, I know people who have it and who are in bad shape because of it. So if we take that off the table, what’s left?

I also refuse to accept “people are just stupid and don’t listen” - because again, this is pulling data from a country where that wasn’t an option.
I agree, something isn't right.

Either the incubation is significantly longer than they thought, or lockdown isn't stopping the spread.

I am not sure what that would mean, as I don't know what its like in Italy under lockdown, what precautions are being enforced, what measures taken.

Ultimately it may mean that it is in the air that we breath and on everything we touch.
In which case the purpose of the lockdowns are for everyone to die in place, and make the subsequent clean up easier.
 






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So apparantly hydroxychloroquine is a drug for lupus and lupus patients have been receiving letters saying they can’t get the prescription anymore due to the need for corona patients and “thank you for your sacrifice”
Do you have a source for this? i'd like to read up on it. Because if its true it is super messed up because there is no proof or confirmation that hydroxychloroquine works against corona. Its probably not going to work at all, the very fact that Trump keeps ignorantly pushing it is annoying.

How? If everything’s locked down and has been for longer then the incubation period how are these numbers still climbing so rapidly and so high? How is the virus still spreading to areas that hadn’t been impacted?
As far as the incubation period is concerned, it is the time between virus entering your body and showing symptoms. And it can vary and go upto 15 days in this case and in some people there are no symptoms at all. However, it does NOT mean that the virus in the body will die after 15 days or that it can only live in the body for 15 days.
You could be infected by the virus entering your body in January and then get sick in march. This is the problem of viruses, they can go latent in the body for long times.

That is why italy is showing so many cases, active and proper testing due to better medical facilities. The reason we aren't seeing that in other countries is because they don't have the manpower or the means to actively test people.
 






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Soo, we dont just have field hospitals now, we got military. Theyre erecting the hospital as shown in the video and it will open next week. This explains why they stopped building our hospital. They have been in the process of making the hospital bigger but then they just stopped and it all stood still for quite some time. We never saw any buildings coming up, they only laied the foundation and now we know why, it was for this, its all been planned.

Video below:
 






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There's talk in the news of issuing thousands of virus-testing kits to the public.
What for? I mean if we test positive what are we supposed to do about it?
There is a way of curing it, I linked a video of someone who has and what he did. Look up "How to heal from the corona virus" on bitchute.
 






justjess

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Do you have a source for this? i'd like to read up on it. Because if its true it is super messed up because there is no proof or confirmation that hydroxychloroquine works against corona. Its probably not going to work at all, the very fact that Trump keeps ignorantly pushing it is annoying.



As far as the incubation period is concerned, it is the time between virus entering your body and showing symptoms. And it can vary and go upto 15 days in this case and in some people there are no symptoms at all. However, it does NOT mean that the virus in the body will die after 15 days or that it can only live in the body for 15 days.
You could be infected by the virus entering your body in January and then get sick in march. This is the problem of viruses, they can go latent in the body for long times.

That is why italy is showing so many cases, active and proper testing due to better medical facilities. The reason we aren't seeing that in other countries is because they don't have the manpower or the means to actively test people.

My mom has lupus but apparantly she stopped taking this drug a while ago because she was losing a lot of hair. But that’s the only reason this article even peeked my interest otherwise it would have been lost in the sea of bad news currently upon us.

So you think the incubation period is just longer then we thought in some cases? It feels more nefarious to me then that honestly but I’ll keep looking at the data and watching to see if that makes sense. If that is the case what could cause a virus to be a “sleeper” for so long? Is that natural? Typical? Because I’ve never heard of anything like it.. usually you get sick pretty quickly.
 






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So you think the incubation period is just longer then we thought in some cases? It feels more nefarious to me then that honestly but I’ll keep looking at the data and watching to see if that makes sense. If that is the case what could cause a virus to be a “sleeper” for so long? Is that natural? Typical? Because I’ve never heard of anything like it.. usually you get sick pretty quickly.
Not that I think incubation is longer. You see sometimes virus enters your body it goes latent/sleeps. But when it wakes up, its going to take 2-15 days to infect you and you start showing symptoms. So, you could've come in contact with the virus months ago but since it went latent, you had no idea for a long long time until it reactivates, its incubation period starts and then suddenly you're sick.

Its natural yes and it happens quite alot. Its all dependent on the virus's genome (DNA) replicating once inside a person's cell. Sometimes they manage to do it instantly, other times they just go to sleep for a while. They are still producing stuff needed to replicate in many cases but it is so slow that you don't notice.
It is actually really common in Herpes cases, people can have herpes and not realize for a long time because of a similar phenomenon.


edit: So in simpler words if the virus is active when it enters your cell it can take 2-15 days (in covid's case) to start showing symptoms. If the virus enters your cell and goes latent, then it is going to take 2-15 days FROM when it reactivates in the cell.
 






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Not that I think incubation is longer. You see sometimes virus enters your body it goes latent/sleeps. But when it wakes up, its going to take 2-15 days to infect you and you start showing symptoms. So, you could've come in contact with the virus months ago but since it went latent, you had no idea for a long long time until it reactivates, its incubation period starts and then suddenly you're sick.

Its natural yes and it happens quite alot. Its all dependent on the virus's genome (DNA) replicating once inside a person's cell. Sometimes they manage to do it instantly, other times they just go to sleep for a while. They are still producing stuff needed to replicate in many cases but it is so slow that you don't notice.
It is actually really common in Herpes cases, people can have herpes and not realize for a long time because of a similar phenomenon.


edit: So in simpler words if the virus is active when it enters your cell it can take 2-15 days (in covid's case) to start showing symptoms. If the virus enters your cell and goes latent, then it is going to take 2-15 days FROM when it reactivates in the cell.
If it’s latent can a test detect it?
 






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Saw this on twitter. The places being hit the hardest are current or former massive epicenter of civilizational hot spots: china, persia, rome, and us. What you guys think about it?
 






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I understand people are scared. In essence, we are at war, and I'm not promoting the idea of Johnny down the street being a dick to his neighbor. You talk about calculating, but your calculation ends after being positive and composed.

I don't want my enemies to think I'm composed. I want an enemy to think I'm in terrible shape because the "Art of War" is all about deception. That is an "ultimate truth" we are denying or avoiding with excessive preaching.

One day I'm going to get some people here to stop thinking in such black and white terms. Peace cannot exist without war, and the same is true for every opposite. My point here is not to vilify liars or preachers. My point is that sometimes we have to correct lies by force. Now I will give you that, obviously we should first try to correct lies nicely. But if that doesn't work, the only logical solution is to slowly ramp up the force used.

Let's start by nicely holding *all* leaders accountable.
Sounds like you’re ready to revolt.
Different situations call for composure etc.

Leaders do need to be held accountable. They are ruining people who had jobs. Definitely being conned by congress
 






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So here’s what I’m looking at..

Italy went into full lockdown over two weeks ago. They say the incubation period is two weeks. Yet Italy’s numbers - both of sick people and dead - are still climbing exponentially. They reported the first cases in my ancestral town a couple days ago.

How? If everything’s locked down and has been for longer then the incubation period how are these numbers still climbing so rapidly and so high? How is the virus still spreading to areas that hadn’t been impacted?

Something isn’t right. And we need to think about that.. the virus isn’t a hoax, I know people who have it and who are in bad shape because of it. So if we take that off the table, what’s left?

I also refuse to accept “people are just stupid and don’t listen” - because again, this is pulling data from a country where that wasn’t an option.
Could be it’s lasting longer on surfaces etc.
Figure there are something like 40 mutations of this little booger.

The supposed original strain started in italy, not wuhan and that right there perhaps ravaged italy with a super bug.

There’s a lot of factors that can lead into this considering a lot of carriers are asymptotic.

Something to remember is italy did this in good intention. This was before the lockdown. What’s to say maybe some are asymptotic and still spreading in quarantine etc. There’s just a lot of tangibles right now. Something a lot of us are trying to figure out.

And if we’re dealing with a super bug, chances are even those quarantined are still spreading it
 






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How would you spread it in quarantine. Honest question.

I’m pretty sure whatever strain Italy has is the same strain hitting nyc and nj.
 






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I've heard that, once someone is sick with CV (COVID-19), that it can take as little as 2 weeks to get over it or 2 months (for those critical care, severe cases). If so, no wonder it's still a problem. US isn't going to be reopened by April 12th. Think I heard this from Dr. John Campbell's (British retired nurse w/Ph.D.) channel? I like that he focuses on the whole world and trends.

My dad tried to reassure me with "It's not too bad where we are" (yet cases have significantly increased daily) because too much of the news and frankly checking in here triggers my anxiety. I care about the whole world, not just where I live. So when I see people where I am walking about in public carrying on as normal, it's a bit disconcerting. They could be risking their lives just because they want to use a public park yet hope there's not swarming of the local authorities driving around and saying "stay at home" like in the UK, but yet again maybe there should be? We have "stay at home" signs on major highways and obviously people are ignoring them.
 






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How would you spread it in quarantine. Honest question.

I’m pretty sure whatever strain Italy has is the same strain hitting nyc and nj.
it looks like the number of new cases within the quarantined area are down but they are increasing in the south. Are you asking about the quarantined area itself or the surrounding areas?

im wondering if this is something like herpes myself and whether it can flair from the articles questioning whether someone can get it twice.

This article says people are testing positive after recovering from having the flu. They say this is possibly a false positive. I’m wondering whether it is like having herpes or something that will lie dormant.

 






justjess

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it looks like the number of new cases within the quarantined area are down but they are increasing in the south. Are you asking about the quarantined area itself or the surrounding areas?

im wondering if this is something like herpes myself and whether it can flair from the articles questioning whether someone can get it twice.

This article says people are testing positive after recovering from having the flu. They say this is possibly a false positive. I’m wondering whether it is like having herpes or something that will lie dormant.

The entire country of Italy has been quarantined for fifteen days. Even the south.
 






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