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Not EVERY homo was raped but a majority were........

“Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons.

Tomeo ME, et al. Arch Sex Behav. 2001.
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In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11501300/


..........According to research, it is true.
Do you know what a majority means? It’s not 46% or 22%. That one study is higher than most, I will say that childhood sexual abuse, especially to males is higher in homosexuals but most studies are not as high as that one.

Now at maximum about 8% of the population is gay, but childhood sexual abuse rates are between 16 and 22%, so if abuse made one gay we should have a lot more around.

Now read this article before you go off on a hysterical tangent about gays threatening the childruns.

https://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

“Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).”

So again most pedophiles are straight men done to girls, which isn’t exactly accurate as pedophillia is beyond heterosexual or homosexual attraction in the first place.
 

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Not EVERY homo was raped but a majority were........
You then "evidence" this with figures of 46% of homosexual men and 22% of lesbian women admitted to sexual molestation as children.

I see maths isn't your strong point. By using the word "majority" you have in fact lied, which is a sin isn't it? I think you should hand your golden ticket back.
 
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You then "evidence" this with figures of 46% of homosexual men and 22% of lesbian women admitted to sexual molestation as children.

I see maths isn't your strong point. By using the word "majority" you have in fact lied, which is a sin isn't it? I think you should hand your golden ticket back.
Sorry, I meant majority compared to straight people. It’s called a mistake. Everyone makes them.

I’m sure you would love for me to go to Hell, but I’m already saved.

I do wish you would get saved, too. Despite your contempt for me, I wouldn’t wish Hell on you.
 

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Never said it was a hate crime.. never used those words at all.

Please respond to what I say rather than the figments of your imagination or not at all
 

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Thats the usual stance of your kind, what makes christians homophobic ? I just assumed "if walks like a duck..." you know the rest...
Thanks but i decide for myself to whom to respond , when , and how...
 

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Because telling a person that his lifestyle is wrong and God doesn't approve it is a hate crime...
Rather she's saying it's better to try and help them heal from their traumas rather than telling them how they have lifestyles that God doesn't agree with. We all live or started in lifestyles that He didn't agree with but shoving the gospel down someone's throat that has already probably heard it and heard every slur under the sun isn't going to be receptive to our good news.

This should be where church and community become integral in helping the afflicted come to understand God and help each other over our individual stumbling blocks.

Imagine being molested repeatedly as a child and not understanding that someone took your consent, body, and power to manipulate you for their own sexual gratification. You might choose to live a lifestyle that you believe empowers you, gives you back control, and let's you escape that trauma. Many porn stars have been abused and get into porn to try and reclaim that power in a way that feels right to them.

Giving the gospel isn't hateful but for someone that feels possibly abandoned and hated, who endeavors to live a life where people accept and love them despite how that life may come across to others is their prerogative. If we as Christians aren't willing to do more than give the gospel and can't bear to be around 'Homos' or other undesirables how are we loving our neighbors?

So if church won't allow certain individuals in or try to help them and some rando comes knocking at your, a molested traumatized individual that never fully understood or overcame it, telling you you're living life wrong/God doesn't like your ugly/here's a bible. Who is actually going to be receptive to that type of judgemental message?

So are we going to help the non hetero individual or just give the gospel and go on our way or are we going to invite these individuals into our churches, get to know them and their problems, show them love and respect so that we can help heal them and let them know they aren't alone? We can't really help anyone when cloak ourselves in Christianity to give the gospel but when we remove the cloak in private we let our hate spew out. Life and death are in the power of the tongue and it does us no harm to bear our brothers burden.

Giving a broken person the gospel and no healing or guidance is giving them a hand grenade with the pin pulled.
 

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Rather she's saying it's better to try and help them heal from their traumas rather than telling them how they have lifestyles that God doesn't agree with. We all live or started in lifestyles that He didn't agree with but shoving the gospel down someone's throat that has already probably heard it and heard every slur under the sun isn't going to be receptive to our good news.

This should be where church and community become integral in helping the afflicted come to understand God and help each other over our individual stumbling blocks.

Imagine being molested repeatedly as a child and not understanding that someone took your consent, body, and power to manipulate you for their own sexual gratification. You might choose to live a lifestyle that you believe empowers you, gives you back control, and let's you escape that trauma. Many porn stars have been abused and get into porn to try and reclaim that power in a way that feels right to them.

Giving the gospel isn't hateful but for someone that feels possibly abandoned and hated, who endeavors to live a life where people accept and love them despite how that life may come across to others is their prerogative. If we as Christians aren't willing to do more than give the gospel and can't bear to be around 'Homos' or other undesirables how are we loving our neighbors?

So if church won't allow certain individuals in or try to help them and some rando comes knocking at your, a molested traumatized individual that never fully understood or overcame it, telling you you're living life wrong/God doesn't like your ugly/here's a bible. Who is actually going to be receptive to that type of judgemental message?

So are we going to help the non hetero individual or just give the gospel and go on our way or are we going to invite these individuals into our churches, get to know them and their problems, show them love and respect so that we can help heal them and let them know they aren't alone? We can't really help anyone when cloak ourselves in Christianity to give the gospel but when we remove the cloak in private we let our hate spew out. Life and death are in the power of the tongue and it does us no harm to bear our brothers burden.

Giving a broken person the gospel and no healing or guidance is giving them a hand grenade with the pin pulled.
You said many good things. And i agree with most of it, but regarding church, why they are known as homosexuals before entering it ? If persons motives are sincere she/he shouldn't announce about it in first place. Unless he want attention and cause problems, i believe that it is their main reason. You are believer can you repent sincerely knowing you do exactly the same tomorrow and for the rest of your life. I can't...Doesn't work like that, you must want to change. And homosexuals wan't acceptance, they don't want to change they wan't God to change for them. Thats not going to happen. We are who we are, and our life choices made us that way. But there is a point from which you don't come back. Mass murderer could come back after he killed his first person, but after he killed hundreds some doors become closed, he isn't going to look for them anymore, he doesn't believe it's possible, he forgot they ever existed. Same with the rest of us, same with gays. Different sin same problem. after you repeat it for too long you fail to see anything wrong with it. If a church is truly led by person with anointing who sees person heart and motives and actually can do something useful...good. But for majority of churches it's a disaster. Thats not on gays thats on churches. Compassion is good if it doesn't forces you to forget what is right and what is wrong. But that is exactly what is happening, gays in church = church is fine with homosexual life style, and later marriages and kids. And actual faith is nowhere to be found anymore..
 

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You said many good things. And i agree with most of it, but regarding church, why they are known as homosexuals before entering it ? If persons motives are sincere she/he shouldn't announce about it in first place. Unless he want attention and cause problems, i believe that it is their main reason. You are believer can you repent sincerely knowing you do exactly the same tomorrow and for the rest of your life. I can't...Doesn't work like that, you must want to change. And homosexuals wan't acceptance, they don't want to change they wan't God to change for them. Thats not going to happen. We are who we are, and our life choices made us that way. But there is a point from which you don't come back. Mass murderer could come back after he killed his first person, but after he killed hundreds some doors become closed, he isn't going to look for them anymore, he doesn't believe it's possible, he forgot they ever existed. Same with the rest of us, same with gays. Different sin same problem. after you repeat it for too long you fail to see anything wrong with it. If a church is truly led by person with anointing who sees person heart and motives and actually can do something useful...good. But for majority of churches it's a disaster. Thats not on gays thats on churches. Compassion is good if it doesn't forces you to forget what is right and what is wrong. But that is exactly what is happening, gays in church = church is fine with homosexual life style, and later marriages and kids. And actual faith is nowhere to be found anymore..
We obviously have to be cautious but we don't always know who wants to change or who even wants to change. We don't have to allow individuals in church, this isn't where God resides, it could be prison, our homes, community centers etc.

However it is a lackadaisical attitude when we only give the gospel, try to prove we are right, and judge others. To some extent there are those that want God but don't understand or have had bad experiences with other Christians or just don't like the message but when should know when to leave well enough alone. If people want to know they will ask, if they want help they will ask but judging people and letting them know they are destined for a place they don't even have faith exist is counterproductive.

Would anyone have helped Paul, a serial killer essentially, if not for God's intervention? Jesus didn't just rebuke the Pharisees but simultaneously gave them guidance. Paul wrote letters of guidance despite the issues these various churches had not condemning but to bring the fullness of the word to them. We don't have to be offensive and full of vitriol to get the point across, sometimes just planting the seed is enough and it might not be for us to guide that individual but set them on their journey.

We can't infer what sinners want if we treat them as a plague that will infect everyone. If someone is causing problems they have to leave but if I go to Pastor Vytas or on a Sunday announce my sin and that I want to change does that make me less desirable? If I hide my problems how will you help me? If you judge my problems and assume based off what you believe you know or personal bias, how will you help me? Is our faith in God so weak a few undesirable sinners will be scorned and rejected and our church damned?

Life is already isolating, are we hypocrites to isolate them from the love God has taught us to have? Do we really want to work for God or are we working for ourselves?
 

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Thats the usual stance of your kind, what makes christians homophobic ? I just assumed "if walks like a duck..." you know the rest...
Thanks but i decide for myself to whom to respond , when , and how...
“Your kind” ? What kind is that pray tell?

The jesus is strong in you, I see. :rolleyes:
 

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“Your kind” ? What kind is that pray tell?

The jesus is strong in you, I see. :rolleyes:
Aww did my choice of words offended you ? I totally didn't see that coming, i though my response was adequate for the friendly convo we are having. ( i only have one spare cheek, saving it for better occasion ).
 

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Aww did my choice of words offended you ? I totally didn't see that coming, i though my response was adequate for the friendly convo we are having. ( i only have one spare cheek, saving it for better occasion ).
Would a sarcastic “your kind” offend you? I am seriously bewildered what my kind is... care to elaborate?
 

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We obviously have to be cautious but we don't always know who wants to change or who even wants to change. We don't have to allow individuals in church, this isn't where God resides, it could be prison, our homes, community centers etc.

However it is a lackadaisical attitude when we only give the gospel, try to prove we are right, and judge others. To some extent there are those that want God but don't understand or have had bad experiences with other Christians or just don't like the message but when should know when to leave well enough alone. If people want to know they will ask, if they want help they will ask but judging people and letting them know they are destined for a place they don't even have faith exist is counterproductive.

Would anyone have helped Paul, a serial killer essentially, if not for God's intervention? Jesus didn't just rebuke the Pharisees but simultaneously gave them guidance. Paul wrote letters of guidance despite the issues these various churches had not condemning but to bring the fullness of the word to them. We don't have to be offensive and full of vitriol to get the point across, sometimes just planting the seed is enough and it might not be for us to guide that individual but set them on their journey.

We can't infer what sinners want if we treat them as a plague that will infect everyone. If someone is causing problems they have to leave but if I go to Pastor Vytas or on a Sunday announce my sin and that I want to change does that make me less desirable? If I hide my problems how will you help me? If you judge my problems and assume based off what you believe you know or personal bias, how will you help me? Is our faith in God so weak a few undesirable sinners will be scorned and rejected and our church damned?

Life is already isolating, are we hypocrites to isolate them from the love God has taught us to have? Do we really want to work for God or are we working for ourselves?
I hate/don't believe in God because christians are bad...That attitude is popular here these days. Seems like a pretense for me...Judging has to be objective, and choice of words should be careful. I believe you with your passionless calm demeanor would be perfect for that. Im direct opposite and i im clever enough not to do it, i usually keep my opinion for myself and do not preach. And it's a problem that people who suck at preaching does not realize it, and do more harm than good. Again i have not much to say because i agree with most of what you said, and you position in general. Regardless gays are part of mainstream christianity now, they did not change , we did. They won we lost. Thats the reason why some christians here including me has such an uncompromising attitude, which as i already agreed with you is wrong...
 

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Would a sarcastic “your kind” offend you? I am seriously bewildered what my kind is... care to elaborate?
Beautiful aristocratic woman "kind" :p I still remember how you look like. I had nothing particular in mind. If you need something to calm down, lets just say liberals. Again my response was adequate...I was as respectful and friendly as you were.
 

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I hate/don't believe in God because christians are bad...That attitude is popular here these days. Seems like a pretense for me...Judging has to be objective, and choice of words should be careful. I believe you with your passionless calm demeanor would be perfect for that. Im direct opposite and i im clever enough not to do it, i usually keep my opinion for myself and do not preach. And it's a problem that people who suck at preaching does not realize it, and do more harm than good. Again i have not much to say because i agree with most of what you said, and you position in general. Regardless gays are part of mainstream christianity now, they did not change , we did. They won we lost. Thats the reason why some christians here including me has such an uncompromising attitude, which as i already agreed with you is wrong...
Well it's not solely about the Christian attitude towards things because we represent Christianity but at the same time we don't. If a Christian is giving the gospel then I believe it's that Christian's responsibility to deliver properly with the right attitude internally. Hating Christianity because of Christians disguising themselves as Christians for selfish purposes isn't justification but we don't weed out these individuals we just nod o our heads in agreement because they are delivering the gospel. It shouldn't even be a conversation to be had but it's always happened the wrong things get blamed
 

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You said “that’s the usual stance of your kind” so clearly you had some “kind” in mind... it is what it is man.

I would strongly advise you not to jump to conclusions about what my “kind” may be without asking me directly first.

I truly believe homosexuals deserve empathy, no I do not think it’s “normal” but no one WANTS to live that way. If abuse is a factor then they deserve empathy and support rather than condemnation even more so.


And that’s impressive/interesting... ?? I haven’t posted a picture her in atleast 5 years
 
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Rather she's saying it's better to try and help them heal from their traumas rather than telling them how they have lifestyles that God doesn't agree with. We all live or started in lifestyles that He didn't agree with but shoving the gospel down someone's throat that has already probably heard it and heard every slur under the sun isn't going to be receptive to our good news.

This should be where church and community become integral in helping the afflicted come to understand God and help each other over our individual stumbling blocks.

Imagine being molested repeatedly as a child and not understanding that someone took your consent, body, and power to manipulate you for their own sexual gratification. You might choose to live a lifestyle that you believe empowers you, gives you back control, and let's you escape that trauma. Many porn stars have been abused and get into porn to try and reclaim that power in a way that feels right to them.

Giving the gospel isn't hateful but for someone that feels possibly abandoned and hated, who endeavors to live a life where people accept and love them despite how that life may come across to others is their prerogative. If we as Christians aren't willing to do more than give the gospel and can't bear to be around 'Homos' or other undesirables how are we loving our neighbors?

So if church won't allow certain individuals in or try to help them and some rando comes knocking at your, a molested traumatized individual that never fully understood or overcame it, telling you you're living life wrong/God doesn't like your ugly/here's a bible. Who is actually going to be receptive to that type of judgemental message?

So are we going to help the non hetero individual or just give the gospel and go on our way or are we going to invite these individuals into our churches, get to know them and their problems, show them love and respect so that we can help heal them and let them know they aren't alone? We can't really help anyone when cloak ourselves in Christianity to give the gospel but when we remove the cloak in private we let our hate spew out. Life and death are in the power of the tongue and it does us no harm to bear our brothers burden.

Giving a broken person the gospel and no healing or guidance is giving them a hand grenade with the pin pulled.
Is that what you think soul winning is about?

Spewing “hatred”, judgment & “forcing the Gospel down someone’s throat”?

Literally NONE of that occurs.

First of all, we go out in pairs. We choose a neighborhood & go door to door. If someone answers we smile, are respectful & kind.

We ASK if we can have a moment of their time.

If they say yes, we thank them & ask if they were to die today are they certain they will go to Heaven.

If they say yes, we say that’s great! And ask them why are they going to Heaven? If they respond that they are saved & know it is by grace through faith alone in Jesus Christ, we ask if they can lose their salvation. If they say no, we know that person is genuinely saved & will offer them a free KJB if they don’t already own one, and give them a flyer for our church to join us for services & fellowship.

Then we answer any questions they may ask, thank them for their time & move on to the next house.

If they say no, we (again) ASK if we can show them from the Bible how to be saved.

If they say yes, we thank them again then give them the Gospel.

Answer more questions backing it up with Scripture.

If they say no or not interested, we thank them anyway, wish them a nice day & move on.

There’s no point in railing on them about their sins....most people already realize they are sinners; we all are.

We are there to deliver the Good News(Gospel ) about HOW they can be saved.

That’s it.
 

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Is that what you think soul winning is about?

Spewing “hatred”, judgment & “forcing the Gospel down someone’s throat”?

Literally NONE of that occurs.

First of all, we go out in pairs. We choose a neighborhood & go door to door. If someone answers we smile, are respectful & kind.

We ASK if we can have a moment of their time.

If they say yes, we thank them & ask if they were to die today are they certain they will go to Heaven.

If they say yes, we say that’s great! And ask them why are they going to Heaven? If they respond that they are saved & know it is by grace through faith alone in Jesus Christ, we ask if they can lose their salvation. If they say no, we know that person is genuinely saved & will offer them a free KJB if they don’t already own one, and give them a flyer for our church to join us for services & fellowship.

Then we answer any questions they may ask, thank them for their time & move on to the next house.

If they say no, we (again) ASK if we can show them from the Bible how to be saved.

If they say yes, we thank them again then give them the Gospel.

Answer more questions backing it up with Scripture.

If they say no or not interested, we thank them anyway, wish them a nice day & move on.

There’s no point in railing on them about their sins....most people already realize they are sinners; we all are.

We are there to deliver the Good News(Gospel ) about HOW they can be saved.

That’s it.
Pretty sure I wasn't talking about you. Rather it was a generalization of past experiences from my forced and voluntary time in church or at various jobs.

But thank you for explaining your solicitation practices.
 
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Tennessee man who raped adopted daughter receives only 12 years

“A former pastor who repeatedly raped his adopted teenage daughter has been given an effective 12 year prison sentence.The Knoxville News Sentinel reports prosecutors sought the maximum term of 72 years behind bars. The judge cited David Richards longtime ministry and the support he still receives as mitigating factors.
More than 30 people showed up to support Richards at the sentencing last week.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/whnt.com/2019/05/13/tennessee-man-who-raped-adopted-daughter-receives-only-12-years/amp/

I’d trust a “homo” around children more than any one who claims KKKristianity.
 
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