Converse Launches LGBT Shoe Line Featuring Preteen ‘Drag Kid’

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Well there were times when people think that normalizing homosexuality was absurd, unthinkable and impossible. At least to my great-grandparents to my grandparents era!!
Not remotely equivalent. Gay people are accepted because they're normal people who aren't doing anything wrong. Pedos are not accepted because they abuse and harm children, which is and will always be wrong.
 

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Drag kings are definitely a thing. They’re women who dress up and perform as men. There have been women in drag just as much as men but they have been largely overlooked in current drag culture. And I don’t think drag is done out of mockery, at least not for the majority of people who do it. The history of drag throughout different times and cultures is much more than guys mocking women... that’s not really why drag exists. There definitely sometimes is a problem with sexism and stereotypes in drag but it’s not the primary focus of the art form as a whole. It really just depends on the person who’s doing it and whether they harbor harmful ideas about women or not. And I would say most do not. There are also females who are drag queens as well... they’re not men and I’m sure they don’t hate or mock their own sex.
Okay maybe there are women like that, but theyare certainly a minority and never on tv ( here at least). This while males dramatizing female behaviour are given lots of airtime. I can't unsee the parallels with decadent patriarchal systems anywhere. Roman and Greek slaves, Afghan dancing boys, Turkish harem eunuchs, Thai temple boys etc.

Now coming from me this is not a call to forbid drag or anything, I believe firmly in freedom of expression and lbgtq rights. But personally, drag rubs me the wrong way.
 

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Okay maybe there are women like that, but theyare certainly a minority and never on tv ( here at least). This while males dramatizing female behaviour are given lots of airtime. I can't unsee the parallels with decadent patriarchal systems anywhere. Roman and Greek slaves, Afghan dancing boys, Turkish harem eunuchs, Thai temple boys etc.

Now coming from me this is not a call to forbid drag or anything, I believe firmly in freedom of expression and lbgtq rights. But personally, drag rubs me the wrong way.
Okay. I just wanted to point out that it's not always the case.
 

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Well there were times when people think that normalizing homosexuality was absurd, unthinkable and impossible. At least to my great-grandparents to my grandparents era!!

Who knows what years ahead might bring us because brainwashing and political correctness will justify anything in the name of human rights.

Also cannibalism is soon-ish too I believe because according to scientist it is 'perfectly normal'.

Too early darling, to be arrogant and confident saying that it won't happen.

I hope by then, there are people who able to stand up against it and wont be afraid to be called 'old fashioned' or violating anyone's right.
I study human behavior for a living and am a child abuse specialist. It isn’t going to happen. Don’t worry your simple little brain over it. Seriously.
 

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Not remotely equivalent. Gay people are accepted because they're normal people who aren't doing anything wrong. Pedos are not accepted because they abuse and harm children, which is and will always be wrong.
I study human behavior for a living and am a child abuse specialist. It isn’t going to happen. Don’t worry your simple little brain over it. Seriously.
Lol exactly this. What's unthinkable in the past will become thinkable ~ just sayin

in the future there will be also people saying this the same as you.

Don't worry about my simple brain sweety cuz my brain understand and know things your supposedly non-simple brain cant. ;)
 

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Lol exactly this. What's unthinkable in the past will become thinkable ~ just sayin
Give me one justifiable reason why child abuse should be legalized.

People don't just accept things for no reason... there has to be sound reasoning behind it. So what's one good reason why p***philia should be seen as perfectly acceptable by society at large?

Any attempt at answering this question can easily be refuted because p***philia is fundamentally harmful. Therefore there is no reason to accept it unless you are a p***phile yourself, which the vast majority of people are not.
 
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This past week, the Daily Caller reported that 234 House Democrats and two Republicans... co-sponsored a bill that would force schools to let male athletes who identify as girls to compete on girls’ sports teams. This was billed as an equality bill.
That source is quite biased. They make it seem like the Equality act is specifically about school sports teams when in reality it's simply a bill that protects people against discrimination based upon their gender. People are protected against discrimination based upon race, color, national origin, sex, disability, and religion... but people are not currently protected against discrimination based upon sexual orientation or gender identity. The equality bill would grant the same protections that everyone else has to those two categories as well. So now people would not be fired from their jobs, evicted from their homes, or denied medical care simply because they're gay or transgender. And these things do currently happen to these people at alarming rates.

The Equality Act prohibits discrimination based on an individual’s sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing, credit, education, jury service, federally-funded programs (including health care), and businesses that serve the public. It will also prohibit discrimination against women and girls in public accommodations for the first time in federal law.

Don't forget, it also applies to cisgender and heterosexual people as well, under this bill it would not be legal to discriminate against someone simply because they're straight or cisgender.

And trans girls become physically comparable to cisgender females when they take hormones. They lose a lot of strength/muscle and it generally removes the physical advantage. Trans women actually typically have testosterone levels that are lower than cisgender women's. A point of fairness can certainly be reached. And if they are children, then they are all of generally the same size and ability as each other on average and their bodies have not changed due to hormones. Guidelines can be put in place to make sure that sports are fair for both trans and cis people. The current guidelines from the NCAA, The IOC, and various other sports organizations already state that trans girls who are not on HRT can't compete on competitive women's sports teams but after taking HRT, they can compete fairly. This is a logical approach.
 
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Give me one justifiable reason why child abuse should be legalized.
How am I supposed to know though?

It is a very disgusting and immoral.

The book that I believe called Bible says when Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. (oh gosh I believe GOD! be mad. lol jk)

So yup I don't want to think any thing to answer why Child abuse should be legalize.

What I mean is p***philia not child abuse though. Pedo and Cannibalism.. How come it's suddenly become child abuse? My bad if I didn't address it, I was talking about Pedo and Cannibalism.

For p***philia, a lot of people esp on twitter and other platform like Reddit, Youtube, Discord, etc they have been justifying p***philia as a "sexual orientation" even though also PLENTY of people condemning it, thank goodness. Now just wait until they find a loop hole and ways to normalize it.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/32087-p***philia-being-taught-as-sexual-orientation-in-california-schools
 

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How am I supposed to know though?

It is a very disgusting and immoral.
Exactly... there is no good reason. That's my point.
The book that I believe called Bible says when Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. (oh gosh I believe GOD! be mad. lol jk)

So yup I don't want to think any thing to answer why Child abuse should be legalize.

What I mean is p***philia not child abuse though. Pedo and Cannibalism.. How come it's suddenly become child abuse? My bad if I didn't address it, I was talking about Pedo and Cannibalism.

For p***philia, a lot of people esp on twitter and other platform like Reddit, Youtube, Discord, etc they have been justifying p***philia as a "sexual orientation" even though also PLENTY of people condemning it, thank goodness. Now just wait until they find a loop hole and ways to normalize it.
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Alright AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, my original REPLY TO JESYJESS was about NORMALIZING PEDOPHILLIA so I don't understand WHY suddenly yall saying as if I was talking about CHILD ABUSE.
 

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Lmao you believe this? I feel bad for you. Anyway, like I said there is no justifiable reason to support p***philia therefore no one is going to act like there's nothing wrong with it.. it's quite obviously wrong and unjust to r*pe children.
Alright AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, my original REPLY TO JESYJESS was about NORMALIZING PEDOPHILLIA so I don't understand WHY suddenly yall saying as if I was talking about CHILD ABUSE.
... p***philia is the abuse of a child. It's sexual abuse of a minor. Are you okay?
 

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Lmao you believe this? I feel bad for you. Anyway, like I said there is no justifiable reason to support p***philia therefore no one is going to act like there's nothing wrong with it.. it's quite obviously wrong and unjust.

... p***philia is the abuse of a child. It's sexual abuse of a minor. Are you okay?
Yes p***philia is also child abuse but I'm saying to the point of view of adults who think that it is a sexual orientation. If they believe so, then they shouldnt have thought and said it's sexual orientation.

TEENAGERS, are considered underage. A 30 year old man having sex with children 12-13 year old is considered p***philia. But what if the teenager consent?? Is it considered CHILD ABUSE?

There are a lot of cases p***philia is also child abuse but there are also cases when the child consent, it hard to call that abuse.

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Alright so ok, the article is wrong but it doesnt change that it is being considered and studied. Soon enough will go down the homosexual road.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/health/2018/july/scholar-says-p***philia-is-an-unchangeable-sexual-orientation-and-should-be-accepted-by-society


So as I said again, it will soon find a loop hole and more studies to justify it. That's what I believe. If you don't then, alright. Good on ya mate.

 
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Yes p***philia is also child abuse but I'm saying to the point of view of adults who think that it is a sexual orientation. If they believe so, then they shouldnt have thought and said it's sexual orientation.
It doesn't matter what a small group of p***phile apologists believe. In factual reality, p***philia is not a sexual orientation and it is inherently abusive. Non-pedophiles understand this fact and that's why people do not support it.
There are a lot of cases p***philia is also child abuse but there are also cases when the child consent, it hard to call that abuse.
Are you serious right now? Children can't legally consent. An adult that has sex with a child, regardless of how "willing" that child seemed to be, is committing an act of r*pe and abuse. Children don't have the mental capacity or authority of an adult and it is wrong for adults to take advantage of them. Which is why it will not be made legal to do so.
 
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It doesn't matter what a small group of p***phile apologists believe. In factual reality, p***philia is not a sexual orientation and it is inherently abusive. Non-pedophiles understand this fact and that's why people do not support it.

Are you serious right now? Children can't legally consent. An adult that has sex with a child, regardless of how "willing" that child seemed to be, is committing an act of r*pe and abuse. Children don't have the mental capacity or authority of an adult and it is wrong for adults to take advantage of them.
Well, homosexuality was also started by a group called "minority" or at least that's what they used to call themselves. Minority. A small group.

Well that's your opinion but yours cant represent all people. "seemed" and stuffs, all these things can't represent each person.

Then again as I said before I have to repeat, "What unthinkable today will be thinkable in the future."


Edit: My bad I didn't know "CONSENT" is a legal phrase. Saying english isn't my native language isn't an excuse I should've learned and researched properly about the word consent. The right word should be what mecca said, "willing". However, I do not take back what I just said.
 
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Our brains change and grow based on what do think about and how we think about it. Just as it usually takes years to train our brains to master complex jobs, it takes years to train our brains to think differently about sin habits we have allowed to develop and grow for many years.

- Someone in the Internet and not me.


I'm gonna close my argument about this here.

I DO NOT encourage any kind of form of CHILD ABUSE. I LOATHE IT.

What I was talking about here, I was just saying that in future, it is possible to normalize p***philia (maybe j0hn p0d3st4 and j03 b1d3n would like to say a word LOL JK).
If you don't agree then that's fine. There are things that I phrase it incorrectly and I'm sorry for that. But I have said what I wanted to say and I dont wish to continue this topic, if u wanna do then go for it and whatever it is I won't reply so feel free to state your opinions.

At last, have a good day ;)
 
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People here are arguing that the tolerance of homosexuality will lead to the tolerance of p***philia need to look into why the Slippery Slope argument is considered a logical fallacy.

I mean, if p***philia was normalized, I'd be hard pressed to blame the gays for it. I'd blame the music industry, who sexualized the 17-year-old Brittney Spears in 1998. I'd blame the fashion industry for the provocative clothes it markets to teenaged and younger girls. I'd blame the general idolization of youth as something you should possess. I'd buy capitalism, that sees everything I just mentioned as a product it can profit from.

I wouldn't blame a group of people that were marginalized for hundreds of years. But hey, that's just me...
 

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In order to normalize p***philia you would have to circumvent every single normal inherent parental instinct in existence. It isn’t possible.

Pedophiles spend years grooming their victims - and their parents - to achieve this, and while they might achieve their goal even then it is not accepted by the parents or victims as normal - they are in denial it’s even happening. It is a long complicated process that requires daily intimate interactions. To think that this is possible on some large societal scale is completely and utterly asinine.

We finally have laws outlawing child brides. Finally, as in within the last couple years. This is a clear indication of the tide going the other way of what your claiming.

A 12-13 year old or a 17 year old is not the domain of a p***phile. Pedophiles go after pre pubescent children. In many states 17 year olds have already reached the age of consent. Age of consent is usually 16. There’s no indication of this being lowered, many places are actually increasing their age of consent.

Your own fear is not something to be used as proof of some grand conspiracy. People have been raping children for eons, they have always been and will always be wrong for doing so. They know this which is why they do it in the dark. The internet provides anonymity and a platform for anyone to discuss what they do in the dark openly. You aren’t seeing them on the street corners unmasked shouting about it. They are hiding behind a computer screen... because no one will accept this.
 
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