"Concentration camps-like" migrant youth shelters in the US have taken over 10,000 children.

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The Zone said:
Fair enough. But men with knowledge do not always feel inclined to share. There is a time and place which must not only feel but be right. It will likely come out when you least expect it. FWIW, your retort was much better than I expected considering the admitted sarcasm which is a big step forward for us.
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The only reason you keep hearing about your bold, definitive claim is..... because you brought it up.
 
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Futility said:
This is what is happening to separated kids, no more bullshit about this being for their safety

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/employee-at-arizona-shelter-for-unaccompanied-immigrant-children-charged-with-sexual-molestation.html?via=homepage_recirc_recent
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Exactly, was this the guy with HIV who was molesting kids in these centers or another heinous predator? Either way, where are all these big, tough and gung-ho supporters of the Trump regime and their child-theft now? This thread is suddenly silent of them.......
 
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Migrant children describe neglect at Texas border facility

https://apnews.com/46da2dbe04f54adbb875cfbc06bbc615?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter

“A 2-year-old boy locked in detention wants to be held all the time. A few girls, ages 10 to 15, say they’ve been doing their best to feed and soothe the clingy toddler who was handed to them by a guard days ago. Lawyers warn that kids are taking care of kids, and there’s inadequate food, water and sanitation for the 250 infants, children and teens at the Border Patrol station.”
 
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So they are creating a massive database of people’s dna and no concern about this whatsoever?
 
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It's being terribly exaggerated by the media.






It's not the Four Seasons, but it's not nearly Bergen-Belsen, either.
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I have seen these pictures circulating for a while and it's the only pictures there are. If conditions are this good in all the detention camps, then there would be More pictures out for all to see.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/23/18714699/immigrant-children-soap-toothbrushes-detention-trump-pence-congress.

What about the pictures where children sleeping on the floor with only thin foil blankets to cover themselves? Or the pictures where they appear to be in cages big and small?

Lawyers and a doctor visiting detention centers are appalled by the horrific conditions and the traumatic atmosphere.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doctor-compares-conditions-immigrant-holding-centers-torture-facilities/story?id=63879031
 
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weskrongden said:
That is a sham. These asylum claims have exploded over recent years because these migrants have seen it as a way to game the system. There's a reason most claims are rejected and under catch and release most didn't even show up to their hearing. No, it's clear you're playing right into their agenda. I remember an article from VC himself about how mass migration in Europe was a NWO tactic to undermine sovereignty and sow discord.
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They have exploded in recent years because the situation back at home is out of control. In case you haven't heard about Venezuela, you should look it up. That is Why people have been fleeing their countries, because living conditions are unbearable. They have been told the US is a haven by who? I don't know. Even the mass migration in the eastern hemisphere has its reason. Civil unrests and unbearable conditions make people flee.
 
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They have been told the US is a haven by who?
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119833966192652288

'That’s Why We’re Here': Central American Migrants Say Media Lured Them to US
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201904171074215698-migrants-central-america-us-trump/

Traffickers reap up to $2.3B in illegal immigration, offer 'all-inclusive' packages
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...egal-immigration-offer-all-inclusive-packages

SMUGGLER BRAGS: ‘Never been easier’ to sneak illegals into US
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/migrant-smuggler-never-been-easier-to-sneak-illegals-into-us/

Mexico Refuses To Name International Figures Bankrolling Migrant Caravans
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...national-figures-bankrolling-migrant-caravans

Exclusive–Michael Cutler: Mass Immigration a ‘Cash Cow’ for Ruling Class While ‘Destroying Middle Class’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...w-ruling-class-while-destroying-middle-class/

Money sent by migrants to their homelands exceeds $500 billion – World Bank
https://www.rt.com/business/455985-world-bank-migrants-remittances-record/

Central American Migrants Are Sending Billions Back To Their Home Countries
https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/03/20/central-americans-send-billions-home/
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This is from 2013. To say this went from a "cash cow" to at present a "gravy train" is no exaggeration.
 
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Let me explain how all of this is working, since if you go to the Migrant caravan thread I've posted the info that's out there....

1) Speaking of "indios" haven't you noticed that South American government is going "white?" Look at Balsonora, Gaido, etc. Go look at some of the other leaders of those countries. And not only "lighter", but with a facist bent too?. Who are TPTB trying to get rid of? Maduro. An "indio." Same thing is going on in Africa and the ME. Ship out as much of the indigenous population as you can. After all, there's business to be done in those countries once they stabilize, but those people won't be going back. TPTB will have their people running things there. What you are really watching go down is The Boers in South Africa writ large. Take over these places and control the resources at the expense of the native populations. (I found it ironic that nobody caught what Netanyahu, who is trying to deport all Africans out of his country, said in a technology speech: "I'm traveling a lot. I've been to Africa 4 times and South America twice." Oh, you mean the places where all the migrants are coming from? Is it coincidental that he and Bolsonara are tight? Because they are racist facists. See, there's a racist element in play here, but it's in their home countries.) There's an expression tied to Castro and the Mariel boat lift: "flushing his sewers." To them, this is what they are doing by shipping people out of their countries. Which leads to...

2) cross purposes. Whenever the cabal wants to pull something big, all of the factions will work together to achieve the goals. What are they getting out of this? The "Boers" are looking to cut deals with these govs and exploit the resources via corporations. People like the industrialists (Koch Bros, etc.) want to flood America with labor because it changes the employment paradigm. Politicians want the votes. Instead of the employer having to battle for the workers, now the workers have to battle for the jobs. So employers have the upper hand and hey, what about raising that minimun wage, Randolph? But why-we have the upper hand, Mortimer. So to all the bleeding hearts out there (Oh, the humanity) you're being played. This is not better for you or your family. They are looking to create a permanent underclass of indentured servants who they can control through low wages and debt. They will turn your country into a 3rd world sweatshop just to improve their bottom line. In essence, they are the Borg and they want everyone assimilated. The best conmen (and women) always know how to get to the heart of their mark. The Koch Bros, Soros etc. who are pretty much universally despised can still get what they want by using NGO's and unelected commissions, along with some conman tactics via propaganda. Congratulations rubes. You got got. I mean, it's like poker. If you haven't figured out who the mark is 5 minutes after sitting down at the table, then the mark is probably you. This is the same situation.

3) As for cross purposes, it's also just a form of asymmetrical warfare. Why take on the war machine NATO head-on? Why not instead use ideological subversion and a mass influx of foreigners with no allegiance, different beliefs, don't speak the native language, and who don't particularly have anything in common, and in a lot of cases it seems, despise the native population? No common core, cause or creed. None of them came here to be Americans. They just came here to live in America. Big difference.

If you go back to the fact that all of this "immigration" is mainly going into NATO countries, maybe it would make sense to keep an eye on the countries where they aren't being shipped to. And watch your back with them, too. Because when the sh*t goes down, these NATO countries will have a big problem with non-cohesive populations where the newly arrived are just as likely to work with the other side as they are to work with you. After all, they've sworn no oath to these countries they have been shipped to, and most can't even speak or read the language said oath is written in. So food for thought: you are being set-up for possible invasion from these other countries.

144,000 people were caught at the border last month. That's just what they caught. So if you use your imagination, it's not too hard to see that many things like cadre, sleeper units, weapons, basically all the things you need for dirty deeds done dirt cheap could have already crossed in and just be waiting for THE SIGNAL See, nobody has had to defend this turf for 200 years, so sooner or later someone is going to try us here. It just makes sense. Superman isn't invulnerable if you can score some kryptonite. Do you see the glow yet?

3)They are now shipping in migrants from the Congo, quite possibly the most dangerous place on Earth. Ebola can lurk in people's systems, and how can you still think that any of these politicians give a sh*t about any of you when they effectively break a quarantine and bring in people who could be harboring one of the deadliest infections known to man? Do your politicians care? The answer is they don't. If it isn't apparent by now, they don't work for the American people, and in fact haven't for a long time. They work for corporations and billionaire oligarchs (who run the media) that has convinced a share of the population that this is a good thing for them and the country. It's all propaganda brought to you by a bunch of corrupt and corrupted MF'ers who don't even really care about people at all. Just about expanding their power and improving their bottom line. A contest among themselves for who can screw over the most people, you could say. Keeping in mind the adage, "Behind every great fortune lies a great tragedy."

4)Billions and billions of tax free money is being shipped out of the country to these other countries via remittances. 1 in 5 Salvadorans now live in the USA. Remittances to that country alone amount to 20% of their GDP. That's just one country. People are coming from 52 countries, so all that money sent out doesn't help your economy. It helps their economies. So congratulations. Not only do you get to support the world at large at your expense, but they've actually convinced some that this is a good thing. And how do they measure success? By getting the mark to vote AGAINST their own self interests. If TPTB can convince and induce the the masses to vote for what TPTB want, instead of what the masses need, that is the ultimate subversion.

Since a lot of the illegals work without a SSN and are paid in cash, who picks up the tax bills? Why you do, that's who. You get to pay for the schools, roads, medical, and services that they (and their crooked employers) are essentially using for free. In case you haven't been keeping up with current events, America is now the world's biggest pinata, and everyone that can is taking a swing at her and running away with whatever falls out. But hey, good luck with that $15 minimum wage plan <snort>. Funniest sh*t I've ever heard. Just paddling with one oar. By the time these f*ckers are done, they'll have everyone working for $3 an hour, if that, and begging for the job. See, by 2025, robots and machines will be doing 50% of the work tasks (I suspect the percentage is actually higher), and if you aren't willing to work for peanuts, well, they've got that covered with the immigration. So, next stop ahead: worker's paradise (not). TPTB will live like capitalists while everyone else is stuck in their communist "worker's paradise." Or the gulag. TPTB are fond of both, because neither one is for them.

4) I never put much stock into the whole "Democrats importing voters" thing, because they aren't supposed to be able to vote. But now, it's becoming pretty evident that these (especially west coast) bolshevik millionaire and billionaire politicians are in fact behind just that very scheme. Meanwhile, the old expression "As goes California, eventually goes the nation" should scare the sh*t out of everyone. Look at those dumpster fire trainwreck states they are running out west. Lawlessness, homelessness, over regulation, tax r*pe, and sh*t on the street amid the junkies and syringes littering the sidewalks. 60 straight blocks of homeless in LA. 60 blocks! It's pretty plain to see that the West Coast is in effect becoming it's own country which should be renamed Technanistan, where tech fatcats, glitterati, and politicians all have it good while ruling over a feudal serfdom of drug addled and disenfranchised and downtrodden citizens while pushing cheap immigrant labor and servants for their purposes. Who's governing that region anyway-Randall Flagg?

5) Entities are enriching themselves at American's expense. The cartels are offering "all-inclusive packages" to people in other countries to get them to the border. Entire criminal networks are being set up inside the country. NGO's are being funded and everyone is making out like a bandit off of this "crisis." Everyone except for the American people, who are just being shoved aside so that these scammers can run their scams. There's a whole lot of grift and graft going on with this whole thing, and it's easy to see.

So in reality, it's all just one big sh*tshow (literally) to bring down any standards or values Americans have established, and to create one big 3rd world that all of these "elites" can more easily roll over. This is what happens when the rich run amok. But hey, nobody is protesting them anymore, just each other now. They fixed their Occupy PR problem by setting the 99% against each other by funding (just like you see here) every devisive societal issue. Divide and conquer. If you look at the stats, you can see how much money the top has hoovered up, as compared to how much the bottom has lost. Cause and effect.

Is anybody protesting this vast wealth inequality with any substantial protests anymore? Nope. Everybody just gettin' poorer while the prices go up. That isn't changing. But as I've said before, I'm an analyst, not an activist. I'm afraid I'm too cynical for that. So after looking at a mountain of info about this, that's my take. Callin' it like I see it. You can agree, disagree, or have a totally different view of things. Fine by me. And if you can't follow this line of thinking, then drop by my poker game Friday night. We always have an extra chair for a new mark, I mean, player. After all, it's their own fault if they haven't figured it out in the first 5 minutes, right?

Rothschilds accused of preying on South Africa's state-owned enterprises
https://www.rt.com/business/462286-rothschilds-capturing-sa-airlines/

Why are the Western middle classes so angry?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/12/why-are-the-western-middle-classes-so-angry/

“Rolls of $100 Bills”…Who’s Paying African Migrants At Our Border? Swiss Journalist Asks The Questions Our Media Won’t
https://100percentfedup.com/whos-pa...list-asks-the-questions-our-media-wont-video/

Immigrants and Political Engagement
https://www.ppic.org/publication/immigrants-and-political-engagement/

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1142323707563479040
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1142467425700462592
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Thanks @UnderAlienControl for taking the time to share your views. I've been consistently reading the articles you've been linking about immigration this year, but nice to hear people's direct opinion on matters as well.

There isn't a whole lot to disagree about with the info you're providing. I think migrants from from countries with active diseases should be closely screened. There are cross purposes as you say, and we'd have to be oblivious not to know the ruling class (or other criminals) will find a way to exploit the situation. We seem to agree that the current international economic structure is the root of the problem.

I'm not so sure about immigrants weakening US resistance to an invasion when it's already so fractured. Who are the powers attempting to undermine NATO countries? I find it more than curious that Drumph's single issue in 2016 was immigration. The republicans and media have intentionally made it into a "crisis" and into the minds of Americans. But has immigration changed much the last 20 years? Not really.


Migrants are still less than 15% of the population, and here is an interesting fact:

"Recent immigrants are more likely to be from Asia than from Mexico, and are also more likely to have a college degree. The size of the unauthorized population appears to be on the decline. Deportations from within the United States are rising. And the United States in 2018 resettled the smallest number of refugees since formal creation of the refugee resettlement program in 1980."

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states

Your post brings up some important things to consider and it's clear you've been following the topic much closer than I. Admittedly my take on immigration is based mostly on my wish for peace and a better world. Open borders and re-distributing wealth are an ideal, and knowing that half of the US could vote for the Donald... I accept that we're a long way off.

Thanks again for your insight.
 
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weskrongden said:
That is a sham. These asylum claims have exploded over recent years because these migrants have seen it as a way to game the system. There's a reason most claims are rejected and under catch and release most didn't even show up to their hearing. No, it's clear you're playing right into their agenda. I remember an article from VC himself about how mass migration in Europe was a NWO tactic to undermine sovereignty and sow discord.
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Except that the situations in countries is getting WORSE. And more and more countries are falling and the people need help.
We arent the ones buying into the agenda but you sure are.
 
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manama said:
Except that the situations in countries is getting WORSE. And more and more countries are falling and the people need help.
We arent the ones buying into the agenda but you sure are.
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The violence and destabilization people in these countries are fleeing are a direct result of imperialistic actions and corporate exploitation of the third world.

Thank you @manama for calling these camps what they are last summer. Don't for one second think that these camps wont be expanded, and eventually be used for 'dissidents". If you don't speak out against this atrocity now its because you either know, 1) you're not in any danger of the camps, you're a Good German, or 2) you don't know that if you don't stop it now, its going to be used against you.

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I think people should enter the US legally and then there would be no need for the centers and what comes with them.
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Nice dodge. I’ll try again..

Are you in favor of housing innocent children in these centers. How do you feel about the living conditions they have been subjected to in them?
 
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justjess said:
Nice dodge. I’ll try again..

Are you in favor of housing innocent children in these centers. How do you feel about the living conditions they have been subjected to in them?
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Who’s dodging? They should work at entering legally. I don’t see where you should expect good things when you do something illegal.
 
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