Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible [part 3]

[JoChris]

I think you have hit on the central error that @A Freeman promotes.

Yesterday in our garden I had to move a millstone that was laying flat in one of our borders. It took every ounce of my strength to move it…

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Reading through your exposure of the deception at the heart of Mr Hill’s message, I remembered a verse about millstones:

Mark 9:42 King James Version (KJV)

“And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.”​

To use a metaphor from a well known rainforest tree called the curtain fig tree (Far North Queensland):

Curtain Fig Tree - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Only God would know the true spiritual state of AJH's followers, but from several different accounts over the years it sounds like AJH got attached to already vulnerable people, took hold of their life and then spiritually/ emotionally/ financially strangled them with his bizarre blend of legalistic beliefs.
If my "Fighting for the Faith" style commentary on TWHOFTF protects people from getting into JAHtruth in the first place I will be very happy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/@Fighting4theFaith

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

To use a metaphor from a well known rainforest tree called the curtain fig tree in Far North Queensland:
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Curtain Fig Tree - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Only God would know the true spiritual state of AJH's followers, but from several different accounts over the years it sounds like AJH got attached to already vulnerable people, took hold of their life and then spiritually/ emotionally/ financially strangled them with his bizarre blend of legalistic beliefs.
If my "Fighting for the Faith" style commentary on TWHOFTF protects people from getting into JAHtruth in the first place I will be very happy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/@Fighting4theFaith

I wouldn’t promote a false gospel for $10 billion dollars! There seems to be a lot of it going round these days though - I’m just watching this this morning and it’s on point!!

False Doctrines & Deception Rising

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[JoChris]

I wouldn’t promote a false gospel for $10 billion dollars! There seems to be a lot of it going round these days though - I’m just watching this this morning and it’s on point!!

False Doctrines & Deception Rising

Bro Chooch @TOLEndTimes joins me to talk about how false doctrines and deceptive teachings of men are on the rise. One of the primary things Jesus warned abo...

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Someone would have it that way...

BUT

 

[JoChris]

Remember that chapter 2 was BEFORE the fall chapter 3.

Genesis chapter 2

Genesis 2:15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

4:19 In the Garden of Eden there was no work, only learning: everything else was provided by God.

THWOFTF mythology there.
Genesis chapter 3

Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

4:20 Woman (Eve) created work, by listening to Satan, and has been doing so ever since.
That is partly correct (if only Eve hadn't, how different history may have been!), however the bible does not say that.
God held Adam responsible despite what Eve had done- God said the above verses to ADAM, not Eve.

AJH has something in common with Adam - blaming the woman for everything.

Over the centuries sadly there have been some Christian writers and leaders who blamed women excessively for mankind's sins just like Anthony John Hill does in TWHOFTF. Critics understandably love pointing out that out, but sadly it is true.

20 vile quotes against women - Alternet

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Exodus chapter 20 (10 commandments chapter)
Exodus 20:2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Deuteronomy chapter 6
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.


4:21 God’s first COMMANDment (it is the first, because it is the MOST important) states that YOU must love God, first, above and beyond EVERYTHING else, and love Him with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength
Correct.... (but as usual AJH adds to that)

(every ounce of it - Mark 12:30), and Him ONLY shall you serve (Matt. 4:10).

In context Mark 12:28-34
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Jesus did not add "ounce" or "beyond everything else". AJH always manages to add what feels like an extra burden to what Jesus says!

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Matthew 4:1-11
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

As usual AJH did not assist the reader by giving the context.

 

[JoChris]

4:22 Adam started a tradition, that has survived for thousands of years, which is:- loving woman first, and God (good) second, thereby breaking the first and most important COMMANDment, upon which all the others hang.

4:23 This has caused, and still is causing, most of the trouble in the world, and God will allow women to continue punishing men, with heart-ache, etc., until man learns to put God (pure love) first, and woman (sex) second, or he runs out of time: whichever comes first.

The above JAHtruth commentary doesn't need explanation.

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4:24 Man must learn to DO God’s Will, and not woman’s will,
True. Women should also do the same, we should not do man's will instead of God's.
In the context of commandments, when the bible says men/ brothers that **usually** includes women unless stated otherwise.

which is often actually Satan’s will (he manipulates the souls, that are locked inside women’s bodies, to pull the souls locked-inside men’s bodies back to earth, and keep them here in prison),
That is AJH's gnosticism variety doctrine.

or the world will continue to accelerate in a backwards direction (Amos 4:1 & Isaiah 3:12-24).

So the only reason that the world will continue to slide backwards if men are obeying women not God?!!!
AJH manages to sneak his anti-women worldview everywhere!

Amos chapter 4
4:1 Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

Isaiah chapter 3
12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths....

Isaiah 3:12-24 include descriptions of the Israelite women's behaviour in Isaiah's day. Isaiah is not blaming women for everything like AJH is!!!!

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/isaiah/3-12.htm [do further searches via biblehub to get the full explanation for every verse 12-24]

And women rule over them - This is not to be taken literally, but it means either that the rulers were under the influence of the "harem," or the females of the court; or that they were effeminate and destitute of vigor and manliness in counsel. The Septuagint and the Chaldee render this verse substantially alike: 'Thy exactors strip my people as they who gather the grapes strip the vineyard.'

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4:25 Women persuade men to do evil for them, for sex, which can mean cheating-on, or leaving their wives and families; killing; stealing; fighting; or working themselves to death, just to buy worldly, and therefore temporary treasures for them. To quote the “Picture of Dorian Gray”, by Oscar Wilde, referring to women, as spoken by a friend of Dorian: “They have got it; we want it; and people are making millions in between.” (Rev. 18:3-20).

I went extensively into how AJH's use of the "Picture of Dorian Gray" was more than questionable starting here.

Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible (part 2)

In anticipation of the next attack against the Word of God, please see the following, concerning the Greek word "pharmakeia" and its variants, from: https://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm, The Greek word "pharmakeia" is where the modern-day word "pharmacy" originates. And, as can be seen above...

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For further character analysis: Perversion and degeneracy in the Picture of Dorian Gray - British literature

Revelation chapter 18 refers to Babylon, not women in general. Shame on Anthony John Hill.

 

[JoChris]

There is a massive difference between Christian women obeying the bible's commandment to submit to our husband and JAHtruthers obeying what AJH says in "the way home or face the fire"!!!

This is what the BIBLE says.
Ephesians 5:22-33
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body....

...25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;....

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.


4:26 Instead of doing these evil things, man should be learning to be like Jesus, and doing God’s Will, and should be working for God, by fighting against evil, wherever and whenever he finds it, for the benefit of all mankind, and, at the same time, he will be setting a good example, for others to follow, especially his children (Matt. 10:37-38)(Sura 9:23-24).

AJH must be quote-mining again.

Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

I will leave the following verses for a Muslim to explain.
Sura 9:23-24
Sahih International
O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

Sahih International
Say, [O Muhammad], "If your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your wives, your relatives, wealth which you have obtained, commerce wherein you fear decline, and dwellings with which you are pleased are more beloved to you than Allah and His Messenger and jihad in His cause, then wait until Allah executes His command. And Allah does not guide the defiantly disobedient people."

4:27 His wife’s place is to take care of the children, and to feed him and keep his clothes and home clean, and to give him moral support, to keep him going, so that he can earn his right to go home.

Although women should seek to look after their husband and household - and the husband should look after his family as well. How that is done can vary greatly in between households.
What AJH states above IMO is perfectly reasonable IF the woman is at home and the man is the traditional breadwinner.
If the woman is working the same hours as the husband, the husband should pull his weight as well... if he wants a happy marriage!!!!
There is nothing in the bible to support AJH's commandments RE the woman ALWAYS doing all the meals, laundry and home duties.

If she does this, she is also going forward, towards becoming a perfect lady, wife and mother; eventually earning the right to be a man. “Behind every great man, there is a relatively good woman.”

All this guilt tripping to coerce men and women do what AJH claims - there is nothing to suggest a woman will become a man in future lifetimes either!!!!

4:28 Man must learn not to break the COMMANDments, and then, to use his superiority of strength, both mental and physical, GENTLY, along with his better understanding of spiritual love, to persuade woman not to break the COMMANDments either. If not, the world will continue to go backwards, until God has no alternative, except to destroy all the evil souls.

AJH's opinion. I feel so sorry for any woman/ women that AJH had in his life.
A domestic abuser would just luuvvv 4:28.

 

[JoChris]

4:29 Don’t fool yourselves into thinking that YOU are good. You are NOT! (ISAIAH 64:6-7). If you were good, you would not be here; you would already have gone home. God does not keep good people in prison.
Isaiah chapter 64

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

We are in bondage to sin without God. The body/ physical world is not our prison.
AJH is paraphrasing Gnosticism yet again.

Gnosis introduction (pro-Gnosticism worleview):
Humans are generally ignorant of the divine spark resident within them. This ignorance is fostered in human nature by the influence of the false creator and his Archons, who together are intent upon keeping men and women ignorant of their true nature and destiny. Anything that causes us to remain attached to earthly things serves to keep us in enslavement to these lower cosmic rulers. Death releases the divine spark from its lowly prison, but if there has not been a substantial work of Gnosis undertaken by the soul prior to death, it becomes likely that the divine spark will be hurled back into, and then re-embodied within, the pangs and slavery of the physical world.

4:30 It is impossible for man, to do what he should, until he learns to worship pure love (God), instead of sex (one of the devil’s weapons), and to know the difference, between the two.

No-one learns to love God by sheer determination. We are sinners. You cannot force people to love what they fear either.

AJH focuses on sex way too much. There are way more varieties of sins than physical desires!!!

 

[Lyfe]

 

[JoChris]

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If anyone who is reading TWHOFTF wishes to point anything that isn't being addressed please go ahead.

As an Australian woman who has never been a JAHtruther, I will inevitably miss things that British people, men and ex-JAHtruthers will notice.
I would love people to dissect it along with me (if they feel led to do so of course)!

 

[JoChris]

Matthew chapter 19.
10 His [Jesus] disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

4:31 Jesus gave his love to the world, instead of to a woman; pure and unselfish spiritual love, as opposed to selfish animal love (emotion); and voluntarily made himself into a eunuch (metaphorically, Matt. 19:12, third type), for God and the world’s sake.

For a better discussion of the different varieties of love there can be: Four types of love- C.S.Lewis

The best definition of godly love:





4:32 The other reason that he was alone, was because, loving a woman, in a personal-relationship, would have created a conflict of interests, and it would have interfered with his mission. A good soldier ALWAYS puts his mission first, even above and before his own life. “A man has to do, what a man has to do.”

That is an understandable conclusion from the human perspective... but there were so many more reasons than "keeping on mission".





P.S. I didn't think that quote was quite right!



4:33 A wife, or mother, will try to stop a man, from doing what he has to do, using her husband’s, or son’s, love for her, as a lever, to try to stop him from doing anything, that may endanger his life, or her selfish material comfort and happiness.

4:34 It would have been, and was, the same for Jesus, and his mission was so difficult, that he could not allow a woman to get in the way, of his being crucified.

4:35 Also, it would not have been fair, on any woman, so Jesus chose to be alone; demonstrating total unselfishness, in choosing to hurt himself, by being alone, rather than hurting someone else, who loved him (self-crucifixion). Therefore, during his mission, Jesus separated himself, from the female members of his family, as much as was possible.

Why didn't Jesus marry - Got questions

 

[JoChris]

Please read the following links first to see how the biblical position on women is not a woman-hating one (either from the feminist viewpoint or a patriarchal viewpoint):

Bible study tools - what does the bible say about women

What are complementarianism and egalitarianism? Christianity.com

From the 17th century writer Matthew Henry commentary Genesis 2:21-25



List of women in the bible: Wikipedia

20 women of the bible who impacted their world

8 female prophets of the bible

Women in the bible - biblical archeology

There are many different websites on important women in the bible for those who want to learn. Us usually having a different role to men because that is God's will for us doesn't mean we are therefore inferior.

There is some disagreement amongst Christians about the role of women these days: however I am aware of no mainstream church that approves of women being dominated, abused, bullied, or physically disciplined by their husband ever.
That includes my own small fundamentalist Baptist church (which is the most socially conservative church I have been to in my life).

 

[JoChris]

My previous entry gave my opinion the following "verses".
Reading the whole bible chapter will really fill in the gaps.

4:37 Satan has always used woman to do his work, starting with Eve, trying to stop God’s plans, by trying to persuade man not to do what is right, by using man’s love for woman, against man (1st. Timothy 2:14).
The directions in 1 Timothy chapter 2 is for the CHURCH.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

4:38 Man was told, by God, from the beginning (Genesis 3:16-17), that woman was NOT and could NEVER be his equal,
It does not say that.

Genesis chapter 3
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

and God has reminded man repeatedly, ever since (1st. Corinthians 11:1- 16)(Sura 2:228 & 4:34).
It does not say that!!!!
1 Corinthians chapter 11

11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

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Quran 2:228:
Divorced women must wait three monthly cycles ˹before they can re-marry˺. It is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs,1 if they ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands reserve the right to take them back within that period if they desire reconciliation. Women have rights similar to those of men equitably, although men have a degree ˹of responsibility˺ above them. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise.

Quran 4:34
Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially. And righteous women are devoutly obedient and, when alone, protective of what Allah has entrusted them with.1 And if you sense ill-conduct from your women, advise them ˹first˺, ˹if they persist,˺ do not share their beds, ˹but if they still persist,˺ then discipline them ˹gently˺.2 But if they change their ways, do not be unjust to them. Surely Allah is Most High, All-Great.
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4:39 That is why man has kept woman down, and in her correct place, for all these thousands of years (Job 2:9-10).

Job chapter 2
9 Then said his [Job's] wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.
10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

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The rest is AJH's anti-woman Gnosticism mythology.

4:40 Having failed the first, very simple test, Adam and Eve were expelled from the security of the Garden of Eden.

4:41 If they had obeyed God, and not Satan, and had passed the test, there would be no problems in the world today. Without knowledge there would be no nuclear-weapons; pollution; or hunger; etc.; etc.

4:42 Woman was punished, not only for failing her own test, but for then causing Adam to fail his. This punishment took the form of having to suffer great pain, in childbirth, because she had used her sex to persuade Adam (MAN) to disobey God, and Eve (WOMAN) has been doing it all day; every day; everywhere; to everyone; ever since.

4:43 Sex leads to childbirth and great pain, which should also act as a deterrent to sex, to try to teach women to look for love, instead of sex, i.e. God, instead of the devil.

4:44 After the expulsion from Eden, the devil used women; as he has continued to do successfully, throughout the history of the world; to create problems, or aggravate existing ones.

4:45 The population gradually increased and more souls were sent, from the Astral Plain, to use the new bodies, and, because people listened to Satan, instead of listening to God, the world became more and more evil.

4:46 Eventually, it became TOO evil, and God had to decide what to do, to try to put everyone back on the right path.

 

[JoChris]

Now for a song to refresh the spirit!

Be Thou My Vision

Authoritative information about the hymn text Be Thou My Vision, with lyrics, audio recordings, MIDI files, printable scores, PDF files, piano resources, and products for worship planners.

hymnary.org

 

[JoChris]

From pages 34-36 JAHtruth doesn't include numbers for verses. I separated sentences for easier reading. I have no wish to repeat myself like AJH does here.

No-one in the history of the world has ever understood why Adam and Eve; after listening to and believing Satan (the Serpent, out of who’s mouth comes only poison/lies), rather than God; believed that they were naked and then hid themselves from God. So, I am going to explain it to you.

It is really very simple, as you should see from my explanation. Whilst Adam and Eve listened only to God, they KNEW that they were really Spirit-Beings of Light and were locked inside of and clothed by the human bodies into which they were incarnated. Therefore they were not naked, because they were Spirit-Beings clothed with their human body.

After they had listened to Satan’s first lie in the Garden, which was that they were ONLY human; a lie that Satan has been getting people to tell each other ever since, to keep reinforcing their belief in that lie, and using it as an excuse for everything they do wrong – “Well, we’re only human after all”; they then became mortal and naked.

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@Red Sky at Morning, @Maldarker, @Lyfe @lightseeker, @e-Enoch and any other lurkers out there - yes even you @A Freeman:

The mask finally came off. This is Gnosticism.

 

[e-Enoch]

We are dealing with an entity...the liar since the beginning...has entered into AI, ChatGPT... "generating" its own "truths"...to deceive many... "even the elect..."

 

[JoChris]

We are dealing with an entity...the liar since the beginning...has entered into AI, ChatGPT... "generating" its own "truths"...to deceive many... "even the elect..."

100% agree with you!!!

Years ago when I returned back to the Lord I got involved in a news blog which welcomed comments from believers of all religions. The resident troll/ anti-Christian always was mentioning all the Gnosticism heresies of all varieties.

At the time that made absolutely no sense to me. I did some research on the topic and it seemed to me to be behind a lot of ancient heresies but why did NonBeliever (actual name!) always bring it up?!!!! [Perhaps he was a spiritual brother of Gnostic Christian Bishop who thankfully is not on the forum any more.)

Thanks to NB I learned even some Charismaniacs most certainly have a lot of Gnosticism hidden here and there amongst mainstream Christian doctrines. e.g. Rick Joyner, commonly associated with the New Apostolic Reformation.

 

[JoChris]

People who are already interested in Gnosticism will recognise Anthony John Hill has borrowed a lot of basic concepts from the ancient religion, but without the exact mythology present e.g. you won't see other minor gods mentioned.

The books selected for the New Testament were completed by the end of the first century AD.

New Testament Books | Listed in Canonical Order

This is a list of the 27 books of the New Testament, ordered canonically according to most Christian traditions. See also Bible and biblical literature.

www.britannica.com

Early christian writings has a lot of the Gnostic books. (The years given are very broad, so take with a pinch of salt.)
The Gnostic books are mostly dated from the 2nd century onwards.

Apocalypse of Moses actually blames Eve for knowingly leading Adam into sin [see half way down] like AJH did earlier in "the way home or face the fire".

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The reason they were naked was, because, instead of being their Spirit-Being inside of and clothed with a human body, suddenly they were the human, outside of their Spirit-Being and clothed with nothing, and thus naked. “For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he” (Proverbs 23:7).

Proverbs 23:6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:
7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
8 The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up, and lose thy sweet words.

They had been told by God that, if they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Evil, they would die, and they were expelled from the Garden and had to work for a living, instead of having everything provided freely by God, and being immortal.

See Genesis chapters 2-3 for full context. Chapter 2 doesn't give a hint that God had given Adam a stern telling off about keeping the rules "...OR ELSE!"

Then God set a flaming sword at the East of Eden, to cut man asunder and prevent him from reentering the Garden, whilst ever he believed Satan’s lie that he was ONLY human.

JAHTRUTH IS A LIAR. THE BIBLE SAYS THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

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Christ; incarnated inside of Jesus, who is referred to as the Second Adam; came to reverse The Fall, by teaching people that they are NOT only human, and that they MUST be born again as their Spirit-Being, and follow his example, or they would NEVER see or enter The Kingdom of God.

THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS IS THE CHRIST.

Mind Over Matter: The Heresy of Gnosticism both Then and Now
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The Gnostics saw Jesus as a messenger bringing the special knowledge of salvation to humanity's imprisoned soul. They believed that when Jesus came to earth He didn't possess a body like our own; instead, the Gnostics taught that He only seemed to have a physical body (known as the heresy of "docetism," from the Greek verb "to seem"). This was a denial of the Christian doctrine of the incarnation—the belief that Jesus was both fully God and fully human.

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The MOST important words in ALL of Scripture are spoken by Jesus, as recorded in the Gospel of John, chapter 3:1-13, where Jesus explained to Nicodemus that you MUST be born again as your Spirit-Being, and then make yourself as a little child, or you will NOT be able to see and enter The Kingdom of God. The Scriptures were not written for humans, but for Spirit-Beings. They make no sense to a human, because they do not have the spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear and understand the message in the Scriptures. Only an awakened and born-again Spirit-Being has the eyes and ears to be able to see and hear the message in the Scriptures.

JAHtruth religion adds spirit-being and awakened wherever he can pollute the Word of God to fit his version of Gnosticism.

THIS appears to be the passage where he seeks to weasel himself in - if you are enlightened you will be able to (somehow) see and hear AJH's message in his PERversion of the bible.

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John chapter 3
Actual verses:
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

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Eve fully believed Satan’s lie that she was ONLY human and swallowed the apple, but it stuck in Adam’s throat, as he did not fully believe it. That’s why men have an Adam’s Apple, and women do not. Most men, at some time/s in their life, ask: “What am I doing here?” Women do not, because they believe the lie that they are only human, and thus they know that they were born here and will die here. They also, because they give birth to children, believe that they, and not God, create life. Men, however, did not swallow all of the Apple/lie and thus ask the question – “What am I doing here?” It is the Spirit-Being, incarnated within the man, who is asking the question, NOT their human asking it, because it knows it was born here and will die here.

The bible does not say that about the apple being stuck in Adam's throat.
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The simple story of Adam’s sons, Cain and Abel, seems also never to have been understood. God told Cain and Abel, after their parents had already been disobedient, that the ONLY offering He would accept from them, was a LAMB (foreshadowing the LAMB of God - CHRIST and his “SELF”-crucifixion). Abel obeyed God and brought a lamb, EXACTLY as he was told to do, and was ACCEPTED. Cain, just like his parents, disobeyed God and he brought the fruit of the earth, and was REJECTED.
In other words, unless you approach God, EXACTLY as He has told you to do (I am The Way, no man comes to the Father, except by me - the Lamb of God - John 14:6), and NOT as your parents and siblings have done, YOU will be REJECTED.

Read Genesis chapter 4. It does not say that.

Hebrews chapter 11
4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

 

[JoChris]

I have decided to leave the very last section unaddressed because frankly looking at the same extreme legalism re-worded has become too tiresome. I ask that readers take their time to check the chapters AJH quote-mines as usual.

https://www.biblegateway.com/

I may return to the ebook at another stage if another person volunteers to assist me. I have no desire to continue solo, especially since the next chapters looks like a very poor paraphrase of the Bible and Quran.
The only thing that looked mildly entertaining was the thought of what the woke crowd might think of AJH's anti-LGBT worldview.

The more I learn, the more I am repulsed, distressed and amazed that people could possibly reject the Gospel of Grace because a mere man sounds convincing enough about communicating with God and receiving illumination all the time.

I have a mild rebuke for those who have followed AJH - you have taken what according to the flesh is an easier path, although you might see yourself as being more noble and enlightened than people who just follow religion (according to JAHtruth).
A lie is a lie is a lie. It doesn't matter how righteous or self-controlled you believe you have become via following AJH.

God will hold you responsible if you read what I have laboriously typed here but you still remain a follower of AJH. He is a con-artist and a manipulative man who has preyed upon your mental/ emotional fragilities instead of turning to Jesus Christ.
A true God will not mind you questioning what is said.

Surely the only way Anthony John Hill has achieved any followers is that he must have both the gift of the gab and a seducing spirit (or many!) that has seduced him into believing he is Jesus reincarnated as well as others?!




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People say that there are many paths to God, and there are thousands of different religious doctrines, ALL claiming theirs is the right and only one, but there are thousands of them. God says there is only ONE way (John 14:6), and that very few there be that find it (Matt. 7:14). Jesus has told you, in Rev. 12:9, that Satan has deceived the whole world (ALL of YOU),

because you are ALL trying to approach God your OWN way, like Cain did, and have been
REJECTED (“Go away from me, you who work iniquity - inequity, I do not know you” - Matt. 7:23 &
25:11, 12, 41; “Why call ye me Lord, Lord and do NOT do the things that I say?” - Matt. 7:21 & 25:11
& Luke 6:46 & 13:25).
The people who say that there are many paths to God, (and/or that theirs is the right one) are
ALL calling God a LIAR, (Rev. 12:9 & Matt. 7:15) so you know what is going to happen to them (Woe
unto those who call good [truth], evil [lies]) - “The FIRE” (Isaiah 5:20)(Matt. 25:41).
God told Abel and Cain the ONLY way and unless you do it EXACTLY, in minute and exact
detail, The Way God has told you, you will be rejected, just like clever, disobedient Cain was.

Abel in humble, loving trust and obedience brought his lamb.

Cain in arrogant disobedience; thinking he knew best and could do as he liked; was rejected, even
though he brought more than Abel did.

Remember, they were, like you are, condemned-prisoners and had already been kicked-out of the
Garden of Eden, for disobedience, and unless you do EXACTLY as you are told, and learn to be
good, you are going to be EXECUTED.

The word Abel means “the breath of LIFE”, and the word Cain means “possessions”, in Hebrew.

Cain slew Abel - in English, “Possessions slew the breath of LIFE”.

Jesus said (Matt. 6:24), “You can NOT serve God and mammon - money; materialism and
possessions - because if you love one, you will hate the other”.

In other words, materialism and selfishness destroy good and spirituality (LIFE), and bring spiritual
death - “The FIRE”. _____________________________

Human society can NEVER work, because it is based on human selfishness (a kingdom or house
divided can never stand – Democracy, Politics, Parliament, families and society - Matt. 12:25).

If you have 100 people and you are one of them, and every one is out for their “Self”, you can have
nothing but violence and war, with the strong victimising and oppressing the weak; the rich doing the
same to the poor, and the clever doing likewise to the not so clever.

If, however, you have the same 100 people and you are one of them, and EVERY single one of them
puts everybody else first, and his or her “Self” second, then, every single person, including you, gains
99 times.

It will ONLY work, if EVERY single person does it, otherwise, the one who doesn’t, steals
everything from the others (sound familiar?). One bad apple ruins the whole barrel.

So far it has NEVER been realized by man, and there has NEVER been peace on Earth.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Remember that chapter 2 was BEFORE the fall chapter 3.

Genesis chapter 2

Genesis 2:15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

4:19 In the Garden of Eden there was no work, only learning: everything else was provided by God.

THWOFTF mythology there.
Genesis chapter 3

Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

4:20 Woman (Eve) created work, by listening to Satan, and has been doing so ever since.
That is partly correct (if only Eve hadn't, how different history may have been!), however the bible does not say that.
God held Adam responsible despite what Eve had done- God said the above verses to ADAM, not Eve.

AJH has something in common with Adam - blaming the woman for everything.

Over the centuries sadly there have been some Christian writers and leaders who blamed women excessively for mankind's sins just like Anthony John Hill does in TWHOFTF. Critics understandably love pointing out that out, but sadly it is true.

20 vile quotes against women - Alternet

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Exodus chapter 20 (10 commandments chapter)
Exodus 20:2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Deuteronomy chapter 6
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.


4:21 God’s first COMMANDment (it is the first, because it is the MOST important) states that YOU must love God, first, above and beyond EVERYTHING else, and love Him with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength
Correct.... (but as usual AJH adds to that)

(every ounce of it - Mark 12:30), and Him ONLY shall you serve (Matt. 4:10).

In context Mark 12:28-34
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Jesus did not add "ounce" or "beyond everything else". AJH always manages to add what feels like an extra burden to what Jesus says!

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Matthew 4:1-11
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

As usual AJH did not assist the reader by giving the context.

The way people try to bend, add to or redact scripture can be very revealing…

The relationship between man and woman as set out in TWHOFTF may tell us more about Mr Hill’s past relationships and upbringing than anything about how God views us.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

I have decided to leave the very last section unaddressed because frankly looking at the same extreme legalism re-worded has become too tiresome. I ask that readers take their time to check the chapters AJH quote-mines as usual.

https://www.biblegateway.com/

I may return to the ebook at another stage if another person volunteers to assist me. I have no desire to continue solo, especially since the next chapters looks like a very poor paraphrase of the Bible and Quran.
The only thing that looked mildly entertaining was the thought of what the woke crowd might think of AJH's anti-LGBT worldview.

The more I learn, the more I am repulsed, distressed and amazed that people could possibly reject the Gospel of Grace because a mere man sounds convincing enough about communicating with God and receiving illumination all the time.

I have a mild rebuke for those who have followed AJH - you have taken what according to the flesh is an easier path, although you might see yourself as being more noble and enlightened than people who just follow religion (according to JAHtruth).
A lie is a lie is a lie. It doesn't matter how righteous or self-controlled you believe you have become via following AJH.

God will hold you responsible if you read what I have laboriously typed here and if you still remain a follower of AJH, a con-artist and a manipulative man who has preyed upon your mental/ emotional fragilities instead of turning to Jesus Christ.

Surely the only way Anthony John Hill has achieved any followers is that he must have both the gift of the gab and a seducing spirit (or many!) that has seduced him into believing he is Jesus reincarnated as well as others?!


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People say that there are many paths to God, and there are thousands of different religious doctrines, ALL claiming theirs is the right and only one, but there are thousands of them. God says there is only ONE way (John 14:6), and that very few there be that find it (Matt. 7:14). Jesus has told you, in Rev. 12:9, that Satan has deceived the whole world (ALL of YOU),

because you are ALL trying to approach God your OWN way, like Cain did, and have been
REJECTED (“Go away from me, you who work iniquity - inequity, I do not know you” - Matt. 7:23 &
25:11, 12, 41; “Why call ye me Lord, Lord and do NOT do the things that I say?” - Matt. 7:21 & 25:11
& Luke 6:46 & 13:25).
The people who say that there are many paths to God, (and/or that theirs is the right one) are
ALL calling God a LIAR, (Rev. 12:9 & Matt. 7:15) so you know what is going to happen to them (Woe
unto those who call good [truth], evil [lies]) - “The FIRE” (Isaiah 5:20)(Matt. 25:41).
God told Abel and Cain the ONLY way and unless you do it EXACTLY, in minute and exact
detail, The Way God has told you, you will be rejected, just like clever, disobedient Cain was.

Abel in humble, loving trust and obedience brought his lamb.

Cain in arrogant disobedience; thinking he knew best and could do as he liked; was rejected, even
though he brought more than Abel did.

Remember, they were, like you are, condemned-prisoners and had already been kicked-out of the
Garden of Eden, for disobedience, and unless you do EXACTLY as you are told, and learn to be
good, you are going to be EXECUTED.

The word Abel means “the breath of LIFE”, and the word Cain means “possessions”, in Hebrew.

Cain slew Abel - in English, “Possessions slew the breath of LIFE”.

Jesus said (Matt. 6:24), “You can NOT serve God and mammon - money; materialism and
possessions - because if you love one, you will hate the other”.

In other words, materialism and selfishness destroy good and spirituality (LIFE), and bring spiritual
death - “The FIRE”. _____________________________

Human society can NEVER work, because it is based on human selfishness (a kingdom or house
divided can never stand – Democracy, Politics, Parliament, families and society - Matt. 12:25).

If you have 100 people and you are one of them, and every one is out for their “Self”, you can have
nothing but violence and war, with the strong victimising and oppressing the weak; the rich doing the
same to the poor, and the clever doing likewise to the not so clever.

If, however, you have the same 100 people and you are one of them, and EVERY single one of them
puts everybody else first, and his or her “Self” second, then, every single person, including you, gains
99 times.

It will ONLY work, if EVERY single person does it, otherwise, the one who doesn’t, steals
everything from the others (sound familiar?). One bad apple ruins the whole barrel.

So far it has NEVER been realized by man, and there has NEVER been peace on Earth.

I posted this up some time ago on another thread. At its heart, the message of AJH fails to comprehend the Christian message it seeks to replace.