Childrens Crisis

[TempestOfTempo]

That I can agree with... working with kids using music especially with teenagers has always been very useful. It’s a powerful tool and could be easily misused but I’ve always found if you can get a kid to talk about the music they like, you learn a lot and it helps them to open up about other stuff.

For that reason though I don’t think music typically viewed as inappropriate really is.. you never know what will resonate with a kid and what kind of experiences they’ve had and hearing there experiences reflected is important.

By that same token, music and all related entertainment fields lead kids into these situations and lifestyles. Where do you find the balance point at?

 

[TempestOfTempo]

For your information numbnut....

I think it may be beneficial if I explain the reason why I feel I am qualified to speak about topics such as this

For seven years I worked in the field of child care. It was an EBD residential home in the heart of the Peak District. The company which I worked for specialized in assessing and rehabilitating some of the most damaged kids in the UK. These were often very high profile cases of the worst type of sickening abuse a child can suffer. Some of their case files were very difficult to read. Victims of sickening peodophillia rings, torture, ritual abuse, parental r*pe, slavery, incest and drugs are all these poor kids ever knew.

We would work with the kids that no other residential units could cope with. The levels of trauma that they had been subjected to were unimaginable to most. Some of these poor souls were feral. You could see the pain in their eyes. It was an exceptionally challenging role from an emotional point of view and the average lifespan of a worker in that field was only 18 months.

Physical assaults on staff were common place, these kids would just act out learned behaviours without knowing any boundaries. It was a very tough environment to work in.

What I also learned from first hand experience is how kids use music, especially during times of a heightened emotional state. Music would often be used in a kind of medicinal way to help bring that person down from a highly agitated episode.

Music is not just entertainment. It can have a direct effect on a young person's thoughts, feelings and emotions. A young person's attitude can be shaped by the music which they listen to. Music affects the conscious and subconscious mind together.

The manufactures of music are all too aware of this and take full advantage that the majority of people are not aware at all.

Predictive programming is very real. It's happening and It's happening for a reason.

Now THIS is the kind of dialog I was hoping for! Your post deserves a proper reply so I will take a bit of time to type one out......
Thanks for sharing this and most importantly, thank you for standing with the most vulnerable and damaged of the youth. That kind of advocacy is real as steel........

 

[TempestOfTempo]

That is a nice response Awoken but again, many members have worked with children as well. That was as good a response as you have given even though I was not questioning you but Tempest. And therein lies the point. Why can't you converse with people/members in this way all the time? Do you think you set a good example for children when you insult people? Let's be honest, not a lot of people that work with children would be trusted if the public knew of their conspiracy theory forums including myself. The issue I have with you is how hung up you get with certain people and your inability to let go of things for the greater good. If you practice letting the small things roll off your back, you'd be a more consistent poster. You do not have to come at me in every thread nor be there for Tempest whom you have bonded with here.

As for children, my past speaks for itself and how I feel about pedo's etc. They are precious, innocent and need protection. But there has been and will be evil that seeks them out for nefarious reasons. And I am pretty sure everybody here experienced attempts at stealing their innocence when growing up. I honestly do not see any members that do not feel children are being assimilated into our current bizarre culture.

While I appreciate Tempest attempt at talking about a subject, calling out others as if they are somehow ignorant or less caring about children or harping on what you two see as the other side is off-putting. I have never seen anyone else go the black and white route with fellow posters and actually assigning posters to sides or teams.

If you are going to go all heartfelt, you better be honest.......
First off, this issue IS black or white.
Those who advocate for the defense and decency of the youth stand on one side...... and the other side speaks for itself. There is a middleground, but its masses are draped in silence since the two opposing sides will give no ground. And silence is the same as support imo. I called out posters whom have advocated for that which harms the youth. Each group I called out in the first post is guilty of that which was charged.... not because I am a prosecutor or judge, but based on their own words on this very forum. What tells me the most about your posting is that you rush into defend them because you need a group. You clearly require validation for your participation in this forum. You are rallying people against myself and Awoken2 in almost every post, yet your backup never arrived...... so what was it all for? To vent? To distract? Either way, you did that which you have done so many times before... you derailed worthy dialog to make goofy posts that serve nothing except an ego trip for you..... Go bump some Pac if you want to feel "All Eyez On Me" but to be honest, you have done this so many times in so many threads which are about such serious subjects that I dont take you seriously. At all. Just take a serious look at your behavior in this thread and ask yourself if you are proud of your efforts.

If you had spent as much time contributing something of relevance to the topic, it would have been welcome. Instead, its the same old same old....... and its not good enough. Not even close.

 

[SnowFall]

children are just little grown ups.
I personally do not go around to "harm" children but I also do not give 2 craps about children.
when people are small their parents care about them when they are large and homeless no one cares.

Found the Troll

 

[The Zone]

Tempest -- Before you continue to point fingers at other posters take some self-inventory in the mirror yourself. I have never seen anyone attribute false characteristics as you do with very limited information. You said, yourself, that all you have to go on is what is said here meaning you are not looking very deep nor want to hear anything other than total agreement. Again, my beef with you is not about children but the way you treat others and I will defend other opinions for they are just as vital to gaining a clear picture as are your offerings. You can conduct conversations without taking shots, especially in the OP which begs for discourse once you've done so,

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Tempest -- Before you continue to point fingers at other posters take some self-inventory in the mirror yourself. I have never seen anyone attribute false characteristics as you do with very limited information. You said, yourself, that all you have to go on is what is said here meaning you are not looking very deep nor want to hear anything other than total agreement. Again, my beef with you is not about children but the way you treat others and I will defend other opinions for they are just as vital to gaining a clear picture as are your offerings. You can conduct conversations without taking shots, especially in the OP which begs for discourse once you've done so,

You just dont get it.
I dont care about you or your opinions.
However, if you are willing to invest the time into productive, on-topic communication that you do into trolling, there is always a space for your words here because the issue is much bigger than my disdain for you. However as evidenced by your last post here, you are apparently incapable.

For real for real, I dont care dude. If you have posts here to offer in the defense of the youth, you are welcome to engage..... but if what you have posted thus far is all you have to offer, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[The Zone]

Just quit calling other posters out like a jerk. You go into a long diatribe about other posters in the opening post before discussing anything. Several people would "engage," if you did not call them out from the start.

 

[Awoken2]

My daughter is a music therapist. She has really opened my eyes to the healing and help that music can bring. I see how evil people can use it to cause harm though.

I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately we now have a situation where the world's biggest "music artists" are painting a very dark mural of what is considered as acceptable entertainment. It's picking away at the moral fabric of society. Openly satanic, promoting Transgenderism, homo-erotcism, transhumanism .

As therapeutic as music can be it can conversely be just as detrimental when applied to the subconscious mind of a child in a certain way.

 

[justjess]

By that same token, music and all related entertainment fields lead kids into these situations and lifestyles. Where do you find the balance point at?

I don’t think you do, not on a large scale.

In an individual scale - as parents or someone who works with a child - know your kid, talk to your kid, monitor your kid. Use whatever it is they are into as jumpiffs to bigger life lesson discussions and if they can’t handle something cut it off. End of.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Just quit calling other posters out like a jerk.

You just couldn't/wouldn't do it could you. You couldn't put your ego aside to just produce ONE SINGLE relevant post here. Children's plight means nothing to you.... at this point its not just your emasculated ego.... you are straight up derailing the dialog after being given every opportunity to drop the stupid ish and just participate fool. Please, feel free to start your own thread and whine away in there......

 

[The Zone]

Typical low life response from a gutter mouth.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Typical low life response from a gutter mouth.

GET LOST CREEP!
God DAMN what is wrong with your brain and soul? If you dont have anything of value to add to the discussion GET YOUR LAME ASS OUT OF HERE.... go drop that exquisite, secret knowledge you claimed you were going to enlighten us all with months ago in your own thread. Have a ball there.

 

[The Zone]

GET LOST CREEP!
God DAMN what is wrong with your brain and soul? If you dont have anything of value to add to the discussion GET YOUR LAME ASS OUT OF HERE.... go drop that exquisite, secret knowledge you claimed you were going to enlighten us all with months ago in your own thread. Have a ball there.

I will get myself out of here when you too, show you can move on and NOT CALL OTHERS NOT CALL OTHERS OUT!

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I don’t think you do, not on a large scale.

In an individual scale - as parents or someone who works with a child - know your kid, talk to your kid, monitor your kid. Use whatever it is they are into as jumpiffs to bigger life lesson discussions and if they can’t handle something cut it off. End of.

Youth exposure to media should be utilized like inoculations imo. Just enough so there system aint overloaded when they are hit w/the sickness, but not enough to actually compromise their immune systems.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I will get myself out of here when you too, show you can move on and NOT CALL OTHERS NOT CALL OTHERS OUT!

I started the thread you disgusting cretin so Im obviously not going anywhere.

For real, you and anyone whom supports your activity here is straight up working against the interests of those ready to advocate for children. Its no wonder you keep campaigning for "Mecca"... both of you promote these anti-kid agenda's..... you totally exposed yourself here. Same w/Valero accept in addition to supporting this crap and derailing dialog, he feels the need to call others peds and etc. on a fairly regular basis. For real man, you suck as a human being. You are loser named VanDerLeek aint you? lol

 

[justjess]

Youth exposure to media should be utilized like inoculations imo. Just enough so there system aint overloaded when they are hit w/the sickness, but not enough to actually compromise their immune systems.

That’s just a little unrealistic imo, it’s pretty unavoidable for the majority of people.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

That’s just a little unrealistic imo, it’s pretty unavoidable for the majority of people.

If we are vigilant (no pun intended) it works... but it also works because if you have been vigilant for long enough, then when they DO become exposed to this kind of material it doesn't put them into a state of sensory overload.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

For the record.... Valerho, "Mecca" and Vander-Zone here all showed up to whine about being called out.... and proceeded to engage in some of the very activities that got them called out in the first place.....
Thick as a brick I tells ya........

 

[Awoken2]

Just quit calling other posters out like a jerk.

This is very simple. If you want people to stop calling you a troll just stop acting like a troll. It's not rocket science.

That is a nice response Awoken but again, many members have worked with children as well

You didn't understand what I said. I said I worked within a specialised unit to help support kids who have a range of very complex issues as a result of sustained trauma and abuse. It's a specialised field and needs special people to do tbe job. I'm not including schoolteachers here but you are.

. Why can't you converse with people/members in this way all the time?

I converse just fine with genuine posters, just because you're a member that doesn't automatically mean you're a genuine poster. There are times where this place is like shill central so let's say it how it is....for credibility's sake.

Do you think you set a good example for children when you insult people? Let's be honest, not a lot of people that work with children would be trusted if the public knew of their conspiracy theory forums including myself.

I've managed to help turn some badly damaged kids lives around so yes I have been a good example. That was the job. What I say on public forums has got absolutely nothing to do with it. Moot point.

The issue I have with you is how hung up you get with certain people and your inability to let go of things for the greater good.

I'm not interested in your issues.

If you practice letting the small things roll off your back, you'd be a more consistent poster.

If you are considered a consistent poster I'll just keep doing what I'm doing thanks.

 

[The Zone]

You are a laugh a minute with your accusations. All threads belong to VC...IOW, it is not your thread. Who is stopping you from discussing anything? Put the beer down and quit showing your raw true colors.

You clearly thrive more with controversy than discussion, Temp. You think everyone is going to put up with your BS. Go complain to VC and quit whining. Diuscussion>rants It is clear you would rather take shots than discuss anything. BTW, do you see other members making a thread calling out several posters?